Boring chapter. A lot of the stuff that occurred was either boring or unnecessary (the demon guards coming back)
Chapter 545: "To The Outside World Where The Sun Shines"
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Crocodile can easily be dealt with if he proves a hassle. This isn't the arid desert anymore, it's the open sea. Water water everywhere, and all that. All Luffy needs is some wet fists and a Jet Pistol or two, not to mention friction between Croc and Jinbei
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am i the only one who thinks that blackbeard and his crew lost intentionally so that they could get past magellan, recruit members from level 5 and 6? i mean thats why they got off video links, shiryuu is joining them too probably
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Crocodile's eventual betraying of the makeshift crew (going to happen, but being overblown in some regards) doesn't seem likely to happen until he gets anywhere near WB from what I see. So I'm not exactly putting much thought into it at the moment.
To me the chapter wasn't so boring, but more of a setup for the next, in which I think big things will happen. Hopefully we either get to see a full-on fight or a big surprise at the entrance of ID next time. Maybe even what BB/Shiryuu are up too.
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no if you actually look at the sanji and robin covers, all the cp9 covers were #11, sanji is #12 and robin is #13 so far, just means oda is now on cover story arc #13, if he keeps going with this pattern, each member will get 2 pages before they all meet up. they may meet up before oda is done showing what they all did on their islands though.
oda will most likely not go into each character's islands other then the cover pages. it's a good opportunity for filler episodes in the anime too! oda kind of foreshadowed them meeting back up very soon. instead of showing them all landing on their island, oda chose to tell luffy's story before he even mentioned where the others had landed. i'm figuring all of them are already on their way to where luffy is.
that would be awesome if that is what is happening now
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@Tai:
am i the only one who thinks that blackbeard and his crew lost intentionally so that they could get past magellan, recruit members from level 5 and 6? i mean thats why they got off video links, shiryuu is joining them too probably
you lost me, unless shiryuu is already part of blackbeard's crew. shiryuu destroyed the communications room, not blackbeard. if you're looking for a reason shiryuu would destory that stuff its pretty simple. he got locked up for killing prisoners in impel down. he most likely took out the camera's and communications so he could do whatever he wants. i really don't get where people are coming up with this crap about shiryuu joining blackbeard's crew (or being a secret member of it). it just does not make any sense at all. shiryuu has been locked up in impel down for quite a long time. shiryuu has made it clear that shichibukai are nothing more then pirates http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/543/02/ to him. he is in no way helping blackbeard, he just wants to kill people without magellan being called into the picture.
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you lost me, unless shiryuu is already part of blackbeard's crew. shiryuu destroyed the communications room, not blackbeard. if you're looking for a reason shiryuu would destory that stuff its pretty simple. he got locked up for killing prisoners in impel down. he most likely took out the camera's and communications so he could do whatever he wants. i really don't get where people are coming up with this crap about shiryuu joining blackbeard's crew (or being a secret member of it). it just does not make any sense at all. shiryuu has been locked up in impel down for quite a long time. shiryuu has made it clear that shichibukai are nothing more then pirates http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/543/02/ to him. he is in no way helping blackbeard, he just wants to kill people without magellan being called into the picture.
He had to at least struck a deal with Blackbeard, otherwise his crew wouldnt have made it to Lvl 4 so damn fast. More than likely, BB proposed that if he releases a shitload of Criminals to join him, and makes sure WG finds out about Magellans failure, Shiryu will be made the next Warden. Shiryuu doesnt recieve the death penalty, his greatest obstacle (Magellan) is removed, and he can kill and torture all the prisoners he wants. He doesnt want Magellan to find him cause hes one of the few people who can stop him now, and he destroyed communications to prevent the possibility of the riot being put down. If Shiryuus plan succeeds, we might even get a Magellan & Hannyabel cover story later on.
Also, i really wish we couldve seen more of Iva's fight with Magellan. If he was able to use Healing Hormones on himself, he might survive and keep moving again with Tension Hormones. Besides Luffy, hes the only one shown to actually injure Magellan, and i want to see more of his Newkama Kenpo. That last attack we saw couldve given Magellan some hormones, see how it looked like a rapid stabbing attack. Could we see a weakened Magellan next chapter!? I hope to God we dont get a female one, especially after looking through the Female Hormones thread.
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Wierd thing is, there is something I found interesting in the cover story; this may be the first time Robin's ever been depicted with a halfway normal bust size… Maybe Oda's finally decided to tone it down a bit.
Also, Magellan is just fucking everyone up left and right! Jesus…!
@Low-fi:
Crocodile can easily be dealt with if he proves a hassle. This isn't the arid desert anymore, it's the open sea. Water water everywhere, and all that. All Luffy needs is some wet fists and a Jet Pistol or two, not to mention friction between Croc and Jinbei
When are people going to realise water does not instantly defeat Crocodile?! It just makes him not invincible anymore.
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Hmmm Im still wondering… does that hook of Croc still have poison? :ermm:
Having no elemental phase would surely make Croc prone to physical attacks hence a defeat is probable. ^^
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I was re-reading some chapters. Looking at 537, there seems to be a drawback to Magallen. He cannot use too much poison. That is his limit. That, and there's a chance that Ivan gimped him too.
He's really pushing himself to reach Luffy.
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He had to at least struck a deal with Blackbeard, otherwise his crew wouldnt have made it to Lvl 4 so damn fast. More than likely, BB proposed that if he releases a shitload of Criminals to join him, and makes sure WG finds out about Magellans failure, Shiryu will be made the next Warden. Shiryuu doesnt recieve the death penalty, his greatest obstacle (Magellan) is removed, and he can kill and torture all the prisoners he wants. He doesnt want Magellan to find him cause hes one of the few people who can stop him now, and he destroyed communications to prevent the possibility of the riot being put down. If Shiryuus plan succeeds, we might even get a Magellan & Hannyabel cover story later on.
that theory makes WAY more sense. they did meet and neither showed any real signs of a struggle. shiryuu just seems way to caught up in his job to ever become a pirate. working with one to further his goals, that i could see.
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I was re-reading some chapters. Looking at 537, there seems to be a drawback to Magallen. He cannot use too much poison. That is his limit. That, and there's a chance that Ivan gimped him too.
He's really pushing himself to reach Luffy.
lol no.
Magellan poisons his own food which gives him diarrhea. If he uses too much his diarrhea is worse.
Plus, if he was talking about fighting, I doubt that he would worry about the ramifications his actions may have on his performance on the john.
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Goal: Prove the Elemental Haki Theory
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lol no.
Magellan poisons his own food which gives him diarrhea. If he uses too much his diarrhea is worse.
Plus, if he was talking about fighting, I doubt that he would worry about the ramifications his actions may have on his performance on the john.
Hahah. I noticed after looking at the sound effects.
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I have to say, Mr.3's manning up at the end of the chapter brought a smile to my face.
Also, I look forward to seeing just how legendary Buggy becomes after this whole thing is over. I'm hoping that his bounty ends up being even greater than Luffy's, but I suppose Zoro-Sanji's range is more likely.
The guy's finally living up to the potential that one would expect from a guy who used to run with Gold Roger…...
この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。
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Buggy wont even get a bounty exceeding 100 mils…
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Hey, a man can dream!
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Buggy wont even get a bounty exceeding 100 mils…
For WB being interested and seen some potential in him, only for that Buggy already deserved over 100 m.berry bounty.
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bounties are given by the level of threat one presents…
Buggys level of threat should not substantially rise, but he should get some friends at least
And yeah sure a man can dream, after all no matter how I say it, its only my opinion in this post as above as well, although I try to stay true to what facs we are given and what we already know concerning the issue
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Buggy singlehandedly broke out of his cell in what is supposed to be the world's #1 prison.
He then proceeded to start a massive riot, which then turned into a massive breakout attempt.(we all know this isn't exactly how it went, but the prisoners he let out think it's all Buggy.)
Given that the escapees themselves are singing his name in praise and looking up to him as the "leader" of this revolt, I can't see him not getting some insane
ly undeservedbounty increase if he manages to actually get out of there.Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if the Marines ended up thinking that this whole thing was his idea from the start.
In this case, it wouldn't be "threat," but rather the percieved damage that he's done to the institution of the World Government itself. Such a person wouldn't be let off lightly.
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I don't see Buggy getting a increase in bounty unless all the other prisoners who have successfully escaped get a increase in bounty. Cause at this point they don't know that Buggy let the prisoners in level 2 out. Besides they will focus on Luffy,Jinbei , Croc and Iva(Maybe others who helped them too)
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heh what if buggy get a gigantic bounty and then joins luffy's crew for safety. after all if he does get a huge bounty he will have all kinds of powerful marines and bounty hunters going after him.
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Wierd thing is, there is something I found interesting in the cover story; this may be the first time Robin's ever been depicted with a halfway normal bust size… Maybe Oda's finally decided to tone it down a bit.
Also, Magellan is just fucking everyone up left and right! Jesus…!
When are people going to realise water does not instantly defeat Crocodile?! It just makes him not invincible anymore.
True but a Shickibukai that specializes in water attacks and Luffy should keep him in check for a while.
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@Thousand:
True but a Shickibukai that specializes in water attacks and Luffy should keep him in check for a while.
Perhaps BUT I have not seen any water in ID so that only goes for when they reach the outside. . .
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Keep in mind though that Crocodile wants to kill Newgate and the best opportunity is at Marine Headquarters, where Luffy and company are looking to go to. I'm guessing Crocodile (and Mr. 1) won't split from the group until they get there.
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What I'm currently worried about Crocodile is that the one who was scaring him, Ivankov, because he knows his weakness, has been taken out
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ivankov saved Luffy from the poison so I think we can assume he/she can do it to her/himself aswell and that he/she isn't out for the count just yet. In fact I think Maggelan underestimated her and this might be just the thing that will allow the Luffycrew to get the hell out of ID…
Still, I wonder how BB will be able to handle the poisoning. Will Shiryu come to his aid now that he has backstabbed Magellan with some sort of antidote or an ability of some sort that can take the poison away?
Also, now that I think of it, he is called Shiryu of the rain, perhaps this might mean that he controls rain and if this is the case he might be able (if he is fast enough) to wash of the poison or something before it does too much damage . . .
Anyway, it is obvious that BB and crew will survive, I just really want to see how next chapter -
I think that Shiryuu can't handle rain or something. DF users weakness is water, so it sounds little bit weird. Yeah, i remember that Aokiji has an ice DF, but rain is still too … How can i say, overpowered.
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ivankov saved Luffy from the poison so I think we can assume he/she can do it to her/himself aswell and that he/she isn't out for the count just yet. In fact I think Maggelan underestimated her and this might be just the thing that will allow the Luffycrew to get the hell out of ID…
Still, I wonder how BB will be able to handle the poisoning. Will Shiryu come to his aid now that he has backstabbed Magellan with some sort of antidote or an ability of some sort that can take the poison away?
Also, now that I think of it, he is called Shiryu of the rain, perhaps this might mean that he controls rain and if this is the case he might be able (if he is fast enough) to wash of the poison or something before it does too much damage . . .
Anyway, it is obvious that BB and crew will survive, I just really want to see how next chapterEven if Ivankov is able to cure himself of the poison, I doubt that he would turn out to recover miraculously fast like Luffy.
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We dont know if Ivankov is in the same situation that luffy was maybe he is just with the Hydra poison like BB crew.
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It's very strange that the convoy to bring Ace from ID to MH seems so weak in comparison to the forces at ID, and even more to those at MH (marines,admirals, shichibukais) !? If someone wanted to free Ace, the easiest time would be during his travel from ID to MH.
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I think that Shiryuu can't handle rain or something. DF users weakness is water, so it sounds little bit weird. Yeah, i remember that Aokiji has an ice DF, but rain is still too … How can i say, overpowered.
noooooooooooo, rain is fine, its the minerals in the sea water that cause the problems to df.
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It's very strange that the convoy to bring Ace from ID to MH seems so weak in comparison to the forces at ID, and even more to those at MH (marines,admirals, shichibukais) !? If someone wanted to free Ace, the easiest time would be during his travel from ID to MH.
They are in the Calm Belt, travelling at a superfast speed thanks to current-manipulation via those giant gates.
No one except the Marines has the capability tofuck about in the Calm Belt.
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Most likely already mentioned but now that Ivankov is defeated Crocodile can do as he pleases, I'm thinking he'll either somehow screw over Luffy and head to Marineford first to take out Whitebeard.
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@123:
I don't see Buggy getting a increase in bounty unless all the other prisoners who have successfully escaped get a increase in bounty. Cause at this point they don't know that Buggy let the prisoners in level 2 out. Besides they will focus on Luffy,Jinbei , Croc and Iva(Maybe others who helped them too)
Buggy was one of the first prisoners reported to be out and part of Luffy's intrusion. They would probably assume (accurately) that he had a role in things.
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@Massacre:
They are in the Calm Belt, travelling at a superfast speed thanks to current-manipulation via those giant gates.
No one except the Marines has the capability tofuck about in the Calm Belt.
Say, maybe Luffy can finally bust through the GoJ now..
Buggy was one of the first prisoners reported to be out and part of Luffy's intrusion. They would probably assume (accurately) that he had a role in things.
Yeah. Anyone who busts out is going to get a massive bounty increase automatically.
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These are the kind of chapters we get when Oda increases his pace.
Ew.
Will not be a fond memory. Not at all.
I expect next week and on to be all the better as a result of it though.
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bounties are given by the level of threat one presents…
Buggys level of threat should not substantially rise, but he should get some friends at least
And yeah sure a man can dream, after all no matter how I say it, its only my opinion in this post as above as well, although I try to stay true to what facs we are given and what we already know concerning the issue
Well, generally I don't see how Luffy's level of threat would've risen when he received bounty increases, either. I mean, he went from 30 million to 100 million after beating Croc. The way I see it, that doesn't generally mean that Luffy became more dangerous overnight, but that the defeat of Croc simply had the WG realize that Luffy was a threat greater than they had evaluated, and thus they adjusted the bounty to be more accurate. It's sort of the same situation here with Buggy. The WG currently thinks he's 12 million East Blue trash, but after hearing all the (faulty) reports about what went down in ID, it becomes apparent to them that Buggy's capable of so much more than they had believed as of earlier. Hence the need for increase!
Well, then again, it sort of depends… I mean, we haven't been given any info regarding the possibility that Buggy has already received an increase since East Blue days. The guy's been travelling pretty much the same distance through the Grand Line as Luffy has, no? Naturally he'd have to have caught his share of trouble and fame. :X
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These are the kind of chapters we get when Oda increases his pace.
Ew.
Will not be a fond memory. Not at all.
I expect next week and on to be all the better as a result of it though.
i just find it a bit strange
this chapter gave me the feeling in about 20 or so chapters luffy should be on his way to mhq as a prisoner or ready to save ace
So why is he still goign with these cover stories
especially if hes doign 2 for each member
and would i be right in assuming oda releasing mini story books converning each crew members adventures?
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So why is he still goign with these cover stories
especially if hes doign 2 for each member
and would i be right in assuming oda releasing mini story books converning each crew members adventures?
lool wtf is that all about? Why is he still doing coverstories, you know this is the 3rd chapter to have one of the strawhats?
Where did you get that idea from? If you have info please link.
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@Thousand:
True but a Shickibukai that specializes in water attacks and Luffy should keep him in check for a while.
I must've missed the pages where Jinbei was shooting water out of his hands, mouth, chest, and gills.
I think you mean elite fighter in the water even though I recall him saying he isn't that good with fishman karate at some point, correct me if I'm wrong.
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jimbei basically said he isn't that good out of the water.
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@Zik:
I must've missed the pages where Jinbei was shooting water out of his hands, mouth, chest, and gills.
I think you mean elite fighter in the water even though I recall him saying he isn't that good with fishman karate at some point, correct me if I'm wrong.
Is it that much of a leap of logic to assume he can shoot water blasts with his fists? I mean he can do as much with air so…
Not to mention Arlong could do it...
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@Thousand:
Is it that much of a leap of logic to assume he can shoot water blasts with his fists? I mean he can do as much with air so…
Not to mention Arlong could do it...
IN THE WATER DUMBASS.
If Jinbei's in the water shooting water blasts, Croc is already dead since he'd have to be in the water as well. Or some scenario where Croc is by the shore or on a ship and Jinbei is in the water
When did Arlong shoot a water blast with no water around him? Sucking up water and shooting aint what I;m talking about. If it happened I've been overlooking A LOT when it comes to fishmen.
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@Zik:
IN THE WATER DUMBASS.
If Jinbei's in the water shooting water blasts, Croc is already dead since he'd have to be in the water as well. Or some scenario where Croc is by the shore or on a ship and Jinbei is in the water
When did Arlong shoot a water blast with no water around him? Sucking up water and shooting aint what I;m talking about. If it happened I've been overlooking A LOT when it comes to fishmen.
When did I say he could shoot water out of his body? I said he specialized in water-based attacks. Don't call me a dumbass when you can't even read properly what other people wrote.
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i just find it a bit strange
this chapter gave me the feeling in about 20 or so chapters luffy should be on his way to mhq as a prisoner or ready to save ace
So why is he still goign with these cover stories
especially if hes doign 2 for each member
and would i be right in assuming oda releasing mini story books converning each crew members adventures?
they may meet up AFTER marineford or before the cover stories are finished. just because they meet up does not mean oda can't continue to tell us what they did on their respective islands. i do think they will get an entire chapter or 2 dedicated to them while they all travel to luffy when it does happen.
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My guesses: Magellan asked his troups to destroy all ships outside before any of them is taken by the escapees. The saviour will either be Rayleigh, the "Rosy life riders" or Luffy's crew with Luffy's ship, but I don't think this is the most probable (actually I really don't think this will happen, but still a possibility…), most likely Hancock will come back with the marine's ship to help because she was worried and all. The ship might be big enough for quite some guys to get up on.
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they may meet up AFTER marineford or before the cover stories are finished. just because they meet up does not mean oda can't continue to tell us what they did on their respective islands. i do think they will get an entire chapter or 2 dedicated to them while they all travel to luffy when it does happen.
There's got to be something being told in the chapters when Luffy is recovering from his injuries after the 24-hour adrenaline shot Ivankov gave him wears off; I'm willing to be it'll be snippets of where the other Straw Hat pirates were and what they did.
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Arlong picked up water out of the pool in Arlong Park and threw it and it somehow was like he was throwing bricks. It wasn't really a water blast. I can't wait to see Jimbei get of of Impel Down and into the water, I can imagine him sinking all the ships surrounding it
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Well they should be in near the docks next chapter. So there'll be alot of water for Jinbei to use.
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I'm waiting for the spread where Jinbei takes out a Marine battleship with one punch.
