@Kitsune:

juju should be renamed Buzz Killington

hey take Naruto or anything to do with the topic out of the thread title and i will stop posting in this thread.

@gabzilla:

Most expensive screensaver ever

How to Train your Dragon was awesome.

Naruto is all about magical "ninjas" nowadays.

You are trying to prove Naruto vs Kyuubi was more creative than Kisame vs Killerbee. If you are going to use hand to hand combat as an argument, the same thing happened with Gai.

It wasn't something Naruto did. Period. Are you going to count Killerbee in the Gai vs Kisame fight?

I know that. I'm counting the summons, Kisame trying to get information out, using your surroudings to your advantage.

Much more interesting that rasenganrasenganrasengan.

You don't say.

Oh wait, you are serious.

What goal? Making money? Died like a punk. And broke. An "experienced warrior" that was beaten by a genin level jutsu.

Kisame died following his own ideals. Never give information to the enemy. Madara had nothing to do with the way he did things, since he killed his own teammates to protect information way before he met him.

He did nothing other than babysit Naruto.

Means shit is they are there as cheerleaders only.

LOL, such a feat.

I am sorry to inform you, but Naruto has been about magical ninjas from chapter 1.

@antiravage:

Naruto vs Kyuubi was still way more interesting because it wasn't reduced to two jutsus colliding with each other. That's the kind of fight that lacks imagination.

Kisame being defeated by a jounin makes him badass? The way Naruto subjugated the Kyuubi was way more badass than Kisame being pwned by Gai.

jonin is a ranked thats giving to you by the village. Gai would be considered S rank if he left the village.

@Tsukishima:

Did you see the manga? Look at the bad drawing, and the fight, come on, nobody can understand what's going on. The anime is really superior.

I have to agree. During the war especially, I couldn't understand what was going on sometimes. This is why sometimes i like the anime better. You can get a clear picture of wth is happening and where.

@Shuhan1288:

Trust me Juju is already a villain, someone has to be the Bellamy of my story.

well your story already failed.

@Chopperrules:

I have to say I was impressed by this chapter. Kisame was badass at the end here even after getting his ass handed to him by Guy.

Yea, i thought he was down for the count like the spoilers said, but guess not. He better create a water bubble or he dead.

@Zkaiser:

I really think the the thread name changes are really contributing to this threads frequent off topic nature. If the mods actually wanted this thread to stay on topic then they would stop creating titles that cause random discussion.

yeah thats pretty obvious.

@Thousand:

Sigh, I really don't see the point debating with someone who doesn't even understand the concept of story-structure and simply goes out of his way to defend minor trivialities.

Let me spell it out for you one more time Juju.

In fiction, whenever a rivalry is set up, good story-telling entails a series of skirmishes culminating in one massive epic fight where both combatants throw everything they have at each other both physically and emotionally. Chapters wrought with emotional buildup, symbolism and all their techniques. Not one chapter of one guy wailing on the other while the other provides a pathetic resistance where he's finally put down like a dog. That's boring and underwhelming. It was Kishimoto's job to provide this fight, he had it in mind when he first set up this rivalry to give us this fight when he still gave a damn… and he just made a rushed mess because he couldn't be bothered to make an effort.

As for flashbacks, flashbacks are supposed to add to the story, give a new perspective on things, explain a character's motivations, progress the story. Kisame's flashback was just thrown together in an attempt to give his death a semblance of a point but it was done so clumsily that it ended up making him look like more of a joke.

So you moved on from pulling shit out of ur ass huh? good job. The fight was boring to you maybe, but it wasn't to me. The fight was epic and wasn't rushed. a fighy doesn't need to be drawn out to be good.

Kisame story made him look like a ruthless killer and why madara send him on the mission. It didn't make him look like a joke.

@gabzilla:

The last one.

Incoming timeskip!

Who your favorite character so far. btw good review "waterworld had me LOL.
@iSheep:

Classic as always Gabzilla. Good review.
I don't completely hate this fight, I hate the way how the whole thing was rushed and forced. I enjoyed Kisames shark techniques. But I don't know, an Akatsuki member being fucking one-shooted? Weren't these guys supposed to be extraordinary in strength, rivaling the Kages (Oro/Sarutobi, Kakazu/first Hokage, Deidara/Gaara)?
And just asking, but where the fuck was samehada during the fight? I mean, It's his best and most powerful weapon, and he thought he wouldn't need it with Gai going complete apeshit?

Oro>Kisame and Kakazu got raped by the 1st. Deidara beat Gaara because of his village. They are Kage level or borderline Kage level. My ranking is

Tobi,Pain,Itachi,Oro,Kisame, Kakazu, Sasori,Deidara, Hidan.

@Thousand:

Because they're a fucking joke that got schooled by rookies no less. Do we really need to go into the Kakuzo fiasco? This is ANOTHER can of beans worthy of a monster post on it's own.

You mean all that matters in a fight is that it looks flashy and cool? Never mind story consistency, story development, character build-up. Just epic punches to the gut? Thanks for opening my eyes Juju.

Big deal, his 50% clone could have been reasonably equal to 6 gates then and his 80% reasonably equal to 7 gates. I know I'm pulling these numbers out my ass but my point is that in terms of not only power continuity but story development, the notion that 7 gates Guy is that much stronger than the 100% real deal is ridiculous and underwhelming. Kishimoto reasonably built things up for an epic battle with the careful power display which could have even resulted in eight gates guy and he just threw it down the toilet with this rushed mess of a fight.

Because going by story consistency Gai's most powerul technique should be weaker than Kisame's or, being very lenient, around even.

The more chakra you have, the more you can put in a technique. The fact that you're now covering your eyes to the fundamental power system of this series speaks quite a bit about your debating skills Juju.

Showing exactly how things we know have happened, happened for a pointless, dead character adds something to the story somehow?

Rookies? Kakazu was weaken by Kakashi and Naruto finished him off. Kisame got killed by a jonin that rivals Kakashi. Deidara got killed by Sasuke who was trained by Oro for two years. Pain was killed by a combination of Naruto,MInato,6 tails,8 tails, and intel. Sasori was killed by chiyo(not a rookie and Sakura). Hidan killed was killed by shikiamaru. Itachi lwt himself die.

I never said thats wat mattters in a fight. I was pointing out to him most Naruto fans new Kisame was still alive because of the way he died. Stop putting words in my mouth.

LMFAO Where are u getting these numbers from??? 6 gates Gai raped him with no effort at all. Your #s are ridiculous and so are you. Getting more chakra doesn't make you get faster.

Say wat?? Why does Gai and his most powerful technique need to be equal to Kisame. WTH are you talking about? Kisame was trying to suck his chakra of his move because it looked like a fireball which would of made his grow even larger. Naruto can have the most powerful attack like the resenshirken, but still can't beat the 4th or jman.

When did the story say this?? Pulling shit out of ur ass should be ur new nickname.

The more chakra you have the more you put into a technique? Where was this stated. Why was Naruto normal resengan more powerful then everyone else who used it? Kisame just had more chakra to perform larger techs thats it. We also don't know how strong Gai gates is.

Ur clueless and Kisame isn't dead yet.