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Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney
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I’m getting curious about Kuma’s ultimate fate guys. REALLY curious.
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Why is Drake here? It's to reference Drake's scenes in Sabaody. Back then, it showed him having knowledge of Pacifistas and Vegapunk's creations. Kizaru also reckognized him and mentioned him being privy to government secrets. I recomend checking out Drake's scenes in Chapter 509.
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Saturn's demands are evil, but not unreasonable. Kuma is a pirate, so he must be a sanctioned one. Kuma was a revolutionary, so he had to assure he wouldn't undermine the government. However, I think Saturn is just justifying his true motives: a petty grudge against Kuma and buccaneers.
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Kuma's decision is reasonable as well. Every child must be ready to one day bury their parents. But no parent is ever ready to bury their own children.
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Bestest Jolly Roger, no competition.
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Kizaru befriended those he would one day need to kill. Many don't comprehend him, but he's a marine first and foremost, and personal connections can't undermine his duty. Kizaru probably believes he can't change the world, but as a marine Kizaru thinks he does more good than evil to it.
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I felt a strange happiness seeing Conney again. Maybe because she represents another people Bonney came to love and care about. So, Bonney's happiness in seeing Conney influenced me.
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From their reactions, it's very clear Crocodile, Jinbe, Doflamingo and Moria had no prior connections to Kuma. But it's very interesting that we didn't see the thoughts of the two Warlords that may have prior connections to him, Mihawk and Hancock. Hiding something, Oda?
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That ending was very unexpected. Without it, I'd say the flashback would end in Ch 1101. However, this hook may mean we still have more events to cover in Kuma's life. Where is this leading to?
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Little curiosities of the chapter: Punk Hazard was a tropical island that ended up becoming a freezing wasteland (on one side). Egghead was a freezing island that Vegapunk terraformed into a tropical paradise.
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Another fun one, similar to the last one mostly either showing or confirming things we already knew/thought to be likely with a lot of interesting/emotional/funny bits in between.
the highlight of this chapter though:
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@cavendishsama said in Chapter 1100: Thank you, Bonney:
Another fun one, similar to the last one mostly either showing or confirming things we already knew/thought to be likely with a lot of interesting/emotional/funny bits in between.
the highlight of this chapter though:
Interesting for Oda to remember such a minor character like that.
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What could Kuma being near Windmill Village mean? We know the village is fine. We know Dadan's gang is fine. We know Luffy never met Kuma until Sabaody.
What's Kuma's mission? The government would have no way to know about Luffy having the Gomu fruit yet.
I think Kuma being near Windmill is just to indicate his overall vicinity. And a way for a landmark Chapter like 1100 to have Luffy in it in some shape. I feel this may be setting up a Kuma vs Dragon fight instead. But how? And why?
I think Kuma will be sent to deal with a revolution nearby. And that will put him in conflict with Belo Betty. It will then be revealed that Dragon was nearby, maybe watching over Luffy in secret. Dragon intervenes and fights Kuma so the Revolutionaries can escape.
I find it a possibility because seeing Kuma fighting someone he admires would bring the weight of his decisions. A fallout between friends. But it's also a way to showcase Dragon, as well as a way for Dragon to learn Kuma's decision and Kuma to learn about Luffy.
We know that Kuma knew about Luffy before even Ivankov. I can totally see Kuma revealing he did everything for Bonney and the price he has to pay, and then Dragon saying he understands, because he also chose to never meet his son as well to protect the child.
I think that simple confrontation could bring a lot to the table: we see Dragon in action (finally), we feel the weight of Kuma's choice, we see friends fighting, we get Dragon's perspective. It could be a fit final event before the story flash-forwards to the present.
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I'm wondering if that's Don Krieg's ship blowing up in the background of Mihawk's cameo.
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@Cyan-D-Funk No, we are still between 1 and 2 years before Luffy sets out in his adventure.
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
@Cyan-D-Funk No, we are still between 1 and 2 years before Luffy sets out in his adventure.
Yeah, Luffy would be 15 1/2 at this point.
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So it turns out that Kuma might have been the newbie of the Warlords before Luffy went to sea:
~20 years ago: Crocodile
13 years ago: Hancock
~12 years ago: Moria
11 years ago: Jinbe
10 years ago: Doflamingo
3 1/2 years ago: Kuma
I'm not sure when Mihawk became a Warlord.
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The VIZ translation made me understand the timeline much better. So: at some point, before Kuma is fully turned into a machine, Bonney escapes the government's watch and forms a pirate crew. Presumably to search for her dad, or just because she turned 10 and it was time to see the world. This is how she ends up in Sabaody and why she is a supernova - they gave her a high bounty with the hope of catching her swiftly!
This explains Akainu's comment: "When I heard that you had fled the government, a chill went down my spine". They had lost their leverage against Kuma before the operation was fully completed! Then Bonney is free again since Kuma fully became a cyborg. A bit weird that they let her go even though the newly-cyborg Kuma was just guarding the Sunny - I guess they either trusted Vegapunk, or Kuma trying to kill Ivankov was deemed enough.
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@SirCaesar said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
The VIZ translation made me understand the timeline much better. So: at some point, before Kuma is fully turned into a machine, Bonney escapes the government's watch and forms a pirate crew. Presumably to search for her dad, or just because she turned 10 and it was time to see the world. This is how she ends up in Sabaody and why she is a supernova - they gave her a high bounty with the hope of catching her swiftly!
This explains Akainu's comment: "When I heard that you had fled the government, a chill went down my spine". They had lost their leverage against Kuma before the operation was fully completed! Then Bonney is free again since Kuma fully became a cyborg. A bit weird that they let her go even though the newly-cyborg Kuma was just guarding the Sunny - I guess they either trusted Vegapunk, or Kuma trying to kill Ivankov was deemed enough.
And could imply that Kuma didn’t know Bonney had left, and so thus prob didn’t see her at Sabaody.
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We have yet to see Kuma expel someone else's memory but his own, right? I'm not sure how that even works for him... But i wonder if turns out he met Luffy and expelled that memory from him.
I'm more interested in Kuma meeting Woop Slap or the Goa king for potential revelations.
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Something I just realized, while watching a video and seeing the panel where Kuma and Doflamingo are first introduced.
I love how in restrospect, Oda was introducing, in the same panel, both one of the most horrible people in his entire cast, and one that might be the biggest saint. I'm looking at the image now and getting such a weird type of cognitive dissonance from it, because my brain wants to both register appreciation for how Kuma is such a great guy and disgust at Doflamingo for well, everything.
And back then, those characters were so mysterious and whatever impressions we had of them were completely different than what we have now, because they developed SO much from then, and in such opposite directions. Yeah Dofla looked like a dick, but we couldn't guess just how bad he was, and Kuma was a complete curveball.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
And could imply that Kuma didn’t know Bonney had left, and so thus prob didn’t see her at Sabaody.
I think Kuma knew she escaped, and that's why Kuma didn't follow through his orders in Thriller Bark and helped Luffy escape in Sabaody: because the government couldn't retaliate on Bonney.
However, Kuma probably avoided contact with her on purpose, and he also didn't try to run away because once he was made mindless the government would leave Bonney alone. A final sacrifice for his daughter's freedom.
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Also on this chapter, another page which I think is very symbolic is the one that shows the characters (Kuma, Bonney, Kizaru, Sentomaru and Vegapunk) dancing and partying.
Because all 5 of them are very tragic people. With the exception of maybe Bonney, they are all people who tried to do good, but ultimately failed to and ended up hurting others. They all liked each other in that scene, and now, at Egghead, are fighting each other. They could have stayed friends and family and stuck together to this day, instead, they are fighting and dying for things they don't even believe in.
And ultimately, it's all the fault of the same entity: the Celestial Dragons. They are the ones who corrupted those people, who drove them to the wrong path and destroyed their lives. And the lesson here, and possibly of this arc, is that at some point, we have to take the CDs down. Because when you live in a totalitarian system, you can't hide from it. You have to destroy it, or it will find you and destroy you.
This arc is doing such a good job at setting up the battle against the World Government tbh.
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With how sidelined the Satellites' existence became in this arc, I hope we circle back to them and see how they were conceived. They are all ~3yo or less, but they all clearly have adult minds.
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Bonney will not wait a full year to depart from the church. She is eventually going to figure out something's wrong with Kuma, and Alpha will look fishier and fishier to her, to the point that this so-called "doctor" might even slip something (or reveal the whole truth cuz why not) about Kuma's deal with the WG. Actually maybe Alpha could plant the idea in Bonney's head that Vegapunk blackmailed Kuma just so he could turn him into a cyborg, and that he held Bonney's cure hostage to get his hands on her dad. Not only this allows Bonney to start growing a misguided bias and seeking revenge against Vegapunk, it also blinds her to the truth as Alpha doesn't need to mention the meddling of the 5 elders or the WG at large.
So yeah, regardless of how exactly it comes to that point, I think Bonney starts her pirating career by destroying 3 CP8 agents. She will suffer a bad defeat at first but when she suddenly realizes that her devil fruit powers can be used on others, as opposed to just on herself, she only needs to turn Alpha and the other agents into limited, defenseless geezers, and it's over for them.
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@access-timeco said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
With how sidelined the Satellites' existence became in this arc, I hope we circle back to them and see how they were conceived. They are all ~3yo or less, but they all clearly have adult minds.
I wrote about that on a different platform, too. The satellites themselves don't need much backstory on paper, but York being one of them makes it almost mandatory that the topic must be explored in this flashback (and Oda already started sowing some seeds regarding that, via Vegapunk's dialogue in chapter 1100, it's not just a cute nod or throwback like Crocodile's remark about the rainship). Might as well go there since it seems like the flashback isn't ending anytime soon.
See the second screenshot in the tweet below.
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Hm, i wonder too if it will turn out Saturn is Borsalino's benefactor like how Vegapunk is Sentomaru's... That would explain why he seems content to serve him even against dear friends.
Still, i'd like to see Borsalino's "light" used against Saturn... If not willingly then unwillingly! Hehehe
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@Gear-4-Sauce said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
Bonney will not wait a full year to depart from the church. She is eventually going to figure out something's wrong with Kuma, and Alpha will look fishier and fishier to her, to the point that this so-called "doctor" might even slip something (or reveal the whole truth cuz why not) about Kuma's deal with the WG. Actually maybe Alpha could plant the idea in Bonney's head that Vegapunk blackmailed Kuma just so he could turn him into a cyborg, and that he held Bonney's cure hostage to get his hands on her dad. Not only this allows Bonney to start growing a misguided bias and seeking revenge against Vegapunk, it also blinds her to the truth as Alpha doesn't need to mention the meddling of the 5 elders or the WG at large.
So yeah, regardless of how exactly it comes to that point, I think Bonney starts her pirating career by destroying 3 CP8 agents. She will suffer a bad defeat at first but when she suddenly realizes that her devil fruit powers can be used on others, as opposed to just on herself, she only needs to turn Alpha and the other agents into limited, defenseless geezers, and it's over for them.
Bonney did seem to hold onto her word that she wouldn't become a pirate until she was 10. It seems possible that she left around the same time Luffy went to sea actually.
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@electricmastro said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
@Gear-4-Sauce said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
Bonney will not wait a full year to depart from the church. She is eventually going to figure out something's wrong with Kuma, and Alpha will look fishier and fishier to her, to the point that this so-called "doctor" might even slip something (or reveal the whole truth cuz why not) about Kuma's deal with the WG. Actually maybe Alpha could plant the idea in Bonney's head that Vegapunk blackmailed Kuma just so he could turn him into a cyborg, and that he held Bonney's cure hostage to get his hands on her dad. Not only this allows Bonney to start growing a misguided bias and seeking revenge against Vegapunk, it also blinds her to the truth as Alpha doesn't need to mention the meddling of the 5 elders or the WG at large.
So yeah, regardless of how exactly it comes to that point, I think Bonney starts her pirating career by destroying 3 CP8 agents. She will suffer a bad defeat at first but when she suddenly realizes that her devil fruit powers can be used on others, as opposed to just on herself, she only needs to turn Alpha and the other agents into limited, defenseless geezers, and it's over for them.
Bonney did seem to hold onto her word that she wouldn't become a pirate until she was 10. It seems possible that she left around the same time Luffy went to sea actually.
She just told Conney "I can be a grown-up if I want!", which she absolutely can. Age is not a strict and binary factor with this character ;)
Between CP8 getting fishier by the day, and her having only one true goal in life which is to see her daddy again and travel with him asap, Bonney won't stop in her tracks just because of a perspective she used to have before new elements came to light.
This Alpha character needs to be dealt with somehow too. Oda has put emphasis on her, and oddly enough, she is nowhere to be seen in either CP9 or CP0, so she was never promoted. Was CP8 one of the units that York locked up in her basement? I can't recall. Either way, Bonney getting an actual fight and a win would be pleasing for her fans. I'm sure many want to see Alpha's ass getting kicked too with the way she taunted Kuma and her gross commentary about children(!)'s lives. She is no different than the celestial dragons treating human lives like game at God Valley.
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@access-timeco said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
With how sidelined the Satellites' existence became in this arc, I hope we circle back to them and see how they were conceived. They are all ~3yo or less, but they all clearly have adult minds.
We know they are machines going by Atlas and Pythagoras. The issue is more about the programming used for their brains(?).
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@SirCaesar said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
The VIZ translation made me understand the timeline much better. So: at some point, before Kuma is fully turned into a machine, Bonney escapes the government's watch and forms a pirate crew. Presumably to search for her dad, or just because she turned 10 and it was time to see the world. This is how she ends up in Sabaody and why she is a supernova - they gave her a high bounty with the hope of catching her swiftly!
whoa, nice catch. In these shuffling events, minor details like that are totally going over my head.
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We know that aside from 100 and 1000, Oda's never really written around milestones, but you still generally find something that feels like a big step on each hundred chapters. While we have a pretty damn good chapter of One Piece this week, I don't think there's anything that really qualifies it as a giant leap forward for the story. Maybe all the classic Warlord cameos are meant to feel like the reward for the big eleven-hundred. Maybe, given that the celebratory colour spread is slated for next issue, the big moment missed by one. Or maybe that's just because of how Jump's scheduling panned out and I'm overthinking the whole thing.
There's an irony in Borsalino, in the opening pages, contrasting the climates of Egghead and Punk Hazard. He thinks Egghead's so much colder, but give it a few years and Punk Hazard will be half frozen over and Egghead will be fully climate controlled.
There's a lot of characterisation on show in this first scene. Vegapunk is painfully naive in failing to check for bugs in his lab, and this still won't teach him not to trust the Government. Borsalino has a laid-back and personable demeanour at a glance, but he'll do his job if he has to. And Kuma. Poor, well-meaning Kuma, loses all sense of perspective where his daughter is concerned. I don't think he heard a single word that wasn't about Bonney, even as Saturn offers him basically the worst terms ever. There's a comparison to be made in Kuma's reaction throughout the scene to Hancock asking Luffy to choose between freeing his friends and getting a boat. That same misdirect on what the initial reaction means and the laser focus on the people who need saving at the expense of all else. Except Luffy's version played out in his favour whereas Kuma... well, we're in a One Piece flashback, so you do the math.
Saturn's character is also front and center here. It's that he's a bastard, all pragmatic and cruel.
I really enjoyed the montage of treatments, slice of life scenes and construction work to show the passage of time here. There's some nice fanservice in seeing the (probable) moment the Vegaclones were conceived, and Vegapunk leveraging more underworld connections that would have to go back to his MADS days, this time with Storage King Umit. It's cool that all the underworld figures from Big Mom's party keep sticking their heads up to connect corners of the world.
There's some wonderfully nostalgic fanservice seeing all the classic Warlords and a few others reacting Kuma being commissioned into their number. Curious that Doflamingo, proclaimed "champion of evil" sees another miscreant in Kuma, buying into the hype completely. Having been involved in World Government info tampering personally, and setting records straight with his crew on the fall of Flevance, you'd think he'd at least acknowledge the possibility of spin on Kuma's story. I wonder if the apparent interest in another outright bad guy in the crew ever lead Doflamingo to reach out to Kuma. It might explain them turning up to the meeting together back when they were both first introduced.
An Ace appearance is always welcome. We knew he was offered a Warlord spot, but I think it's new info that he toppled one before that. This is a little bit of a lesson in taking spin-off material as fully canon, because like, you'd think that event would warrant at least a mention in Ace's novel or its manga adaptation. You know if they'd waited a few years and done those today the authors would be asking Oda for an original design for the beaten Warlord and making the encounter into at least a small scene if not the whole story, and its absence makes those volumes feel all the more secondary in retrospect.
Jinbe noting the growing political power of the Warlords is also a touch I like. We've known about powerful figures abusing the Warlord system for their own schemes almost as long as we've had One Piece, but I get the sense that the first generation legitimately acted as privateers and over time more and more people with things to hide have forced their way in. The group becomes both more dangerous and harder to control.
It is adorable that Kuma uses Bonney's drawing as his jolly roger. No notes, just a great touch. You can really see how thin his commitment to being a marauder is. Also, is that a bear ear on the side of his ship? Maybe we all figured as far back as Sabaody there would be more layers to Kuma, but I doubt anyone expected him to do something that cute, especially with his imposing first impression.
There is a strange current of speculation online that Kuma has been sent to Windmill Village to deal with Luffy or something similar in the last page. Are we not paying enough attention to see that Kuma is already there when the orders come in. Whatever the Government wants (if the orders matter to the story and aren't an excuse for him to namedrop his location) it doesn't seem to have anything to do with our protagonist. But maybe I shouldn't get too high and mighty - getting orders relating to something on the island he just happens to be stopping at for a resupply or whatever is definitely not too much of a coincidence for Oda, so we'll see next week what the deal with all of this is.
Next week, no matter what, we're somewhere in vol 109, and I think we have to start building up to the climax of this flashback. Right now, it feels like there's something missing for the ending, a factor we don't know about yet. Kuma losing his will wasn't a shocking betrayal, it was a deal he walked into willingly. In fact, it feels like we prettymuch know it all - he spends some time as a Warlord, is made fully into a weapon at the time the Pacifistas are first deployed. Maybe he's able to leverage that final request to defend the Sunny because Bonney had already escaped and the Government was wary of him running off with all that tech and became more pliable to his requests (or Vegapunk liked him enough to go behind his bosses' backs). Mission complete, he's made a slave until the Revolutionaries grab him and run, and we're basically up to the present. It would be anticlimactic to just play all that out in fast forward, so I think Oda's going to work some kind of a stinger in there. Probably something to tie into how and why he's awakened to himself and begun rampaging while the Egghead Arc happens.
Looking forward to colour pages after quite a few chapters without, and for a final surprise gut punch to put the cherry on top of one of the series' darkest and most effective flashbacks.
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@MetaMario said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
@SirCaesar said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
The VIZ translation made me understand the timeline much better. So: at some point, before Kuma is fully turned into a machine, Bonney escapes the government's watch and forms a pirate crew. Presumably to search for her dad, or just because she turned 10 and it was time to see the world. This is how she ends up in Sabaody and why she is a supernova - they gave her a high bounty with the hope of catching her swiftly!
whoa, nice catch. In these shuffling events, minor details like that are totally going over my head.
And prob means Bonney never really took time to see the world. At most, she might have visited Fish-Man Island.
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Nice chapter; again nothing wildly unexpected as far as events go, but still a good read. We have yet to witness Kuma's final operation (I could see that as the emotional climax of the flasback) and whatever counter-measures he and Vegapunk may have set up prior to it: his "final order" to protect the Sunny, when he decided to externalise his memories and store them in Egghead, ...Which in turn may hint at who or what guided Bonney to them in the first place, if this is ever going to play a part in the story. Also, need to know how and why Bonney made it to sea, although that particular mystery isn't too thick and the way Gear 4 Sauce paints it works fine by me.
Minor detail that struck me : could the robot serving drinks in the Egghead pizza scene be either a prototype for Shaka or what will later be recycled as his future body? It has the long black hooded coat, not the same design exactly as Shaka's but still the coincidence is there.
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When Bonney escaped and went to Sabaondy Kuma was still conscious. It was there that he saved the crew by separating them. So I expect that in the flashback we might see Kuma in Sabaondy watching Bonney from a distance, in his last days of humanity, not being able to see her in person because that would break his promise. In a few days, during the war, Kuma will be a full cyborg.
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I saw a reddit thread where they made some compelling arguments that Egghead is basically a reverse of Sabaody.
So now Im wondering whether in this arc, we will see a scenario where Luffy gives hope to Kuma when he caused Luffy despair in Sabaody? -
The first time Kuma is shown, it was a meeting about losing Croc to Luffy. Now while Kuma is replacing the 1 Ace defeated, he is also on his way to Windmill Village.
Kuma and Bonney is 1 tandem for this arc, I suppose VP and Kizaru are another. With VP and possibly Kizaru's story coming later, i'm trying to get the timeline right and wonder what will fit where.
- What VP did after leaving Karakuri Island and before MADS
- How did MADS form
- relationship with Clover, Buckingham, Dragon, and Underworld sponsors
- Becoming cool with certain Marines
- some of his findings
- finally making satellites
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I prefer the beginning of this flashback rather than the later storylines. The last couple chapters have been Oda checking out boxes. I really hope that that the ending of this chapter is not asking Kuma to go after Luffy although I feel it probably will be. I’d hate if the story goes that the WG knew about Luffy all along and have been trying to get at him all this time but Luffy have been protected by Dragon and Garp, etc from behind the scenes. I really would hate that storyline.
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I've just now realized that Luffy and Kuma might very well have interacted with each other back in Goa. Kuma just needed to erase Luffy's memory of their meeting. Maybe this is how we get to know Luffy's ultimate dream?
I've also come up with another crackpot theory. What if Kuma's mind was never erased? He's just been faking it? Nobody but Vegapunk could know. It destroys the tragedy but I dunno, it's the kind of twist that Oda sometimes likes to do.
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@SirCaesar I don't think we've ever seen Bonney's bounty poster in full in canon. It would be cool if it was another "only alive" one like Sanji briefly got to tie into this.
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@Captain-M I'm expecting that as well. "Only alive".
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Her pre-timeskip bounty should be "only alive", yes. But I really hope the raise to 320 million was already after Kuma lost his mind (so it would be a usual "Dead or Alive")... I mean, if even her value as a pirate is not her own it will be too much (even if it would make sense given she is a child, as the only female SN I really hope Oda lets her keep something that is not just "because of her father").
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Bonney questions pirates helping people even though Kuma was a pirate who helped people, including her?
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@Deicide said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
But it's very interesting that we didn't see the thoughts of the two Warlords that may have prior connections to him, Mihawk and Hancock.
This makes zero sense to me. If there are any connections planned between those two and Kuma they would be expanded on in his all-encompassing and all-inclusive, not afterwards. This flashback is all about filling gaps and tying things up, not creating brand new gaps.
It's entirely possible (even likely) that their opinions on him are just hidden, or they have none.
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It would have been hilarious if Mihawk went "Oh, that the guy I had tea with a year ago".
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@Rean said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
If there are any connections planned between those two and Kuma they would be expanded on in his all-encompassing and all-inclusive, not afterwards.
So, Kuma visiting Kuraigana last chapter, and later sending Zoro there because he Zoro declared wanting to be the World's Strongest Swordsman in Thriller Bark means nothing?
And Kuma visiting the islands the Straw Hats were sent to, but then deciding to send the main character to an Island in the Calm Belt where men are forbidden and its ruler is the most unreasonable, isolationist and mysterious of the Warlords, means nothing?
No, Oda reveals things when things need to be revealed. After 1100 chapters, his usual method of giving small hints and only making a big revelation when it has the most impact should be well-known. If anything Ch 1099 showed us, is that Kuma didn't send the Straw Hats to random places. He knew Ivankov, Haredas, Heracles, the people of Torino... But Hancock and Mihawk? Why would it be impossible?
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If Kuma investigated the whereabouts of the Nika fruit and learned Luffy ate it, that could explain why he helped the Straw Hats multiple times.
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@Johnny-B-Decent said in Chapter 1100: Thank You, Bonney:
It would have been hilarious if Mihawk went "Oh, that the guy I had tea with a year ago".
Yeah, make me wonder if the Jaya arc was the first time Mihawk and Kuma met.
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