What the hell is happening with the colored pages in mangastream? The 17th is creepy as hell. The faces! Naruto looks like a bizarre combination of… oh,god. I don´t know. I won´t be able to sleep tonight.
Oh, god.
What the hell is happening with the colored pages in mangastream? The 17th is creepy as hell. The faces! Naruto looks like a bizarre combination of… oh,god. I don´t know. I won´t be able to sleep tonight.
Oh, god.
what would you guys think if kishi pulled a "it was all just a dream" switcheroo. and by that i mean sasuke switching sides and going psycho, the war, all of part 2.
im not saying it will happen, just think we cant rule all things out.
would that save this story, or be more rage inducing?
I know I'm a bit late but here goes.
Sakumo: Kakashi, I wasn't really dead! I just fled the village so it would build up your character and you would surpass me!
Kakashi: But I saw you in the afterlife!
Sakumo: You sure that wasn't just a hallucination, after all you're not dead?
Obito: Kakashi I never died! The doctors saved me just in time! But they decided to isolate me to build your character! And I brought Rin too! None of us were ever dead, we just wanted to screw with you!
Kakashi: Ah, you guys, you're the best father and friends a shinobi could ask for! Group Hug!
:wub:
All of part 2 is a giant genjutsu from the middle of the Naruto/Sasuke fight at the end of part one. naruto breaks the genjutsu and suddenly the art is back to full quality.
Anyone know where the hell Suigetsu, Jugo, Karin, Baki, Shino, and maybe the sound 4? O_o
The Kishimoto's are actually triplets, Masashi died and Seishi took over part II, the third took over Seishi's aspiration to make a popular manga.
@RobbyBevard:
All of part 2 is a giant genjutsu from the middle of the Naruto/Sasuke fight at the end of part one. naruto breaks the genjutsu and suddenly the art is back to full quality.
That's not such a bad idea. It is more or less what they did in Mortal Kombat 9. I kinda wish that was the case.
Hi, sorry to interrupt your theories, but I was wondering something…
I watched all of canon Part 1 and didn't like it, at all. But a friend of mine told me if I watch Part 2, then I'll be hooked forever because it's so much better. I've caught glimpses of Part 2 (Read: Pain vs. Naruto) and it looks okay, but he said One Piece is childish, so I don't really trust him.
tl;dr
Is Naruto: Shippuuden shit?
@Pix:
Hi, sorry to interrupt your theories, but I was wondering something…
I watched all of canon Part 1 and didn't like it, at all. But a friend of mine told me if I watch Part 2, then I'll be hooked forever because it's so much better. I've caught glimpses of Part 2 (Read: Pain vs. Naruto) and it looks okay, but he said One Piece is childish, so I don't really trust him.
tl;dr
Is Naruto: Shippuuden shit?
It depends:
If you are a Sasuke fangirl. You will love it.
I used to to be a decent fan of the series (part 1) but I so want to hate it now. IMO, the series totally falls apart after Naruto vs Pain.
Yes.
You didn't even like Part 1 so you definitely won't like Part 2, don't listen to these Part 1 fanboys.
@Pix:
Hi, sorry to interrupt your theories, but I was wondering something…
I watched all of canon Part 1 and didn't like it, at all. But a friend of mine told me if I watch Part 2, then I'll be hooked forever because it's so much better. I've caught glimpses of Part 2 (Read: Pain vs. Naruto) and it looks okay, but he said One Piece is childish, so I don't really trust him.
tl;dr
Is Naruto: Shippuuden shit?
If you sit through Part 2, especially how long and dragged out it is in the anime (like really dragged out, I'm not kidding, the early episodes have flashbacks almost every episode), then you'll be bored shit-less. To keep up with my good nature of buying a series and seeing it through I bought collection 4 of Shippuden and I got really impatient waiting for something to happen.
Season 1 of Shippuden was really weak.
Later on it gets a little better, but if you yourself didn't like part 1, then I don't think Part 2 will be your cup of tea.
@Pix:
Hi, sorry to interrupt your theories, but I was wondering something…
I watched all of canon Part 1 and didn't like it, at all. But a friend of mine told me if I watch Part 2, then I'll be hooked forever because it's so much better. I've caught glimpses of Part 2 (Read: Pain vs. Naruto) and it looks okay, but he said One Piece is childish, so I don't really trust him.
tl;dr
Is Naruto: Shippuuden shit?
Kill your friend. He´s obviously trying to hurt you.
…
Uh, i mean. If you didn´t like part 1 i don´t think you´ll like part 2. At all.
It depends:
If you are a Sasuke fangirl. You will love it.
I used to to be a decent fan of the series (part 1) but I so want to hate it now. IMO, the series totally falls apart after Naruto vs Pain.
Well, I do hate Sasuke and everything he is, but I am curious as to how the series is before and during Naruto vs. Pain.
Yes.
You didn't even like Part 1 so you definitely won't like Part 2, don't listen to these Part 1 fanboys.
Maybe one day a new, halfway decent, long-running Shonen Fight-a-Thon will come along and be fun. Well, at least I have you Toriko.
Kill your friend. He´s obviously trying to hurt you.
…
Uh, i mean. If you didn´t like part 1 i don´t think you´ll like part 2. At all.
If you sit through Part 2, especially how long and dragged out it is in the anime (like really dragged out, I'm not kidding, the early episodes have flashbacks almost every episode), then you'll be bored shit-less. To keep up with my good nature of buying a series and seeing it through I bought collection 4 of Shippuden and I got really impatient waiting for something to happen.
Season 1 of Shippuden was really weak.
Later on it gets a little better, but if you yourself didn't like part 1, then I don't think Part 2 will be your cup of tea.
I'm getting the vibe the change between Part 1 and Part 2 isn't as vast as he led me to believe.
@Pix:
Well, I do hate Sasuke and everything he is, but I am curious as to how the series is before and during Naruto vs. Pain.
It sucks before, during and after Naruto vs. Pain.
And yeah, I wouldn't trust your friend's judgment if he likes Naruto Part 2 and dislikes One Piece.
Pix, in the eternal words of taboo,
If you want to read a manga about an AWESOME ninja, go read Soul Eater.
Anyone know where the hell Suigetsu, Jugo, Karin, Baki, Shino, and maybe the sound 4? O_o
They have been trolled by Kishi. They have served kishis purpose whatever the hell that is and are no longer important.
Gaara it turns out your mother really did love you!
And you Dad does respect you!
And your pet dog didn't run away!
And you don't have to pay that parking ticket anymore!
Gaara it turns out your mother really did love you!
And you Dad does respect you!
And your pet dog didn't run away!
And you don't have to pay that parking ticket anymore!
Nothing is sacred.
Not,
a goddamn,
thing.
…what the fuck is this shit.
Just... what the fuck.
Madara: hey guys, i don´t really want to revive the ten-tails, it was just a game between me and Hashirama.
Hashirama: Yeah, we didn´t fight each other, it was just a ruse.
Madara: yeah, we´re actually BFF.
Hashirama: yeah, i love you Buddy.
both take out BFF necklace
Just… agh.
Not only does he turn the manga into shit, now he goes and pisses on the parts that were actually genuinely good...
Shit. I haven't been this offended by a manga chapter in a LONG time.
Guys, you haven't understood yet? No one in this manga is evil. They're just misunderstood. Now, let's hold hands.
I got mixt feeling about this chapter… in a way it explained why Gaara he still protected by the sand even without Shukaku but at the same time it changes one of the greatest back story of the manga... it was way cooler when we though that everyone including his mother hated him... it made his story more meaningful... anyway I sure hope this fight of son vs dad does not end next chapter
Everyone hated Naruto, but no one really hated him.
Itachi hated the Uchiha and Sasuke, but he didn't really hate them.
That friend of bee hated him, but he didn't really hate him.
Gaara's mother hated him, but she didn't really hate him.
What's next ? obvious.
Sasuke hated everyone in Konoha, but he didn't really hate them.
Everyone hated Naruto, but no one really hated him.
Itachi hated the Uchiha and Sasuke, but he didn't really hate them.
That friend of bee hated him, but he didn't really hate him.
Gaara's mother hated him, but she didn't really hate him.What's next ? obvious.
Sasuke hated everyone in Konoha, but he didn't really hate them.
What are you talking about? God it's so obvious that Sasuke loves each and every one of them and that's his way to express his true feelings. Guys you should really learn to read the hints.
Way to ruin the mood Captain obvious…
Damn Kishi you did it again … even though Gaara wasn't that great in Part 2 I still liked him and was psyched after last week's chapter ...
Way to destroy one of your few good characters Kishi ...
Prediction:
Lee actually can use Gen- and Ninjutsu but was just trolling.
Fuck that. If Lee can use Gen and Ninjutsu then he will be just like every other boring character in this series, meaning he also loses his cool factor.
Kishi-sensei should stick to what he's doing and leave Lee alone.
No. Lee's pysical moves ARE a genjutsu. He's actually physically weak, he just hypnotizes his opponents. Thats why he can never actually beat anyone.
Way to ruin the mood Captain obvious…
But it was obvious that it was meant as a joke, wasn't it? :ermm:
And to be perfectly honest I'm not quite sure how I 'ruined' it.
Kishimoto sucks anyway, and that's my point.
This manga is becoming painful to read. I keep up with it as a habit of old times.
Damn, things are bad when Kishimoto makes me not give a royal fuck about Gaara, of all people.
I guess everybody is nice and full of sunshine and really not bad deep down. Fucking rainbows everywhere.
Let's see, how will Kishi redeem Madara and Zetsu…
Zetsu was eating folks because that's the only way to treat his deadly disease!! He's just misunderstood, how would you feel if you had two minds in one body and everybody hated him because he's actually the host of the negative one tailed beast!! But really they just gave him an extra personality because they thought he was lonely! =D
Madara wants to harness the ten-tail's power because he felt sorry for it, it was cooped up in the moon all these eons!! Humans hated the ten-tails, but not really they just wanted to give it a cozy home!
Kyuubi was a good guy all along. He was just testing Naruto. Srsly.
Isn't Kyuubi a tsundere ?
Mizuki from the first chapter was actually a good guy, he did it on purpose in a masterful gambit to save the world from Madara's (misguided but ultimately good at heart!) world domination scheme!! AND HE UNDERSTOOD NARUTO WAS OUR SAVIOR LOL
Isn't Kyuubi a tsundere ?
Kyuubi: S-stupid Naruto! Is not like I like you or anything! blushes
meh, if i ignore Gaara's part 1 flashback then this chapter was okay for me. at face value, this chapter was normal.
but because i obviously can't ignore the 180 degree spin on Gaara's past, fucking up his character… it goes no higher than sharingan red for me.
Good chapter, explains why Gaara dad did this. I predicated OP chapter 3 weeks ago. Bleach was freaking horrible.
So Gaara wasted 13 years of his life hating people for no reason.
I am sure Sasuke is helping the whole country build up character.
Everyone hated Naruto, but no one really hated him.
Itachi hated the Uchiha and Sasuke, but he didn't really hate them.
That friend of bee hated him, but he didn't really hate him.
Gaara's mother hated him, but she didn't really hate him.What's next ? obvious.
Sasuke hated everyone in Konoha, but he didn't really hate them.
It was stated from the start the kyuubi was the reason they hated him. Bee friend did hate him and tried to kill him.
Good chapter, explains why Gaara dad did this.
I hope you don't mean it was a good chapter because it explained why Gaara's father did what he did… Why couldn't it be explained that he was just a typical asshole father that hated his son because Gaara made her die at birth? At least that was the general understanding many, many years ago. But because Kishi doesn't know how to have characters change from being evil to good and create world peace, he changes the story so that no one is truly evil. They are just misunderstood. It's a great way to create tension when the villains are emotionally compromised and contribute to their own defeat.
Bleach was freaking horrible.
What else is new?
Guys, you haven't understood yet? No one in this manga is evil. They're just misunderstood. Now, let's hold hands.
LOL!!! That Comment in combination with the man on your Avatar Made it even more hillarious good job :ninja:
Just… agh.
Not only does he turn the manga into shit, now he goes and pisses on the parts that were actually genuinely good…
Shit. I haven't been this offended by a manga chapter in a LONG time.
Hello there Nice too meeet you!!! Are you Japanese!!!
Anyway I agree with the manga being shit. This was a pretty shitty chapter, although its nothing out of the ordinary from previous chapters which were also shit.
Funny Story though. Some dude once told me that the Naruto Ninja war would trump the One Piece Marineford War and I was like :wassat: I predicted this war would be shit and it looks like my prediction is turning true
I hope you don't mean it was a good chapter because it explained why Gaara's father did what he did… Why couldn't it be explained that he was just a typical asshole father that hated his son because Gaara made her die at birth? At least that was the general understanding many, many years ago. But because Kishi doesn't know how to have characters change from being evil to good and create world peace, he changes the story so that no one is truly evil. They are just misunderstood. It's a great way to create tension when the villains are emotionally compromised and contribute to their own defeat.
What else is new?
How is Gaara father changed to good? He sent someone to kill his son 6 times to test him and lied to him while he was going crazy. He sent his wife brother to die basically against his will. Lmao good my asa. Itachi wasn't good either. What makes him a good guy I wonder. Explain this to me
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LOL!!! That Comment in combination with the man on your Avatar Made it even more hillarious good job :ninja:
Hello there Nice too meeet you!!! Are you Japanese!!!
Anyway I agree with the manga being shit. This was a pretty shitty chapter, although its nothing out of the ordinary from previous chapters which were also shit.
Funny Story though. Some dude once told me that the Naruto Ninja war would trump the One Piece Marineford War and I was like :wassat: I predicted this war would be shit and it looks like my prediction is turning true
Marineford war wasn't anything special until the ending. It was pretty crap before WB/Akainu/Shanks saved it at the end.
So Gaara wasted 13 years of his life hating people for no reason.
And killing, don't forget the killing!
@Cyan:
Shut up, juju
.
Since it's his sentence I had to quote him. But it should be understandable, JuJu.
So Gaara wasted 13 years of his life hating people for no reason.
All in the name of building character.
Namixluffy2.
How is Gaara father changed to good? He sent someone to kill his son 6 times to test him and lied to him while he was going crazy. He sent his wife brother to die basically against his will. Lmao good my asa. Itachi wasn't good either. What makes him a good guy I wonder. Explain this to me
We can hope Gaara doesnt buy his bullshit and goes brutal on him. But im expecting a lame outcome given just how poorly told the whole flashback was, from his dads side.
I have a few problems with the flashback too:
If Yashamaru (is that her name?) was ordered to corner him mentally, then what was the idea of having her die for it? Gaara's father literally tore his childhood apart to make sure he didnt lose control of the Shukaku, when clearly a child is not known to be that mature, so her sacrifice made little to no point. Total waste of character.
Didn't Gaara specifically say he killed his mother at birth? We instead saw him as a generic naruto posing baby, except a whole lot smaller. His mother supposedly died for the sake of the village, but I bet anything in this flashback it was Gaara who was just picked at random because he was compatible, not because his mom had to make that sacrfice. It totally missed the point of Gaara's first victim, unless that was just made up bullshit on Yashamaru, which only makes it worse.
I suppose we could call it the ungodly cruel sacrifice of a compatible newborn, not a mother who was forced to have the child on the demand of the village.
His dad specifically tried to corner his 6 year old boy using verbal abuse of words along with a frigging assassination attempt. Then following the rest of his childhood, suffered several more of these attempts. What child 6 years old could take that in a mature way and keep a tailed beast under control?
Did he honestly believe otherwise? Or did Kishi again just want to make that turn no matter how bizarre it was?
And finally, the conclusion: His dad is an insecure prick who allowed the Shukaku to be sealed within his 3rd son (because he was compatible), which already should have made him pretty unstable, and then used his Aunt to verbally pick him apart under the guise of an assassination attempt revealed to have been ordered by his father. Continually butchering any stable childhood experience of his son.
This was the part 1 development, because we still have no lead as to how they can determine a compatible child yet.
Now, we get the twist that made all of that pointless by ridiculing Yashamaru's otherwise authentic opinion, proving his father did it out of care rather than pure ambition and finally reverting the idea that his mother did not love him.
If anything, Gaara should torture his dad slowly and desert funeral him until every last bit of him is gone. All while he's in a mental rage.
Nah, thats my hopes. I believe we'll get a happy go revelation where his dad is sealed peacefully and Gaara forgets how much of a waste his life was, like any other character that has been fucked over by this war.
Namixluffy2.
We can hope Gaara doesnt buy his bullshit and goes brutal on him. But im expecting a lame outcome given just how poorly told the whole flashback was, from his dads side.
I have a few problems with the flashback too:
If Yashamaru (is that her name?) was ordered to corner him mentally, then what was the idea of having her die for it? Gaara's father literally tore his childhood apart to make sure he didnt lose control of the Shukaku, when clearly a child is not known to be that mature, so her sacrifice made little to no point. Total waste of character.
Didn't Gaara specifically say he killed his mother at birth? We instead saw him as a generic naruto posing baby, except a whole lot smaller. His mother supposedly died for the sake of the village, but I bet anything in this flashback it was Gaara who was just picked at random because he was compatible, not because his mom had to make that sacrfice. It totally missed the point of Gaara's first victim, unless that was just made up bullshit on Yashamaru, which only makes it worse.
I suppose we could call it the ungodly cruel sacrifice of a compatible newborn, not a mother who was forced to have the child on the demand of the village.His dad specifically tried to corner his 6 year old boy using verbal abuse of words along with a frigging assassination attempt. Then following the rest of his childhood, suffered several more of these attempts. What child 6 years old could take that in a mature way and keep a tailed beast under control?
Did he honestly believe otherwise? Or did Kishi again just want to make that turn no matter how bizarre it was?And finally, the conclusion: His dad is an insecure prick who allowed the Shukaku to be sealed within his 3rd son (because he was compatible), which already should have made him pretty unstable, and then used his Aunt to verbally pick him apart under the guise of an assassination attempt revealed to have been ordered by his father. Continually butchering any stable childhood experience of his son.
This was the part 1 development, because we still have no lead as to how they can determine a compatible child yet.Now, we get the twist that made all of that pointless by ridiculing Yashamaru's otherwise authentic opinion, proving his father did it out of care rather than pure ambition and finally reverting the idea that his mother did not love him.
If anything, Gaara should torture his dad slowly and desert funeral him until every last bit of him is gone. All while he's in a mental rage.Nah, thats my hopes. I believe we'll get a happy go revelation where his dad is sealed peacefully and Gaara forgets how much of a waste his life was, like any other character that has been fucked over by this war.
1. He was just a flashback character who the Kages didn't care if he sacrificed. Like I said before, Gaara father is not "good".
2. Who says she didn't die?
3. He couldn't control it and Gaara dad doesn't care. If he did he would of helped him try to learn like Kumo people. Kumo village are the smartest/best ninjas in the manga. Once again proving my point Gaara dad was not a good guy weather Gaara accepts wat happen or not. His father didn't fight for him in the meeting or anything.
4. I agree, this chapter makes Gaara dad even more of a prick. I don't know where this good guy crap is from.