Where in the databook does it say his strength hasn't changed in ten years?
As far as i remember it, all it stated was that losing his arm didnt reduce Shanks fighting strength.
Not that he's at the same level now as 10 years ago.
Chapter 553 "Battle of the Highest" Discussion
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As far as i remember it, all it stated was that losing his arm didnt reduce Shanks fighting strength. Not that he's at the same level now as 10 years ago.
It said reduce or gained power.
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He beat every other opponent more or less with ease because he is a really strong opponent. Remember not everone is able to handle a gear second/thrid attack without fainting. Magellan and hannyabal (and the weird zoan guards) were the only one to be able to withstand is attack while magellan was the only one who didn't loose against luffy. I'm not really sure about BB mentioning luffys haki has grown. I thought he was amazed about what luffy were willing to do to save ace and that he would have fight every opponent who will try to stop him.
Well you are right that he isn't necessarily using it yet. As far as we know, haki can be used to predict movements, amplify damage, and cancel out a DF power (the making people faint thing, is king's haki). He might be doing some of these things unknowingly at times, or maybe not.
Oh yeah, the BB thing: after a bit of back-and-forth brawling, BB remarks about Luffy's haki:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/544/08/I would rather see him learning it during the rest of his journey to raftel. On the other side how will Oda explain to us how he learned it? Luffy has to think about it and be aware of what haki is.
You could be very well right that he is going to gradually learn it in the New World. We don't know if he's really going mano-a-mano with someone in this war. I'm still hoping Boa will be the next crewmember, she can teach him then on their journey. Most likely though he will just figure it out on his own, like with his second and third gears. He's now faced a bunch of opponents he couldn't beat (Kuma, Sentoumaru a bit, Magellan), maybe it'll be the same as when he met Ao Kiji and he'll start using his brain on how to get stronger :)
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Jadsora's posts are what the Page Down button was built for.
He is also the reason why forums have a max character limit.
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OneMoment, I take that you agree with me if you don't answer? :3
I take it that you should assume I have better things to do. You know I can't just type a normal post like these guys. It's got to be at least two pages. Wait, never mind, I figured something out. However, I'm going to shrink it down to save space.
It's weird, but it seems your more inclined towards the villains and I'm more inclined towards the heros and that's were we disagree. No shonen in history makes the hero inherently weaker then the villain, or if they do some power up occurs to make them on the villains level. With One Piece, the villains tend to display their power in what is ultimately a shallow way that in hindsight shows us Luffy was either stronger all along or with Lucci he learned a new move.
With Croc, Luffy would have fought evenly all along if he just knew about the water weakness. Once he learned that, Croc's invincibility faded away, though Oda was good enough to keep Croc as a serious threat. But in the end, despite Croc's lethal moves, through better hand-to-hand combat experience Luffy won. Any change in emotion is the fighter (in this case Croc's) fault, so if you said he got so mad he started fighting crappily, that doesn't excuse anyone. If you say he underestimated Luffy, that doesn't excuse anyone. It's generaly a taboo where I come from to make excuses for a loss anyway. That's unfair to the winner and shameful to the loser, especially when the loser is making up rules as to why they lost. Really, unless Oda writes a seen where Croc complains about his loss, I don't care for it. That says to me that Croc doesn't feel he was cheated into a loss.
It's a similar case with Moria. They never seriously fought until Moria used shadow asguard. You can point out that Moria blocked Luffy with Doppelman, but Luffy got past that and hit Moria in the very same chapter. There's no good case for Moria ever being stronger then Luffy, especially now that Luffy has beaten him. While Nightmare Luffy did seem unfair in many ways, Moria using 1000 shadows (10 times more then Luffy used) later kind of annuls it. You might say "but those are Moria's shadows," and you're kind of right, until someone (I forget the name) points out that Moria's crew must have collected those shadows for him. In fact, it's Moria's crew that took Luffy's shadow thanks to his crew. If you want to cry out "outside interference" for Luffy, then Moria's responsible for the same crime. Moria was fighting on his ship, after putting the crew through several obstacles, and in the end Luffy won. Besides, the fact that Moria couldn't beat Luffy with ten times more shadows then he used to me just symbolizes Luffy's superiority. Not that Moria wasn't a good fight for Luffy, mind you.
And the reason Luffy struggled so much was to make these guys strong afterward is, well, for this current arc. Plus, it's his way of respecting the shichibukai while at the same time respecting Luffy–he's making all of them seem strong despite one side losing. Moria is still considered tough, and he should be even after losing to Luffy. He doesn't need to be stronger then Luffy to do that, however. I mean look at them, no one is giving Moria any crap for losing. The marines said themselves "I hope he can still work for us." Moria is valuable despite be bested by Luffy.
See, you seem to consider Luffy as an ant in the world, a weakling. Yes, he's a rookie. Yes, there are stronger guys in the world, but Croc and Moria are no longer amongst them. That threat belongs to the rest of the admirals and shichibukai. The plot has build Luffy up as a 300 million bounty pirate who is one of the best in the first half of the Grandline...although that fact was only introduced after the New World was created, a place where the first half means nothing as so does everyone in it (like Moria, who fears the New World). Story wise, there's no need for Luffy to be weaker then Croc or Moria anymore, except for reasons you've created. I repeat, these fights go down this way so Luffy and that shichibukai can look strong in the end. Luffy nearly dies, while Croc or Moria get beat in an epic fashion. That, is being fair to all characters.
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Well if it didn't reduce his power and now he is one of the top 4 pirates in the world either
A) He was already at Yonku level when he got his arm taken or
B) He has gotten stronger
C) Everyone else has gotten weakerA and B are the more likely out of the two. We know that even before he got his arm taken he was at least Shichibukai level if we assume that he hasn't gotten any stronger then we admit that he reached his peak power over 10 years ago which is plausible i guess but given his age current strength (he did spar with WB) im going to assume he has gotten stronger in those past 10 years, i doubt a Yonku would leave the grandline anyway to stop at some no name town in the east blue.
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Storywise Croc is weaker than Luffy. When Luffy beat Croc in round 3 Oda titled that chapter "I will surpass you." You can interpret how the fight went down anyway way you want. Luffy kicked Croc's ass, Luffy got lucky, Haki was involved, blah, blah. But Oda is god. And he has it that Luffy has already surpassed Croc. It's canon.
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You just blew my mind, cause I don't remember saying this. Where did I say this? I want to know, because I'd go crazy if I accidentally looked like I suggested that.
Lazy, but I remember you writing that Luffy would pick up haki when he watched Hancock turn the marines into stone. I'd look it up if it weren't for the first word of this post.
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My point is Luffy can learn this move faster then you think, and I was barely talking about Smoker. That was more of the subject of the guy I was responding too.
I'm saying if, worse comes to worse, Hancock could turn to stone a large fraction of men around her and give Luffy a quick lesson. Difficult, but not impossible if she can get out of the immediate vision of WB's crew. However, I mainly suggested this because so many people believe haki will be difficult to learn. It is still a bit out of character for Hancock, maybe a little convenient.
Luffy could learn it be watching Hancock use it, that is one possibility. Another is that Luffy finally figures it out before Ace dies. Like I said before, you your imagination. I guess my big point is, so many people are acting like this haki thing is impossible when there are still so many options available. We don't even know how difficult it would be for Luffy to start using this technique.
Hey, it just occurred to me. If Luffy's already used haki so many times, wouldn't he just need to learn how to activate it on command to use it? That doesn't sound so hard.
Turns out I am not so lazy. Here it is. It's ambiguous, but easily misunderstood.
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You just blew my mind, cause I don't remember saying this. Where did I say this? I want to know, because I'd go crazy if I accidentally looked like I suggested that.
You didn't. You said this:
and how a haki master with the ability to freeze hundreds of men in stone is nearby
Odai needs to read instead of skimming.
Also, I love how this thread has been infested with an argument about the merits of Croc and Moria.
Isn't that what the Warlord thread is for?
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You didn't. You said this:
Odai needs to read instead of skimming.
Also, I love how this thread has been infested with an argument about the merits of Croc and Moria.
Isn't that what the Warlord thread is for?
The idiocy is in that thread is overflowing into others.
UsoppSpell!
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It's cup runneth over.
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You just blew my mind, cause I don't remember saying this. Where did I say this? I want to know, because I'd go crazy if I accidentally looked like I suggested that.
I'm very sory.. I just missread this:
"I'm saying if, worse comes to worse, Hancock could turn to stone a large fraction of men around her and give Luffy a quick lesson."
I hope i will not do such a stupid thing again..
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You didn't. You said this:
Also, I love how this thread has been infested with an argument about the merits of Croc and Moria.
Isn't that what the Warlord thread is for?
I know, it started with "can Luffy fight someone besides a Vice Admiral," but turned into this. It's a huge failing on the part of everyone involved.
I'm very sory.. I just missread this:
"I'm saying if, worse comes to worse, Hancock could turn to stone a large fraction of men around her and give Luffy a quick lesson."
I hope i will not do such a stupid thing again..
Nah, that's a reasonable mistake.
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Schibukai are so first half of the Grand Line. We need some NW relavent discussions going. We should be debating on who of the Yonkou's are stronger and which one's have DFs and haki.
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Moria>Mihawk since Mihawk can't beat a Yonkou's Third Division commander when Moria could fight toe to toe with a Yonkou himself, what a tangeld web you weave Oda, indeed.
Mihawk is like Kanye West…ppl only scared of him bcuz hes kinda crazy and dangerous...hes only got 1 friend Jayz i mean Shanks no 2 mention hes really cocky too and nobody in the OP world likes him..mayb kanye has a long black sword too!!
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I know, it started with "can Luffy fight someone besides a Vice Admiral," but turned into this. It's a huge failing on the part of everyone involved.
Personally I don't think Luffy will fight anyone special at Marineford. There's already a host of big matchups going on, and all Luffy wants to do is rescue ace anyway.
One of the things I love most about this present arc is how absolutely unpredictable it is.
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It's weird, but it seems your more inclined towards the villains and I'm more inclined towards the heros and that's were we disagree. No shonen in history makes the hero inherently weaker then the villain, or if they do some power up occurs to make them on the villains level. With One Piece, the villains tend to display their power in what is ultimately a shallow way that in hindsight shows us Luffy was either stronger all along or with Lucci he learned a new move.
I'm not in the Heroes side, nor in the Villain's side, I'm in the logic side.
I agree with you on Luffy VS Lucci, by the way.With Croc, Luffy would have fought evenly all along if he just knew about the water weakness. Once he learned that, Croc's invincibility faded away, though Oda was good enough to keep Croc as a serious threat. But in the end, despite Croc's lethal moves, through better hand-to-hand combat experience Luffy won. Any change in emotion is the fighter (in this case Croc's) fault, so if you said he got so mad he started fighting crappily, that doesn't excuse anyone. If you say he underestimated Luffy, that doesn't excuse anyone. It's generaly a taboo where I come from to make excuses for a loss anyway. That's unfair to the winner and shameful to the loser, especially when the loser is making up rules as to why they lost. Really, unless Oda writes a seen where Croc complains about his loss, I don't care for it. That says to me that Croc doesn't feel he was cheated into a loss.
Why are you going back to the previous argument when we already established that one?
Anyways:The only thing that faded away was the Logia thing of being able to be made of sand that would just come back while going.
He had a lot of moves in his moveset, and he used none of them, he decided to use the hook, the reason why is because he thought that Luffy was being annoying when surviving the sand mess. Which wouldn't have happened if Crocodile took Luffy seriously in the first round and if Luffy didn't have the whole water spitting luck in the second round.
No matter what you say, both of us know that the Poison Hook has less range and is overall far weaker than the Sand Attacks from Crocodile.And once again, although Crocodile had that personality, as I proved to you, if he took Luffy as serious as someone like Whitebeard (which was my whole argument since the beginning), Luffy would be dead.
You can't counter argue this argument now, you're aware of that, aren't you?
My argument is that if Crocodile took Luffy as seriously as Whitebeard, the first round would end with Crocodile killing Luffy.
Due to Crocodile leaving Luffy there, he gave a little chance for Luffy to come back and defeat him.
Luffy managed that chance due to help, came and had a great match with Luffy, Luffy had luck with the whole spitting thing, and had more chances to defeat Crocodile due to luck.Finally, Crocodile thought he survived due to some ability he has and used the hook instead of DF, underestimating him and thinking everything was over when he used the hook on him one time.
Luffy fell, giving Crocodile plenty of chances to kill him if he didn't underestimate him.This gave another chance, and Luffy was strong enough to use it and defeat him.
No matter how much you argue, the above facts can't be proved otherwise.
And I hope Oda doesn't write Crocodile complaining about his defeat, not only he isn't like that, as not Luffy nor Crocodile cared about what happened in Alabasta now.
It's a similar case with Moria. They never seriously fought until Moria used shadow asguard. You can point out that Moria blocked Luffy with Doppelman, but Luffy got past that and hit Moria in the very same chapter. There's no good case for Moria ever being stronger then Luffy, especially now that Luffy has beaten him. While Nightmare Luffy did seem unfair in many ways, Moria using 1000 shadows (10 times more then Luffy used) later kind of annuls it. You might say "but those are Moria's shadows," and you're kind of right, until someone (I forget the name) points out that Moria's crew must have collected those shadows for him. In fact, it's Moria's crew that took Luffy's shadow thanks to his crew. If you want to cry out "outside interference" for Luffy, then Moria's responsible for the same crime. Moria was fighting on his ship, after putting the crew through several obstacles, and in the end Luffy won. Besides, the fact that Moria couldn't beat Luffy with ten times more shadows then he used to me just symbolizes Luffy's superiority.
They never seriously fought? That's incorrect, Luffy fought seriously since the beginning, while Moria mocked him (once again, giving him chances to defeat him, altough small, which gave Luffy the chance for the kick in his ass).
And no, nice try, but your whole argument is falling apart.The whole Odz and Zombie Army situation has nothing to do with the SH's, it's a plan for Moria to dominate LATER, much like Crocodile and his pluton plans.
SH is just an annoyance.
Moria showed us both:-Doppelganger, that was enough to be as quick as normal Luffy (Possibly Gear Second Luffy? I don't think so).
-Shadow Box, that was enough to be as quick as Gear Second Luffy.
-Shadow Revolution, that can be used to make Moria be a giant without the need of Shadow Asgard, for example, or make him a ball like Guard Point from Chopper, or whatever he wants.
-Change with Doppelganger, which was definitely very quick and can be used very smartly.
-Finally, the whole cutting Shadow thing.
-And of course, Shadows Asgard, but I won't use that because its part of the whole situation.The reason why Moria got insane and started punching like a madman was because of the scenario.
If Moria wanted to, he would use the Shadow Box (due to him being bigger than Luffy) and throw the box to the water.
And this would happen if he took Luffy as seriously as Whitebeard (which again, was my argument from the beginning).
Once again, you can't counter argue with this.And the reason Luffy struggled so much was to make these guys strong afterward is, well, for this current arc. Moria is still considered tough, and he should be even after losing to Luffy. He doesn't need to be stronger then Luffy to do that, however. I mean look at them, no one is giving Moria any crap for losing. The marines said themselves "I hope he can still work for us." Moria is valuable despite be bested by Luffy.
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So, basically you picked my argument and inverted it, lol.
No, its the opposite, the World Government wants Moria back because he is still as strong as hell, if he could be defeated by Luffy without any struggle, the World Government wouldn't want him for shit, don't care what arguments you pick.See, you seem to consider Luffy as an ant in the world, a weakling. Yes, he's a rookie. Yes, there are stronger guys in the world, but Croc and Moria are no longer amongst them. That threat belongs to the rest of the admirals and shichibukai. The plot has build Luffy up as a 300 million bounty pirate who is one of the best in the first half of the Grandline…although that fact was only introduced after the New World was created, a place where the first half means nothing as so does everyone in it (like Moria, who fears the New World). Story wise, there's no need for Luffy to be weaker then Croc or Moria anymore, except for reasons you've created.
Luffy isn't a ant in the world.
He defeated Arlong, Don Krieg, Enel, Lucci.
That's not being an ant.However, the Shichibukais are in an entirely different league from that.
The Shichibukais are one of the three powers of the world.
The Shichibukais are the 7 best pirates that wish to be part of the government.
Luffy is still a rookie entering in the world.
Crocodile seems to have lost his dreams because someone defeated him later, probably someone very strong.
Moria lost his dreams because he faced a Younkou, that's probably stronger than Kuma, who owned the SH's.
Altough Moria is afraid of the New World, it is because of one Younkou, which at the moment would pick Luffy up and make him his slave.Luffy is weaker than the Shichibukais, no matter how much you twist it, because Oda isn't stupid, Oda isn't Kishimoto and Oda isn't a bad storyteller.
Oda won't make one of the Shichibukais weaker than one of the members that's still coming to the New World, and then make one of the Shichibukais invited to fight against New World forces, that are technically as strong or better than Luffy.
Oda is not stupid, Oda is not Kishimoto, Oda is not a bad writer, Oda is not lazy.
Oda won't make something as stupid as that, even if it goes well with a Shounen plot (In my opinion, it doesn't, but whatever)Your arguments are pretty much all Luffy biased, while mine are logic based (fuck, I don't even like Moria that much), and Oda pretty much hinted at Moria and Crocodile being superior to Luffy, and Luffy defeating them using his will and luck.
[Kenshiro]You already lost [/Kenshiro]
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@Fiasco.:
Moria>Mihawk since Mihawk can't beat a Yonkou's Third Division commander when Moria could fight toe to toe with a Yonkou himself, what a tangeld web you weave Oda, indeed.
It's easily explained actually. When Moria fought Kaidou he had haki. After he lost to Kaidou he lost his haki power. And is now weaker and overweight.
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It's easily explained actually. When Moria fought Kaidou he had haki. After he lost to Kaidou he lost his haki power. And is now weaker and overweight.
What about Boa's sister? does she not know of this magical Haki wasteline prserver and chin destroyer?
Mihawk is like Kanye West…ppl only scared of him bcuz hes kinda crazy and dangerous...hes only got 1 friend Jayz i mean Shanks no 2 mention hes really cocky too and nobody in the OP world likes him..mayb kanye has a long black sword too!!
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Personally I don't think Luffy will fight anyone special at Marineford. There's already a host of big matchups going on, and all Luffy wants to do is rescue ace anyway.
One of the things I love most about this present arc is how absolutely unpredictable it is.
I'm on the same boat as you. I'm just saying if Luffy HAD to fight someone, it would most probably be Smoker. Or maybe Kuma or Moria. Oh and a bunch of fodder.
And yes, this arc is indeed awesome :)
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@Fiasco.:
Moria>Mihawk since Mihawk can't beat a Yonkou's Third Division commander when Moria could fight toe to toe with a Yonkou himself, what a tangeld web you weave Oda, indeed.
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It's not like Mihawk went all out against him, all Jozu did was block a single slash
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Whitebeard's the most powerful of the Yonkou's, I'd assume his top division commanders would be near Yonkou level.
Captain: No way! Impossible!!
Rumor says that Moria was once on the same level as Kaido of the Four Emperors…It says Moria was once on the same level as Kaidou, which means Kaidou improved and then beat Moria.
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What about Boa's sister? does she not know of this magical Haki wasteline prserver and chin destroyer?
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Great posts Jadosra.I agree 100% with u.
About Moria Vs Luffy i have to add how easily Moria took Luffys shadow. If he didnt cared about building an army of zombies he could just throw luffy in the sea or leave him on the sunlight to be evaporated while Luffy was in deep deep sleep! About Luffy vs Crocodile round 3.isnt it truth that Luffy get inflected by Crocodiles poison(of the hook) and without outiside interference(adidote) Luffy would died few moments after the battle,while crocodile would wake up?Not to mention the other 2 rounds where Crocodile cleary won.
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I swear that the Shichibukai thread is infectious.
If grandma had nuts she'd be grandpa. Croc and Moria didn't even appear in this chapter (except for a cameo of the back of Moria's head).
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Some people are severly obsessed with the topic. They see any thread with activity as an excuse to keep at it, lest their retarded repetitive arguments implode their brains.
Please don't contaminate perfectly good threads. You're not saying anything you haven't said fifty times over. At least take it where we don't have to suffer.
Edit: Maybe Jimbei's former crewmembers are around somewhere? Remember the sun tatoo in one of the charging fishmen.
UsoppSpell!
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Wrong, Shanks hasn't gotten stronger since he loss his arm. They are equal which means Mihawk is Youkou level.
And Miwhak couldn't kill the whole WB crew in one flying slash which means in your logic .. Miwhawk is weak.. this equals Shanks is weak..this means Zoro is really really weak.
You logic is like
pinguins are black and white
old tv shows are black and whitepinguins = old tv shows
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guys….I read the last 10 pages....but isn't this chapter 553 discussions?....
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Maybe Jimbei's former crewmembers are around somewhere? Remember the sun tatoo in one of the charging fishmen.
Hey wow, something that's actually about this chapter. We also saw that the division 8 commander is a fishman, so I'm hoping that maybe that's what the 8th division is.
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Great posts Jadosra.I agree 100% with u.
About Moria Vs Luffy i have to add how easily Moria took Luffys shadow. If he didnt cared about building an army of zombies he could just throw luffy in the sea or leave him on the sunlight to be evaporated while Luffy was in deep deep sleep! About Luffy vs Crocodile round 3.isnt it truth that Luffy get inflected by Crocodiles poison(of the hook) and without outiside interference(adidote) Luffy would died few moments after the battle,while crocodile would wake up?Not to mention the other 2 rounds where Crocodile cleary won.
Without help from others.Just 1on1 Crocodile would have made the 3/3 imo.Machismo crap. No one does anything alone, or at least no one does everything alone.
Moria in particular never did much by himself. His crew stole Luffy's shadow, he just cut it off. Moria fought with Odz until he was put out of commission. Even in the end when Moria did fight alone, he used the shadows of his entire crew. That's not fighting alone.
Croc was better with this. But it still goes too far. Anything done after the fight is over isn't cheating or anything, otherwise it sounds like Croc being arrested by the marines is outside interference. That would be silly.
Jadosra:
Continue anything else in the shichibukai thread and I'll try to be a bit more strict in responding to you. However, it seems we're nearly the limit of how much we can discuss, especially if you claim to be following "logic." Your argument is if things were different, they wouldn't be the same, while mine is to accept things as they are. Frankly, I find any argument that needs to change the current circumstances the situation to make it work inherently weak.
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Fine, its weak.
But do you agree with the fact that if in fact that Weak Argument was in cause, the Shichibukais would win?
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Much more importantly, awesomomustache is finally going to fight seriously, after five hundred chapters of inaction.
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Much more importantly, awesomomustache is finally going to fight seriously, after five hundred chapters of inaction.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/awesomomustache.jpg
He looks…buffer. Vice Admiral Haki?
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Much more importantly, awesomomustache is finally going to fight seriously, after five hundred chapters of inaction.
[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/awesomomustache.jpg[/qimg]
I hope so, I'm itching to see just how strong these VA swordsmen are.
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Much more importantly, awesomomustache is finally going to fight seriously, after five hundred chapters of inaction.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/awesomomustache.jpg
HOLY SHIT!!! He was from that long ago!?!
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I see people are still overrating Mihawk, it seems like the last chapter wasn’t enough to put the Mihawk fanboys in their place, Mihawk isn’t even the strongest shishibukai, Kuma has done enough to be recognized as such.
We can’t have shishibukais being as strong as youkous, can we? It would disrupt the balance, Oda won’t throw the youkou’s hype out of the window like that by making them just as strong as some pirates that need the WG to survive. The youkous don’t give a shit about the WG.
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Well Doflamingo had the highest (revealed) bounty of all the Shichibukai so it would be realistic to assume he is the strongest. Some of them didn't have bounties, though so they could be stronger but weren't recognized.
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Dunno. I still see Mihawk as the likeliest to be the strongest warlord.
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Hey wow, something that's actually about this chapter. We also saw that the division 8 commander is a fishman, so I'm hoping that maybe that's what the 8th division is.
Do you mean to say that Jimbei's old crew merged into whitebeard's like Ace's has? Hadn't thought of that…
Much more importantly, awesomomustache is finally going to fight seriously, after five hundred chapters of inaction.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/awesomomustache.jpg
I have been trying to call attention to the awesometasticsicity of this man but no one responded. Glad to see someone else looking forward to his performance.
this tiny face doesn't even cover how cool he is.UsoppSpell!
On the eve of spoilerificaiton, you will wait until you remember it's break week.
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Doflamingo's power is very strong, but there's definately a way around it for determined people like Luffy.
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Do you mean to say that Jimbei's old crew merged into whitebeard's like Ace's has? Hadn't thought of that…
Well, not all of it. They all went different directions (Arlong), but I think it'd be cool if one of the factions did that.
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I see people are still overrating Mihawk, it seems like the last chapter wasn’t enough to put the Mihawk fanboys in their place, Mihawk isn’t even the strongest shishibukai, Kuma has done enough to be recognized as such.
We can’t have shishibukais being as strong as youkous, can we? It would disrupt the balance, Oda won’t throw the youkou’s hype out of the window like that by making them just as strong as some pirates that need the WG to survive. The youkous don’t give a shit about the WG.
and you are a moron for overestimating yonkou's. Yonkou's aren't feared worldwide for themselves as one person. The marines did not set up this many people all waiting for whitebeard. They were waiting for whitebeard and his armada. Whitebeard looks to have a following here as large as the marines themselves.
Mihawk is ONE person, of course he stands no chance against any Yonkou. But can he or any of the shichi stand a good fight against the four yonkou solo. Like whitebeard, shanks, kaidou, ect. Without their crews. Well Besides whitebeard since he is the strongest man in the world. Well it is obvious yes. Hell wasn't it even stated that moria was once kaidou's equal. Mihawk had many duals with Shanks.
so quit sucking the yonkou's dick. As Luffy has pointed out many a times, he is nothing without his crew. And hell even now without his crew he had to rely on making a new crew basically to be able to survive. The Yonkou are feared and great because they are leaders and get amazing guys to follow them. Not because they are one badass person. This is why Mihawk is as you could say weak. He is alone.
But that will work out and be fine for the series. He is with the whole marine force now. And when we see him later it will be an honorable dual with zoro 1 on 1, so it doesn't matter that he is alone. But when the strawhats do meet up with him later for the zoro fight, you can bet your ass that he would not stand a chance against their whole crew like Moria did when fighting. They would be too strong by then.
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Well, not all of it. They all went different directions (Arlong), but I think it'd be cool if one of the factions did that.
LOL if this was true. Imagine Arlong right now.
You win some you lose some, or you could just loose them all.
Mihawk is like Kanye West…ppl only scared of him bcuz hes kinda crazy and dangerous...hes only got 1 friend Jayz i mean Shanks no 2 mention hes really cocky too and nobody in the OP world likes him..mayb kanye has a long black sword too!!
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and you are a moron for overestimating yonkou's. Yonkou's aren't feared worldwide for themselves as one person. The marines did not set up this many people all waiting for whitebeard. They were waiting for whitebeard and his armada. Whitebeard looks to have a following here as large as the marines themselves.
Mihawk is ONE person, of course he stands no chance against any Yonkou. But can he or any of the shichi stand a good fight against the four yonkou solo. Like whitebeard, shanks, kaidou, ect. Without their crews. Well Besides whitebeard since he is the strongest man in the world. Well it is obvious yes. Hell wasn't it even stated that moria was once kaidou's equal. Mihawk had many duals with Shanks.
so quit sucking the yonkou's dick. As Luffy has pointed out many a times, he is nothing without his crew. And hell even now without his crew he had to rely on making a new crew basically to be able to survive. The Yonkou are feared and great because they are leaders and get amazing guys to follow them. Not because they are one badass person. This is why Mihawk is as you could say weak. He is alone.
But that will work out and be fine for the series. He is with the whole marine force now. And when we see him later it will be an honorable dual with zoro 1 on 1, so it doesn't matter that he is alone. But when the strawhats do meet up with him later for the zoro fight, you can bet your ass that he would not stand a chance against their whole crew like Moria did when fighting. They would be too strong by then.
Finally, the Mihawk fanboys strike back, in a fierce way!
Mihawk is like Kanye West…ppl only scared of him bcuz hes kinda crazy and dangerous...hes only got 1 friend Jayz i mean Shanks no 2 mention hes really cocky too and nobody in the OP world likes him..mayb kanye has a long black sword too!!
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So… it seems people are resenting the fact that even though Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world he's still not the strongest person.
