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      Here's something for everyone complaining:
      @Battle:

      Suck it up and wait it out.

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        He says that every year and no one listens. Why start now?

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          Great chapter! I wonder what's in Grove 0? Anyway, can't wait for the English scan to come out. Also, thanks for the Chinese scan, Battle Franky!

          Avatar from: http://www.chez-celine.org/mangas-one-piece-avatars.htm

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            @Hawkeye: Because 'now' is a good time to start growing up?

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              Now we know, why Rockstar is just a small noobie.

              I am Jack's smirking revenge.

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                I walk in the steps of great people before me who denied listening to the tyrannous voices of the administration like Whitebeard, psorlaras, and phenomenon and don't predict listening to any time soon.

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                  Who said anything about listening? I'm just talking about using some common sense and not acting like a spoiled kid.

                  But meh, I'm not continuing on this. No point.

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                    For the once that have trouble downloading..
                    Here is a link to the chapter (hosted on my website)

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                      the more and more I look at it the more Killer looks like a modernized Calgara

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                        thx battle franky!
                        and now begins the wait… at least the chapter is awesome enough to deserve being stared at for 3 weeks. 😛

                        i for one don't think that this is going to be a strawhat matchup. they might deal with one or two of the captains soon but i agree with whomever it was that said its more of a gauntlet situation. whatever happens, it's going to be badass.

                        trafalgar law=gin? somehow i don't see it. something about him doesn't remind me of gin. trafalgar law is my favorite of the supernovas. anyone else want to name their favorite?

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                          So, any guesses to who Kira really is? It's kind of odd his mask is shaped like a dial, but I doubt it's anyone from Skypeia. And my favorite of the Supernova 11 is Kid. He's probably a master swordsman, it looks like.

                          And I agree that there's not gonna be a 9 vs. 9 this arc. Instead, I'm thinking of the 11 doing a heist. That would be amazing. Classic, old style heist. Good times.

                          I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                            WOW, thanks BF, but the spoiler really spoiled the WHOLE thing this time, was expecting a little bit more, anyway, sooooooooo, does anyone think that the SH's will fight these guys, NAH, probably meet them, every pirate crew doesn't have to be an enemy, if you look closely, you can see some of the other captains just fighting for the hell of it, and their cool with each other, sooooo, my guess is that somebody is gonna hit a noble, and a Admiral will come, and we will have to flee to Fishman Island (not actually flee, but you know, get the hell outta there)

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                              I imagine each of the big pirate captains shown here represent different aspects of piracey. And in the end, the one who will surpass the rookies will be the one who gets piracey the most correct.

                              On another note, if these guys are the survivors, that means there really is a lot of pirates who didn't make it far into the grand line. For every one of these there must be at least ten dead crews who didn't make it.

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                                aight one question who's the guy between killer and urouge

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                                  i think the 11 supernova are going to team up and possibly take down an admiral.

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                                    not wery One Piece like,you realise Zigee,old man ?

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                                      How about we finally see the SH's go at it against the Supernovas In contrast to the freaking SH's wandering around for so many chapters (Oda's words)?
                                      Those who think the Sh's won't fight these Supernovas are silly, all of these rookies will go at it, and I am guessing the Ship coater dude is a fishman and he is 100 times stronger than the SH crew, we haven't even reached Jinbei yet.
                                      NOTICE: NO ONE PIECE CHAPTER NEXT WEEK; NO one piece manga in next 3 weeks until 5/15~16!!

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                                        no matter how high the bounties are for these guys, or how dangerous they may be, their crews could be fairly generic; heck, we don't even know how big their crews are!
                                        with the SH crew, you'd be in trouble no matter who you picked a fight with.

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                                          Uh I really don't care about the bounties, I just want to see the Supernovas and the Sh's go at it and plus if that happens and Admiral has to come!!
                                          LETS JUST GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!

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                                            @FFA: I doubt Killer is anyone we know. His wrist blade fighting style seems too unique for anyone we know. Actually, the one he reminds me of the most is one of the General Zombies: [hide][/hide]The Guy on the bottom left. It certainly makes me wonder if any of these guys had run up against Moria recently.

                                            I kind like the idea of a Co-op heist though. The strawhats could use some peers that aren't defeated enemies. It makes the world feel bigger. @''White:

                                            aight one question who's the guy between killer and urouge

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                                            Those who think the Sh's won't fight these Supernovas are silly, all of these rookies will go at it, and I am guessing the Ship coater dude is a fishman and he is 100 times stronger than the SH crew, we haven't even reached Jinbei yet.

                                            Don't call other valid opinions "silly" unless you want to be treated with equal disrespect. In regards to Reilly, the ship coater, Hacchi refers to both him and Shaky as "good humans" so there's no chance of his being a fishman.

                                            -One other item of note. These guys are all labeled "Rookies" which was the same title handed to Bellamy. Did everyone think that Bellamy was going to achieve the same notoriety as these guys? Did everyone over estimate Bellamy or are we assuming these guys are more powerful than could really be the case?

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                                              Uh I really don't care about the bounties, I just want to see the Supernovas and the Sh's go at it and plus if that happens and Admiral has to come!!
                                              LETS JUST GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!

                                              I really don't want to see that happen. If the pirate is worthy to continue in the story, let the seas and the world determine that instead of some pointless rumble who's only purpose is to increase a bunch of bounties. While I don't mind interaction or maybe a scuffle at this point, having the SH eliminating the competition before the New World would be boring.

                                              Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                              For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                @Senshi:

                                                So, what's Dr. Girlfriend doing on Shabondy Archipelago?

                                                Silly, it's just Uma Thurman from Pulp Fiction.

                                                VOTE FOR THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD

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                                                  Man a very informative chapter this week. I really like all of the designs of the pirate captains. I wonder if Tragiformia(sp?) Law use to be member of Kuma's crew (if Kuma use to have a crew) because I notice that he has animal prints on his hat and shirt just like Kuma does. Plus he has what looks like cogs on the sleeve of his shirt which can be associated with cyborgs.

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                                                    I think i can see some of the match-ups coming.

                                                    Luffy will fight Kid, partially because he has the highest bounty and partially because:
                                                    Zoro will fight Killer, as Killer is Kid's fighting man, and it'd work as a captain/fighter two-on-two match.
                                                    Sanji will "fight" Bonney by cooking for her until she's full.
                                                    Chopper will fight Law simply because he's some kind of a doctor.
                                                    Brook might fight Urouge, with the monk attempting to purify the undead.
                                                    Nami might fight Basil, in a clash of elements (although that's really more of a hold-over from my attempting to fit Nami into Ragnarok Online's class system).

                                                    And the rest i don't have a clue on. Also: Captain Kid lulz.

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                                                      sorry,but I can't realy apreciate the chineese,water marked "keep your hands off!" scans.

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                                                        @Senshi:

                                                        Jyabura looks hilarious on the coverpage. It's so funny seeing former government asassins acting so goofy like that.

                                                        They were goofy the entire Enies Lobby arc.

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                                                          does urouge have wings? could he be from skypiea? a long lost priest, perhaps? just a thought.

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                                                            @captainjustin:

                                                            does urouge have wings? could he be from skypiea? a long lost priest, perhaps? just a thought.

                                                            He's from the "Sky Ocean". Nothing way said on Skypiea…so, he's a maybe.

                                                            Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                            For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                              Awesome.

                                                              waits for scanlations

                                                              Originally Posted by Greg

                                                              Believe is song ripped from a dance craze that involves women in as little clothing as possible and crazy sex. The only thing happy-go-lucky about it is my cock.

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                                                                actually, i just read the translation and it said he's a "sky island" native. so he's got to be!

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                                                                  Oh shit there's a dead Marine pinned to that sign.

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                                                                    @Lobolover:

                                                                    sorry,but I can't realy apreciate the chineese,water marked "keep your hands off!" scans.

                                                                    You'll notice that a lot of English scanslators also have a watermark of some sort even despite the fact that their scanslations aren't used as often as Chinese scanslations were for others work (or lack of work, merey pasting translations onto already cleaned scans and so on.)

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                                                                      @Neo:

                                                                      I think i can see some of the match-ups coming.

                                                                      Luffy will fight Kid, partially because he has the highest bounty and partially because:
                                                                      Zoro will fight Killer, as Killer is Kid's fighting man, and it'd work as a captain/fighter two-on-two match.
                                                                      Sanji will "fight" Bonney by cooking for her until she's full.
                                                                      Chopper will fight Law simply because he's some kind of a doctor.
                                                                      Brook might fight Urouge, with the monk attempting to purify the undead.
                                                                      Nami might fight Basil, in a clash of elements (although that's really more of a hold-over from my attempting to fit Nami into Ragnarok Online's class system).

                                                                      And the rest i don't have a clue on. Also: Captain Kid lulz.

                                                                      I doubt we're going to see match ups like that anytime soon. The lady made pretty clear that these are Luffy's rivals, and the prime crop of the new generation. While some of them will likely be defeated during the journey, most of them will probably end up in the New World

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                                                                        @FFA: I doubt Killer is anyone we know. His wrist blade fighting style seems too unique for anyone we know. Actually, the one he reminds me of the most is one of the General Zombies: [hide][qimg]http://img7.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000452/010-011.jpg[/qimg][/hide]The Guy on the bottom left. It certainly makes me wonder if any of these guys had run up against Moria recently.

                                                                        There's actually a popular ninja weapon called Tekagi-Shuko that were ninja claws/arm-blades. They came in many varieties. Plus, some tribes in Africa use long arm blades to fight each other.

                                                                        From his dress, he kinda looks like Nero. But I don't wanna start a huge Duval-esque scenario again, so let's just say Kira's someone new for now.

                                                                        I kind like the idea of a Co-op heist though. The strawhats could use some peers that aren't defeated enemies. It makes the world feel bigger.

                                                                        And yeah, but the question is, what would they all hit? The WG? Mariejoie? The biggest bank in Shabondy Isles? Oda has so much potential with this.

                                                                        I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                          @boiga:

                                                                          -One other item of note. These guys are all labeled "Rookies" which was the same title handed to Bellamy. Did everyone think that Bellamy was going to achieve the same notoriety as these guys? Did everyone over estimate Bellamy or are we assuming these guys are more powerful than could really be the case?

                                                                          When I read about them being called "Rookies", it reminded me of Rockstar. If I recall correctly he was also called "Rookie". So I thinking, maybe on the first island in New World there will be representatives of all emperors asking to join their side. Some may accept invitation and later be weaker opponents in fights with emperors. Others (like Strawhats) may go their own way. Also some of them may be used to show strength of new characters (like: admiral, Reilly, Jinbei).

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                                                                            coded-I know that,but OP Manga v. 2 has LOTS of jojohot scans made into english ones.

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                                                                              To go along with this whole 9 vs 9 thing, since I'm bored, though it's not gonna happen..

                                                                              Luffy vs Kid - The only matchup that I think will happen. I think Mr. Reily won't coat Kid's boat, and he will coat Luffy's, and this will get Kid pissed. Luffy then handles Kid like how he handled Bellamy.

                                                                              Franky vs Urogue - Hopefully he brought the pillar chucks with him.

                                                                              Brooke vs Apoo - MUSICIANS DO BATTLE

                                                                              the others don't matter anymore

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                                                                                @grandjedi:

                                                                                I doubt we're going to see match ups like that anytime soon. The lady made pretty clear that these are Luffy's rivals, and the prime crop of the new generation. While some of them will likely be defeated during the journey, most of them will probably end up in the New World

                                                                                Well, you've got a point that there's probably not going to be the typical "shatter their dreams and leave them a broken, empty husk of a person" that usually happens, but i still think there's gonna be a match up and maybe some kind of a fight on the island. It'd certainly lead to a longer rivalry.

                                                                                Hell, this might even be a point where Zoro'll get a bounty raise from fighting and jump back up to being more than half of Luffy's bounty; i find anything less than that to be a little disappointing, but that's because i'm a Zoro fan.

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                                                                                  The only person out of the Strawhats who really has a reason to fight are Luffy and Zoro. Zoro because if their is a strong swordsman he will want to defeat him, and if the swordsman are anythig like Zoro. They would also want to fight him.

                                                                                  And Luffy is going to try to be the Pirate King so any others that are tryign for that could start a confrontation as well. The rest would just be fighting to help Luffy against numbers or Zoro. Unless some story type thing happens that they all want to fight for.

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                                                                                    I'm thinking that these pirates and the SHs are going to have some kind of conflict, and not necessarily fighting. I'm getting to thinking Usopp and Urogue might trade dials?

                                                                                    I think this because, Urogue has the lowest bounty there. Yeah, I know "bounties don't equal strength," but he's still in last place as far as we know. Add this to the fact that Uroque's still a big scary looking dude and you have great potential for conflict.

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                                                                                      @captainjustin:

                                                                                      actually, i just read the translation and it said he's a "sky island" native. so he's got to be!

                                                                                      There are more islands then skypiea. IIRC there was a path in the white sea similar to those down on the blue sea.

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                                                                                      What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                        Why does Shacky look like a man to me?

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                                                                                          Another random thought: everyone's been saying "Trafalgar = Gin" for a good chunk of the day, but somehow I noticed he has a similarity to Jay Kay from Jamiroquai. Probably just the hat.

                                                                                          Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…

                                                                                          For the first 18 volumes.

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                                                                                            http://rapidshare.com/files/110414377/One_Piece_498_Raw.zip

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                                                                                              interesting that a raw is posted in the translation/scanlation forum… =P

                                                                                              thanks all the same for posting it though. 😃

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                                                                                              What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                                                @Neo:

                                                                                                Well, you've got a point that there's probably not going to be the typical "shatter their dreams and leave them a broken, empty husk of a person" that usually happens, but i still think there's gonna be a match up and maybe some kind of a fight on the island. It'd certainly lead to a longer rivalry.

                                                                                                Hell, this might even be a point where Zoro'll get a bounty raise from fighting and jump back up to being more than half of Luffy's bounty; i find anything less than that to be a little disappointing, but that's because i'm a Zoro fan.

                                                                                                Well I do think there will be a fight of some kind too. But I doubt these guys are the typically "fight of the arc" people for each crewmember. If I had to guess I'd say there will be some skirmishes on this island and then the main event will be at Fishman Island. During the arc some of these Rookies will probably be defeated but some will also make it to the New World I'd say. Since these rookies are suppose to serve as a contrast or comparision with Luffy, it would be silly to have them be defeated so quickly by the Strawhats

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                                                                                                  Where are you guys finding the translated versions? they haven't come out at the places I go (okay so I'm kinda new at this)

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                                                                                                  what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)

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                                                                                                    sorry lol. new to the site and i couldnt find if raws were here so i posted the one i found in a thread i thought would be relevant xD

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                                                                                                      @choperman:

                                                                                                      Where are you guys finding the translated versions? they haven't come out at the places I go (okay so I'm kinda new at this)

                                                                                                      There aren't any scanlations out yet. However we do have the Raw and a translation by blendy (both in the OP). So people are just putting it together mentally for now

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                                                                                                        Thank you grandjedi

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                                                                                                        what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)

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