From the mere mention of BB being able to absorb even lightening, I had figured this was an indication of any possible confrontation with Enel would end in Enel's demise.
My guess for the logia who'd give BB the best challenge is Aokiji. Unlike all the other logia DF's, how do you counter freezing? maybe BB would be able to absorb all the ice away.
WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!
In a star the neuclear fusion is that power that
prevents its gravity to make it to colapse
into a black hole.
But I don't think that we ll see a DF of that type to beat BB.
Since BB can take physical damage, luffy can beat him.
That is what will make the battle BB vs Luffy epic.
Well none of those people has come back AS OF YET. I mean of course we might predict some coming back but none has done that so far.
There probably is a Light Light Fruit to counter Blackbeard's, but I'm skeptical if that's the person who's going to defeat him. More than anyone, Blackbeard has set himself up to be a foil for Luffy, and Blackbeard's defeat will more than likely come at our hero's hands.
Enel is trapped on the moon. If you've been watching the cover arc, someone blew up his ark. Without Maxim, there's no way for him to leave the moon. People ask how he breathed in space and I think he didn't; I believe he went inside deck while Maxim was in transit. Granted, there are a lot of other things wrong with Enel arriving on the moon, but this is a Shonen Manga. At last, I've come to accept that you can't expect a Shonen to follow every rule of reality; in fact, quite a few will actually be broken.
As for non-recurring characters, although it's horribly cliche, what if they all showed up just before Luffy reached Raftel and challenged them? Granted, I can't see some of them making it to the New World, but with a little improvement on their part, anything's possible.
Im having my doubts about there being a light-light fruit.. Simply because of the fact of it being a DEVIL fruit. But on the other hand - a name doesn't say everything, for all we know some cute fluffy bunny's made it ^^
From the mere mention of BB being able to absorb even lightening, I had figured this was an indication of any possible confrontation with Enel would end in Enel's demise.
Well, he received damage from Ace's attacks, so the fact that he can draw things to himself with his power doesn't mean that he wouldn't receive damage from an attack. It would really be up to how well his body can take hits rather than a case of his Logia mitigating the damage.
My guess for the logia who'd give BB the best challenge is Aokiji. Unlike all the other logia DF's, how do you counter freezing? maybe BB would be able to absorb all the ice away.
Considering that Aokiji needs to be in contact with something to freeze it, I doubt that he's the best choice to face off against Teach. In fact, Ice Time is probably the single worst attack any Logia could use against him as the sustained contact it requires would leave Aokiji completely exposed to Teach's counterattack. On top of that, he'll probably be just as confused about his powers not working as Ace was, so using Ice Time (which would seem to be his traditional finishing move) on Teach would be very costly for Aokiji.
Complicating things since 2009.
I really doubt it. It seems more likely that Blackbeard ends up the main villian; his power is darkness for crying out loud! Also, considering that Blackbeard is looking for Luffy, it's pretty much certain that they'll meet (and fight). Also, if Ace loses it could make the fight for Luffy emotional, so it'd make a good final fight. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that that's the way Oda's been setting Blackbeard up.
So you are saying he's spread thorugh the elements right?
Not quite. Enel creates light too.
Now, ther'es probably a light fruit as well, But even the power of light is too slow for darkness(which light runs at the speed of light)
Well, he received damage from Ace's attacks, so the fact that he can draw things to himself with his power doesn't mean that he wouldn't receive damage from an attack. It would really be up to how well his body can take hits rather than a case of his Logia mitigating the damage.
I did think about BB still receiving the damage from Enel's lightening attacks, and i'd imagine if BB can survive Ace's fireball attack w/ such intense heat, he could probably survive Enel's lightening attacks similarly. BB seems to take pride in his resilience and so far his pride hasn't let him down.
Considering that Aokiji needs to be in contact with something to freeze it, I doubt that he's the best choice to face off against Teach. In fact, Ice Time is probably the single worst attack any Logia could use against him as the sustained contact it requires would leave Aokiji completely exposed to Teach's counterattack. On top of that, he'll probably be just as confused about his powers not working as Ace was, so using Ice Time (which would seem to be his traditional finishing move) on Teach would be very costly for Aokiji.
Aokiji is quite the slow fighter, however, he displayed exceptional resilience w/o using DF powers. to me, this indicates that he's capable of fighting w/o his DF powers when he realizes that BB is capable of hitting him regardless of him being a logia. I'm also expecting Aokiji to be a clever fighter, and will not rely on techniques and attacks that would leave him exposed everytime.
Considering that Aokiji needs to be in contact with something to freeze it
no he doesnt just look at the Ice time capsule he did at Saul, he just shoot it along the ground and it worked just as well in freezing him up,
but i supposing his freezing abilitys get stronger when hes in direct contact with em.
no he doesnt just look at the Ice time capsule he did at Saul, he just shoot it along the ground and it worked just as well in freezing him up,
but i supposing his freezing abilitys get stronger when hes in direct contact with em.
Since the move is Ice Time Capsule, I believe it's just a delay of the freezing ability, and that allows it to travel as a projectile.
Personally, I think his ability to take damage was limited twenty years ago as opposed to now. Look here:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2/chapter397.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5772
Shown here, he dodges Saulo's attempt at striking him.
But here, on Longringlongland:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2/onepiecechapter320.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1431
Robin shatters him and he reforms with little effort.
And here, with Luffy:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2/onepiecechapter320.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1435
He takes a bullet and doesn't even move. Not to mention the Storm that Luffy gives later but is totally ineffective.
I don't think it's so much direct contact having a greater effect, it's that he elicits a greater control over his powers. Another example would be him freezing a path for Robin in the past, but for Tonjit, he froze the entire ocean.
sure why not that explanaition works as well as any other, honestly i dont care whats the science behind it happening i only care bout the point that he doesnt need to touch people in order to freeze em^^.
and bout the stamina thingy i figure theres a diffrence betwenn the hitting power of a gigant and Luffy thats about the size of the atlantic, had he hit him he would have shattered him completly leaving them with atleast a little more time to escape, im guessing that was the plan cause saul seemed to be painfuly aware that he couldnt beat him.
I predict that: Blackbeard is Luffy's drunken uncle.
LOL, Time for a Blackbeard rant!!!
Blackbeard can obviously take alot of damage, so far he is the ONLY character in all of One Piece to display such great Endurance (He laughed off Ace's "Hiken" attack and surived easily). Remember Blackbeard has already got the best of Red-Haired Shanks by making him look like a wild animal attack victim.
Also Shanks and Blackbeard splitting the sky is no better than Ener blowing up an island or Ace creating the sun it is just a feat. Blackbeard's Blackhole powers are more powerful than all of those. Blackbeard as of Now has displayed the greatest power in One Piece. I don't see him losing to a Shanks just off of one feat.
This is kinda random, but after seeing a picture of BB, my non-OP savvy friend thought that BB had skin cancer on his stomach.
WTF….....This thread is kinda mixed up? So BB has skin cancer, I hear! LOL
Well, in the picture with him and all his other crew members, his chest hair looks like cancer.
The reason why Enel has the possibility to defeat Blackbeard is because of the power of electromagnetism.
Out of the four major forces in the universe, Gravity is the weakest.
Major nuclear
Minor Nuclear
Electromagnetism
Gravity
Examples:
When you place a piece if iorn next to metal shavings, nothing happens because the force of attraction is too weak and is bloked out by the earth.
when you place a magnetized piece of iorn next to metal shavings, the are immediately attracted to it and attach themselves to the surface.
High speed trains in japan are launched on rails held only by magnetism. even though the mass of the magnets are small in comparison to the mass of the earth, the power of electromagnetism over powers the gravity.
Solar radiation And solar winds constantly batter the earth. None of the rays reach the earth because the earth itself is a giant magnet and repells the deadly waves. If gravity was stronger than electromagnetism, the waves would reach the surface with the pull of the earth.
People only believe gravity is strong because we only see it in objects the size of planets, suns, and moons. Gravity is sometimes misunderstood as the srongest because of blackholes. Due to hawking radiation, a black hole is not as powerful as though since atoms are able to escape the pull through the ececretion jet. blackholes are created when Major Nuclear power is exerted in one location such as a supernova.
The facts of electromagnetism show that it has greater power than Gravity.
If an object with a mass of 50 solarmasses( typical blackhole) and a magnetic charge were to come in contact with a blackhole, it would destroy the Black hole. However, this is only in theory because nothing but Quasars, Pulsars, Nuetron stars, Blackholes, and Super Red Giants have been observed to hold a mass of that preportion. Electromagnetism has shown that if an object of equal mass encountered another object of equal mass that was magnetised, the magnetic object would over power the non-magnetized object.
Blackbeard: Raahhhh!!!
Aaagh!!!
(hisss!!!)
Hahh…
Hahh...
I just told you...!! Darkness sucks in everything.
Bullets, blades, blows, blazes and lightning blasts!!!
Blackbeard said it. Ener gets raped.^^^
The reason why Enel has the possibility to defeat Blackbeard is because of the power of electromagnetism.
Out of the four major forces in the universe, Gravity is the weakest.
Major nuclear
Minor Nuclear
Electromagnetism
GravityExamples:
When you place a piece if iorn next to metal shavings, nothing happens because the force of attraction is too weak and is bloked out by the earth.
when you place a magnetized piece of iorn next to metal shavings, the are immediately attracted to it and attach themselves to the surface.High speed trains in japan are launched on rails held only by magnetism. even though the mass of the magnets are small in comparison to the mass of the earth, the power of electromagnetism over powers the gravity.
Solar radiation And solar winds constantly batter the earth. None of the rays reach the earth because the earth itself is a giant magnet and repells the deadly waves. If gravity was stronger than electromagnetism, the waves would reach the surface with the pull of the earth.
People only believe gravity is strong because we only see it in objects the size of planets, suns, and moons. Gravity is sometimes misunderstood as the srongest because of blackholes. Due to hawking radiation, a black hole is not as powerful as though since atoms are able to escape the pull through the ececretion jet. blackholes are created when Major Nuclear power is exerted in one location such as a supernova.
The facts of electromagnetism show that it has greater power than Gravity.
If an object with a mass of 50 solarmasses( typical blackhole) and a magnetic charge were to come in contact with a blackhole, it would destroy the Black hole. However, this is only in theory because nothing but Quasars, Pulsars, Nuetron stars, Blackholes, and Super Red Giants have been observed to hold a mass of that preportion. Electromagnetism has shown that if an object of equal mass encountered another object of equal mass that was magnetised, the magnetic object would over power the non-magnetized object.
Alas, if this was the real world, I would agree with you. You're right, cosmic radiation can escape the force of a blackhole. Black holes are actually created when a star's mass becomes so great that the Pauli effect cannot maintain itself and the star becomes zero-point (or absolute) matter, also known as a singularity. anything that approaches a singularity also gets sucked in, and that's what creates a black hole.
But, this is a manga, and Oda's not a theoretical physicist. He's a brilliant storyteller with a great romance story. Enel being electromagnetic radiation has no bearing on his ability to defeat Blackbeard. Oda will decide who's best suited to defeat Blackbeard, and that person is most likely Luffy.
@Fire Fist:
Oda will decide who's best suited to defeat Blackbeard, and that person is most likely Luffy.
Heck their could be alot of people that are able to defeat Blackbeard. I really don't see how Luffy can even talk to Blackbeard. anyone who fights him most likely will have trouble, Blackbeards powers suit his skills well.
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
Heck their could be alot of people that are able to defeat Blackbeard. I really don't see how Luffy can even talk to Blackbeard. anyone who fights him most likely will have trouble, Blackbeards powers suit his skills well.
Because Luffy's the hero? This is HIS story. Blackbeard's goals are parallel to Luffy's, and he is in exact opposition to him. A villian who is an exact foil to the hero is the antagonist, and in 99% of stories, only the hero can defeat this person.
Granted, there are a few exceptions, like Yu Yu Hakusho, but technically, Yama only lost to his next opponent BECAUSE of his fight with Yusuke.
@Fire Fist:
Because Luffy's the hero? This is HIS story. Blackbeard's goals are parallel to Luffy's, and he is in exact opposition to him. A villian who is an exact foil to the hero is the antagonist, and in 99% of stories, only the hero can defeat this person.
Granted, there are a few exceptions, like Yu Yu Hakusho, but technically, Yama only lost to his next opponent BECAUSE of his fight with Yusuke.
I beleive we all know that, All I am saying is I am going to question HOW Luffy beats Blackbeard (If they do fight) Luffy's victories has been a little suspect in his career so far. Take the Crocodile fight for instance I still question Luffy's so called victory.
For someone like Luffy to handle Blackbeard or ANY other big timer is beyond me.
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
I beleive we all know that, All I am saying is I am going to question HOW Luffy beats Blackbeard (If they do fight) Luffy's victories has been a little suspect in his career so far. Take the Crocodile fight for instance I still question Luffy's so called victory.
For someone like Luffy to handle Blackbeard or ANY other big timer is beyond me.
Well, it's the same thing as how Yusuke beat Toguro. It just happens. Questioning Shonen Logic is the worst thing you can do. It's like asking how Lambo used the 10 year bazooka on his 15 year old self to win his ring battle in Katekyo Hitman Reborn.
Whatever the way is, Oda will come up with SOMETHING.
And honestly, the storm move was actually playing parallel to the villian. For example, pretty much every unique move used in an arc was based on the situation. For example, The Gears were based on Airbrakes/gears in old-style trains, the Golden moves were based on the "City of Gold" everyone was seeking, Storm was based on "making it rain", Finger net and pinwheel are obvious, and so on and so forth.
Although, I can't really picture how Gomu Gomu no Jet Fireworks would work.
Agreed!!! It is always one of those things that will just happen.^^^
I just hate to see strong and talented characters lose like that. Especially Crocodile.
their are some excuses though, It is called Scooter, Author help, cheating, or like hurry up and kill this character because we made him to powerful…..
Gomu Gomu no Fireworks has to be one of my top 5 favorite attacks.
Take the Crocodile fight for instance I still question Luffy's so called victory.
Luffy's goal in that arc was not to beat Crocodile in one punch, he came to save the kingdom and make crocodile fall; yes he did lose twice against Crocodile, but he finally got him down, all because of his will.
The point was that he beat Croc in the end. That's all that matters.
Hello everyone it's my first post and my first thread so please be cool with me if i am wrong and if i make mistake ( i'm french). I don't rememder a thread about this so i will try:
I think blackbeard can't be a shichibukai because he doesn't look like or have a name of a animal. We have got Crocodile, the bear guy with his bible, doflamingo who looks like a flamingo (obvious i know), mihawk and jinbei form the mermaid island. I may be wrong but i think it might be possible.
So what do you think and if you think the same what could be the other shichibukay 's animal particularity.
If this thread has been already made i am sorry again.
Thats a kind of silly way to count him out.
Yeah, and I never heard of a animal with a name similar to "Jembai". Even if a merman.
hmm, i dont see why blackbeard cant be a shichibukai.but then again, it might not happen, since about every time we guess something it turns out completley wrong.Maybe oda visits this forum and once he sees our predictons, he does his story a whole nother way.ANSWER ME IF YOUR HERE ODA!!!!!!
Yeah, and I never heard of a animal with a name similar to "Jembai". Even if a merman.
"Jinbei" is the Japanese word for a whale shark.
Oh, well then I guess I understand the logic. I doubt Blackbeard would ever make it anyways.
Blackbeard will become a Shichibukai, for the simple fact that he just wasted Whitebeards second division captain.
Yuppers Jinbei
But I don't think that necessarily means that there is a requirement for Shichibukai to have animal names. I think it's just an artistic coincidence.
Also, it's highly possible that Blackbeard won't become shichibukai, but I doubt that will be the reason.
bah, darn code
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
Blackbeard will become a Shichibukai, for the simple fact that he just wasted Whitebeards second division captain.
Pure speculation.
And the fact that Blackbeard doesn't have an animal name doesn't neccesarily mean he won't become a Shichibukai. For all we know, they could have been given animal names when they became members of Shichibukai.
There´s also the slight possibility that they are all using nicknames. Mihawk for instance clearly has "Hawkeyes" for nickname. And I really doubt that somebody would call his child "Sir Crocodile". Donquixote Doflamingo and Bartholomew Kuma however seem again plausible for names. Well anyways, I wouldn´t rule out the possibilty. The Three Admirals also have a mix between animal names and colors for titles though they have completely different names.
Otherwise there´s also the possibility that when Teach becomes a Shichibukai lots of stuff will change because the WG has to keep the balance intact. They didn´t find a replacement for Crocodile yet. If another Shichibukai falls before the position is filled then the balance clearly doesn´t keep intact. Perhaps the WG will have to not even let Teach but also someone from his crew take the position of Shichibukai to keep the balance intact. And everybody from the Blackbeard Pirates has a nickname too. Blackbeard, Champion, Supersonic and Grim Reaper are not Teach´s, Burgess´, Auger´s and Q´s real names.
I seriously doubt that the WG will say "no, we´re not ok with these nicknames/titles cause they´re not animal themed, we don´t want you under these conditions!" if more then one Shichibukai need to be replaced.
Unlikely scenario I know, but a possibility.
At least i've tried but if blackbeard became a shichibukai with a animal name i wonder what could it be
Shichiboukai Animal Party! HUZZAH!!
I thought of that hours ago. Crocodile, Flamingo, Bear, Hawk, and Jinbei (?) (Dunno. It's Jimbei in German) the Fishman.
There is a reason why those guys all have animal names.
But I think Teach doesn't think of it.
Blackbeard: "OH SHIZZ! CAN'T BECOME A SHICHIBOUKAI!!"
Laffite: "Forget those mo'fo' animal-names."
Blackbeard: "Ok, lol."
Pure speculation.
And the fact that Blackbeard doesn't have an animal name doesn't neccesarily mean he won't become a Shichibukai. For all we know, they could have been given animal names when they became members of Shichibukai.
Speculation? The guy just dumped "Fire Fist" Ace. Not too mention that Blackbeard already sent Lafitte to petition a spot for him in the ranks.
i never thought of this :|
i think its a pretty good theory altho it prolly not a reason.
I think he can't be let in because he doesn't fit the style standards.
Mihawk: Pimp
Doflamingo: Pimp Squared
Kuma: At least well-groomed.
They could never call a Shichabukai meeting without BB making someone complain about his smell or appearance.
I think it's not so much whether or not Blackbeard becomes a Shichibukai but the fact that he's pursuing the government for the position that is more important, especially storywise. He's out to show the World Government that he's interested in working for them, even if it is for his own selfish reasons.
if they gave blackbeard a nickname i think it would be lion.
maybe it can be snake eater but i not sure…
OOP but..
smurfx is your sig a bleach shinigami version of one piece?
anyway I think what the OP is saying is that since Blackbeard doesn't have an animal name, it may be a hint from Oda that he will not be successful in becoming a shichibukai. I'm not saying that Shichibukais must have animal names, but sometimes authors throw in this kinda thing to play around with readers.
Though, actually i still think that BB would become a shichibukai anyway. He'll probably gain an animal nickname after he joins, seeing as how all the WG bigshots are associated with animals while the yonkou are associated with colourful hair.
Shichibukai: animals
Yonkou: colours
Marine Admirals: Coloured animals.
Dracule Mihawk - Hawk
Jinbei - Whale Shark
Sir Crocodile - Crocodile
Bartholomew Kuma - Kuma (Brown Bear)
Don Quixote Doflamingo- Flamingo
Marshall D. Teach (Blackbeard)? - Black Bear?
Whith all that body hair he looks like a bear to me…
PD: Excuse my poor english.
and the newest ((spoiler))
CosmicDebris
Yuppers JinbeiBut I don't think that necessarily means that there is a requirement for Shichibukai to have animal names. I think it's just an artistic coincidence.
Also, it's highly possible that Blackbeard won't become shichibukai, but I doubt that will be the reason.
nice to see jinbei …love the reflection in the water
Anyway they all have animals in their names cause oda likes animals(like in the covers of the chapters we see)
I dont think that BB will really become a shichibukai now...cause oda mentioned with DonFlamingo and with shanks already that the new era will come...so why should the three power balance become again equal..?? when luffy beat another shichibukai(spoiler guy)( and than jinbei...so it looks like) the door is open for the new era how DonFlamingo described it and that includes some actions of dragon....also the yonkou(WB for sure ) will be involved when BB want to connect with the WG(bad system with a bad guy----perfekt)
So the WG come under pressure and so we will get some more infos about the forbidden 100years of history...
So the balance will be out of control and so in the new world the new era will start....that will be the showdown and all strings becoming one:happy:
I mean oda wanted such an ephic story or why should he than mention something like the WG or something about the new era....:blink:
^Naughty, the chapter scanalations are not out yet. 
I think BB's nose reminds me of a crow. or a Vulture.
