We dunno that for sure, Oda did kill off Sabo ya know.
Nah, she'll definetely survive. To kill named kid, not in a flashback, from drug overdose? Highly doubtful.
After reading chapter I can admit that it was needed, if only to create a room for character development for Chopper.
Luffy is already on his way, and he is already angry, so no point to make him angrier.
But for Chopper this will be shining moment.
How they will become pirate king and great swordsman is interesting. How Mocha will die - not (probably saved by Chopper). Do you understand the difference or should I paint a picture?
Exactly what 400 mille said, just because you find PK and WSS more interesting does not mean saving the children and the circumstances of it are not important for the arc. Do not confuse your opinion with facts.
yo Strelok
You do understand that the kids are a major plot-point of the current arc? You do realize that at one point the story has to focus on them as well instead of non-stop fighting? This is fucking One Piece we're talking about and it has always been like this- fascinating characters, a great plot and good fights.
So instead of whining about the kids rather pay attention to Mochya's heroic sacrifice and show respect where it's due.
@400MillionBelis:
Mocha and the other kids' plot point in this arc is the series in a smaller scale. Yes, Mocha will get saved and the kids will get cured and they will go home to their parents. How is Luffy getting to his goal different from Mocha and the kids getting to their goal?
Your preference?
The manga is about pirates, not about sick kids. Plus I disliked the chapter, because it focused on things we already know - the kids are friends, CC is evil and wants to kill them. Last week's chapter was also not the best, now this and a break next week. Do I have to worship every chapter?
Wow. :blink:
It looks like everybody else liked or loved the chapter.
Everyone brought up some interesting and touching thing, but I think the time wasn't right for this kind of chapter.
This chapter would be perfectly fine after the fights to add more drama to the events.
I expected to see Smoker vs Vergo or Kinemon, Brook and Usopp vs CC henchmen or anything else.
But not this.
So I am alone about this one.
Readddddddin' :D
Thanks a lot!
Wow. :blink:
It looks like everybody else liked or loved the chapter.Everyone brought up some interesting and touching thing, but I think the time wasn't right for this kind of chapter.
This chapter would be perfectly fine after the fights to add more drama to the events.
I expected to see Smoker vs Vergo or Kinemon, Brook and Usopp vs CC henchmen or anything else.
But not this.So I am alone about this one.
You are not.
So someone expresses an opinion and everyone attacks him? At least I know I am in the right forum.
so is law going to have any big role in the upcoming fights or is he going to stay down admiring smokers butt and get back into the story after luffy captures ceasar?
Some of you surprise me.
It's like you would be fine if when strawhats arrived on the island we had one chapter show the bad guys and explain the kids situation.
Then spend 30 chapters watching the strawhats fight, while the kids sit on sidelines watching.
Then obviously you would bitch after the fighting was over cause you wouldn't like the chapters dealing with the kids sickness. You would bitch and say "move onto the next island already, damnit, throw some band aids on the kids and let smoker take them home"
The manga is about pirates, not about sick kids. Plus I disliked the chapter, because it focused on things we already know - the kids are friends, CC is evil and wants to kill them. Last week's chapter was also not the best, now this and a break next week. Do I have to worship every chapter?
The manga is about pirates…yet (don't get me even started with what has happened in the 688 chapters). It used things we already know, and it's finally, at least the running around part, resolved. What - would have you got this chapter sooner or later? Last week's chapter is also a resolved chapter. These plot points were to be resolved sooner or later - what's the difference of getting them now?
We still have Kinemon's group, and Franky. What, would those chapters be crappy because of their relative non-usefulness to this "pirates manga"?
And whoever said you have to worship every chapter? The only reason I replied is because of how you apply your opinion to be an actual fact.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
so is law going to have any big role in the upcoming fights or is he going to stay down admiring smokers butt and get back into the story after luffy captures ceasar?
Well, last we saw of him he wasn't able to do much..I assume hey'll help out some how in the battle against Vergo, Cc will get caught though dead or a live HA.
Nice signature, 400MillionBelis. :P
Overall, I felt like this was a great chapter. Helping the children is after all a huge plot point in the Punk Hazard arc, so it's necessary to bring it up from time to time. The chapter did well to elicit a feeling of pity and understanding from me for the children.
Hopefully we'll see Usopp's group in the next chapter.
Pretty bad chapter. We know that Mocha won't die, so why all the drama.
Do you realize by that logic, Nami's "help me" and Robin's "I want to live" drama would be pointless as well?
And if you mean non-nakama, the entire flashback of Noland would be pointless.
Hell every single drama in One Piece ever would be pointless.
@400MillionBelis:
The manga is about pirates…yet (don't get me even started with what has happened in the 688 chapters). It used things we already know, and it's finally, at least the running around part, resolved. What - would have you got this chapter sooner or later? Last week's chapter is also a resolved chapter. These plot points were to be resolved sooner or later - what's the difference of getting them now?
We still have Kinemon's group, and Franky. What, would those chapters be crappy because of their relative non-usefulness to this "pirates manga"?
And whoever said you have to worship every chapter? The only reason I replied is because of how you apply your opinion to be an actual fact.
Like I said already, I disliked this chapter, because it was too focused on things we actually know. I don't mind the kids' issue resolved, I mind that half the chapter was pretty much unneccesarry - the kids are friends and CC is evil - who needed that part? It could include Usopp's group or Franky or Smoker - much more interesting situations, instead of a flashback explaining what we already know.
I really liked this chapter, not really sure what the fuss is about, few weeks ago you'd find the whole "no emotional development complaint" and now it's the "too much emotional development" complaint, guess there are about an equal number of people in each camp. Also the spread with Sanji and the G5 marines bursting in was fantastic.
I kind of agree. I liked the way the issue was resolved, but it could have been done quicker.
I did like the focus on Chopper though, he hasn't been getting much for a while as well as the first page and Luffy at the end. He looked awesome. Momo is so cute. 
hahahaha, well deserved Caribou.
Wow. :blink:
It looks like everybody else liked or loved the chapter.Everyone brought up some interesting and touching thing, but I think the time wasn't right for this kind of chapter.
This chapter would be perfectly fine after the fights to add more drama to the events.
I expected to see Smoker vs Vergo or Kinemon, Brook and Usopp vs CC henchmen or anything else.
But not this.So I am alone about this one.
agree with the bold 
Wow. :blink:
It looks like everybody else liked or loved the chapter.Everyone brought up some interesting and touching thing, but I think the time wasn't right for this kind of chapter.
This chapter would be perfectly fine after the fights to add more drama to the events.
I expected to see Smoker vs Vergo or Kinemon, Brook and Usopp vs CC henchmen or anything else.
But not this.So I am alone about this one.
Seeing Brook , Usopp and Kinemon vs CC henchmen is boring to tell the truth they just fodder .
This is a set up chapter for Chopper to show his skills and there on a clock also which makes things worst for him
Plus there is only 1 fight that going on now that matters Smoker vs Vergo and that might not end until luffy finds CC .
Do you realize by that logic, Nami's "help me" and Robin's "I want to live" drama would be pointless as well?
And if you mean non-nakama, the entire flashback of Noland would be pointless.Hell every single drama in One Piece ever would be pointless.
i really liked nolands flashback. if the characters are interesting then i will happily read it but if i don't like the characters and then we have so much time dedicated to them then the arc becomes a bit boring.
Do you realize by that logic, Nami's "help me" and Robin's "I want to live" drama would be pointless as well?
And if you mean non-nakama, the entire flashback of Noland would be pointless.Hell every single drama in One Piece ever would be pointless.
Having grown men die is much different than having children die. The drama is not bad, but it was far too much. Wasn't Pell's goodbye much shorter for example? And he had much higher chance of meeting his end.
This is why OP is the best.BEST.
Amazing chapter,Mocha doing that was the most brave thing ever shown,Chopper's resolve to save them,the G-5,EVERYTHING.
Excellent chapter.
And Luffy looking like boss as always.
I think this chapter presents Chopper's progress to accomplish his dream. It's good I saw him doing that.
First, he diagnoses how the disease works.
Second, he's able to cure some of the kids.
and eventually, he will cure them all including Mocha.
The only thing that I don't get is "WHERE THE HELL IS FRANKY?".
If Oda isn't planning to make Franky do a badass thing, I'll consider Oda as a big troll. :P
I am okay with the chapter but I could've accepted the chapter a little more if it did end with a cliff-hanger.
Having grown men die is much different than having children die. The drama is not bad, but it was far too much. Wasn't Pell's goodbye much shorter for example? And he had much higher chance of meeting his end.
But we didn't even get to really see anything about the kids until now.
We were simply fed information on what happened to them, they were not treated as characters until this chapter.
That's like saying, if someone gave a summary of Noland's story ahead of time the entire flashback was pointless.
You're suggeting that fleshing out characters are unimportnat, you only care about raw information.
Last I checked I'm reading One Piece not CNN Report.
Bloody amazing chapter.
Here is a nice post from another forum, this is pretty much my opinion only expressed better:
Characters, however, aren't robots. They're characters. This chapter was showing what happened between Chopper and Mocha, expansion is just as important as development. (Unless you think it's a good thing to have unanswered questions to speculate about by the end of the series?)
So, when this happens, things need to happen. For example, when Chopper gives Mocha the bad news - she has to react. Furthermore, because she's a robot and she's also reacting, we should also touch upon her relationship with the other children. Sure, you could hand wave this with "they're kids, duh, of course they're friends" but that's not expanding on a character to help develop them(as this did, with the relationship between the children.)
It's not strictly about reiterating information we know, it's about expanding upon it. If you and I were close friends, and I said my parents were dead, the only reason that'd be fine with you to leave it at that is out of courtesy, but intrigue and curiosity is a part of human nature(it's how all of this progression of society and humanity happened)
So as a writer, a good writer, you expand upon things, you establish things and you develop things in relation to characters. If you feel the chapter is bad it's not because it's bad - you just don't care about the character/characters being expanded/established/developed.
All in all, the chapter was great(I totally cried), the issue is merely with your personal interest. From an objective writing perspective, as well, the fact that he expanded upon a character that is important for this (part) of the arc is good writing - which makes the chapter good.
But we didn't even get to really see anything about the kids until now.
We were simply fed information on what happened to them, they were not treated as characters until this chapter.That's like saying, if someone gave a summary of Noland's story ahead of time the entire flashback was pointless.
You're suggeting that fleshing out characters are unimportnat, you only care about raw information.Last I checked I'm reading One Piece not CNN Report.
We already know that the kids are friends, from a flashback, and we already know that CC is evil and doesn't mind them being killed. These pages could've been much shorter.
I think this chapter presents Chopper's progress to accomplish his dream. It's good I saw him doing that.
First, he diagnoses how the disease works.
Second, he's able to cure some of the kids.
and eventually, he will cure them all including Mocha.The only thing that I don't get is "WHERE THE HELL IS FRANKY?".
If Oda isn't planning to make Franky do a badass thing, I'll consider Oda as a big troll. :PI am okay with the chapter but I could've accepted the chapter a little more if it did end with a cliff-hanger.
I am pretty sure Franky will do something badass in the following chapters! SUUUUPERR! 
I'm reminded strongly of Buggy's Great Adventure with the current cover story. Doubt it will come close to the greatness that was Buggy's plight though =)
I liked this chapter as well.
Imagine what it would say about Oda (as an author) if he had this scene occur completely off screen and just focus on fights for several more chapters (especially after designating 2 on strictly Zoro and Monet)?
Btw…is Monet screwed?
We already know that the kids are friends, from a flashback, and we already know that CC is evil and doesn't mind them being killed. These pages could've been much shorter.
You realize you did nothing but confirm what I said, right?
You only care about raw information like a newsfeed, and not the actual "story depiction" part of it.
Hell, might as well read the manga in a summary on wiki.
Now I imagined some reporter on CNN summarizing the latest chapter.
"And now we switch over to One Piece. Fred, what's happening on Punk Hazard?"
You realize you did nothing but confirm what I said, right?
You only care about raw information like a newsfeed, and not the actual "story depiction" part of it.Hell, might as well read the manga in a summary on wiki.
That's the problem - there wasn't much story in the flashback - it was a waste of space.
Mocha! Nooooooo!! ;_;
Great chapter, looking forward to some good character development for Chopper soon!
Loved Sanji's entrance, and his ordering about the G5's. Also Tashigi's "Why are you carrying m.. Ooh swords!" XD
Yet another break? :( This means the next chapter will be TWICE AS AWESOME!! Right?..
good chapter.sanji and the marines heroic entry was good.also likes the mocha part.it was good how they focused on becoming adults.when i think about it,you want to become adult when you are a kid.it's natural.so it was good how oda did it.
and now it's back from sexism to "i want action/information".like luffy said to franky,did you change your heart to a steel one?this is the good old OP.that can make flashbacks about people who lived 400 years ago look good.we know that they were friends,but we didn't see that they were friends.also i have doubts that mocha will be unharmed at the end.chopper's words looked like someone lying to comfort some one.also,he says"this is my fault".
Do you realize by that logic, Nami's "help me" and Robin's "I want to live" drama would be pointless as well?
And if you mean non-nakama, the entire flashback of Noland would be pointless.Hell every single drama in One Piece ever would be pointless.
well said.
also loved the zoro-tashigi part."why don't i throw you over there now".also,he calls her sword maniac.funny as hell.
Strelok, You just keep on confirming. Let Doflas crew arrive next week, CC and Vergo taken down same chapter, PH arc resolved in 3 chapters now on to Dofla arc OMG so much going on so much plot progression = better manga, right?
Whether you don't give a shit about the kids or not, this chapter was worth the price of admission for a truly great Chopper moment alone. Do you realize how rare moments like that has gotten for the Straw Hats?
I think the fact that Oda is finally moving out of his "Marineford-montage at least 5 scenes in one chapter" format is throwing people off. But this is a good thing. Devoting two chapters to Monet and the biscuit room gives a more well choreographed and entertaining fight than we've had in more than a 100 chapters! And narrowing the focus down to just the kids for one week allows Oda to tell their story better than just sketching 5 pages of it and then jumping to something else.
I liked this chapter as well.
Imagine what it would say about Oda (as an author) if he had this scene occur completely off screen and just focus on fights for several more chapters (especially after designating 2 on strictly Zoro and Monet)?Btw…is Monet screwed?
Shinokuni's gonna get Monet! XD
The entire foundation of Chopper's character was the tragedy of poisoning his "father", and not having the knowledge to save him.
His dream to save people through medicine has been all but pushed to he background and placed in a queue along with other SH members' motives and ambition.
And after hundreds of chapters, he now finally has the moment where he must shine, where he has the chance to redeem his trauma and save many lives.
But no. "I WANT VERGO PEW PEW NAO who gives a shit about children and Chopper"
How they will become pirate king and great swordsman is interesting. How Mocha will die - not (probably saved by Chopper). Do you understand the difference or should I paint a picture?
How Chopper became a Doctor that can cure all illness is irrelevant then?
am i the only one ho think this chpter is better than the last one it covers the only week point of ph and has great develpment for chopper
I think people are being impatient because OP is released once a week. If you read this as a full volume (like reading a whole book), a chapter like this is necessary. I don't think this chapter is all that good, but it's not bad either. Getting/feeling a different emotion is a nice change (we haven't had a dramatic one in this arc right?). It's not like the chapter just came out from nowhere.
I really don't get the complaints about this chapter.
Mocha was so brave and selfless! Poor girl :sad:
Also, Chopper's expression in this chapter - how shocked and angry he looked, it really gave me the chills.
It's his time to shine now.
Read my posts carefully. I don't mind Chopper's moment or the kids' flashback or whatever. It's just that they were too long to remain interesting. The flashback with Chopper and Mocha is something that would fit very well in the anime, but not now, when the gas is coming in and everyone is in hurry, running, fighting etc.
I'm literally split down the middle on this chapter. On one hand from a writing point of view, this chapter was good, in that it resolved the issue with the kids, gave Chopper a bit more character development, and helped us feel for Mocha a bit. I mean, even though I highly doubt these kids will die, that was still brutal to see.
On the other hand, though, I kind of feel like this arc is dragging a bit lately. I kind of just want to get to the finale already, but I'm forcing myself to just be patient since Oda always delivers in the end. Plus, we all know he's busy with Z, so I don't want to complain too much here, or about the break either.
you know guys, since Vergo has a high possibility to appear later when SH will fight Doflamingo, we won't see vergo vs smoker most likely. All we'll get to see is Smoker walking out there as a winner and Law proceeding with his plan.
So, you might prepare yourself for it.
The only fight left is Luffy vs Ceasar which will probably be 1 shotted since Luffy is pissed.
Baby 5 and Buffalo's purpose in this arc seems to encoutner beaten up vergo and Monet and the kidnapped ceasar (how ironic).
As for Chopper, he's about to get the biggest reputation ever. G5 medics will spread his skills and he might become a dangerous threat to WG if he succeeds to heal Mocha and the petrified marines.
I can actually see Oda doing that with Smoker vs Vergo. I mean. He's done it in the past, in Marineford we didn't see half of the fights. IIRC there was some in Impel Down that were skipped over (Sadi vs Iva I recall. I think there was another too?)
I hope next week we go to Usopp etc. Or Franky. (I was half expecting him to blow up half of the base or something overly dramatic and uneeded like he usually does.)
