Or is he? :ninja:
The shoes don't fit :ninja:
Or the hair, or the lips…
The "Black Cat" connection did admittedly pop into my head as an intriguing possibility, but the designs are too different. They may share a history, though.
Or is he? :ninja:
The shoes don't fit :ninja:
Or the hair, or the lips…
The "Black Cat" connection did admittedly pop into my head as an intriguing possibility, but the designs are too different. They may share a history, though.
Obviously, Who's Who is the fusion of Gin and Kuro after a freak lab incident in Gaimon's island.
Like, it's so obvious.
I will say, I'm absolutely loving the aesthetic of Onigashima. Every spot we've seen so far is genuinely beautiful, especially this side brothel with the wisteria trees and boardwalks.
I hope the anime keeps the dark/overcast stormy sky and makes everything else really colorful.
If Who's Who doesn't adjust his inexistent glasses in a weird way, he is never gonna be as cool as Kuro. Though I must admit I was reminded of our former black cat and his crew when looking at Who's Who's crew this chapter. Nice throwback, especially since I recently reread that arc.
Pretty fun chapter! Sanji's lusting was at least more varied and original this time, with him being pulled like a magnet into the brothel and coming out as a lost and wandering soul after not finding any women. Chopper locking eyes with Big Mom was great too. Actually, I think Oda has been doing a good job in the comedy department lately. Even the action scenes involving the supernovas in the party have been filled with comedy bits which I have been enjoying. It's one of the better parts of One Piece, it lifts me up with all of these dumb characters who are able to do comedy sketches in the middle of dramatic and serious situations.
I still think Sanji is gearing up with all this extra lust, so it feels refreshing when he lets his inner Okama out
It will turn out the Numbers just represent their height from tallest to shortest. Shorty Number 8.
I'm gonna be harsher on Oda since he's getting quite close to 1000, but not in a mean way or anything. So given that we're now less than 20 chapters to 1000, every chapter should be crucial, I'm gonna take off 1 point since a lot of the stuff in this chapter wasss… flavor more than progress. I liked the flavor, but still. Marco showing up was great, I was hoping he'd come, and his dialogue was good.
I'd have liked a more explosive introduction for the Number(s).
I very much am happy that we're getting Supernova vs Supernova action, I'd imagine 90% of people who saw/read Sabaody wanted them to be rivals. Some allies are cool but the rivalries are getting spotlight now which is fantastic news. Chapter: Without Marco, 7/10, with Marco, 8/10, "close to 1000" factor: goes back down to a 7/10.
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Weevil hates Blackbeard. He is not joining him.
@K.:
Weevil hates Blackbeard. He is not joining him.
He will do what his mama tells him to.
The end scene of his introduction seemed to indicate a deep hate for Blackbeard. He killed his father. I don't think Bakkin can convince Weevil.
Weevil "joining" Blackbeard could very well be the necessary development for him to grow out of his mother and actually start to think by himself.
@K.:
The end scene of his introduction seemed to indicate a deep hate for Blackbeard. He killed his father. I don't think Bakkin can convince Weevil.
And then she instantly told him to shut it and keep going after the Whitebeards.
If Bakkin is convinced to, she could very well tell a story to Weevil to convince him to wait or give up on his revenge.
Weevil "joining" Blackbeard could very well be the necessary development for him to grow out of his mother and actually start to think by himself.
To me, Bakkin is the real threat. I wouldn't be surprised if she also has powers of her own, as well as knowledge of Rocks and the "taboos" (knowledge) he was into. I think Blackbeard will recruit Bakkin, and get Weevil as a bonus.
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the SH pair-up to fight them is decided as X vs. Bakkin, with Weevil being just her "weapon".
I find it more likely Weevil would team up with the rest of the Whitebeard pirates against Blackbeard.
Bakkin can join Blackbeard, but I think she would lose Weevil in the process. Unless she has a way to forcefully manipulate him. I think it is a different reaction from Weevil talking about revenge when they are occupied with something else. Than Weevil's reaction to seeing Blackbeard's face to face.
Do you think the thing Blackbeard is after before the government is Weevil?
@K.:
Do you think the thing Blackbeard is after before the government is Weevil?
I think it's either Weevil or Buggy, because:
Why Buggy? Because he was interested in Buggy and Shanks in the Oden flashback, and he went after Shanks before (the scar on Shanks' face). He may be after their knowledge of Roger's journey.
Why Weevil? Maybe because he's strong, is easily manipulated by his (supposed) mom, and Bakkin is just after treasure. Or, like I said before, maybe he's actually after Bakkin, for her knowledge of the Rocks Pirates activities.
As for how to convince Weevil, he's a total moron. I can totally see him attacking Blackbeard, but being convinced to stop by Bakkin with some story that only a moron would believe.
Blackbeard is the kind of guy to take risks such as this if the prize is high enough.
Right now, I'm leaning towards Blackbeard going after Weevil, because the later is kinda aimless in the setting. His quest has nothing to do with the Straw Hats, and he can't really hold an arc as a main villain, as he's just a direct threat. Making him join the Blackbeards after we have learned of his strength is the perfect way of giving him a big role in the future.
Ugh, I just remembered I want Buggy to join the Onigashima fest too.
I like the interaction between the 4 supernovas, and Apoo still kicking ass, not just one hype chapter.
Chopper is retarded, hundreds of people managed to hide and he just patiently sat on the tank without trying to hide … urgh
Apoo said that defeating Yonko was impossible has no weight because of how badly Yonko pirate had been portrayed.
BMP waited for 2 weeks doing nothing because King was patroling without thinking of some strategies to by pass it. And when they finally climbing again after hearing about the alliance, they get trashed again -_- yeah i get it, Oda want to save them for later but the event that happening is stupid.
Wish I hadn't read the spoilers this time. So why did Marco changed his mind? Is Weevil defeated?
Pretty sure he just put up a "Gone to Wano. Be back in a few days. - Marco" sign.
How it feels to read the last page of 981 AKA: I edited Marco into the King scene from the anime–
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)ow Zoro's gotta knock them off the waterfall at the end of the arc to show he can hang with the first commanders.Jump cover! Nice looking, but plain. Interesting that the dragon in the parasol has Kaido's long shape, but more of Orochi's colours. Probably doesn't mean anything, but it's a thing that's there.
The colour spread has a sick palette with all that neon lighting and lots of little details and bits of English lettering to zoom in on. It's a huge tease that there's still no Jinbei, but Oda will do as he wants. At a glance, I thought Nami was wearing a shirt with a picture of herself on it, which would have been very on brand. Probably not quite that, after a zoom in, but it still tickled me. Luffy's holding a record that says Binks' Sake, which is slightly unfortunate for the English version, which had to swap out "sake" to fit the melody of the line and keep a rhyme scheme going. I always feel bad for them when Oda drops a new romanisation that contradicts a decision from a decade ago that can't be changed now. The official release gets enough flack for every little deviation from what people expect. That said, now that the "Binks' Sake" romanisation that comes up most among fans as been validated (a previous spread used "Binks of Liquor" so we won't call it 100% locked in), I'd be interested to see if anyone has ever suggested a version of that first line that keeps "sake" but also rhymes and sticks to the original melody. "Binks' sake is underway, delivered over ocean spray" or something like that.
Basically everything is made up and the romanisations don't matter.
Moving into the chapter proper, there's a few more Meltan in Kid's arm. I hope the people who make Pokemon teams for fictional characters are paying attention to this. I love that it's Meltan of all Pokemon that's struck such a chord with Oda though.
I really don't know what to make of the Numbers at this point. Haccha has a pretty mundane design compared to the silhouettes, but also we never saw a full set of ten silhouettes and I don't think he matches any of the ones we did see. There's obviously something special about these guys beyond just their size, but we don't have enough information to say what yet. I'm sure there'll be some payoff to Haccha's anticlimax in the future.
Who's Who is shaping up to be the star Tobi Roppo, and I'm 100% on board for it.
I'm going to file away Nami's enthusiasm for infiltrating the pleasure house in my "lesbian headcanon" folder. I don't need to be told it's unrealistic to think Oda would actually go that way, I know it. This is just for me.
The infiltration sequence ends with Chopper and O-Lin reunited. Is Big Mom going to snap back to her old personality? I can see her flip-flopping as a great way to create chaos throughout the battle.
And finally, Cat, Izo and Marco arrive! I've gotta say, I wasn't expecting this so soon. Actually, I'm really struggling to picture the structure of this coming battle. The obvious setup going in was that Luffy and co would rush in half-cocked and end up in a bad spot, then one of the many extra groups with a stake would show up in a grand cavalry charge leading into the final stage. It's a tried, true and very satisfying formula, and with Kid, Jinbei and Marco all acting as possible candidates for the big rescue there was plenty to speculate on. But here we are, things are still going pretty well for the alliance, and the backup crews just keep showing up. First Kid was recruited offscreen and there at the start, then Jinbei just kind of appears before they even land, and now Marco casually makes his entrance. It feels like Oda's put all his cards on the table too soon. Things aren't going to go the obvious attack>tragedy>cavalry charge route, so I'm very interested to see what Oda's got waiting up his sleeve.
It is a little sad that Marco's dialogue implies the Big Mom pirates won't make it into Wano until the battle is either over or mostly over. I hope Perospero puts the effort in to prove him wrong on that point. It'd be a shame to bring them all this way and bar them from getting involved for real.
And no break next week! A small bit of good news in these dark and uncertain times. I'll take all the good I can get at the minute.
Rewatching the anime,in the Sabaody episodes,Kidd is introduced… fighting with Apoo! These two never liked each other
By the way its clear that Weevil will pull a Majin Bu and get rid of Bakkin in some way. He probably wont kill her because Oda is not like Toriyama,but he will separate from her in some way. Remember that Oda says that with mothers you cant have adventure
I'd say both Weevil and Kidd are joining Blackbeard at the end.
I mean, Luffy's been making allies out of thin air all around the NW, Teach would need strong back up as well.
Do you guys think that Oda's drawing and paneling has become too cramped? Like a shit lot of different information and scenario in a same page?
Anyone thinking that Blackbeard could go after Marco's DF instead of Kaido's?
Do you guys think that Oda's drawing and paneling has become too cramped? Like a shit lot of different information and scenario in a same page?
It's the only way he's gonna get the series done before the heat death of the universe.
1. So it's true that Apoo is directing Kaido to the meeting place with Kid and Hawkins.
2. Killer ate Bad Smile Fruit given by Orochi. Seems like he's spirit broken before forced to ate it. Thus make sense that he turn into Kamazou before defeated by Zoro.
3. Kinemon group split into 2 force. So, Sanji is also separated from Nami/Usopp/Chopper?
4. Big Mom Pirates didn't know the existence of official entry port to Wano. They stuck at the waterfall as to waiting chances to climb it.
5. How did Marco heard about Beast-Big Mom Pirates Alliance? supposedly only marines got that info through Drake.
@John:
Anyone thinking that Blackbeard could go after Marco's DF instead of Kaido's?
BB isn't going after anyone's DF.
BB already had his chance at getting Marco's fruit in the payback war. BB isn't kill Marco and sure as hell won't be killing Kaido no matter how strong he's become.
1. So it's true that Apoo is directing Kaido to the meeting place with Kid and Hawkins.
We already knew that since Law interrogated Hawkins, could be even sooner, I can't remember if Kid told anything about it.
2. Killer ate Bad Smile Fruit given by Orochi. Seems like he's spirit broken before forced to ate it. Thus make sense that he turn into Kamazou before defeated by Zoro.
No, his spirit wasn't broken, Orochi used Kid as bait to make Killer work for him. Was said in this chapter.
BB isn't going after anyone's DF.
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What ? Blackbeard and his crew are explicitly on a mission to find and collect as many fruits as possible.
It was one of the things set up waay back in Fishman Island. Plus, you know, Burgess appearing in Dressrosa for a fruit and attacking Luffy inorder to gain his fruit. Which showed, that Teach had taught his top commanders how to acquire a fruit's power after its owner dies.
Plus, one of Blackbeard's most prominent actions in this series have been centered on acquiring a devil fruit.
So yeah, Blackbeard is most definitely going after someone's fruit.
So yeah, Blackbeard is most definitely going after someone's fruit.
Right now he's after something that the Marines are also after.
It's obvious what he's after…
! He's after Alvida, he wants the Sube Sube no Mi… he just wants to be beautiful... :ninja:
So he can't let the Marines catch them.
I just don't get the hype here.
I mean its Marco.
Marco is showing up late, has been barely featured in the arc even in the flashback, has neglible compelling dramatic ties to the showdown compared to everyone else, and is yet probably likely to snag a big fight despite having the personality of a dry loaf of bread.
I know this was set up, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna bang my head on my desk if Marco gets to take out King while Straw Hat crewmembers are positively starved for paneltime. Its been more than 200 chapters since Franky fought Senor Pink and Usopp sniped Sugar for petes sake.
You can pretty much say the same thing for Izou, an SBS curio who gained sentience.
Catviper is OK
@Daz:
I just don't get the hype here.
I mean its Marco.
Marco is showing up late, has been barely featured in the arc even in the flashback, has negligble compelling dramatic ties to the showdown compared to everyone else, and is yet probably likely to snag a big fight despite having the personality of a dry loaf of bread.I know this was set up, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna bang my head on my desk if Marco gets to take out King while Straw Hat crewmembers are positively starved for paneltime. Its been more than 200 chapters since Franky fought Senor Pink and Usopp sniped Sugar for petes sake.
You can pretty much say the same thing for Izou, an SBS curio who gained sentience.
Catviper is OK
Marco appearing in Wano is going to be very similar to the appearance of characters such as Ace/Sabo in previous arcs.
He will deal with some kind of external threat that the SH are not fully prepared to take care of, but he won't take up much screentime.
For example, Ace simply stalled Smoker and that was his major contribution to alabasta. Similarly, Sabo got the fire fruit real quick and stalled Burgess/Fujitora. Those events never really took up much of the screentime.
So I think its going to be ok.
Butters should get as much screen time as possible. I love those old masters helping out the fledgelings scenearios. And even more so when the supreme badass who helps looks like fricking Butters with phoenix claws
@Daz:
I just don't get the hype here.
I mean its Marco.
Marco is showing up late, has been barely featured in the arc even in the flashback, has negligble compelling dramatic ties to the showdown compared to everyone else, and is yet probably likely to snag a big fight despite having the personality of a dry loaf of bread.I know this was set up, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna bang my head on my desk if Marco gets to take out King while Straw Hat crewmembers are positively starved for paneltime. Its been more than 200 chapters since Franky fought Senor Pink and Usopp sniped Sugar for petes sake.
You can pretty much say the same thing for Izou, an SBS curio who gained sentience.
Catviper is OK
WB and Oden were "brothers"
Marco and Odenwere part of the same crew for several years. If that isn't enough of a reason for him and any member of WB's crew to be there…....
WB and Oden were "brothers"
Marco and Odenwere part of the same crew for several years. If that isn't enough of a reason for him and any member of WB's crew to be there…....
I'm not saying it doesn't ""make sense"" for Marco to be there, I'm saying that Oda spent close to zero time establishing any sort of resonant bond between Marco and Oden, or even just showcasing Marco. Same goes for Izou who is barely a character; the best they have going for them is coasting off other characters more established bonds with Oden.
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Butters should get as much screen time as possible. I love those old masters helping out the fledgelings scenearios. And even more so when the supreme badass who helps looks like fricking Butters with phoenix claws
I don't dispute that Phoenix powers are cool, or that the Butters comparison is mildly amusing, its just…I can't think of a single moment that made me give a shit about Marco. He's got plenty of Kewl Feats, but no times where he made me laugh, or had any dramatic meat to him. Maybe I could tolerate him under other circumstances, but here theres a miles-long line of characters fighting for paneltime already.
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Marco appearing in Wano is going to be very similar to the appearance of characters such as Ace/Sabo in previous arcs.
He will deal with some kind of external threat that the SH are not fully prepared to take care of, but he won't take up much screentime.
For example, Ace simply stalled Smoker and that was his major contribution to alabasta. Similarly, Sabo got the fire fruit real quick and stalled Burgess/Fujitora. Those events never really took up much of the screentime.
So I think its going to be ok.
I get what you're saying but Ace at least had the good graces to take off within the first 10 chapters of the Alabasta arc, and theres no Fujitora equivalent here; theres team Kaidou, and team anti-Kaidou. Marco is literally showing up to help take out the Big Bads forces.
And while there may materialize some sort of distraction that'll keep him busy, my subjective view was that the whole Fujitora/Sabo/Burgess plate spinning exercise was one of the most maddening parts of Dressrosa, so I can't say that scenario appeals to me either, but at least it'd keep Marco out of the spotlight I guess.
I didn't want to disappoint people who were expecting Jinbe in the color spread. Now i assume he keeps it for the end of arc party and Jinbe number chapter
Maybe for chapter 1000. But Oda will probably do more that just the strawhats for that chapter
Chopper is making another of his Big Mum faces. It's almost a clone of the previous ones. Since Nami has left, there is only Him and Usopp in the tank. 2 people who were not involve to much with her on Whole Cake island
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Which OS are you using because it is still the same for me ?
WB and Oden were "brothers"
Marco and Odenwere part of the same crew for several years. If that isn't enough of a reason for him and any member of WB's crew to be there…....
Better two decades late than never i suppose.
@Daz:
I don't dispute that Phoenix powers are cool, or that the Butters comparison is mildly amusing, its just…I can't think of a single moment that made me give a shit about Marco. He's got plenty of Kewl Feats, but no times where he made me laugh, or had any dramatic meat to him. Maybe I could tolerate him under other circumstances, but here theres a miles-long line of characters fighting for paneltime already.
That part where he told the whole marineford that they ought to know what happens to people who lay a hand on their family always resonated with me. But yeah i guess he didn't have too many big moments after that
Daz' none hype description about Marco pretty much mirrored my feelings about Law when he showed up in Punk Hazard.
But compared to Law back then, I'm glad to see Marco now. Looking forward to a Doctor, Doctor, Doctor introduction with Chopper and Law when the battle has ended :D
I always felt like Marco was only hype because #1 of WBP, so it was a non-personal love that would go for any character who had the same title. But his behavior on Oden's flashback really made me like him (by behavior I mean his 2 lines, yes. But I'm weak for pirates who have legit fun). I couldn't care less about him before, but after that flashback seeing him back put a smile on my face.
Also those glasses make him look impossibly cool.
But still I hope he ain't taking no 1x1 away from the SH… just find whatever excuse to show his full hybrid form, Oda.
Marco scores pretty highly on the Could Be From Any Other Anime Character Tropiness Scale for me, alongside Law, Kidd, Sabo and Rayleigh, the latter two whom I really hope stays away from this arc
Now if Brownbeard had shown up? …That'd still be too many dang characters, but I'd be happy to see him nonetheless
I would have preferred Jozu as the WB representative. Brilliant Punking people and throwing meteor-sized items around was a lot more entertaining than Marco acting like an annoying fly 24/7 during the war.
A Phoenix Zoan has an interesting visual, but I honestly don't want to see him fight.
But as it stands he will be guarding the waterfall anyway, just like King during the past 2 weeks /criesinsmoothie
BB isn't going after anyone's DF.
BB already had his chance at getting Marco's fruit in the payback war. BB isn't kill Marco and sure as hell won't be killing Kaido no matter how strong he's become.
So you don't subscriber to the theory about BB going after the best Zoan (after getting the best logia and the best paramecia)?
@John:
So you don't subscriber to the theory about BB going after the best Zoan (after getting the best logia and the best paramecia)?
God no.
We're entering the end game now as far as One Piece goes. Shit is hitting the fan in a big way.
BB is powerful enough with 2 OP broken DF powers, and he's had 2 full years to fully master both DF abilities so the BB of 2 years ago is nothing compared to the current BB now…
What ? Blackbeard and his crew are explicitly on a mission to find and collect as many fruits as possible.
It was one of the things set up waay back in Fishman Island. Plus, you know, Burgess appearing in Dressrosa for a fruit and attacking Luffy inorder to gain his fruit. Which showed, that Teach had taught his top commanders how to acquire a fruit's power after its owner dies.
Plus, one of Blackbeard's most prominent actions in this series have been centered on acquiring a devil fruit.
So yeah, Blackbeard is most definitely going after someone's fruit.
I do think he's after one last particular devil fruit, although probably one that has yet to be claimed – mythical zoan fruit Shinigami/Enma
Blackbeard gonna gain the ability to summon and manipulate the spirits of the dead.
@Ghidorah:
I do think he's after one last particular devil fruit, although probably one that has yet to be claimed – mythical zoan fruit Shinigami/Enma
Blackbeard gonna gain the ability to summon and manipulate the spirits of the dead.
Is that a fruit Oda ever mentioned?
We already knew that since Law interrogated Hawkins, could be even sooner, I can't remember if Kid told anything about
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oops.. i missed that.
No, his spirit wasn't broken, Orochi used Kid as bait to make Killer work for him. Was said in this chapter.
if his spirit not broken, he won't be turn into Orochi dog as Kamazou
if his spirit not broken, he won't be turn into Orochi dog as Kamazou
Obviously Killer was doing that to keep his captain alive.
@John:
Is that a fruit Oda ever mentioned?
Nah. Just a calculated theory of mine.
Makes me wonder, what will be Izou's role at the end of this. will he stay a retainer or make a samurai pirate crew.
Izou is an experienced sailor, with him and Pedro bringing back the Nox, we'll have a Samurai and a Mink pirate crew to add in the fleet in the future.
Marco dying makes perfect sense since his fruit could eventually land on a much more interesting character.