Its funny the SBS theory got mentioned here, Ive been waiting for the next nakama thread to be unlocked so I could mention that japanese fans speculate Tama got Tsuku Tsuku (29,29) no mi, “to be attached”, ive mentioned it to my japanese friend who said its not a perfect DF name for Tamas powers, but it works.
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I agree, but think you have to make room for Usopp at Dressrosa (and a little love for Chopper's role in Zou). Definitely hope that Wano pivots to focus more on the crew, or whatever the next arc is. Maybe Jinbe's joining will be the catalyst.
I like to think so, and let's hope he'll join for good this time. :ninja:
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Kuma's fruit also fits the pattern if I'm not mistaken.
Kuma is supposedly somehow dead, his fruit should be somewhere out there, and the strawhats do need a way to go back from Laugh Tale to Mariejois/Gyojin Island.So there´s the possibility that only the fruit joins, not necessarily a whole new person.
Oh yeah, I just checked, it was KUMA's fruit that was aknowledged for this very same theory, so yup, quite likely to me.
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That was in an official SBS ages ago. Of course Greg's seen it.
I think the fact that Oda drew attention to it means its fair game. I don't know that Oda originally planned to do a weird number gimmick for the crew's powers, but I'd be pretty surprised if after it came to his attention, AND he published it, that he's not been thinking about it. That the numbers add up to 325, San-Ni-Go, is certainly too good to be accident at this point. So I'd be surprised if the last member didn't actually fit that bill at this point. Oda certainly teased it for ages with Kinnemon's fruit fitting the pattern, for instance.
That said, the obvious permutations of 2 and 9 are already out and about, so Oda would have to do something really sneaky for the audience to not catch it instantly. Unless he does another Brook thing where the next person gets asked to join very very quickly after their introduction.
That said, Oda DID publish it and he prefers to surprise readers. But possibly that was just SO far in advance (nearly 10 years ago now) he saw no harm in it.
I could totally see Oda showing us a new member a dozen or so chapters before he revels what his or her powers are, or maybe he thinks most people won't remember a little SBS comment from a decade ago
all I know is now when I see a new character who I think could join, I'll look to see if his or her devil fruit fit the 2.9 theory
Its funny the SBS theory got mentioned here, Ive been waiting for the next nakama thread to be unlocked so I could mention that japanese fans speculate Tama got Tsuku Tsuku (29,29) no mi, “to be attached”, ive mentioned it to my japanese friend who said its not a perfect DF name for Tamas powers, but it works.
I've heard this theory before, I still think she's to young for the crew though
Kuma's fruit also fits the pattern if I'm not mistaken.
Kuma is supposedly somehow dead, his fruit should be somewhere out there, and the strawhats do need a way to go back from Laugh Tale to Mariejois/Gyojin Island.So there´s the possibility that only the fruit joins, not necessarily a whole new person.
Oh yeah, I just checked, it was KUMA's fruit that was aknowledged for this very same theory, so yup, quite likely to me.
Wasn't Kuma dead at Marineford though? He used his power there against Iva didn't he?
also Kuma's ability to take away pain and fatigue would be seriously encroaching on Chopper's doctor status, and would just take away from suspense in arcs
like having a living sensu bean following the crew
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He havent used it post time skip, could be that he only has the laser beams and robotic stuff that still makes him a threat.
Well as long as he cant take the flu out of people, its perfectly fine to me.
However I could only see Usopp possibly eating it, and gives him bunch of amazing feats in dinstance, which is what he has to get better at before fighting off Auger.
Other options would be that a possible next person to join already has it, or will get it after introduction.Every other SH just wouldnt make sense to me to have that DF, and half the crew cant even eat another one.
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He havent used it post time skip, could be that he only has the laser beams and robotic stuff that still makes him a threat.
Well as long as he cant take the flu out of people, its perfectly fine to me.
However I could only see Usopp possibly eating it, and gives him bunch of amazing feats in dinstance, which is what he has to get better at before fighting off Auger.
Other options would be that a possible next person to join already has it, or will get it after introduction.Every other SH just wouldnt make sense to me to have that DF, and half the crew cant even eat another one.
Robby just said a few posts ago how we might meet said member before we learn of there power
Would be cool if Luffy invites someone who always wears gloves and some big event happens where they take them off and BAM!!! They have paws on there hands!!
Okay I'm sorry about that, now I'm just straight up making fan fiction
Edit: also we've still yet to get a Vegapunk arc, so there's def a chance of him making an artificial devil fruit of the paw paw fruit
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Robby just said a few posts ago how we might meet said member before we learn of there power
Which is just another theory..
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Which is just another theory..
Oda likes to surprise his readers and to mess with them. That's not a theory.
If we meet anyone with a 29 fruit at this point, they're instant "next crewmate fodder", so either Oda plays coy with it and doesn't name it immediately or he goes blunt and doesn't hide it at all. There's not much inbetween aside from them getting the fruit mid-arc..
Though, given how he's now very recently passed Absalom's fruit, and made a point of Oden's flashback of showing us two fruits we already know being used by previous characters, it might be he's trying to strongly remind us that fruits reincarnate, since its been a while since Whitebeard and Ace's fruits got passed on.
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As a reader, I don't feel like the crew is anywhere near close to being the crew of a pirate king,
In terms of what?
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It does seem like the Paw-Paw was specifically created to get the SH's asses from Laugh Tale to Gyojin Island, given that they are definitely NOT navigating the whole way back, and Oda dislikes standard powers like just giving someone the Teleportation ability, clearly he went more creative there.
So the Paw-Paw is totally doing the job, and that's for sure to me, even if the fruit doesnt really join the SH's, tho given they are the only ones supposed to reach Laugh Tale(and arguably the BB pirates), there is quite a possibility there that one member of the Strawhat crew is fated to eat it.Or, since the war is going to be world wide, theres also a chance that each SH is sent to different spots to lead a faction each;
Jinbe leads the Fishmen
Zoro the Samurai of Wano
Sanji the Germa army
Usopp the Giants of Elbaf
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In terms of what?
Well, I mean could someone like Franky or Robin actually beat a Yonkou henchmen like Daifuku or Page-One? Much less the Weakling Trio.
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Why don't they just use the paw paw fruit to take Fishman island and push it somewhere else?
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Well, I mean could someone like Franky or Robin actually beat a Yonkou henchmen like Daifuku or Page-One? Much less the Weakling Trio.
I'd say Franky is absolutely at that level and even if one or more of them aren't, they don't have to be physical powerhouses. That was the whole point of the scene at Impel Down between Zoro and Usopp. As long as they're advancing at what makes them valuable to the crew, they're where they need to be. I guess Chopper seems to be the most behind in that sense. It would be neat if he combined his combat abilities with healing at the same time.
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We havent seen General Franky at full might.
Baby 5 and Buffalo didnt scratch it and Franky used his fists with Mr Pink.I hope we get another Franky brawl in Wano, along with a good fight for everyone, especially Robin.
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Pre-timeskip we saw Usopp, Nami defeat the fourht highest ranked Baroque Works henchman alone, Chopper one of Enel four priest, …Not that all straw hats should be a threat to the the likes of Jack, but I hope to see the weakling trio do something in battle other than cleaning fodders soon. Usopp's stuff in Dressrosa was cool but it was extremely situational.
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Pre-timeskip we saw Usopp, Nami defeat the fourht highest ranked Baroque Works henchman alone, Chopper one of Enel four priest, …Not that all straw hats should be a threat to the the likes of Jack, but I hope to see the weakling trio do something in battle other than cleaning fodders soon. Usopp's stuff in Dressrosa was cool but it was extremely situational.
His first feat was, for sure, but what he did the second time represented growth (haki) and a uniquely Usoppian solution the problem of Sugar. I've grown to like it a lot. There were lots of complaints about Pop Greens vs. Usopp's homemade weapons and I agree with them, so it was great to see him craft the perfect weapon at the right time.
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His first feat was, for sure, but what he did the second time represented growth (haki) and a uniquely Usoppian solution the problem of Sugar. I've grown to like it a lot. There were lots of complaints about Pop Greens vs. Usopp's homemade weapons and I agree with them, so it was great to see him craft the perfect weapon at the right time.
Of course it was cool ^^ , but the second time Sugar was 100% focused on Luffy and Law. Not that it takes anything from Usopp's feat, but I'd like to see him perform against an opponent who is aware and attacking.
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Well, I mean could someone like Franky or Robin actually beat a Yonkou henchmen like Daifuku or Page-One? Much less the Weakling Trio.
Buggy was part of Pirate King crew…who was beaten by Luffy literally at the start of his adventure so........
Y'all have a funny idea of what the pirate king is supposed to be compared to how it's been portrayed.
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Buggy was part of Pirate King crew…who was beaten by Luffy literally at the start of his adventure so........
Y'all have a funny idea of what the pirate king is supposed to be compared to how it's been portrayed.
Buggy was also an apprentice. Everyone in the Straw Hats is theoretically supposed to pull their weight.
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But he was still part of the crew. Oda isn't building up Pirate King crew to be filled with monster fighters that can individually take on Shichibukai level characters.
That is what the fans think. Not what Oda has shown thus far.
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If we're talking about how they are at their roles then:
Top Class/Making excellent progress:
Luffy (Captain): Fifth Emperor. On track to Pirate King
Zoro (Swordsman): Currently wields the legendary and dangerous Enma
Sanji (Chef): Made arguably the best cake in the world, based on smell alone.
Nami (Navigator): Always had supernatural weather-sense.
Usopp (Sniper): Sniped Sugar from across Dressrosa
Robin: Can read Poneglyphs
Brook (Musician): World Famous rockstar who fights with music
Franky (Shipwright): Made the Sunny, a ship that could escape and survive an Emperor's territoryCurrently Lacking:
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But he was still part of the crew. Oda isn't building up Pirate King crew to be filled with monster fighters that can individually take on Shichibukai level characters.
That is what the fans think. Not what Oda has shown thus far.
Oda has hardly shown anything from the "Pirate King's" crew. It's just Crocus, Rayleigh, and Gaban. Shanks and Buggy don't count.
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People are too hard on the crew. Yeah. It sucks that they don't get the spotlight as much they did pre-timeskip. They still get plenty though.
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Shanks and Buggy don't count.
Why? They were still part of the crew regardless of their role and position.
And yes, Oda hasn't shown anything from the Pirate King crew so how is anyone even creating some sort of standard that SH's need to hit before they are Pirate King crew?
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Why? They were still part of the crew regardless of their role and position.
And yes, Oda hasn't shown anything from the Pirate King crew so how is anyone even creating some sort of standard that SH's need to hit before they are Pirate King crew?
If Shanks and Buggy count then so does Oden, Toki, Momonosuke, Hiyori, Dogstorm, and Catviper.
Yeah. I just think the crew has to be able match the Blackbeard Pirates by the end of the series.
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Well, I mean could someone like Franky or Robin actually beat a Yonkou henchmen like Daifuku or Page-One? Much less the Weakling Trio.
Daifuku only had a 300,000,000B bounty right? I'd imagine Franky and/or Robin would eventually triumph over Fuku or Page One. Franky would definitely beat the opponent so long as he wasn't trying to be manly and purposely take every shot the enemy threw at him.
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Re: number theories.
Nope. Oda doesn't work that way. Esp. if he brings it to the forefront, he definitely won't do it.
Oda likes to be as unpredictable as humanly possible for his big moments and he has no compunctions about going total Toriyama and going against what people expect if he knows they expect it.
This is why my columns are censored so frequently. Oda doesn't read them before print but his editors do and when they know there's a big point that I hit that might upset him, they'll cut it.
Remind me someday after publication ends to talk about the time I unwittingly got the entire team of assistants in trouble ^_^;
Sorry to be off topic but after the release date on Manga Plus suddenly changed to March 9 (meaning chapter 973 has been pushed back). There has been rumors in the foreign fan communities that Oda has been urgently hospitalized and the manga may need to take a break indefinitely. Maybe Greg can help confirm/deny anything about this?
Everything is fine. The delay is real but it's all good. Nothing terrible or horrible has transpired. I could get more into it but it's not my place. Just don't make much ado about what is nothing to be concerned over.
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Oda likes to surprise his readers and to mess with them. That's not a theory.
If we meet anyone with a 29 fruit at this point, they're instant "next crewmate fodder", so either Oda plays coy with it and doesn't name it immediately or he goes blunt and doesn't hide it at all. There's not much inbetween aside from them getting the fruit mid-arc..
Though, given how he's now very recently passed Absalom's fruit, and made a point of Oden's flashback of showing us two fruits we already know being used by previous characters, it might be he's trying to strongly remind us that fruits reincarnate, since its been a while since Whitebeard and Ace's fruits got passed on.
So do you think it's possible the theory I said where the last crewmember is introduced having gloves on constantly and then eventually revealing that underneath those gloves he/she has the paw paw prints on there hands?
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That does not change the fact that’s basically another break AGAIN! So annoying
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So do you think it's possible the theory I said where the last crewmember is introduced having gloves on constantly and then eventually revealing that underneath those gloves he/she has the paw paw prints on there hands?
I guess? I think Kuma's fruit is a bit broken to give to the crew, even untrained, and if Oda was REALLY going to go there, he never would have put that in SBS.
Oda's clearly thought about the 29 thing enough to tease with it like Kinemon, (and then not actually naming Kinemon's fruit for years) but that he presented it so upfront in SBS makes it really hard to expect him to do it that straightforwadly. I really would say it was just a big coincidence and he wasn't beholden to it if not for the craziness of them adding up to Sun-ni-Go. That's the only thing that makes me think there's any real merit to it and not just Oda playing along because that's a really hard happy accident to arrive at.
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We oftenly dont get to know the name of some fruits until much time later.
Kin'emon is most definitely staying with Shogun Momonosuke to repair Wano and open it to the world.What would be interesting atm, its if Vegapunk finally gets revealed somewhere around this arc, his name its been dropped almost in every arc of the Alliance Saga. I believe he's the one to explain Kaido's origins, the reason Orochi wants him for should be revealed at some point, and we could get a glimpse at the possibilty of him holding the Paw-Paw fruit with him.
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whats the point in getting annoyed? Oda is a real person and he has a real life. Things come up, and after over 20 years of him putting out great content consistently it seems a little rude to be upset that hes unexpectedly delaying a single chapter.
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Why? They were still part of the crew regardless of their role and position.
And yes, Oda hasn't shown anything from the Pirate King crew so how is anyone even creating some sort of standard that SH's need to hit before they are Pirate King crew?
Well, the Pirate King must be able to go toe to toe with the strongest guys as Luffy himself said to Fujitora. It makes sense to expect the crew of said pirate king to stand their ground against underlings of these people. We didn't see much of Roger pirates, yet we also know they rivalled the best crews, like Whitebeard pirates.
Or let's forget about that, we can go back to the first chapter, Luffy vowed to gather crewmates that wouldn't lose to Shanks crew.
Going by how small Luffy's crew is, and seeing how emperors have dozen of strong henchmen, expecting each straw hat to be able to pull their weight is nothing weird, really. It's a natural evolution from instances where even the weaklings would defeat high ranked henchmen from the villain organization. They never were Buggy. -
Oda has a lot more characters to deal with now. The spotlight can't just be on the crew. People need to come to terms with this or they might as well stop reading because they will only get upset.
Just this arc has 6 worst generation pirates besides luffy and zoro. Then their is the usual "arc characters". They need the spotlight too.
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Re: number theories.
Nope. Oda doesn't work that way. Esp. if he brings it to the forefront, he definitely won't do it.
Oda likes to be as unpredictable as humanly possible for his big moments and he has no compunctions about going total Toriyama and going against what people expect if he knows they expect it.
This is why my columns are censored so frequently. Oda doesn't read them before print but his editors do and when they know there's a big point that I hit that might upset him, they'll cut it.
Remind me someday after publication ends to talk about the time I unwittingly got the entire team of assistants in trouble ^_^;
Everything is fine. The delay is real but it's all good. Nothing terrible or horrible has transpired. I could get more into it but it's not my place. Just don't make much ado about what is nothing to be concerned over.
Godammit, Greg. you gotta stop teasing those stories, it's bad for my curiosity.
We can't wait for publication to end. You know we'll all be reading that last chapter on Mars.Did the assistants add a small joke to the background? Did they forget to put something in the background?:ninja:
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Let's be honest, Buggy being as weak as he is almost absurd enough to break the entire power-scaling of the series and Oda only gets away with it because he's such a gag character. This is a guy that actually participated in battles against the Whitebeard pirates and Shiki's crew. You'd think someone that peaked on East Blue level wouldn't even be able to stand next to that Roger vs Whitebeard epic haki clash.
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Yeah. I must not understand "power-scaling" because I simply don't see how Buggy being "weak" breaks anything.
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People think there's less than 4 arcs left, so it's consistent with their thinking. If I thought the series was almost over, i'd be fatigue from new characters sharing focus as well. That's not the case tho. Until they realize there's too much development and plot points left, they'll stay confused by the story they've been reading for 900+ chapters
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You become Pirate King by reaching Laugh Tale.
Luffy only needs one more Road Poneglyph to do so. That won't take a ton of arcs to achieve, and he's got 3 RP's one arc right after another one.Things seem to be getting wrapped.
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Its not the number of arcs. Its how long they are. Let's talk chapters. The fist half of the series was 597 chapters right? The second half will probably be less or more than that but for the sake of argument let's assume it will also be 597 chapters.We are currently 375 chapters in to the second half of the series. That leaves 222 left.
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Yeah. I must not understand "power-scaling" because I simply don't see how Buggy being "weak" breaks anything.
Also, Buggy was Luffy vs Alvida level probably back in Roger's crew and there were not so many pirates back then to fight for your life each and every day. Most of them probably used swords and pistols and few had DF unlike now (this is just a presumption giving that it wasn't the Golden age of piracy yet). And after Roger Pirates disbaned, he settled in East Blue and slouched on his ass all day instead of trainig.
On the other hand, as we saw in MarineFord, most of WB's division commanders that fought there were on par with some Vice-Admirals and other Marine Officers. There were some exceptions as Vista and Marco ofc, but most of them were on Nami-Chopper-Brook level if not even lower. So I'm not having the feeling that the other SH crewmembers are only there for fodder cleanup, but they could stand their own against lets say Doc Q or Laffite from Blackbeard's crew. At least that is how I perciece things.
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I don't think it's about how long the arcs are or chapter count. It's about plot points. Once those are addressed, it's a good way to tell how close we are to the end. Iirc, some have used the PH arc as an example. I think it was about PH originally being 2 islands. If that is all of what was provided, I don't think that's enough evidence for any discussion.
- What were those planned arcs going to be about?
- Did they bring closure to certain plot points?
- Did they open up new points?
If someone could fill in those blanks, that would be cool. I don't have the exact SBS or interview quote for this matter. All I could remember is that PH was 2 islands or something of that nature. Why do the contents of those planned arcs matter? That is because whether new points arose or were closed during those arcs are better indicators than chapter or arc count.
DF and Haki applications are still being addressed. I don't think we'd be learning about it along with the protagonist if the story was so close to the end. Even the massive amount of story points that some have speculated would either not get addressed at all or be rushed, which doesn't go along with these last 4 arcs. WCI arc and the Wano arc have created room for more questioning than answered and created closure for certain points. Not to mention the Zou arc and Reverie event. A whole new character in Im is revealed and we know very little. They just ended the Warlord system due to a new asset from a character we have been getting hints for since forever lol. Anyone following the story knows that 80% of story done comment isn't accurate. The fact that we are still focusing on the allies in each of these arcs is telling. The crew needs more than just themselves to contest certain enemies. The Yonkou and WG are organizations. The crew needs to go through more and gain more allies. Why not give those allies depth?
- Will each SH get an arc for development or will they be squeezed in with each other?
- Will there be anymore SH nakama after Jinbe? I honestly would prefer no one after Brook, but Oda is going for it anyway
- Who is the final antagonist and why is that even a debate if we are so close to the end?
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I don't think it's about how long the arcs are or chapter count. It's about plot points. Once those are addressed, it's a good way to tell how close we are to the end. Iirc, some have used the PH arc as an example. I think it was about PH originally being 2 islands. If that is all of what was provided, I don't think that's enough evidence for any discussion.
- What were those planned arcs going to be about?
- Did they bring closure to certain plot points?
- Did they open up new points?
If someone could fill in those blanks, that would be cool. I don't have the exact SBS or interview quote for this matter. All I could remember is that PH was 2 islands or something of that nature. Why do the contents of those planned arcs matter? That is because whether new points arose or were closed during those arcs are better indicators than chapter or arc count.
DF and Haki applications are still being addressed. I don't think we'd be learning about it along with the protagonist if the story was so close to the end. Even the massive amount of story points that some have speculated would either not get addressed at all or be rushed, which doesn't go along with these last 4 arcs. WCI arc and the Wano arc have created room for more questioning than answered and created closure for certain points. Not to mention the Zou arc and Reverie event. A whole new character in Im is revealed and we know very little. They just ended the Warlord system due to a new asset from a character we have been getting hints for since forever lol. Anyone following the story knows that 80% of story done comment isn't accurate. The fact that we are still focusing on the allies in each of these arcs is telling. The crew needs more than just themselves to contest certain enemies. The Yonkou and WG are organizations. The crew needs to go through more and gain more allies. Why not give those allies depth?
- Will each SH get an arc for development or will they be squeezed in with each other?
- Will there be anymore SH nakama after Jinbe? I honestly would prefer no one after Brook, but Oda is going for it anyway
- Who is the final antagonist and why is that even a debate if we are so close to the end?
Elbaf-Lodestar-Laugh Tale and Final War are easily going to close most of those plot points you have in mind.
I mean, tell us which other stuff is there that could not be specifically covered in those 4 arcs I named?
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Elbaf-Lodestar-Laugh Tale and Final War are easily going to close most of those plot points you have in mind.
I mean, tell us which other stuff is there that could not be specifically covered in those 4 arcs I named?
The fact that we don't know for sure when each of those arcs are coming or even if those are separate arcs or just smaller subplots is my whole point. We didn't know Wano was a possible arc until Ryuuma and how many arcs ago was that? You're providing 4 possible arcs that might not even be arcs and asking me to assign plot points to them. That would be headcanon and not reasonable. How many points were given closure compared to opening up or just addressing smaller points in WCI arc? What is the ratio on that? Zou arc had a better ratio than most of the Post timeskip arc. I still have a bunch of questions on that.
- Do all 4 islands have to be reached to make it to Laugh Tale?
- Where is it confirmed that you just need those 4 points and you have everything necessary to get there?
- Did Roger's crew go to any of those 4 locations?
- Is there more to knowing the location of Raftel in terms of getting there?
- Do you need a certain kind of pose, vivre card or some other resource to reach Laugh tale?
- If there is a resource needed, is it at these locations?
- What is it that the Roger Pirates fail at, that the SH crew have to succeed in?
- Who is the final antagonist? Is it someone we know already or someone hinted and not revealed yet?
- What role does the existing players play in all of this? Do dynamics change when we reach each plot point like with the Warlord System being over? Who is on what side?
- Why show us some of the Underworld's inner workings and this Research team? What will each member and their different findings mean?
- Why are we still learning about Haki and DF applications?
- What is Uranus? What was Joy Boy's role in the Void Century and why is that narrative held back from the world? Why does the WG go so far not to let this out? Are they the big bad or are they a necessary evil that are against the true antagonist?
- Is the race for the One Piece the end game and if not why do some fans think that something that still hasn't been found being inched closer to makes what we currently in the end game?
This isn't everything
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Ehm, Elbaf, Laugh Tale and the Final War,(dont know why yiu saying 4islands, "final war" is no an island) arcs are pretty much confirmed.
Lodestar is possible cause Roger went there and is the final island you reach by the log pose.And its is pretty much confirmed that you reach Laugh Tale by having the RP's as we've seen from Oden's fb.
But the question remains unanswered, what relevant plots cannot be resolved in those arcs?
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I dunno man your first like 7 questions can be answered in a single 20 page chapter.
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I think some people just don't want the story to end or think Oda must address absolutely everything in the story. I hope they are ready to be dissapointed.
In one chapter Oda can address so much and I think he knows how many more he can do so he will try to fit everything into those.
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The fact that some think everything doesn't need to be addressed when Oda has never shown that is my point. There's a difference between merging into with the other points and not covering at all.
Also, we did not see everything in Oden's flashback when it comes to the journey. Lets establish that fact.
Yes, they fit perfectly in arcs that we don't even know are arcs yet. That makes sense. We are going to have a Lodestar arc confirmed. Lets take all of these plot points that we don't know if they are related or not and attach them to prove an illogical point. Also, Elbag, Laugh Tale and Final War can be some of the same arcs. Especially final war and Laugh Tale. We don't know, yet we can can fit a bunch of plot points, that are still popping up more than being closed off, in them.
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Elbaf-Lodestar-Laugh Tale and Final War are easily going to close most of those plot points you have in mind.
I mean, tell us which other stuff is there that could not be specifically covered in those 4 arcs I named?
Literally Vegapunk himself. Unless his Lab is conveniently on Elbaf, i dont see him showing his face on a warfront, only his weapons. And he's been teased to be one of the biggest characters in the series so its obvious Luffy will meet him.
Vegapunk is tied to:
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Germa/Judge(if Jinbe and Germa escaped, its very likely Germa did not follow Jinbe to Wano)
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Caesar (has not been seen or heard from since WCI)
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Smoker/Tashigi/PH Kids (updates on them have been missing since Dressrosa; they are literally the only notable marines who did not appear during the Reverie)
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Kuma/Bonney (Kuma, and thus Bonney, are inherently tied to Vegapunk, due to Kuma's whole arc revolving around his superweapons)
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Revolutionaries (yes, they will certainly be part of the climax, but the Reverie portions indicate they will still probably try and save Kuma, and that may involve Vegapunk. So Kuma's story ties to them as well)
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CP-0 (like the above, possibly an endgame group, but because they have been compared as the antithesis of the Revolutionaries, and constantly teased like Vegapunk, I can see plot involving them here)
This is WHY i think there is a Vegapunk centric arc happening after Wano, regardless if the above is as comprehensive as i think. I cant see Elbaf devoting time and focus to this, as that possibly still involves Big Mom closing storyline, Usopp's big moments, Giants, and maybe other fantastical things like Enels return with moon revelations. I cant see it being on Lodestar or Laugh Tale because, hey, that probably will 99% have to do with Shanks/Blackbeard. And the final war is everything this series is culminating to, so I personally cant see how the above will receive any sort of plot relevance without a centralized arc
They all need their moments before we hit the climax of this series, and i strongly believe a Vegapunk arc is likely the next major arc before the 4 you mention. Lets not forget God Valley is another egnimatic place now too, and with Shanks possibly being related to Rocks somehow (the age and the fact that Roger him and gave him the Strawhat is pretty coincidental otherwise), this might be the centralized "Shanks arc". Not sure if Beehive will be visited or anything though either. Blackbeard strikes me as Laugh Tale/Final War material anyway.
Imo, and this might honestly stupid to do:
- Vegapunk
- Elbaf
- Lodestar
- Final War/Laugh Tale (May include New Marineford, Mariejois, Fishman Island and its destruction and more)
Are our final arcs.
That goes to show that none of us know how the final war will even be constructed. We have reasons to believe Mariejois/FI will be destroyed, but that requires the story to go back to the halfway point on GL. Does that happen before or after Laugh Tale? Interesting right?
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