@desa:
I suppose the problem with making it a twist is that it would seems kind of coming from nowhere. And on top of Bege's betrayal it would be a bit much.
I don't disagree.
And that's why I never participate in the whole Vinsmoke are stupid. Every prior points to Big Mom upholding her end.
Exactly.
Princesses playing bad to gain a chance at hurting the dictator of their country is something I can side with. Vivi is awesome. Baby 5 & Pudding getting saved due to their maiden heart underneath is what I loathe especially the presentation(marriage&boner).
I just find her hesitations silly at this point.
At least Baby 5 being mentally damaged enough to become subservient to whoever asks for her help was a recurring character trait. Not that I like her turning a new leaf as quick as she did, and with whatever that marriage pity proposal was supposed be. It disturbs me that this is sort of taking advantage of a mentally ill person being made for humor, even if it's a for a beneficial cause.
That whole third eye abuse history came out of thin air at the very last minute. And even if it we did know about it earlier, I still don't think being treated bad by her family is an excuse for her misdeeds due to lacking any traces of a conscience. If, or let's actually be honest and say when, she gets redeemed, it's going to be out of liking a superficial compliment than actually being a good person.
I appreciate the hesitations only because the change is not as immediate as the other cases. Not that it's really any better.
Pretty sure Oda wants us to consider them dead and there's no debate in his mind. Even Sabo was confirmed dead in a less visual situation. But I think the forum had a old bet relating to this issue.
I was only kidding. I know that Oda wants us to believe they're dead. But I wish didn't have to be so stubborn about a rule we know he will only break in very rare occasions. And minor antagonists like Monet and Vergo obviously don't fit that bill.
@The:
I'm not so sure how to feel towards Judge's sudden tears of betrayal right now. On one hand, he totally had this coming to him with how he turned his children into tools to benefit for personal gain, coupled with Reiju's "this was bound to happen, one way or another". While on the other, this juxtaposes with Sanji's feeling of weakness when compared to his brothers, plus the fact that his kids had their emotions sucked right out of them and don't even value their lives while Judge is the only one kicking and screaming for his life, and it kinda makes me feel bad for the poor SSJ3 Vinsmoke.
He's getting his just desserts. And it's okay to feel bad for people experiencing a punishment even if they totally deserve it.