At this point, I just think the box is going to be the Deus Ex Machina that gives the Allied Forces a chance to escape by blowing up and causing the tower theyre standing on to collapse. Now that I think about it, we've been stuck in this same small spot for something like 10 chapters, but I haven't really gotten tired of it so far. I do hope the situation starts resolving soon, 2 chapters of "oh crap we're doomed, run" and "oh crap we're trapped" while in this same spot are enough.
Chapter 869: Under Siege
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I'm still counting on the Tamate Box being what will push Big Mom to actively pursue Luffy, once they escape this arc. Whether it's a simple reaffirmation of her anger or, she lets them leave on neutral terms and the box pushes her angry again.
This is what I'm expecting, but I hope its role is more creative and less redundant than that.
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@The:
That, and Smoothie's… amount of "care" put into the current situation, and that's me putting it nicely.
Don't blame Smoothie, blame Oda. Katakuri got all the cool and useful abilities to show off. And as Mr. Luffy pointed out, she is most likely the reason no family member ever died of poisoning.
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Don't blame Smoothie, blame Oda. Katakuri got all the cool and useful abilities to show off. And as Mr. Luffy pointed out, she is most likely the reason no family member ever died of poisoning.
That just makes it all the more disappointing to see Big Mom not get hit by Caesar's missiles and saved by Smoothie. And having a simple/lame-looking Devil Fruit is not an excuse when Luffy is the protagonist.
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It would probably take Smoothie a few hours to wring out Big Mom hahaha
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sad thing about this chapter is that we'll never know if the missiles would have actually worked.
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@Count:
That just makes it all the more disappointing to see Big Mom not get hit by Caesar's missiles and saved by Smoothie. And having a simple/lame-looking Devil Fruit is not an excuse when Luffy is the protagonist.
Lame-looking? Maybe it didn't come out like that in my last sentence, but her DF is extremely awesome. Oda just decided her brother has to shine more.
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@Kaido:
It would probably take Smoothie a few hours to wring out Big Mom hahaha
Let's add in Reiju for some threeway poison action then. :P
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@Count:
Let's add in Reiju for some threeway poison action then. :P
Count any thoughts on the Pudding panel?
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Oh dear for some reason Poison Pink looks like she has some liquid splattered on her.
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Lame-looking? Maybe it didn't come out like that in my last sentence, but her DF is extremely awesome. Oda just decided her brother has to shine more.
You said Katakuri got the cool and useful Devil Fruit. And Oda also thought Big Mom deserved to shine more right after Smoothie's introduction.
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Count any thoughts on the Pudding panel?
All I can surmise is Pudding being jealous of Nami getting held by Sanji. Which would be… ugh. But what is interesting is how I don't think we saw Pudding getting in the castle. So she has to play some sort of notable role due to her position outside. Besides reading Streussen's memories, obviously.
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on this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/869/7
Is Sanji ordering is daddy:
-to get in the castle?
-to go save his friends?What does the glare mean?
-"I still hate you even though you saved all of us"
-"Don't order me around you virgin !"
-Both?
-"gotcha, thanks son, love you very much, we won't hide though and free your friends, you're my fav son now <3 " -
on this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/869/7
Is Sanji ordering is daddy:
-to get in the castle?
-to go save his friends?What does the glare mean?
-"I still hate you even though you saved all of us"
-"Don't order me around you virgin !"
-Both?
-"gotcha, thanks son, love you very much, we won't hide though and free your friends, you're my fav son now <3 "Since Nami was just captured, he definitely pointed toward the baddies. And Judge glared because he obviously hates being put in this position but doesn't have much choice otherwise.
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on this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/869/7
Is Sanji ordering is daddy:
-to get in the castle?
-to go save his friends?What does the glare mean?
-"I still hate you even though you saved all of us"
-"Don't order me around you virgin !"
-Both?
-"gotcha, thanks son, love you very much, we won't hide though and free your friends, you're my fav son now <3 "Sanji was probably ordering him to get his candy ass inside the castle and Judge's glare was answer #1.
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When the germa logo will appear in the manga, I hope the narrator takes this
(or just something appropriate) and says "GERMA 66 !!"@Kaido:
Since Nami was just captured, he definitely pointed toward the baddies. And Judge glared because he obviously hates being put in this position but doesn't have much choice otherwise.
But he's pointing at the opposite direction though.
You can see that Perospero is on his right, and Sanji is ordering them to go on his left… and other pages are pointing out that he ordered the bad direction though. Maybe Judge was mad because Sanji ordered the wrong direction :ninja: Sanji missing Zoro confirmed!!btw, fat ass Jajji puts his armor on and doesn't even kick ass.
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and where are the armors even coming from in the first place?
yeah, someone gives -ji his armor http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/865/15
but who the fuck is it? I thought they didn't have the armors with them, but they just happened to pop out from an unknown hand???
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i can't wait for the Tamatebako's cover story
who knows what wonderful and whimsical adventures await it
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They had access to the Mirror World all night before the wedding. They likely snuck in and got the suits then.
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They had access to the Mirror World all night before the wedding. They likely snuck in and got the suits then.
yes seems obvious/legit. But they had no reason to sneak in there, or even grab those metallic things that magically turned out to be armors etc.
I might be nitpicking though, but in another hand, maybe Oda didn't draw Nami giving them their armors but just her hand, so that it doesn't look ass-pulled. I mean, if we'd had a page in which Nami was entirely drawn giving the Vinsmoeks their armors, what would that have looked like?
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i can't wait for the Tamatebako's cover story
who knows what wonderful and whimsical adventures await it
It makes it's way to East Blue. Gaimon, who finally escapes his chest, falls into the Tamate box. He can escape it, however if he does he'll explode.
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Really liked the chaos of this chapter, glad we got to see the vinsmokes show off their merit as merceneries and now they're trapped in with all of big mom's forces waiting outside and the emperor herself wailing on the castle while capone suffers.
Curious to see wat sanji has in mindd, he looks conspicuous on the last page
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and where are the armors even coming from in the first place?
yeah, someone gives -ji his armor http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/865/15
but who the fuck is it? I thought they didn't have the armors with them, but they just happened to pop out from an unknown hand???
according to the gloves, it's Nami, but why does she have the armors again???Capone is head of security and weapons are given to him. He probably got Germa's when they came to the wedding and passed them to Nami.
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great chapter.. feeling the vinsmoke sailor moon-style transformations.
bege is a ledge.. komamura feels your pain bro - awesome ability, but damn a huge weakness
break next week too! yikes
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with big mom snapped out of her confusion, there no point on making a cake anymore, is it? i mean, even if they make the cake and distract big mom with it, her children are still there to fight them. the children won't help them make the cake either because big mom already got her sense back and the children wont have to worry of being attacked by her anymore.
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Solid chapter after solid chapter, really enjoying it.
That mess they put themselves in, really feels kind of desperate and it´s hard to see how they can get out of it this time^^
Luffy really has to amaze us once more against that raging iron ball smashing on the walls for him to come out.
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I really don't get why some focus on Sanji look.
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It seems BM is more pissed at Bege for the betrayal than Luffy. Really excited to see how things shake out. I'm been aching for some real good fights. I'm still a little sad that the Vinsmokes didn't get a beating from Sanji
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LOL @ Bege's castle smoking a cannon
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I'm not sure I'm as interested in this chapter. It seemed short to me, even though it probably wasn't. I think I'm more interested in the conclusion / turning point after this.
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I thought Pudding was little bit jealous of Sanji carrying Nami,may be my imagination.
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I thought Pudding was little bit jealous of Sanji carrying Nami,may be my imagination.
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/869/11Yeah, it might show that Pudding developed some sort of feelings toward Sanji, so this may be relevant soon. Either she'll want to help Sanji's group out, or she'll go full yandere and wanna kill Nami.
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Yeah, it might show that Pudding developed some sort of feelings toward Sanji, so this may be relevant soon. Either she'll want to help Sanji's group out, or she'll go full yandere and wanna kill Nami.
Really wish it wasn't a profile shot since we can't get the full reaction and I can see like Jaime posted that maybe Pudding falling for Sanji a bit and his hot blooded gentleman passion is melting her heart with a cool island song, and I doubt she go the full yandere route since the redemption stuff.
That and there no background indicating where the hell she is.
Glad to see the punch really didn't do much, really kinda pegged Pero as a bit of a glass canon.
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/sarcasm (mostly)Would love to see OP fandom react if that was the case.
You do know that gonna happen right? It's Oda after all Luffy just needs to say something nice to Big Mom. Which will solve the situation with her.
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It seems BM is more pissed at Bege for the betrayal than Luffy.
Understandable, I mean look at how she reacts to anyone who tries to leave her crew amicably, never mind someone who's actively betrayed her.
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It looks like Pudding feels something about Sanji swooping in and saving Nami. I'm curious what kind of development that will bring….
"He really loves her." The fandom, probably. Me screaming, definitely.
As for Germa 66:
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Yeah, it might show that Pudding developed some sort of feelings toward Sanji, so this may be relevant soon. Either she'll want to help Sanji's group out, or she'll go full yandere and wanna kill Nami.
she is gonna redeem herself by canceling the big mom's pirates memories about what happened.
think about it…one of the big "powers" of big mom hve always been her abilities to get info and her connection..sanji complied because of the baratie.
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It would probably take Smoothie a few hours to wring out Big Mom hahaha
How do you wring an 'iron balloon'':wassat::ninja:?
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Puddings reaction to Sanji holding Nami.
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Standard one piece. Not bad, but not a particularly exciting chapter. I think I'm getting bored.
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I think now there's a better shot for pudding to stay evil and want to kill nami. Nami will have to beat her.
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@uniaka:
I think now there's a better shot for pudding to stay evil and want to kill nami. Nami will have to beat her.
Lol that ain't happening.
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Looking forward to Barto and his crew going crazy. I wonder whom that guy with the den den mushi is calling.
I really like how much one can tell in just a couple of panels. We get a glimpse at Du Feld's personality, even risking going against Big Mom.
It is really hard to think the Strawhats are in danger when Luffy is casually admiring Bege and Brooke sipping tea. Not to mention the latter actually fought Mom, so he knows first hand how powerful she is.
I am actually glad that the mirror escape is off the plan, it gave the alliance an easy way out, now they can start formulating a plan based on their strengths.
Sanji telling Judge to get moving was really good when considering how frustrated and humiliated Judge feels. Not only he was crying and begging for his life, it was actually the one kid that he saw as a failure for caring about others that helps saves him. It seems that Ichiji was contemplating the events that transpired, and his little nodding with Niji might be hints on their character growth. Everyone found them dull, but that was the whole point, powerful characters that lack emotion would make them uninteresting and robotic.
The Big Mom pirate with the long sleeves, I wonder what power does he have. I doubt it will be revealed, but many of the fire-based or explosion based fruits are out, so I cannot think of another possibility. Even less if it is supposed to be food related. Got to give it to Perospero, he does not even seem bothered that he got punched in the face. In fact, it is a bit scary how resilient the Big Mom pirates are, I do not think any of them has been taken out.
…...Pudding is....mmm...I might as well abandon all hope for anything good to happen with her. I will just wait to see which of the lesser evils is used: Her being jealous of Nami, her being in love with Sanji or using her memory powers against her family. If her breakdown had been about Sanji telling her she can decide for herself, then any of this scenarios would be okay, but it being so close to saying: "we all just want to be called beautiful"...cringy.
The Fishman Island treasure: I laughed when it flew, even had a little Du Feld moment, with eyes breaking the glasses. And I feel many felt the same way. As the chapters progressed, the bomb's influence in the story just keeps changing. Pekoms, Tamago or Pound getting it up to the scene again. It destroying part of the castle. How will it be used?
Here I thought Big Mom would go straight to her food rampage, but she actually regained her senses. Now, I would feel cheated out that she starts having them, because I would prefer them coming up with a way to overcome the current situation. If Sanji does indeed go on his baking adventure there are a couple of things that bother me:
- Would Big Mom want an identical cake, or just the flavor. If the latter, just give them the chunks leftover from the previous cake.
- If the former, did the cake not take three days to bake? Now they have to do it in at best a couple of hours/minutes, I know, ~fantasy and magic powers~ but if that was the case and Sanji needs the help of Big Mom's children, why wouldn't the Big Mom pirates be able to do it themselves.
- Streussen needs to die, or why wouldn't he conduct the preparation himself.
- The Big Mom pirates seem to have dealt with this problem for many years, so unless Streussen is taken out, then why would they need help now?
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The whole point of the chapter was to show how the Vinsmokes were super cool… everything else is pointless and/or a pretext for the Vinsmokes showing off. "omg the fodders got captured lol, let's throw some fire on the Vinsmokes to make 'em look veryyyy cool"
Last page of this chapter should have been the first one of this chapter (or last one of the prior chapter).
If Bege doesn't turn into Knov 2.0 (HxH) after that, I go ballistic somehow :ninja:What was even the point with the Tamatebako box? "yeah, that's a setup, it means that Pekomamushi will bring the box with him at the top of the castle for some reason, or that the fight will move "downstairs" " yes, but still a pointless setup.
and of course wtf, did Reiju really harm a Sweet Commander?
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Pekomamushi somehow saving everyone. Or something with the Shitsmokes maybe
A wounded Bobbin's crawl's towards the candy tower over the next few chapters and finally reaches for a way up grabbing the top of the chest from behind causing an explosion large enough to bring down the whole towering platform and dumping it into the ocean possibly? The tamatebako box still may be our way out of this (I hope it isn't the scapegoat and easy button that is pushed but just saying don't rule it out… that blast is going to go off this arc and now that it's at the bottom of the tower it is primed to do the most chaotic damage.
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Diesel is been off the rails for so long.
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A wounded Bobbin's crawl's towards the candy tower over the next few chapters and finally reaches for a way up grabbing the top of the chest from behind causing an explosion large enough to bring down the whole towering platform and dumping it into the ocean possibly? The tamatebako box still may be our way out of this (I hope it isn't the scapegoat and easy button that is pushed but just saying don't rule it out… that blast is going to go off this arc and now that it's at the bottom of the tower it is primed to do the most chaotic damage.
and–-- the Bigmom family will drown into the sea, lmfao. Seriously, who doesn't have a DF in that crew? I guess Katakuri could still save the day though.
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wasnt the tamatebako originally a trap for the thiefs, who would dare to break into the treasure room in the ryugu palace?
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wasnt the tamatebako originally a trap for the thiefs, who would dare to break into the treasure room in the ryugu palace?
i doubt they were preparing it with explosives strong enough to bring down big moms castle if it was anticipated to go off inside the Palace:ninja:Them fishmen are not messing around, they were willing to take the entire country if necessary., The explosion is going to be strong enough that we'll have the equivalent of Franky but with the King and Chancellor. One on each side.
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wasnt the tamatebako originally a trap for the thiefs, who would dare to break into the treasure room in the ryugu palace?
i doubt they were preparing it with explosives strong enough to bring down big moms castle if it was anticipated to go off inside the Palace:ninja:If it's a tiny explosion then I ask, what is the point?
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If it's a tiny explosion then I ask, what is the point?
Quite a few people could be affected by a "tiny" explosion.
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