I suppose the standard set by the previous episodes might have been just a tad too high as I couldn't get myself to really enjoy #6. It was cool to see a confident version of Morty for once though.
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I actually found this to be my favorite episode of the season, even if the Toxic/De-toxed personality traits weren't always kept straight
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I actually found this to be my favorite episode of the season, even if the Toxic/De-toxed personality traits weren't always kept straight
I think I would pick pickle rick or the escape from prison over it. But it's still one of the one I enjoyed the most. It just felt kind of out of touch with the rest I think. Healthy Rick was interesting. I tried to think who toxic Rick would care for and I got Morty, birdperson and maaaaaybe Squanchy. Summer is not important enough to be unhealthy, Beth is his daughter and they have a nice middle so it's fine and for Squanchy while they do have fun it doesn't seems Rick would risk his life on him so it's fine.
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I found the episode hard to watch, by the time the date happened I was sick of Morty's voice.
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Damn. If you've been through a manic phase, this hit a bit too close to home. But I loved the episode. Probably the best of the season.
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"Have you ever been peed on? like omg, yum" - Jessica's friend
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Six episodes in and this is kinda already feeling like the weakest season, despite the cool ideas and scenes here and there. Pickle Rick and the Premiere did feel the most complete… but the rest. There's something about the episode structure in general that bugs me. Like I don't always expect the three act structure to play out cleanly all the time since it's kind of a limited directing method to work with among so many others. But hmmm.
I can't really put my finger on why exactly these episodes don't flow too well for me. Even the set-pieces(locations visited) themselves tend to feel very... barren and less involved. Like they are less about the adventures and interactions within them, and exist more like backgrounds for the centric characters to constantly talk over. Like a sitcom or television drama with actors on a green screen projecting things that aren't even there.
But idk. It's far from bad episodes, but I'm certainly not feeling this season all that much.
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I can understand that, I've gathered that this season has been more divisive than the previous two. The season does seem to be focusing more on character development, so I guess it comes down to personal taste and whether those storylines appeal more or less to different viewers.
Personally, I've quite liked this season so far. The only episode I've been "meh" about was the second one (Rickmancing the Stone), and even then I didn't dislike it or anything. (Certainly, no episode has come close to annoying me as much as Raizing Gazorpazorp from the first season did.) I've liked all the others, and in addition to the premiere, the last two (Whirly-Dirly and Ricklaxation) are both pretty high on my series-wide list of most-loved eps.
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Morty deforming Ethan was a very WTF moment for me.
I get that Morty was being a protective brother getting payback for his sister's emotional struggle, but…
What did Ethan even do wrong? He broke up with Summer to court a "sexier" girl, and Summer got insecure over it.Yeah, it's shallow to choose your relationships based on body type alone,
but did he cheat on Summer? Did he personally insult or belittle her? Was he intentionally mean to her in any way?
From what the episode showed us... that's not the case. He literally just changed relationships.How in the fuck is that something to punish with possibly permanent horrific mutation?
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I thought Morty doing that was supposed to be seen as overly extreme and not particularly sympathetic. At least that's how it felt to me. Like a sign that Morty is starting to become more and more cold and, ironically, more like Rick, despite his increasing disillusionment with him. As the season keeps going, Morty seems closer and closer to snapping, and him doing that to Ethan felt like another step closer to that point.
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Summer seems to be about the only family member Morty really cares about these days.
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I'm of the opinion that this season is completely on top of its game, and tonight's episode was the best of the lot so far, maybe sans Rickshank. I guess the problem people are having might have to do with how introspective the latest adventures have been. Each episode has concerned itself primarily with some kind of pathos the characters are going through, be it fallout from the divorce, or Rick getting checked on his shit, so it's definitely without question the most character-driven season yet.
I dont think that's a bad thing, but I can see why people might miss the more zany, concept-driven episodes. Especially because Dan Harmon is a master of those.
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Kitsune nailed it.
I'm thoroughly enjoying the season, and the character-driven stuff is actually one of the biggest reasons.
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! Does this one counts as the "interdimensional cable" one of the season? Because I enjoyed this one a lot more, even if the plottwist was way too obvious.
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Is it really a plot twist if you can figure it out in about 5 seconds before they even start giving clues?
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Yes, the "plot twist" at the end was obvious af. But it was an amazing episode.
It really antagonized the Citadel, in a way we've never really seen before. We'd seen C-137's dislike for it, and they're actions against C-137 already sufficed to make us dislike the Council and the arbitrary order in which things seemingly work there, but this drove it toa whole new level. By the end of the episode, all of the dysfunctional, discriminatory, ultra-capitalistic, amoral, criminal, psychologically unbalance, plain unhealthy issues that the institutions of the Citadel low-key promoted, and its effects on all citizens, both Rick and Morty, came to the forefront. The Citadel now is as bad an enemy to the viewers as Evil Morty has ever been.
By the end, you're conflicted. On the one hand, the idea of a new 'President Morty' is great, brimming with hope for the future.. but on the other hand, we know that it's Evil Morty. The same Morty that conceived the 'Morty dome'. He's evil. But then is it really that evil to fight a society that's quite as oppressive as the Citadel with every means you've got? Conventional means wouldn't have changed things, only Evil Morty could reach those levels of power and make things change. We're shown how fucked up things are, through the eyes of all the characters portrayed. We're shown, in the boardroom, that there is no democracy. It's implied that the only answer to the oppressive leadership of the Ricks is Evil Morty's answer, there is no working within the limits of ones power from the inside, because nobody will recognize a Morty's status. There was no debating there, it was kill or be killed for Evil Morty.
The question now is, will they keep Evil Morty's 'evil' at this morally ambivolous point (within the already messed up Citadel-verse, he's not portrayed to be that much worse than the average murderer, junky, killer-cop, or even classist bigot), or will they dumb him down to being 'pure evil' by the time the conflict with the main characters arrives?
I also love how, in the end, all we're left with is Rick C-137 and our Morty as the only characters with a shred of happiness in the whole episode. Stark contrast, really, seeing them come out of Atlantis talking about "Mermaid puss" and having fun, after all that doom and gloom. Helps promote Rick's libertarian attitude, since he's enjoying life way more than any other Rick in the series.
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! Does this one counts as the "interdimensional cable" one of the season? Because I enjoyed this one a lot more, even if the plottwist was way too obvious.
! No. Next week is going to be the Interdimensioal Cable stand-in. The promos said so.
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! No. Next week is going to be the Interdimensioal Cable stand-in. The promos said so.
The promos also said this week was atlantis.
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The promos also said this week was atlantis.
Yeah, and those promos were so short and innocuous that of course it wasn't going to actually be about Atlantis.
But with next week's promos they deliberately broke the fourth wall to tell us this was going to be the Interdimensional Cable episode to hype it up. It makes no sense and wouldn't be funny for them to be lying about it.
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Never one hundred percent believe these promos.
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Yeah, and those promos were so short and innocuous that of course it wasn't going to actually be about Atlantis.
lol I forgot all about the Atlantis angle when watching the rest of it.
A really really great episode.
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I remember feeling a little bummed at the beginning of the ep that we wouldn't be able to follow our usual Rick and Morty and see the Atlantis journey…but then that quickly evaporated due to how fun this episode was. Loved it! And it's kinda nice, anyway, to think that the Atlantis trip being offscreened meant that R&M C-137 just went off and had a happy, enjoyable adventure together.
I liked Cop Rick quite a lot. I hope we get to see him again when Rick and Morty C-137 inevitably face off against Evil Morty/his Citadel, or at least in some future Citadel episode. Was glad that he was one of the (very few) people we followed in the episode who actually survived it, haha.
Also, were we supposed to know who Trenchcoat Rick was? (The one who gave Campaign Manager Morty the pictures that proved that Candidate Morty = Evil Morty) As in, have we seen him somewhere before? Cuz if so, I don't remember it. Or was he just another Rick?
And as for Evil Morty coming back, I'm pretty excited about that. I actually re-watched "Close Rick-Counters of the Rick Kind" just a couple of weeks ago and was wondering when Evil Morty would come back/if it would happen this season, so it was fun to see. Between Evil Morty and his Evil Citadel, and Tammy/ PhoenixPerson/ the remnants of the Galactic Federation, should be fun to see how the feuds with these two major enemy factions play out.
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This episode was too all over the place for me, jumping back and forth from one character story to another in order to give us an idea of life in the Citadel, all in the time span of 25 minutes.
I did enjoy the Harry Potter, Training Day, and Willy Wonka inspired themes though.
Everything's Eventual…
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This episode was too all over the place for me, jumping back and forth from one character story to another in order to give us an idea of life in the Citadel, all in the time span of 25 minutes.
I did enjoy the Dead Poet's Society, Training Day, and Willy Wonka/Brazil inspired themes though.
Fixed that for ya
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It's not really how the citadel works, but our world too. I think.
And I must be the only dumbass that was paying no attention at all and got surprised by the twist. Well, at least it made me happy I guess, so it's better like that
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This episode was too all over the place for me, jumping back and forth from one character story to another in order to give us an idea of life in the Citadel, all in the time span of 25 minutes.
I did enjoy the Harry Potter, Training Day, and Willy Wonka inspired themes though.
I thought it juggled it all really well. Everything sorta feeds into the political subplot, and there were some really clever transitions that played into that (plots introduced through the television broadcasting the political story, Evil Morty's speech at the debate overlayed with imagery from the various plots, and Evil Morty's final speech paired with the ends of each story). While the plots mostly don't intersect each other, they all show us how the Citadel works and the tensions within that allow Evil Morty to take over. The ep also affirms who Rick and Morty essentially are and distinguish the ones we know from the group taking refuge in the Citadel (reinforcing Rick's points about how faulty the whole institution is).
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Fixed that for ya
Nah. The coming of age story was a Stand By Me pastiche (with Harry Potter inspiring the Snape-like Rick). Brazil has a few intersecting themes, but I don't see anything here at all taking much direct inspiration. No clue where you're pulling Dead Poet's Society from.
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Still haven't seen Dead Poets Society so I wouldn't be able to tell either way but I definitely saw some Harry Potter in there.
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Nah. The coming of age story was a Stand By Me pastiche (with Harry Potter inspiring the Snape-like Rick). Brazil has a few intersecting themes, but I don't see anything here at all taking much direct inspiration. No clue where you're pulling Dead Poet's Society from.
A bunch of repressed teens wearing foppish uniforms fooling around in the countryside fighting for their individualism? Stand by Me would be more appropriate though, haven't thought of that. The ending of Factory Worker Rick was totally Brazil though.
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A bunch of repressed teens wearing foppish uniforms fooling around in the countryside fighting for their individualism? Stand by Me would be more appropriate though, haven't thought of that.
! Considering one of the teens commits suicide at the end, then it is more fitting.
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! Considering one of the teens commits suicide at the end, then it is more fitting.
! To be fair, that also happened in Dead Poet's Society.
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! To be fair, that also happened in Dead Poet's Society.
! I was talking about Dead Port's Society.
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I didn't realize it was going to be Evil Morty until the campaign manager was given the secret documents at the bar.
I legitimately thought that we were seeing the introduction of a different Morty, so that we'd end up with three main Mortys.
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Evil Morty is back and that's awesome. That makes the death of Morty's kid the only callback I haven't got. And I love that he actually got his own theme in the show. His first episode was one of the best and the ending of this one was rightfully sinister. I think he could be a good president. He seems like a Morty that got got pushed to far by his Rick and killed him while taking that experience as a life lesson "Ricks don't care about Mortys". I can definitely see him striving for a more equal life.
Sensible Rick is an interesting one. He is pretty much the clean version of rick(from the booger episode) I am looking forward to seing more of him.
The payoff for the simple Rick cookie was awesome. I did expect it once he started getting applaud but it was still pretty great in his awful fate.
I didn't really like the way the citadel is prtrayed to operate. I find it strange that Ricks would work in a factory to cite an example. I guess to me the citadel on his previous appeareance seemed like an organised, super high-tech base of operations for Ricks rather than a random society. I could definitely see why a Rick less prone to independence would want to work in that system and why our Rick could hand out with them on occasion because despite the differences they are still mostly the same asshole just one believing in total chaos while the other think having a system behind him is useful. This version is just a normal society with all the normal echelons just replaced with ricks or Mortys which I have a hard time believing a high IQ portal gun creator Rick would accept as a life.
Although considering the speech gave by the factory president maybe the citadel only recently fell to that state(but I doubt the Ricks on the lower echelon would stay) but it was automatically proved to be just lies.
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He seems like a Morty that got got pushed to far by his Rick and killed him while taking that experience as a life lesson "Ricks don't care about Mortys".
I could definitely see this being the case. Or that he overpowered his Rick and turned him into the cyborg "Evil Rick" he was controlling in his original episode.
Another intriguing theory I've seen floating around about Evil Morty (dunno if this has been mentioned before here or not): that he is the original Morty of our Rick (the one who goes by C-137). We've seen images of Rick with a baby Morty in two different episodes, but since Rick only came back into C-137 Morty's (and family's) life relatively recently at the beginning of the series from what we can tell, it would mean that he either visited Morty at a young age few times before reuniting with the family for good years later…or that the Baby Morty we saw isn't the current Morty we know. It could also be why Evil Morty specifically targeted Rick C-137 for his plot in "Close Rick-Counters". (That could also be explained away as simply C-137 being the easiest to frame because he didn't get along with the Citadel of Ricks, but Evil Morty also wanted to download the contents of his brain first instead of just killing him right away like he did with other Ricks.)
In the end, who knows, but regardless of what Evil Morty's deal is, it sure is great to have him back, both on the level of an individual antagonist and the fact that now the Citadel is an even bigger threat to our Rick and Morty.
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I could definitely see this being the case. Or that he overpowered his Rick and turned him into the cyborg "Evil Rick" he was controlling in his original episode.
Another intriguing theory I've seen floating around about Evil Morty (dunno if this has been mentioned before here or not): that he is the original Morty of our Rick (the one who goes by C-137). We've seen images of Rick with a baby Morty in two different episodes, but since Rick only came back into C-137 Morty's (and family's) life relatively recently at the beginning of the series from what we can tell, it would mean that he either visited Morty at a young age few times before reuniting with the family for good years later…or that the Baby Morty we saw isn't the current Morty we know. It could also be why Evil Morty specifically targeted Rick C-137 for his plot in "Close Rick-Counters". (That could also be explained away as simply C-137 being the easiest to frame because he didn't get along with the Citadel of Ricks, but Evil Morty also wanted to download the contents of his brain first instead of just killing him right away like he did with other Ricks.)
In the end, who knows, but regardless of what Evil Morty's deal is, it sure is great to have him back, both on the level of an individual antagonist and the fact that now the Citadel is an even bigger threat to our Rick and Morty.
I like this theory, but I also expect Roiland and Harmon to know that we expect this type of reveal. So I wouldn't be surprised if they threw a curveball by having Evil Morty's original Rick somehow be, I don't know, Doofus Rick lol. Evil Morty's original Rick being the cyborg would be a bit boring though.
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@Count:
I like this theory, but I also expect Roiland and Harmon to know that we expect this type of reveal. So I wouldn't be surprised if they threw a curveball by having Evil Morty's original Rick somehow be, I don't know, Doofus Rick lol. Evil Morty's original Rick being the cyborg would be a bit boring though.
Your search for constant underlying layers in fiction will be your demise.
I prefer the cyborg being his original Rick because it feels so personal "you spent your time using me now I use you" and it makes the killings of a bunch of Rick so much more emotional and a symptom of lashing out. While the cyborg being a Rick makes it more cold blooded and calculated. I prefer him as someone that was deeply wounded and was lashing out(who maybe saw the pissibility to do better once faced with the workings of the citadel) rather than a cold blooded sociopath that calmly assess his plan and was hurt a long long time ago so much it is merely a theory.
I could definitely see this being the case. Or that he overpowered his Rick and turned him into the cyborg "Evil Rick" he was controlling in his original episode.
Another intriguing theory I've seen floating around about Evil Morty (dunno if this has been mentioned before here or not): that he is the original Morty of our Rick (the one who goes by C-137). We've seen images of Rick with a baby Morty in two different episodes, but since Rick only came back into C-137 Morty's (and family's) life relatively recently at the beginning of the series from what we can tell, it would mean that he either visited Morty at a young age few times before reuniting with the family for good years later…or that the Baby Morty we saw isn't the current Morty we know. It could also be why Evil Morty specifically targeted Rick C-137 for his plot in "Close Rick-Counters". (That could also be explained away as simply C-137 being the easiest to frame because he didn't get along with the Citadel of Ricks, but Evil Morty also wanted to download the contents of his brain first instead of just killing him right away like he did with other Ricks.)
In the end, who knows, but regardless of what Evil Morty's deal is, it sure is great to have him back, both on the level of an individual antagonist and the fact that now the Citadel is an even bigger threat to our Rick and Morty.
I dunno. I guess that would mean that rick was a decent Granpa than abandon his dimension with a Morty in it 1 year before the start of the show and that's why he is suddenly more present. It's not impossible could even make a good twist if well handled. But I would have expected some seeds of an emotional connection from Morty's side back then.
Regardless Evil Morty is one of the most interesting concept they have and nothing sell it like him being the only one with a theme song.
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Well, just as I said, this was the Interdimensional Cable replacement episode (minus the improv).
Pretty good, though I did miss the improv.
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This may be a minority opinion since I think the Interdimensional Cable episodes are pretty popular, but personally, I liked this better than those. The improv from the ID Cable eps was fun, and I would get a chuckle from some of the clips here and there, but I could never care about those as much as I cared about the plot with the actual main characters of the series. (Might be why "Interdimensional Cable II: Tempting Fate" ended up being one of my least favorite episodes overall, though I did still like it; the B-plot with the Smith family was pretty meh, imo.)
Whereas with this episode, we've always known that Rick and Morty go on many, many, many offscreen adventures, so this was a chance to glimpse into more of them, and get an even clearer picture of the tension between the two of them and how close Morty actually is to snapping. It's pretty great that they managed to take the "clip show" concept and shake it up so that the "clips" are things that Morty has technically seen, but we haven't, and he re-experiences them as we do for the first time. I was slightly apprehensive going in, but really had a lot of fun with this ep.
EDIT: Was also a lot of fun to see my workplace, the VLA, appear in the episode!
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I hope they do more of these.
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then how are we better than them?!"I love this show so much.
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I like this theory, but I also expect Roiland and Harmon to know that we expect this type of reveal. So I wouldn't be surprised if they threw a curveball by having Evil Morty's original Rick somehow be, I don't know, Doofus Rick lol. Evil Morty's original Rick being the cyborg would be a bit boring though.
What if Evil Morty is actually a Rick, or a Rick's brain in a Morty's body?
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What would come from that? All evil comes Directly from rick and its not his influence? And what about the setup of our Morty being slowly more callous?
I don't like that.
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Why isn't the episode online yet ? I can't find it.
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After watching the season 3 of Rick and Morty, I think we can all agree that the show has become a parody of itself. Literally, they're not even trying to hide it and are in fact reveling in it.
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! The promos hyping this episode up as some adventure with the President seemed boring and I was betting that another Ricklantis Mixup red herring switch was going to happen. Yet they twisted it into a scenario of the President becoming an insecure buddy-turned jealous ex of Rick and Morty. And… that was unexpectedly hilarious.
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Well, that was an…odd way to end to the season.
But yeah. Traveling through time and space with a "companion", insane intellect and ingenuity giving him basically demi-god status, and a renegade from a society of stuck-up elitists. Yeah, Rick really is The Doctor (a much more cynical amoral Doctor).
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Gotta imagine the finale was written as a way to troll fans who were expecting something else given the title and episode 7.
That said, I dunno. And this might’ve been similar to my problems with Community too, but i’m enjoying the concepts of the episodes but that’s about it. This season, it’s cool Morty’s getting more savvy and not putting up with Rick’s BS, but from a story perspective I don’t see a direction in how that will impact his relationship with Rick or how it affects the adventures other than Morty acts snarky on adventures now. I guess the show’s not really about long story/character arcs, or at least i’m not seeing it done in a compelling way to come back to the show to see how characters are evolving, and i’m not hooked onto the lore like in other shows.
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