I don't understand why people think Chopper will fight Law just because they're both doctors.
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Chapter 498 "The 11 Supernova" Discussion
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Is anyone else seeing the vague Kid-Bellamy, Killer-Sarquiss relationship? This arc is pretty similar to Jaya in structure, so I could easily see the same relationship between those 2 characters.
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A while back i posted what i thought would be big battles of the straw hats vs the other 9 big shots But I did not say they would all team up on them nor did i say it would be in this arc like many of you have said the SH need competition and plus most of them aren't ready yet and then they might all have bounty's close to luffy's which I don't think would happen
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Law isn't a doctor. He's the Surgeon of Death. Probably a cute name because he's so badass but he has nothing to do with medicine.
Anyway I believe Oda-sensei is going to somehow incorporate all these characters into this new super mega awesome arc. How he does it, we'll leave it up to his godly creativity:)
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God_Eneru I would think it would be more likely to happen since there doctors but no one can be sure (except Oda) of what will happen
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actualy,I could see the chopper/other person matchup as possible cause of the diference.
but-yeah,Franky vs. Urouge would look good,I think only him or Luffy could make that match interesing visualy on their side.
ps:what exactly is the meaning of the ninja emoticon?
Oh it because the bountys are way too different for some of those fights to be realistic since what the odds that even Chopper and Usopp and Franky and Brook will win their battles? :ninja:
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Sigh, you just seen Duval's arc..That was boring!
The tension built and the hype developed for the eleven novas is there and they will fight the SH's.
@Jinbei: Your avatar is crushing (that's right crushing) new flavor people!!The Duval arc was hilarious and interesting…sure the results were disturbed but that's the point.
As I see it, the supernovas bring more blood into the series and lead to all of them possibly becoming crucial one way or another into the story. If we turn them into fodder now, then what's the point? The SH might as well march straight to Raftel with no competition and no allies or rivalries cause they'll just crush everyone perfectly like in every other shonen.
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@Tokoro:
The Duval arc was hilarious and interesting…sure the results were disturbed but that's the point.
Not to everyone man.
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And for some reason I think that Hawkins might be the first ever showned magic user?
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then what's the point?
The only point Miracles cares about: "AWSOM HAXXOR BATTLES!1!one!"
Seriously what is the point discussing with him? He will complain about anything that isn't fighting.
And for some reason I think that Hawkins might be the first ever showned magic user?
Didn't Oda say somewhere he didn't want magic (as in spell casting, not as in DFs) in One Piece?
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Well then maybe he has the Magic Magic Devil Fruit?
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and just what would that allow him to do? cast spells?
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I wonder what Uroge says if he finds out that Luffy beat Enel. I wonder if any of the rookies got some connection to any of the yonkou's?
Still I think we should get some update on Shanks & Whitebeard, like what happen after the confrontation? So close to the HQ they are bound to get some juicy info on the new world and yonkou's. -
and just what would that allow him to do? cast spells?
Well actually that exactly what Hawkins could probably do since it would explain his nickname perfectly.
His nen ability as a specialist, Emperor Time, allows him to utilize all the types of nen to 100% efficiency.
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ha. i just thought of something funny and incredibly unlikely. maybe bonney is luffy's mother! considering how young shakky looks, i don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE that she could be old enough to be his mom…
then again, it would be tough to explain why she's still a rookie. still, i've been dying to know who his mom is for awhile so it's just occurred to me.
ps: don't rip me to shreds. believe me, i'm aware of how unlikely this is. -
But for that to be true, she would have been ten years old or younger when she had Luffy which makes this pretty much impossible but good try though.
His nen ability as a specialist, Emperor Time, allows him to utilize all the types of nen to 100% efficiency.
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? How old is Jewelry Bonney? and how old is Shakky?
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If Bonney is a D. , she'd be using a fake name, like anne bonne and billy but i dont want to get too deeply into this <_<
I can't help it but i found a pic of michael alig wearing googles with a little psyco face, very familiar to eustas (I believe that he's based on william kidd thought and part of kidd's crew were from NY. Just a little information and connections i see, dont kill me >_< )
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? How old is Jewelry Bonney? and how old is Shakky?
According to you Emperor Time.My guess is that Bonnery is anywhere between the age of 22 to 27 years old. And my guess for Shakky is anywhere between the age of 53 to 58 years old.
His nen ability as a specialist, Emperor Time, allows him to utilize all the types of nen to 100% efficiency.
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My guess is that Bonnery is anywhere between the age of 22 to 27 years old. And my guess for Shakky is anywhere between the age of 53 to 58 years old.
The ages in OP are another story (I hope that's the correct idiom and I'm not misunderstood). Really, did anyone ever appraise the ages of characters correct? When I first read One Piece, I thought Ruffy to be 21 (he's 17) and Smoker to be 39 (he's 33). Some other characters I've appraised were also wrong, and I never got below the +/- 5 ages mark, because mostly the characters were way younger than I expected.
This time, I want to be right, and say Bonney is 18, just like Nami!
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I thought the plural for Supernova was Supernovae?
thanks bf
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My guess is that Bonnery is anywhere between the age of 22 to 27 years old. And my guess for Shakky is anywhere between the age of 53 to 58 years old.
So 40 years ago when she was chased by garp when she was 13? interesting. Even if she was 18 that must mean she stopped being a pirtate almost instantly after becoming one… What was then the point of saying that she used to be a pirate? The way they talked about her it seemed she used to be pretty strong while still a pirate. To me the suggests she was one for a few years atleast.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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look at doc kuleha…women in OP have some mystical force to look younger than they are...
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Hahaha, I say she's 68 with no wrinkles on her face because the special atmosphere of the place is good for the skin.
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I wonder what Uroge says if he finds out that Luffy beat Enel. I wonder if any of the rookies got some connection to any of the yonkou's?
Still I think we should get some update on Shanks & Whitebeard, like what happen after the confrontation? So close to the HQ they are bound to get some juicy info on the new world and yonkou's.I agree, it has been a while sense then.
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Mm, I have a feeling that this guy might be Rayleigh/Reilly
I mean it's entirely possible that he's Kizaru or someone just as important. But hearing that this guy is an ex-pirate who is apparantly stronger than Luffy; well it may mean that he has an interest in anyone looking to enter the New World (thus we see him with bounty posters). Since Shakky has no idea where he is, also supports it somewhat.
Plus, his hair is kinda similar to Shakky's
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So 40 years ago when she was chased by garp when she was 13? interesting. Even if she was 18 that must mean she stopped being a pirtate almost instantly after becoming one… What was then the point of saying that she used to be a pirate? The way they talked about her it seemed she used to be pretty strong while still a pirate. To me the suggests she was one for a few years atleast.
Maybe she became a pirate in her early teens, just like that real life pirate, whose name escapes me.
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Mm, I have a feeling that this guy might be Rayleigh/Reilly
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/Starfire_Fox/mysterymanshabondy.jpg
I mean it's entirely possible that he's Kizaru or someone just as important. But hearing that this guy is an ex-pirate who is apparantly stronger than Luffy; well it may mean that he has an interest in anyone looking to enter the New World (thus we see him with bounty posters). Since Shakky has no idea where he is, also supports it somewhat.
Plus, his hair is kinda similar to Shakky's
But Shakky figured he would be in the 1-29 districts cause he is a famous pirate of old. And would not want to be bothered by marines and such. So I doubt that was him. I don't know if we were told what district they were in when they met the Nobles and it showed him, but I doubt the Nobles go into the Lawless districts. So I'm assuming 31+.
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I may get killed by Final Fantasy haters for this, but doesn't Hawkin's design look a lot like Sephiroth. For some reason, the way he talks reminds me of him too…
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I am with the people who says that Rayleigh is the axe guy and knowing that he is obsessed with women (according to Shakky) we can conclude that he will appear after Nami and Robin without attacking them and giving them a lot of information but without revealing that he is the coating master.
About the Rookies we know that Apoo and Kid are fightning one against the other, Boney and Capone are near to start a fight and Law wants a fight against Drake but I doubt that Luffy will fight against one of the Rookies.
I believe that things will go like this way:
-Capone will win against Bonney or both of them will have an equal fight. After this Capone will find Nami and Robin and attack them, because Capone uses a device that protects himself against devil fruit users Nami and Robin will be reduced and captured. When Sanji will heard this new he will fight against Capone and smash him easily getting for him a bounty of 150 milions of berries and he will become the 12th Supernova.
-Zoro will be captured by the Bounty Hunters and sold to the Tenryubitto, because they want a strong slave they will save his life from the wounds produced by his fight against Kuma at the end Killer will apear against the Tenryubittos and Zoro will be free after saving the life of their owners, this will start a precedent that can be very dangerous for the noblemen.
-Rayleigh will fight against the winner of the fight between Apoo and Kid, perhaps Rayleigh is an Ouka Shichibukai but like Mihawk he is an almost retired pirate that sometimes goes out hunting another pirates, then he will become the maximum vilain of the entire ark.
-Bagil won´t fight against any of the Rookies, he hates fightning without any reason.
-Law will defeat Drake (or viceversa) and start a revolution in the island where the Tenryubitto will be pursued by the pirates who before that will start to be free thanks to Zoro actions, at the end the mess will be so noisy that an Admiral from the Marine HQ will start to move to Shabondy.
-Uoroge will be defeated by Robin with a simple movement, with this her bounty will go up to 130 milions and he will become the 13th Supernova.
-The last fights will be Rayleigh against Luffy (being Brooke and Chopper supporters) and the fight will be very equaled to the point that Luffy after winning will colapse and Rayleigh will accept to Coat the Sunny. The other one will be Zoro against Law or Drake and he will see how his bounty will go to the 240 milions bounty.
-The first victim of the Admiral will be be Bagil and after him one after another of the Rookies with the exception of Luffy (he will be exhausted after the fight against Rayleigh).
-After all this mess, Luffy will start a persecution against the Admiral and his personal army, in this part characters like Nami, Usoop, Franky, Brooke and Chopper will shine against the Viceadmirals and win them giving to Luffy crew new bounties that will scare anyone.
-Luffy will fight against the Admiral and he will win, after this Rayleigh will give the Coating to the Sunny and they will be able to go to Fishmen Island.
-In Fishmen Island they will have a lot of peace, here Hacchi will talk about his older captain (Jimbei) and he will say that the strongest Shichibukai are in the New World (being them DoFlamingo, Mihawk and Jimbei) with this we will learn that Blackbeard is in the New World.
I should leave the drugs.
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excuse me,but is this thread destined to become 30 pages long with the same,over repeated speculation,re-dished out at the first sign of the next chapter?
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I am with the people who says that Rayleigh is the axe guy and knowing that he is obsessed with women (according to Shakky) we can conclude that he will appear after Nami and Robin without attacking them and giving them a lot of information but without revealing that he is the coating master.
About the Rookies we know that Apoo and Kid are fightning one against the other, Boney and Capone are near to start a fight and Law wants a fight against Drake but I doubt that Luffy will fight against one of the Rookies.
I believe that things will go like this way:
-Capone will win against Bonney or both of them will have an equal fight. After this Capone will find Nami and Robin and attack them, because Capone uses a device that protects himself against devil fruit users Nami and Robin will be reduced and captured. When Sanji will heard this new he will fight against Capone and smash him easily getting for him a bounty of 150 milions of berries and he will become the 12th Supernova.
-Zoro will be captured by the Bounty Hunters and sold to the Tenryubitto, because they want a strong slave they will save his life from the wounds produced by his fight against Kuma at the end Killer will apear against the Tenryubittos and Zoro will be free after saving the life of their owners, this will start a precedent that can be very dangerous for the noblemen.
-Rayleigh will fight against the winner of the fight between Apoo and Kid, perhaps Rayleigh is an Ouka Shichibukai but like Mihawk he is an almost retired pirate that sometimes goes out hunting another pirates, then he will become the maximum vilain of the entire ark.
-Bagil won´t fight against any of the Rookies, he hates fightning without any reason.
-Law will defeat Drake (or viceversa) and start a revolution in the island where the Tenryubitto will be pursued by the pirates who before that will start to be free thanks to Zoro actions, at the end the mess will be so noisy that an Admiral from the Marine HQ will start to move to Shabondy.
-Uoroge will be defeated by Robin with a simple movement, with this her bounty will go up to 130 milions and he will become the 13th Supernova.
-The last fights will be Rayleigh against Luffy (being Brooke and Chopper supporters) and the fight will be very equaled to the point that Luffy after winning will colapse and Rayleigh will accept to Coat the Sunny. The other one will be Zoro against Law or Drake and he will see how his bounty will go to the 240 milions bounty.
-The first victim of the Admiral will be be Bagil and after him one after another of the Rookies with the exception of Luffy (he will be exhausted after the fight against Rayleigh).
-After all this mess, Luffy will start a persecution against the Admiral and his personal army, in this part characters like Nami, Usoop, Franky, Brooke and Chopper will shine against the Viceadmirals and win them giving to Luffy crew new bounties that will scare anyone.
-Luffy will fight against the Admiral and he will win, after this Rayleigh will give the Coating to the Sunny and they will be able to go to Fishmen Island.
-In Fishmen Island they will have a lot of peace, here Hacchi will talk about his older captain (Jimbei) and he will say that the strongest Shichibukai are in the New World (being them DoFlamingo, Mihawk and Jimbei) with this we will learn that Blackbeard is in the New World.
I should leave the drugs.
I AM SO GLAD YOU DON'T WRITE ONE PIECE!
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Doubt the axe fellow is the Coater.
I mean, if he's 100x tougher than Luffy and crew, why would he need to carry around a giant axe.
Sure Oda could make it a personality quirk for the fellow, but he doesn't seem to be the type to wander around rooftops pirate-gazing.
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Doubt the axe fellow is the Coater.
I mean, if he's 100x tougher than Luffy and crew, why would he need to carry around a giant axe.
Sure Oda could make it a personality quirk for the fellow, but he doesn't seem to be the type to wander around rooftops pirate-gazing.
Surely that's like asking why Zoro carries around swords?
I'm surprised there's no thread regarding theories on what pirate crew Rayleigh was in. Anyway i think he was the first mate of one of the Yonkou. Either that or he was (as the common theory suggests) one of Shanks piers i.e. a subordinate of Roger.
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How about we have one strong pirate that never was connected to any Gold Roger, Yonkou or other super famous pirate crew because he's just cool like that.:getlost:
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@VL7:
How about we have one strong pirate that never was connected to any Gold Roger, Yonkou or other super famous pirate crew because he's just cool like that.:getlost:
But that's…just...hmm I think you may have stumbled onto something here!
Yup imo AxeDude McWin is just a new character not connected to everyone ever. I personally believe he is a Bounty Hunter looking for his next wage.
Now to wait and be wrong.
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axe could get bigger.not gonna elaborate,there are too many ways for this to be done,and I don't wanna argue an unborn horse.
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I am with the people who says that Rayleigh is the axe guy and knowing that he is obsessed with women (according to Shakky) we can conclude that he will appear after Nami and Robin without attacking them and giving them a lot of information but without revealing that he is the coating master.
About the Rookies we know that Apoo and Kid are fightning one against the other, Boney and Capone are near to start a fight and Law wants a fight against Drake but I doubt that Luffy will fight against one of the Rookies.
I believe that things will go like this way:
-Capone will win against Bonney or both of them will have an equal fight. After this Capone will find Nami and Robin and attack them, because Capone uses a device that protects himself against devil fruit users Nami and Robin will be reduced and captured. When Sanji will heard this new he will fight against Capone and smash him easily getting for him a bounty of 150 milions of berries and he will become the 12th Supernova.
-Zoro will be captured by the Bounty Hunters and sold to the Tenryubitto, because they want a strong slave they will save his life from the wounds produced by his fight against Kuma at the end Killer will apear against the Tenryubittos and Zoro will be free after saving the life of their owners, this will start a precedent that can be very dangerous for the noblemen.
-Rayleigh will fight against the winner of the fight between Apoo and Kid, perhaps Rayleigh is an Ouka Shichibukai but like Mihawk he is an almost retired pirate that sometimes goes out hunting another pirates, then he will become the maximum vilain of the entire ark.
-Bagil won´t fight against any of the Rookies, he hates fightning without any reason.
-Law will defeat Drake (or viceversa) and start a revolution in the island where the Tenryubitto will be pursued by the pirates who before that will start to be free thanks to Zoro actions, at the end the mess will be so noisy that an Admiral from the Marine HQ will start to move to Shabondy.
-Uoroge will be defeated by Robin with a simple movement, with this her bounty will go up to 130 milions and he will become the 13th Supernova.
-The last fights will be Rayleigh against Luffy (being Brooke and Chopper supporters) and the fight will be very equaled to the point that Luffy after winning will colapse and Rayleigh will accept to Coat the Sunny. The other one will be Zoro against Law or Drake and he will see how his bounty will go to the 240 milions bounty.
-The first victim of the Admiral will be be Bagil and after him one after another of the Rookies with the exception of Luffy (he will be exhausted after the fight against Rayleigh).
-After all this mess, Luffy will start a persecution against the Admiral and his personal army, in this part characters like Nami, Usoop, Franky, Brooke and Chopper will shine against the Viceadmirals and win them giving to Luffy crew new bounties that will scare anyone.
-Luffy will fight against the Admiral and he will win, after this Rayleigh will give the Coating to the Sunny and they will be able to go to Fishmen Island.
-In Fishmen Island they will have a lot of peace, here Hacchi will talk about his older captain (Jimbei) and he will say that the strongest Shichibukai are in the New World (being them DoFlamingo, Mihawk and Jimbei) with this we will learn that Blackbeard is in the New World.
I should leave the drugs.
Not really possible, but I did like the theory. It was really odd, but had a cool ending.
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Surely that's like asking why Zoro carries around swords?
To make up for his….no not going there.
Really though, we all know Luffy is the biggest badass in his crew and 90% of the time he's without a weapon. For her to compare him to the likes of them and then call him 100x tougher, I dunno, doesn't sound like the guy even NEEDS an axe. I'm not gonna suggest he's some hulking freak (maybe he is) but someone who's on a completely different level wandering around rooftops holding what APPEAR to be bounty posters that needs an axe? Not sure about that.
Anyway, not throwing it out, but I'd have to be in the 'Don't think so' group.
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I'm not agreeing with the axe man being Reighlay(sp?) or Kizaru but…
Maybe it's because of his weapon that Reighlay(sp?) is "100 times" stronger. Zoro wouldn't be as strong without his swords right? Sure he would still be strong, but not as strong.
Why are some people guessing that Shakky is refering to his base strenght (unarmed)?
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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I've never thought of it being as his base strength; I think it's more his experience and his ability. I mean, for example. Robin's base strength isn't that great, but when combined with her power, she's incredibly strong. However, all the top pirates we've seen so far have no devil fruits, so I doubt Raleigh has one either.
For the record, why are we using Rayleigh? I'm pretty sure Oda's named him after Sir Walter Raleigh, the famous poet pirate who went looking for El Dorado. He was also a founder of Roanoke Island, a colony which mysteriously vanished.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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I think it's more his experience and his ability.
That would include his weapon, right?
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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That would include his weapon, right?
Well, yes, if the axe guy is Raleigh. It's probable he is, but you never know with Oda. For all we know, Raleigh could be Buggy and Shanks' former superior back on Roger's ship.
Also, worth noting were Sir Walter Raleigh's last words. He was actually allowed to see the axe that was to behead him, and he screamed at the executioner, "Strike, man, strike!"
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I meant regardless who he is as long as he uses a weapon.
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and so we go on-without aim,"from a wild clime that lieth sublime,out of space,out of time".
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lobolover, I'm sorry but I have allways wondered by the odd way you sometimes use a dash instead of space between words (mostly in your first sentance)…
Why do you do that?
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to sepearate the other part of the sentence.
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Is that a Czech grammar thing or a personal preference?
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@Fire Fist:
I've never thought of it being as his base strength; I think it's more his experience and his ability. I mean, for example. Robin's base strength isn't that great, but when combined with her power, she's incredibly strong. However, all the top pirates don't seem to have any devil fruits though they might have so I shouldn't go around saying it if it were a fact, so I doubt Raleigh has one either.
For the record, why are we using Rayleigh? I'm pretty sure Oda's named him after Sir Walter Raleigh, the famous poet pirate who went looking for El Dorado. He was also a founder of Roanoke Island, a colony which mysteriously vanished.
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