I doubt it extends to mythical realms… There are lots and lots of animals on this planet for Oda to use, why go down that path?
Another one - scorpion fruit. Ouch!
I doubt it extends to mythical realms… There are lots and lots of animals on this planet for Oda to use, why go down that path?
Another one - scorpion fruit. Ouch!
Picture this, a preist ate a fruit (don't think about it muchm you'll hurt your head) and got- Wait for it- The praying mantis fruit! He'd have super kick-ass action and could prey… Superly?
Stupid idea, but a praying mantis fruit would be pretty cool.
I doubt it extends to mythical realms… There are lots and lots of animals on this planet for Oda to use, why go down that path?
Another one - scorpion fruit. Ouch!
That's too much towards the comic heroes stuff.
Spiderman would kickass though.
This a dumb post that got bumped. Yeah DF will get people new powers that will in all cases make them stronger, but give them one weakness of no being able to swim on a world that 95% water.
DF = Gambit
So why exactly did you bump the post? =S
and how do you figure the OP world is 95% water? =S
What about Pell's Zoan? He could fly at the speed of light.
But Chaka's was useless tho =/
A shark fruit would make you immune to diseases.
wouldn't that be useful
I still think that a Tape-Worm Zoan would be sweet. You could like, be a tape-worm the size of a tremor…
EDIT: Wupps, I forgot it's called a "graboid" xD
@Lobster:
But Chaka's was useless tho =/
Wow, this thread is back? Well, let me repeat what I apparently said a dozen times in the first page of this thread: Jackel Chaka would kick normal chaka's ass. What's great about zoans is that it makes the user, depending on his or her animal, literally a beast. Yep, you can kick a lot of ass with this type of fruit assuming that you weren't a weakling already. Look how Luffy was near powerless against Leopard Lucci without his Gear 2.
And I'm done, forever, unless something stupid happens.
sea-based zoan will not exist cause in OP their are fishman and mermaids…also a sea-based-zoan must in his animal-form live in the sea...where the user will die cause he can`t swim:getlost:
komodo dragon zoan made me think of a gila monster zoan. or a horny toad zoan… ill bet well see an aquatic zoan eventually ,probly on a "dumb" character, like gedatsu...(hell probly jump in the water and have to be saved)... for some reason im thinking a seal man, or an otter man
@mrpriest:
First of all, like one said, you can not compare zoans to lugia like you can't compare pharmecia to lugia, lugia is godly, even Eneru could beat luffy (you have lightning speed, why not use it!?)
second, it all comes down to the user of the fruit, every fruit has it's advantage weather you see it as soon as you eat the fruit or you have to train/think hard and come up with strategys, although unless your a human, the human human fruit would clearly be a waste =/
By the way, this is kinda off topic but I didn't want to create a topic for a small question - Robin can't grow anything other than her own flesh right? so if she uses her fruit to her fullest (atleast the most noticeable fullest form of it) she could grow entire clones of herself right? but wouldn't they come out naked? that would be interesting to see what Oda comes up with for her improvement of abilitys… >.>
What the fuck is lugia? A pokemon, I think. Is pharmecia, pharmacy in Spanish or something?
Also doesn't the Hana Hana no mi, only let you grow parts of your body? I might be wrong, so please correct me if so.
By the way, this is kinda off topic but I didn't want to create a topic for a small question - Robin can't grow anything other than her own flesh right? so if she uses her fruit to her fullest (atleast the most noticeable fullest form of it) she could grow entire clones of herself right? but wouldn't they come out naked? that would be interesting to see what Oda comes up with for her improvement of abilitys… >.>
she has the hana-hana no mie….copy-copy no mie is something different..:getlost:
i`d like to see a spider-fruit...only zoan (maybe a scorpian also) which will be interesting for my taste
@Don:
she has the hana-hana no mie….copy-copy no mie is something different..:getlost:
i`d like to see a spider-fruit...only zoan (maybe a scorpian also) which will be interesting for my taste
didnt Mr 2 eat the copy DF? and didnt that only allow him to change his apearance?
didnt Mr 2 eat the copy DF? and didnt that only allow him to change his apearance?
yeah right….than the holo-holo fruit will fit better
what? peronas? but she didnt make any clones either? =S
I always use to think that Whitebeard had a Tiger Zoan, but after the hole meeting with Shanks, that one is out the window.
I always use to think that Whitebeard had a Tiger Zoan, but after the hole meeting with Shanks, that one is out the window.
Why? They just crossed swords. It is too early to take any conclusions.
As for the main topic: Zoan makes the user more powerful. It is the "Super Sayan Fruit": you transform into a better form. Luffy found a way to duplicate this effect with Gear 2, so we may compare Zoan to a "Gear 2 Form". Luffy is just stronger than most Zoans, but remember that he could keep up with human Lucci, and needed Gear 2 to fight Zoan Lucci.
If someone like Sanji or Zoro were to get a Zoan, you can bet they would become even stronger in their half-forms.
Why? They just crossed swords. It is too early to take any conclusions.
Seeing how pissed Whitebeard was at Shanks, he would have transformed & then attack Shanks at his strongest, but he pulled out that spear thing & attacked. I think that is good enough reason why to let go of that Idea.
I don't think Whitebeard would consider anyone a real threat until such person were to survive his most basic attacks. Which character in OP goes using his best abilities since the start of the fight?
I want to see Seaking Seaking no mi.
One attack: Swell up to full-seaking size, crush foe, sit there blinking comically.
I don't think Whitebeard would consider anyone a real threat until such person were to survive his most basic attacks. Which character in OP goes using his best abilities since the start of the fight?
But you have to include that Shanks was pissing off Whitebeard to the max. Shanks is a threat, Whitebeard & his Crew know this. Using your logic, If Whitebeard had a DF he would have used one of its weak abilites to attack Shanks, but he didn't, Whitebeard used that spear thing. Thats the reason why I think I can let go of that Idea.
what? peronas? but she didnt make any clones either? =S
she has the Horo Horo no Mi…it`s the ghost-ghost-fruit ....and she could do just one "clone"...nevermind, a DF to produce hole clones of yourself who could at least be touched are from the clone-clone no mie:happy:
I think a Zoan of a flying animal is much worth, like Tori Tori no Mi.
Zoan DF > no DF
but all other DFs > Zoan DF
simple as that
cant belive anyone would question the use of getting animal senses,heightend speed,strength endurance thicker skin, animal specific abilities such as flying or digging, hell id love to get me one of those id take Falcon,Bison or Wolf over Bara bara or gomu gomu anyday.
also Jinbei the way i read it the thing with shanks and WB was pretty much set up to showcase that theyre two dangerous men without giving away to much of how they fight as to keep the mysteriousness intact. so i wouldnt rule out any of them having a DF.
Didn't we already know that when Garp told us about Shanks & Whitebeard.
Yeah but we hadn't SEEN that. Thats the difference.
To call zoans weak is going a bit to far. I'm not even sure if they're the weakest of the fruits. Devil Fruits have always been dependant of the user not the fruit. I don't think we've been shown a zoan with one specific weakness yet. While logias do. And how can you tell if Chaka had a useless ability? Anything will seem useless if you don't know the weakness of a logia user that you're fighting. Also I haven't heard mention of #4's weapon. I mean it's useless by itself but just having a cannon that could think and move by itself was what made #4 a threat. I think that zoans have a bit of a bad reputation so far because all the zoans we've seen have just been for flying, weapons, and normal strength, speed, sense, etc. boosts. We haven't seen a really unique ability that has come from the form of an animal. I mean Kaku sort of did with his nose, but that's just the tip of the potential I think. Also the move that almost killed Luffy would of been a miss if Lucci didn't catch Luffy with his tail. Having a tail seems almost insignificant but it is an extra hand that can catch an enemy off guard in battle. I think that zoans require more training then the others, but with a good fighter like the CP9s and their intelligence they could be on par with logias since they'll probably be better at finding out different weaknesses.
It amazed me how unimpressed the sky island peeps were on Paramecias and Zoans. Or on how much they knew about them.
The major weakness of any paramecia is its "predictablity". Once you've seen Luffy stretch, you know he has the rubber DF you can work out easily ways to beat him. What is a strength is also a weakness with them. Good example is Perona, huge advantages with that nasty weakness of having to hide her body if she uses a certain part of her powers.
With Zoans because they are fighters you've got to work out their fighting style weakness on top of the zoan ability, twice the work… And they can switch to and fro three differnt possible styles connected with each form.
And Logias... Even if you figure out their weakness you still don't have an easy time knocking them down because most of them can at least avoid the inital attack. And then they can craft their ability in many ways to counter that weakness, such as Croc removing moisture out of things. With Enel, he simply acknowledge he couldn't throw lighting at Luffy and tried something else.
Yeah but we hadn't SEEN that. Thats the difference.
Meh, I still don't think Shanks & Whitebeard have DF's, until I see it in the manga.
Meh, I still don't think Shanks & Whitebeard have DF's, until I see it in the manga.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Shanks has not eaten a DF considering the flashback where Buggy ate one.
Though the clash is not enough to rule out either of them eating a DF by itself.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Shanks has not eaten a DF considering the flashback where Buggy ate one.
Yea, Can't forget about how the manga labels Shanks to be swordsman.
? wasnt both daz bone and kaku also refered to as swordsmen even though they had DFs? or what do you mean?
and you cant be a swordsman and still have a DF ? tho i dont remember him ever being labeled as a swordsman.
ffs Gorlom beat me to the punch.
anyhow Shanks has had like ten years during which he may or may not have eaten a df so far we have no idea.
Look at Hawk Eyes, do you guys think he has eaten a DF?
i have no idea, i would prefere it if he didnt and made it to the top without one, but honestly theres no way we can tell the man hasnt done anything serious so far.
if it turned out hes got one id assume it was some kinda of agile zoan, for the extra senses,speed boast and such to improve on his swordsmanship.
Do you guys think Zoro will eat a DF if he got his hands on One? then go back to my last question, then take another look at shanks & think would he eat a DF? I really don't think Shanks has or did.
Do you guys think Zoro will eat a DF if he got his hands on One?
Does it really matter? Just because Zoro wouldn't, doesn't mean others wouldn't. Of course I know what you are trying to say. A true swordsman would rely on themselves and their skills, rather then using a Devil Fruit. Of course not all swordsman are honorable. Even in Bleach where Nnoitra says that fights are supposed to be unfair and fights Ichigo when he is weakened. Some of the strongest swordsmen are probably cheats and ruthless.
Does it really matter? Just because Zoro wouldn't, doesn't mean others wouldn't. Of course I know what you are trying to say. A true swordsman would rely on themselves and their skills, rather then using a Devil Fruit. Of course not all swordsman are honorable.
Take a look at Hawk Eye, Hawkeye. :p If you look back at his fight with Zoro, you can tell Hawk Eye is honorable. Shanks was Hawk Eye's raivl, they had many fights in the past, that even Whitebeard respect's, Shanks falls in the same category as Zoro and Hawk Eye.
Zoro probably wouldnt that much we can venture a guess at since we know a fair amount about Zoro, but since we dont know squat about Shanks views of swordsmanship its kinda impossible to know if he would or would not consider augmenting himself with a DF as cheating, Or if he simple a realist who doesnt give a damn as long as he wins which is kinda likely seeing how they acted in Luffy hometown, they make it perfectly clear that fairness is not something Pirates place in high esteem.
but honestly one of ems gotta have something else going for themselves except swordfighting, or else the final battles are just gonna be a bunch of swordfights and who`d wanna see that
Jinbei: We aren't saying it is likely that Shanks, Mihawk or Zoro has or will eat a DF.
We are just saying that it's not enough to rule it out untill it is somehow stated.
Hell, I wouldn't have thought Sanji wanted to eat a DF untill he got all pissed at Abs.
Zoro probably wouldnt that much we can venture a guess at since we know a fair amount about Zoro, but since we dont know squat about Shanks views of swordsmanship its kinda impossible to know if he would or would not consider augmenting himself with a DF as cheating, Or if he simple a realist who doesnt give a damn as long as he wins which is kinda likely seeing how they acted in Luffy hometown, they make it perfectly clear that fairness is not something Pirates place in high esteem.
Shanks don't seem like the type of person to eat a DF to me & same goes for Hawk Eye's.
but honestly one of ems gotta have something else going for themselves except swordfighting, or else the final battles are just gonna be a bunch of swordfights and who`d wanna see that
Swordsman are cool, what you smoking? :P
Jinbei: We aren't saying it is likely that Shanks, Mihawk or Zoro has or will eat a DF.
We are just saying that it's not enough to rule it out untill it is somehow stated.Hell, I wouldn't have thought Sanji wanted to eat a DF untill he got all pissed at Abs.
I just don't see that happening, I don't think real swordsman would eat a DF.
well then were just gonna have to disagree on that cause so far Shanks hasnt exhibited anything other than that hes a party happy drunk who doesnt mind playing dirty and that he cares about his friends and thus nothing that in my opinion would stop him accepting a DF power to his arsenal.
And swordsmen are just fine when used in moderation, i have no problem with one guy in every crew being one but having three of the major players being just plain swordsmen and nothing more is just lame, a little diversity is all im asking for hell id even enjoy it more if they atleast used Devilfruit empowered swords.
I just don't see that happening, I don't think real swordsman would eat a DF.
Blesphamous! Are you saying Brook isn't a real swordsman??
=( I don't like you anymore =(
(Just kidding about the not likeing you part =P)
well then were just gonna have to disagree on that cause so far Shanks hasnt exhibited anything other than that he doesnt mind playing dirty and that he cares about his friends and thus nothing that in my opinion would stop him accepting a DF power to his arsenal.
Shanks dueling Hawk Eye's prove that Shanks is not as dirty as some may think.
And swordsmen are just fine when used in moderation, i have no problem with one guy in every crew being one but having three of the major players being just plain swordsmen and nothing more is just lame, a little diversity is all im asking for hell id even enjoy it more if they atleast used Devilfruit empowered swords.
Shanks & Hawk Eye's are really the only strong swordsman we have seen? there are only 2, thir is many DF guys out there tho. :P
Blesphamous! Are you saying Brook isn't a real swordsman??
=( I don't like you anymore =(
(Just kidding about the not likeing you part =P)
You never really like me to began with anyway. :P
Ooooh nicely dodged… I like you alot more already ^^
=P
But for your question, whats Brooks place on the SH crew?
Musician.. So?
Zoro isnt the official swordsman afaik, he's the first mate. Beeing a cook doesn't make Sanji any less of an martial artist. Beeing a captain doesn't make Luffy any less of a brawler.
Didn't Brook say he was in some army squad or something and praised for his 3 arrow notch strike?
Musician..
Thanks for playing. :P
Zoro isnt the official swordsman afaik, he's the first mate. Beeing a cook doesn't make Sanji any less of an martial artist. Beeing a captain doesn't make Luffy any less of a brawler.
Zoro is the 1st mate, the offical swordsman, of the crew.