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And yet, has already more candidacy legitimacy then Carrot.
That's only because Carrot has negative chances of joining, whereas O-Tama has 0.
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And yet, has already more candidacy legitimacy then Carrot.
As much as Conis, Aisa, Rebecca, etc. Standalone arc character that introduces main character into conflict and central point of said conflict.
Yes, she has more legitimacy.
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There's not gonna be a surge of "Tama4Nakama" is there?
Well now that you've given it a catchy name, sure.
Hashtag Tama4Nakama!
(Seriously though. She's 8. Not a chance.)
Oh, you naive ignorant fucking fool.
A young female who has a dream to go out to sea?
Of course, there is.
A young female who has a dream to go out to sea, that wants to be a kunoichi, that made a promise with Luffy's brother. and who has already bonded with Luffy over food, that isn't a typical busty girl design! With a unique non-broken devil fruit power that makes FOOD!
If she was 15 instead of 8 there'd be no end of serious claims already.
…..#Tama4Nakama.
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A young female who has a dream to go out to sea, that wants to be a kunoichi, that made a promise with Luffy's brother. and who has already bonded with Luffy over food, that isn't a typical busty girl design! With a unique non-broken devil fruit power that makes FOOD!
If she was 15 instead of 8 there'd be no end of serious claims already.
…..#Tama4Nakama.
See, if she was a kunoichi and was 15 and still had a non-fanservice character design and could fight competently against literally fodder, then I would claim Tama had a chance.
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See, if she was a kunoichi and was 15 and still had a non-fanservice character design and could fight competently against literally fodder, then I would claim Tama had a chance.
But… its such a catchy phrase that's been coined!
#Tama4Nakama!
That outweighs all logic and reason! SHe's totally as valid as all the other choices over the last several years!
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Tama4Nakama!
It rhymes so it must be true!But seriously, damn you Oda for teasing us with an actual female kunoichi, only that she's too young to be a pirate!
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I told you we will get a Kunoichi <3
Or a Onna-bugeisha
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If we get a 3rd woman we could also start a new campaign called #Okama4Nakama!
Could be Mr.2, could be someone else
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This is still much quieter than I expected it to be.
Still, #Tama4Nakama
! in 10 years maybe
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Gonna have to counter that with #nokama
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This arc will be long long years of Kishido constantly repeating "kunoichi or onna-bugeisha", won't it?
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It is a shame she's only a kid as her making nunchaku or tonfa out of dango would be pretty cool. Alas.
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This arc will be long long years of Kishido constantly repeating "kunoichi or onna-bugeisha", won't it?
I will take a cool unique ninja as well like Raizou.
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I want a talking sandal.
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I want a life, but we can't always get what we want, now can we?
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There aren't people SERIOUSLY suggesting Otama as next nakama right? They're just joking right? A parody of next nakama theories right?
Originally Posted by MrBits
Place your bets. Is [AlphaMale/AlphaBro, an obvious ban evader] going to get banned again today, tomorrow, or in a week?
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okay let's bet . Would love to see your losing face next week !
An actual bet and conversation on the Chapter 905 thread, literally an hour before he got banned again.
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There aren't people SERIOUSLY suggesting Otama as next nakama right? They're just joking right? A parody of next nakama theories right?
Beats talking about the non-chance Carrot though, at least more entertaining
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As far as the mystery woman goes, her entrance as another damsel in distress doesn't leave much to be desired. Nami's big entrance was to brazenly steal from other pirates. Robin's was as the top operative in a powerful pirate group disarming the entire Straw Hat crew. Even Carrot's was to go toe to toe against Zoro. I should hope that if there's another female candidate on the horizon, she'd have more of an opening act than being saved from some underlings.
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For my part, until we are given a reason why her age shouldn't be a factor, I can't see O-tama as a serious possibility.
At eight years old, she's only a year older than Luffy was when Shanks refused to take him along. Flash forward five years - or better yet, ten - and sure, but for now she's too young and too inexperienced.
Can definitely see Luffy taking on Ace's promise to her as his own, though, so if there's a late series time skip, I could see Tama joining on as a "pirate apprentice" a la Shanks and Buggy for the final stretch. But then, I'm also fully expecting Momo/Tama to become a thing as well, so who knows…
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As far as the mystery woman goes, her entrance as another damsel in distress doesn't leave much to be desired. Nami's big entrance was to brazenly steal from other pirates. Robin's was as the top operative in a powerful pirate group disarming the entire Straw Hat crew. Even Carrot's was to
go toe to toe against Zoro.immediately be heavily overshadowed by Wanda wearing Nami's bikini.Fixed that for you.
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and still had a non-fanservice character design
Lets be real, having a fanservice design would only increase her chances of joining. We know what Oda is about.
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But seriously, damn you Oda for teasing us with an actual female kunoichi, only that she's too young to be a pirate!
This also means than any actual kunoichi that shows up will likely get roped into becoming Tama's teacher at the end of Wano.
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Personally, I'm of the opinion that we'll get a total crew of 12 (Luffy + 11 nakama). However, there exist some exceptions to that count: Thousand Sunny, Zeus, and potentially any apprentice(s).
One Piece draws a lot of parallels between Luffy and Roger even their crews to a degree. Roger himself has at least 3 apprentices that we know about: Shanks, Buggy, Oden.
I didn't like the idea but after Zou arc it had me thinking that Momo might become an apprentice on Luffy's ship similar to how Oden was on Roger's.
But I really hate Momo, so I'm more open to the idea of Tama.
Apprentices are different since they're only considered "sort of" members of the crew.
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Momo will probably go to Laftel with Luffy, becuase the tradition and purpose of the Kouzuki clan are linked to the void century (and Momo wants to recover all kinds of knowledge that were lost with his father's death), although he'll not go there as a Strawhat, in my opinion. As for O-Tama, it's an interesting "coincidence" that she has the same age as Momo, so I can see them becoming a sort of a duo (to not say a couple, since they're kids) and maybe Luffy can take her to Laftel together with Momo (it would fulfill both her duty with the Kouzuki clan and her desire to go out to the sea with Ace).
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Momo will probably go to Laftel with Luffy, becuase the tradition and purpose of the Kouzuki clan are linked to the void century (and Momo wants to recover all kinds of knowledge that were lost with his father's death), although he'll not go there as a Strawhat, in my opinion. As for O-Tama, it's an interesting "coincidence" that she has the same age as Momo, so I can see them becoming a sort of a duo (to not say a couple, since they're kids) and maybe Luffy can take her to Laftel together with Momo (it would fulfill both her duty with the Kouzuki clan and her desire to go out to the sea with Ace).
I don't think Momo is going to Raftel. Oden was on Roger's ship for a specific reason. Robin already fulfills that reason for Luffy.
Purely coincidence
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I don't think Momo is going to Raftel. Oden was on Roger's ship for a specific reason. Robin already fulfills that reason for Luffy.
Momo would not go to help Luffy or to do Robin's job. He would go for his own personal reasons just as Oden… then Momo's role for the plot could be revealed according to whatever it is that Oda is envisioning for the end game.
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Momo would not go to help Luffy or to do Robin's job. He would go for his own personal reasons just as Oden… then Momo's role for the plot could be revealed according to whatever it is that Oda is envisioning for the end game.
I guess. It just feels cheap to be following someone else's story when Luffy finally achieves his dream.
Also, how do you see Momo re-entering the story? Because Raftel isn't going to be right after Wano and I doubt Momo is going to be hanging around with the crew after that.
Purely coincidence
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I guess. It just feels cheap to be following someone else's story when Luffy finally achieves his dream.
Also, how do you see Momo re-entering the story? Because Raftel isn't going to be right after Wano and I doubt Momo is going to be hanging around with the crew after that.
I don't like to enter into fanfic territory, but I feel like Oda is building up the Kouzuki clan to have an immense significance to whatever it is that the One Piece means (the treasure, the story, the puporse, the will, the ideology)… so Momo would be there as a symbolic representative of the will of his clan to give even more emotional weight to the plot.
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Can't Hawkins just tell us with his cards what are the odds that Carrot joins the crew?
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Can't Hawkins just tell us with his cards what are the odds that Carrot joins the crew?
No point. Everyone would take what they want from it.
If he said 0.% people would say that's makes more certain because Luffy does the irrational or that's Oda telling us she's not joigning. And if he said 99.5% people would say that's Oda telling us she's joigning or that Luffy won't because he doesn't respond to logic.
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No point. Everyone would take what they want from it.
If he said 0.% people would say that's makes more certain because Luffy does the irrational or that's Oda telling us she's not joigning. And if he said 99.5% people would say that's Oda telling us she's joigning or that Luffy won't because he doesn't respond to logic.
Oda once said "Every strawhat can become protagonist." You can choose whether to believe that or not, since some treats editors as if they're completely untrustworthy, but it made me realize that each of the Straw Hats have strong enough characterizations to become the main character in their own stories. If Oda really wanted to, he could make a spin-off manga with any of them and it would surely turn out great. It inclines to critically analyze any characters many people are wanting as new crewmates to see if their strong enough to stand on their own, and as of right now, Carrot seems best as a supporting character rather than a character than as a main one. Not exactly sure how to best describe my feelings on the idea, but that's how I feel about it.
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Oda once said "Every strawhat can become protagonist." You can choose whether to believe that or not, since some treats editors as if they're completely untrustworthy, but it made me realize that each of the Straw Hats have strong enough characterizations to become the main character in their own stories. If Oda really wanted to, he could make a spin-off manga with any of them and it would surely turn out great. It inclines to critically analyze any characters many people are wanting as new crewmates to see if their strong enough to stand on their own, and as of right now, Carrot seems best as a supporting character rather than a character than as a main one. Not exactly sure how to best describe my feelings on the idea, but that's how I feel about it.
I'm sure of Brook as a main character and I imagine myself being bored by Jimbei.
I mean there's a way to make any character a main one but I don't think every stawhats is equal in that front or that they are much better than some of the side ones.
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I imagine myself being bored by Jimbei.
Hey, hey, that's a guy that stood up to a Yonko you're referring to here.
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Oda once said "Every strawhat can become protagonist." You can choose whether to believe that or not, since some treats editors as if they're completely untrustworthy, but it made me realize that each of the Straw Hats have strong enough characterizations to become the main character in their own stories. If Oda really wanted to, he could make a spin-off manga with any of them and it would surely turn out great. It inclines to critically analyze any characters many people are wanting as new crewmates to see if their strong enough to stand on their own, and as of right now, Carrot seems best as a supporting character rather than a character than as a main one. Not exactly sure how to best describe my feelings on the idea, but that's how I feel about it.
What?
She wants to leave her isolated home and go see the world, and then her mentor dies right after giving her a tantalizing hint about an ancient prophecy. You don't see how that could be a protagonist? Hell, one of the main complaints people have against Carrot is that she's too similar to Luffy… The actual protagonist.
Purely coincidence
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The whole joke with Usopp at the beginning was that he essentially wanted to be the main character. Would the story have worked out if that had actually happened? As much as I love him, I tend to think not.
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What?
She wants to leave her isolated home and go see the world, and then her mentor dies right after giving her a tantalizing hint about an ancient prophecy. You don't see how that could be a protagonist? Hell, one of the main complaints people have against Carrot is that she's too similar to Luffy… The actual protagonist.
See, just "go see the world" when you put it like that doesn't feel like enough to me. One big reason each of the Straw Hats go out into the world is to specifically accomplish a goal that requires them going out into the world, as opposed to just staying in one spot.
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See, just "go see the world" when you put it like that doesn't feel like enough to me.
…Which is why I added the bit about the ancient prophecy. How many stories have started with an old prophecy?
Purely coincidence
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What?
She wants to leave her isolated home and go see the world, and then her mentor dies right after giving her a tantalizing hint about an ancient prophecy.
Unrelated to Carrot but…
This is almost a description of Shirahoshi. Lol
She has the desire to see the surface world & Luffy promised her he will bring her there when they meet again.
She lives in Fishman Island, which is as isolated as it can get.
She look up to her mother who passed away. I guess Otohime is sorta her mentor.
She is also one of the ancient weapon. There is an ancient prophecy where a man will guide her to fulfill the intended purpose of Noah.
The only thing missing is Otohime didn't leave any hints for her daughter, but to her sons.Of course, obligatory #Tama4nakama! Who cares if she is a kid!:ninja:
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^Well, that's why I expect Luffy to pick Shirahoshi after Raftel or at least when the conflict of FI is solved. She made a promise with him after all.
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Who cares about age if she can just stow away. Ninja training #1, travel with the crew without them realizing she is there. She gets caught when she tries to steal Luffy's food.
- "We cannot take you with us, we are going back. When you are fully trained we will come to pick you up."
- "Fuck that shit, you mofo might die as well." (Mangastream translation) Intense stare
- "Ah, okay."
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I think the color spread is a big technic point which is difficult to avoid though. As suggeking said, Oda had no problem to spoil the fact that Robin and Usopp would come back so why would he care now if not for the reason that he doesn’t consider Jinbei is fully part of the crew. Usopp was removed from the volumes intro pages so let’s see what 90th one says.
I did not know the volume went as far as removing Usopp from the intro pages. I guess you can follow that. I mostly get WSJ and rarely pay attention to the introduction page besides the cover page. I go from what the story is telling.
As i said, he probably feel the need of a chapter dedicated to his joining. The i’m your captain was in the middle of other event and completely lacked impact for such a crucial event that is adding a person to the crew. The fact that we disagree on the moment he joins (after fishman island, when he return mum’s sake cup, when luffy said i’m your captain…) also reinforce the need of a more conclusive one.
The I am your captain moment was not his joining moment. It was the sake cup. Fishman Island he was invited but he had something to do. Next time they meet, Jimbe clearly declares he is quitting Big Mom's crew to join the future Pirate King and that he would bet his life. To which Luffy says, hey you cannot join me if you are dead. The I am your captain moment was the confirmation of this transition.
If you asked Luffy after WCI if Jimbe was part of the crew. He would say of course, I am his captain. If you asked Jimbe whom is his captain he would say Luffy.
The reason why Jimbe is not with them, has probably to do with how they arrived at Wano. Oda went again with the crew being separated due to being unable to handle Wano's currents. If Jimbe was there, as he proved with his feat with the tsunami, they would not have been separated. Or even the intention was to separate them at all cost. Jimbe would have gotten to Luffy because he is a Fishman so Luffy would have entered Wano with someone with high chances of telling him about the place before he learns it from his "naive" point of view. Which is how Luffy gets involved with the struggle occurring in the island in need of help.
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…Which is why I added the bit about the ancient prophecy. How many stories have started with an old prophecy?
I still respectfully disagree, but you're still free to have your view of course.
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Who cares about age if she can just stow away. Ninja training #1, travel with the crew without them realizing she is there. She gets caught when she tries to steal Luffy's food.
- "We cannot take you with us, we are going back. When you are fully trained we will come to pick you up."
- "Fuck that shit, you mofo might die as well." (Mangastream translation) Intense stare
- "Ah, okay."
- "LUFFY!"
I wonder if even Luffy is strict about children joining his crew. Either he might copy Shanks and not have children join his crew like how Shanks said no to him when he was seven, or go with his own thoughts and bring Tama along anyway.
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We are entertaining a lot this debate about Luffy being strict or following Shanks' steps about kids in the ship. That is not the main problem with Tama. Her main problem is that she decided and promised to become a Kunoichi before going out to sea. Those are the terms of her deal with Ace and she shouldn't change them just because of Luffy.
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Is this the trap discussion now? Who could be a protagonist? Oh yea, nothing like using a completely generic concept to manipulate arguments, so I'll join the game.
Carrot could easily become a protagonist, because her behaviour is very proactive and her plot without the Strawhats could fit the Hero's Journay, in which she leaves home to see the world and then finds the purpose to bring the dawn of the world that her people want.
From the current Strawhats:
- Jimbe could be the protagonist of an epic Oscar winning drama about fighting discrimination.
- I can see Brooke being a protagoinst because of sheer charisma in an episodic comedy show in which he travels the world with a giant whale called Laboon.
- Robin would be the protagonist of another Oscar winning drama about discovering a dark truth about the goverment (that fucked her family in the past) with some Jason Bourne dynamic added into it.
- Usopp could be the protagonist in a comedic parody of the traditional hero, but he would save the day anyway for the feel good ending with a heartwarming message.
- Zoro would be the carefree, airheaded badass hero of an episodic action show, in which he would get lost and then find himself in a town in which some bad guys are tormenting good people and then Zoro would save the day… until the last episode when he would finally find the strongest swordsman in the world.
I can't really picture good shows for Sanji, Nami, Chopper and Franky... so I'll leave them to you.
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If you asked Luffy after WCI if Jimbe was part of the crew. He would say of course, I am his captain. If you asked Jimbe whom is his captain he would say Luffy.
The reason why Jimbe is not with them, has probably to do with how they arrived at Wano. Oda went again with the crew being separated due to being unable to handle Wano's currents. If Jimbe was there, as he proved with his feat with the tsunami, they would not have been separated. Or even the intention was to separate them at all cost. Jimbe would have gotten to Luffy because he is a Fishman so Luffy would have entered Wano with someone with high chances of telling him about the place before he learns it from his "naive" point of view. Which is how Luffy gets involved with the struggle occurring in the island in need of help.
If you asked me, I would probably say he is part of the crew, but i’m not in charge. Oda has decided jinbei official joining chapter has yet to come, and as such what luffy may or may not think is of no importance to me.
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Is this the trap discussion now? Who could be a protagonist? Oh yea, nothing like using a completely generic concept to manipulate arguments, so I'll join the game.
Carrot could easily become a protagonist, because her behaviour is very proactive and her plot without the Strawhats could fit the Hero's Journay, in which she leaves home to see the world and then finds the purpose to bring the dawn of the world that her people want.
From the current Strawhats:
- Jimbe could be the protagonist of an epic Oscar winning drama about fighting discrimination.
- I can see Brooke being a protagoinst because of sheer charisma in an episodic comedy show in which he travels the world with a giant whale called Laboon.
- Robin would be the protagonist of another Oscar winning drama about discovering a dark truth about the goverment (that fucked her family in the past) with some Jason Bourne dynamic added into it.
- Usopp could be the protagonist in a comedic parody of the traditional hero, but he would save the day anyway for the feel good ending with a heartwarming message.
- Zoro would be the carefree, airheaded badass hero of an episodic action show, in which he would get lost and then find himself in a town in which some bad guys are tormenting good people and then Zoro would save the day… until the last episode when he would finally find the strongest swordsman in the world.
I can't really picture good shows for Sanji, Nami, Chopper and Franky... so I'll leave them to you.
Nami would be the tragic tale of how poor circumstances and abuse can change one's demeanor into a greedy bitch and how to use the situation to your advantage for financial gain.
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Is this the trap discussion now? Who could be a protagonist? Oh yea, nothing like using a completely generic concept to manipulate arguments, so I'll join the game.
Carrot could easily become a protagonist, because her behaviour is very proactive and her plot without the Strawhats could fit the Hero's Journay, in which she leaves home to see the world and then finds the purpose to bring the dawn of the world that her people want.
From the current Strawhats:
- Jimbe could be the protagonist of an epic Oscar winning drama about fighting discrimination.
- I can see Brooke being a protagoinst because of sheer charisma in an episodic comedy show in which he travels the world with a giant whale called Laboon.
- Robin would be the protagonist of another Oscar winning drama about discovering a dark truth about the goverment (that fucked her family in the past) with some Jason Bourne dynamic added into it.
- Usopp could be the protagonist in a comedic parody of the traditional hero, but he would save the day anyway for the feel good ending with a heartwarming message.
- Zoro would be the carefree, airheaded badass hero of an episodic action show, in which he would get lost and then find himself in a town in which some bad guys are tormenting good people and then Zoro would save the day… until the last episode when he would finally find the strongest swordsman in the world.
I can't really picture good shows for Sanji, Nami, Chopper and Franky... so I'll leave them to you.
Franky's tale would be the most heroic since he underwent complete body surgery for Luffy. He mutilated his own body for two years. That is some Whitebeard level Badassery. If Luffy, Zoro and Shanks' scars throb from time to time, Imagine how many scars on the remaining body of Franky. The fact that Franky survived being run over by a train by doing operation on himself using a drowned ship's parts is alone Oscar worthy.
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Oh for the people in the back that still question if Jinbe is a member of the crew or not, in the recent Newspaper interview Oda pretty much confirms and belives Kinbe is a member of the starwhat crew.
despite joining the crew and apparently it was because he doesn't want to spoil one of the surprises about Jinbei's situation since his last appearance.
So maybe some people will stop the arguing, word of god says he is a member.
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I assume people on this forum must be playing Octopath Traveler…
Curiously, watching the trailer (since I don't have a Switch yet to actually play the game), the character I would probably chose as the main one in my game is exactly the one that gives me strong Carrot-vibes (the merchant girl).
As for the actual SH as protagonists, curiously I think I would hate Franky as one even though he is my favorite in the crew. As for Sanji and Chopper, I have the feeling I would like them much more if they were the protagonists of their own stories.
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Oh for the people in the back that still question if Jinbe is a member of the crew or not, in the recent Newspaper interview Oda pretty much confirms and belives Kinbe is a member of the starwhat crew.
So maybe some people will stop the arguing, word of god says he is a member.
Can you link me the source please? Thank you.
