@RPGJay:

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Why would anyone continue to debate with you when you'll just be banned again and never learn lol

Just tell me the Naruto move you were talking about. Ian interested to see it. Anyways

@cyan I am only saying this to Rpg. I never said anyone else has no arguement. Plenty of people here have good arguements. Rpg,outspec, robby etc….( Your not one of them though)

@Bobjr One and only version. You need a change though.

Rpg I understand you can't back up it BS. Don't feel bad. Keep posting vids. Basically admitting your you talk out of it ass. Good job keep the vids coming.

@Cyan:

Shut up juju
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How about you shut up. Rpg noting again huh?

@Outerspec:

No. If you reeaaaalllllyyy want to restart the argument on that I think you should read these posts first. You should remember them well because you were there for most of it.

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2182478&viewfull=1#post2182478 (Me)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2182728&viewfull=1#post2182728 (Kareem)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2182806&viewfull=1#post2182806 (Me)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2183164&viewfull=1#post2183164 (Daz)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2183356&viewfull=1#post2183356 (Me)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2184176&viewfull=1#post2184176 (Me: Response to Daz)

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=16752&p=2184226&viewfull=1#post2184226 (Daz: Response to me)

And it basically ended after that because we were sick as shit of arguing with each other and we all kept our same stance. Everything that could possibly be said for both sides of the argument has already been said. No one's going to re-read all that stuff I posted above so do we really need to re-argue this when it's all there already?

There's were more posts obviously but I didn't feel like posting every single thing.

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Anyway, this chapter reminded me of why I don't like Itachi's character.

Itachi: "How do I make sure my brother grows up nice and strong and becomes a great benefactor of the village..."

TRAUMATIZE HIS CHILDHOOD!!! NURTURE HIM WITH LIES, HATE, AND ANGER!!!

Gaara's father: "How do I make sure my son grows up to be the most beneficial Jinchuuriki for the protection of the Suna village…"

TRAUMATIZE HIS CHILDHOOD!!! NURTURE HIM WITH LIES, HATE, AND ANGER!!!

Lol, and Gaara's childhood story was just fine before Kishi decided to go and change everything we knew with absolutely no hints beforehand. At least Gaara won't screw up like Sasuke and start blaming people who had absolutely nothing to do with his shitty past.

That's exactly wat I was going to do. I was going to repost it.

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@RPGJay:

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Sooooo basically noting. Haaaaa

@RPGJay:

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Yep exactly what I thought. Lol u still have noting. Lmao haaaaa

@kouch_lee:

"Itachi recton? Please show me how itachi got recton."

Itachi got rectoned whe someone sticked a broom up his rectum.

That's why he felt the need to act like an asshole during Sasuke's flashback, but wait, he was the goodiest goody goody in the entire ninja world.

Facepalm I will respond to this later. Just so dumb I don't even know.

@Kareem:

Sniff Give these poor darlings a hug!

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Honestly Juju, I don't want to do this, but... Shut Up! Seriously.

Why don't you want to do it? I dgaf what you want to say

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@The:

You know, I don't really give a shit about Kazekage sr acting stupid and not getting the father of the year award. The problem for me is Gaaras mother.

I would like you all to reread the next five pages from this link onwards. It's part 1 naruto, so it's pretty good, and contains one of the most tragic and memorable moments of the series.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-136-7/naruto/chapter-131.html

Now imagine Gaaras dad popping up and yelling LOL, SHE ACTUALLY DID LOVE YOU! PSYCHE!

I think I'm even more pissed at this than the Itachi retcon. Gaaras mother loved him? The heartbreaking end to a tragic flashback is a lie? Really?! Fucking fucking fucking Really?!!

Itachi recton? Please show me how itachi got recton.

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@RPGJay:

Just to bring it up again.

The only thing you need to bring up is the moves Naruto pulled out of his ass. Still waiting

@Mysterion:

Namixluffy2.

We can hope Gaara doesnt buy his bullshit and goes brutal on him. But im expecting a lame outcome given just how poorly told the whole flashback was, from his dads side.
I have a few problems with the flashback too:

1. If Yashamaru (is that her name?) was ordered to corner him mentally, then what was the idea of having her die for it? Gaara's father literally tore his childhood apart to make sure he didnt lose control of the Shukaku, when clearly a child is not known to be that mature, so her sacrifice made little to no point. Total waste of character.

2. Didn't Gaara specifically say he killed his mother at birth? We instead saw him as a generic naruto posing baby, except a whole lot smaller. His mother supposedly died for the sake of the village, but I bet anything in this flashback it was Gaara who was just picked at random because he was compatible, not because his mom had to make that sacrfice. It totally missed the point of Gaara's first victim, unless that was just made up bullshit on Yashamaru, which only makes it worse.
   I suppose we could call it the ungodly cruel sacrifice of a compatible newborn, not a mother who was forced to have the child on the demand of the village.

3. His dad specifically tried to corner his 6 year old boy using verbal abuse of words along with a frigging assassination attempt. Then following the rest of his childhood, suffered several more of these attempts. What child 6 years old could take that in a mature way and keep a tailed beast under control?
   Did he honestly believe otherwise? Or did Kishi again just want to make that turn no matter how bizarre it was?

4. And finally, the conclusion: His dad is an insecure prick who allowed the Shukaku to be sealed within his 3rd son (because he was compatible), which already should have made him pretty unstable, and then used his Aunt to verbally pick him apart under the guise of an assassination attempt revealed to have been ordered by his father. Continually butchering any stable childhood experience of his son.
   This was the part 1 development, because we still have no lead as to how they can determine a compatible child yet.

Now, we get the twist that made all of that pointless by ridiculing Yashamaru's otherwise authentic opinion, proving his father did it out of care rather than pure ambition and finally reverting the idea that his mother did not love him.
If anything, Gaara should torture his dad slowly and desert funeral him until every last bit of him is gone. All while he's in a mental rage.

Nah, thats my hopes. I believe we'll get a happy go revelation where his dad is sealed peacefully and Gaara forgets how much of a waste his life was, like any other character that has been fucked over by this war.

1. He was just a flashback character who the Kages didn't care if he sacrificed. Like I said before, Gaara father is not "good".
2. Who says she didn't die?
3. He couldn't control it and Gaara dad doesn't care. If he did he would of helped him try to learn like Kumo people. Kumo village are the smartest/best ninjas in the manga. Once again proving my point Gaara dad was not a good guy weather Gaara accepts wat happen or not. His father didn't fight for him in the meeting or anything.
4. I agree, this chapter makes Gaara dad even more of a prick. I don't know where this good guy crap is from.

@mr.french:

I hope you don't mean it was a good chapter because it explained why Gaara's father did what he did… Why couldn't it be explained that he was just a typical asshole father that hated his son because Gaara made her die at birth? At least that was the general understanding many, many years ago. But because Kishi doesn't know how to have characters change from being evil to good and create world peace, he changes the story so that no one is truly evil. They are just misunderstood. It's a great way to create tension when the villains are emotionally compromised and contribute to their own defeat.

What else is new?

How is Gaara father changed to good? He sent someone to kill his son 6 times to test him and lied to him while he was going crazy. He sent his wife brother to die basically against his will. Lmao good my asa. Itachi wasn't good either. What makes him a good guy I wonder. Explain this to me

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@mechysonu:

LOL!!! That Comment in combination with the man on your Avatar Made it even more hillarious good job :ninja:

Hello there Nice too meeet you!!! Are you Japanese!!!

Anyway I agree with the manga being shit. This was a pretty shitty chapter, although its nothing out of the ordinary from previous chapters which were also shit.

Funny Story though. Some dude once told me that the Naruto Ninja war would trump the One Piece Marineford War and I was like :wassat: I predicted this war would be shit and it looks like my prediction is turning true

Marineford war wasn't anything special until the ending. It was pretty crap before WB/Akainu/Shanks saved it at the end.