She just needs to put some souls into sweets and then clone them? Would they count as living beings?
They still need to have genes and all those nucleotides to work.
I guess that how cloning works in general.
Chapter 853: Not Here!!!
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I don't really get the argument that Robin will lose her uniqueness because of the other method to decipher the Poneglyphs, which isn't even a new development as Roger was revealed to decipher them that way 300 chapters ago and we knew he could read them over 500 chapters ago..
One thing I thought about in the Zou Arc, which reentered my mind due to the scene due to it currently being aired on the anime, was how much of an overpowered trump card Robin can seem at times for the Straw Hats. Until the Zou Arc, she was the only one we knew who could read the Poneglyphs, and guess what, it's Poneglyphs you need to get to Raftel. Don't get me wrong, the Straw Hats deserve to have such an ace based on their actions in Enies Lobby. But in light of that, how are we really supposed to view any New World pirate as a viable competitor against Luffy for the title of Pirate King, rather than just living breathing allies/roadblocks? Especially Blackbeard? In conjunction with what I said earlier about the likelihood of the vast amount of talent in the New World giving the ability to decipher Poneglyphs, it makes sense that Oda is having the pirates who are closest to Raftel, Big Mom and Kaido, go to great pains to find this talent…talent that is not easy to come by, mind you. The only reliable options are the small remnants of the family of the original Poneglyph inventors, and a very rare tribe whose presence in the series is nearly nonexistent. Thus, Oda manages to highlight how much Robin's addition is worth to the Straw Hats, while avoiding having her be a crazily overpowered Chekhov's Gun that basically gave the Straw Hats the lone cheat code in an unwinnable game.
Also, another thing comes to mind when thinking about uniqueness: the entire premise of this series is about a guy doing the exact same thing someone else did two decades ago. While Oda thankfully has so far managed to avert the stupid "reincarnation" trope prominent in some shonen manga, Luffy did not set out to do something new under the sun, just leave his mark on the highest level of greatness known to mankind. In a large and expansive world such as this, it would be kind of weird and unrealistic to create such a prominent facet of the world and then make only one person able to actually work with it.
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I just realized it.
It is the Year of the Rooster isn't it?
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It will give her the power to hear the voice of all things. It seems that is an innate power those with the 3 eye tribe have. Where as with normal people it is a super rare ability…that literally only a few people probably even have like Luffy/Momo...
Nah, that's not the power. Roger, Oden, Momo, Luffy & Zoro are able to listen pretty well and no one is actually of that tribe.
I can take for example the very God Usopp, he has shown something unique just by the power of sight. You can understand people with outstanding Kenbunshoku such as Otohime, Coby or Aiza. The plot takes you to grasp that Luffy, Roger, Oden & Momo are able to hear words from unspeakable creatures. Yet with something still unknown, an incredible hard situation only overcomed with willpower grants the ability to feel the breath and watch distant auras. The third eye culture points to that, that's why i'm saying that sight belongs to the eyes.
Another point here is the relation between Lin Lin, Kaidou and Roger. Why i'm putting Kaidou here? Because he's just took Wano, the country of masons. Just like Lin Lin hopes Pudding is her card under her sleeve. Kaidou, at taking control of the country, must have something in mind to reach Raftel… maybe another wise man with the knowledge of the Poneglyph's language?
The relation is strong because of the need of make their crew insanely strong! Lin Lin wants clones and giants, Kaidou wants an army of Zoans... i get the principle of the Pirate King being the strongest pirate, but it is not needed when talking about Luffy. But for everybody else, it is, and that's the way for them to reach the title. -
I'm starting to think Brook separated his soul from his body and took the Poneglyph rubbing with him.
This chapter he looked like an empty vessel..no reaction from him at all..I came to that conclusion as well,until he started having thought bubbles then I realized for whatever reason he remained in his body. Side note maybe he pressed his soul like puddy to make a copy of the stone thus doesn't need a physical copy.
Are we all going to ignore Oda took the time to showcase Smootie's flat arse again? Just why?Also yeah what is up with Pudding? I think this chapter proves she is not bad or more evil than we even can imagine one or the other. Either way she is plotting against BM or at least in her own interest.
Final thought, someone tell me that Luffy's arm' aren' both going to rip off, please? Every chapter they rip more and more I'm getting concerned he wants to be too much like Shanks.
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@Daz:
Thats the crux of the matter. Its not so much that Luffy is letting his crewmembers take care of themselves, he's done that countless times. But then its always been because he charged ahead with some other objective -"You do that while I do this". Here, Luffy runs off in order to…make zero contribution to resolving the situation whatsoever, while his entourage is entagled with a top 4 pirate crew who beat and captured Luffy himself a few hours earlier.
Thanks, I think you have pretty much nailed the roots of my frustration at this starvation situation. Looking back at it, on principle Luffy's decision and the dynamic it creates between him and Sanji are very powerful and could make for a compelling character interaction ; however the way Luffy completely ignores the context to focus solely on his "promise" makes it feel like nothing more than some moronic whim. As you say, future chapters may change this, but at the moment it does disappoint. :sad:
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I just realized it.
It is the Year of the Rooster isn't it?
Yup.
And I hope that Tamago will be one of two people that Sanji will beat this arc. One other being Ichiji as final enemy for Sanji during this arc.
I also guess that Tamago in his final form is close to combat power of Sweet Commanders.
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I really don't understand you guys, now you are criticizing even Luffy without understanding what he's up to.
It's all a matter of trust, Luffy trust his team mates, and trust Sanji to come back.
Luffy also wanto Sanji to trust him and believe in their dreams.
What's the point in Luffy going back to the castle and kickin everybody's ass, even BM maybe.
I wouldn't read anymore OP if the story would take that route, cause it's 20 years Oda is doing something else.
I wouldn't respect Sanji either if he needs Luffy to come there and scold him, cause he was embarassing himself throughout all the year and if he want to come back he HAS to do something. The face of Sanji in this chapter is not the hopeless face we saw until now, maybe he's already resolved and started to plan something, in any case I don't want Luffy to come back and save him, maybe in the near future but not now.
I don't understand why you also believe that luffy didn't care about Nami and the others, he trust them. He also have faith in Jinbe to protect them. Other than that, you must be glad that Oda let the others shine and show why they are crewmates of the future Pirate King.
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This chapter was kind of a mess. It starts with Linlin being an exposition machine for no apparent reason. It moves on to an explanation of Tamago's abilities, which I really want to like despite how illogical it seems to be, where the guards just explain his powers without us really seeing them in action. We establish the deus ex machina-ness of Bropper's mirrorland. Then Luffy behaves like somebody without a brain by raging through the castle and suddenly deciding to run back to where he was after a six second conversation with Reiju. And he's really hungry, if you haven't noticed.
/rabblerabblerabble
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I probably read a different manga
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Who would win between Weevil from One Piece and Weevil from Yu-Gi-Oh?
I accept Jesus Burgess as my Lord and Savior
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Who would win between Weevil from One Piece and Weevil from Yu-Gi-Oh?
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Obviously, the real star of this chapter was Pedro. He'd be a unstoppable force in almost every shounen series where they get ready for an attack or new transformation.
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Obviously, the real star of this chapter was Pedro. He'd be a unstoppable force in almost every shounen series where they get ready for an attack or new transformation.
Pedro aint got time for that!
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Who would win between Weevil from One Piece and Weevil from Yu-Gi-Oh?
That depends on two things…
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Is the battle fought in a forest?
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Did Underwood manage to plant a parasite paracide on Edward?
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That depends on two things…
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Is the battle fought in a forest?
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Did Underwood manage to plant a parasite paracide on Edward?
Is Edward allowed to special summon Miss Bakkin to the field? If so, it's a spiteful curbstomp.
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We're talking cannon here? Because whether it isn't, then he can use the Orikalkos wheel and Weevil just upgrades any monster on the battlefield. Queen insect on her own wouldn't be able to defeat Weevil. I guess.
I wonder about the final evolution of the Tama user… if after the rooster comes a transformation in other bird without the ability to fly such as the emperor penguin or ostrichs... or an ancient one defying the flying principle (?) such as the pterodactyl.
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I don't really get the argument that Robin will lose her uniqueness because of the other method to decipher the Poneglyphs, which isn't even a new development as Roger was revealed to decipher them that way 300 chapters ago and we knew he could read them over 500 chapters ago..
One thing I thought about in the Zou Arc, which reentered my mind due to the scene due to it currently being aired on the anime, was how much of an overpowered trump card Robin can seem at times for the Straw Hats. Until the Zou Arc, she was the only one we knew who could read the Poneglyphs, and guess what, it's Poneglyphs you need to get to Raftel. Don't get me wrong, the Straw Hats deserve to have such an ace based on their actions in Enies Lobby. But in light of that, how are we really supposed to view any New World pirate as a viable competitor against Luffy for the title of Pirate King, rather than just living breathing allies/roadblocks? Especially Blackbeard? In conjunction with what I said earlier about the likelihood of the vast amount of talent in the New World giving the ability to decipher Poneglyphs, it makes sense that Oda is having the pirates who are closest to Raftel, Big Mom and Kaido, go to great pains to find this talent…talent that is not easy to come by, mind you. The only reliable options are the small remnants of the family of the original Poneglyph inventors, and a very rare tribe whose presence in the series is nearly nonexistent. Thus, Oda manages to highlight how much Robin's addition is worth to the Straw Hats, while avoiding having her be a crazily overpowered Chekhov's Gun that basically gave the Straw Hats the lone cheat code in an unwinnable game.
Also, another thing comes to mind when thinking about uniqueness: the entire premise of this series is about a guy doing the exact same thing someone else did two decades ago. While Oda thankfully has so far managed to avert the stupid "reincarnation" trope prominent in some shonen manga, Luffy did not set out to do something new under the sun, just leave his mark on the highest level of greatness known to mankind. In a large and expansive world such as this, it would be kind of weird and unrealistic to create such a prominent facet of the world and then make only one person able to actually work with it.
I think this is due to the fact that during a very long time Robin was supposed to be the only one able to read poneglyphs. This was all the object of Water 7/Enies lobby saga. It was really inforced that she was someone unique during a very long time. Then in a short while we have not only Roger and Luffy but also Momo and his father who have this voice of all thing ability, and 2 clans who have the ability to read poneglyphs. So it has a little the smell of a retcon even if it makes sense.
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I think this is due to the fact that during a very long time Robin was supposed to be the only one able to read poneglyphs. This was all the object of Water 7/Enies lobby saga. It was really inforced that she was someone unique during a very long time. Then in a short while we have not only Roger and Luffy but also Momo and his father who have this voice of all thing ability, and 2 clans who have the ability to read poneglyphs. So it has a little the smell of a retcon even if it makes sense.
Her ability has not suddenly become common - Momo is the last remaining Kozuki member and he doesn't know how to do it, Three Eyes are rare, and people who can hear the Voice are rarer. The problem with the idea of her being the sole person who can read the Poneglyphs is that it essentially nullifies anyone else's chances of reaching Raftel. It's not really a retcon, as Oda never stated Robin was the only person who could read the Poneglyphs, she was just the only person the Straw Hats met who could, and we knew Gol D. Roger could do it as well.
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Well when the Roger pirates did learn the void century and the worlds history…Rayleigh said they came to a conclusion...which makes me think like they kind of guessed what the poneglyphs were saying(had written on)..Yea Roger could hear the voice of all things but could he under it for word for word how Robin can? maybe he could only get a short summary and then the Roger pirates came to a conclusion from that.
So, Robin being the only 1 who literally read the poneglyph is far greater than getting a short summary(if that was the case).
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@Kaido:
We've known Roger could understand the Poneglyphs that way for a really long time now. Plus it's not really a shortcut; Three Eyes are rare and others who can hear the Voice are even rarer. Plus they can't use the ability instantaneously, Three Eyes have to work to achieve it and Luffy being unable to understand Zunisha on Zou shows that it doesn't just instantly happen. It's like Devil Fruits, which were incredibly rare in the blues but quite common in the New World. Now that we're in the world's wildest sea, there's bound to be a wider variety of traits and skill sets in its residents. Especially in a Yonko crew like Big Mom's that actively prioritizes diversity of skills.
Roger was the most amazing and famous person in the entire world, so that makes him being an anomaly easier to swallow. But more than that, Roger being able to understand Poneglyphs was presented as a huge reveal, precisely because of the established rules around Robin. A reveal that Robin made sure to reinforce by bringing it up again 200 chapters later. Roger being an anomaly was given incredible weight.
In contrast, Puddings apparent Poneglyph-reading ability is just introduced matter of factly and out of the blue. The excuse of her being a really really rare case may work on a logical level, but on the execution level it doesn't. Who can and cannot read poneglyphs is incredibly important, and now we rapidly learn that not only does an alternate tribe of Poneglyph decoders exist, it turns out this henchman-tier character may have this ability. Without any prior priming of the 3-eyed tribes' specialness, or the existence of alternative deciphering methods, it just comes across as convenient and inorganic.
Yes, the poneglyphs have taken center stage as the key to Raftel, because Oda made it so, and now he's kinda forced to give the Raftel competitors ways of using them. that doesn't mean that the completely utilitarian excecution of Puddings hidden ability is very satisfying.
Thats why I think it devalues Robin; her relationship with Poneglyphs is a core part of her identity, reading them has always been her thing, so having another character intrude on this realm in such a casual and sudden manner feels off. A similar problem happened in Zou, where a huge breakthrough in terms of Poneglyph lore happened, and they recontextualized the entire quest going forward…and Robin had no part in this discovery whatsoever.
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@Daz:
Roger was the most amazing and famous person in the entire world, so that makes him being an anomaly easier to swallow. But more than that, Roger being able to understand Poneglyphs was presented as a huge reveal, precisely because of the established rules around Robin. A reveal that Robin made sure to reinforce by bringing it up again 200 chapters later. Roger being an anomaly was given incredible weight.
In contrast, Puddings apparent Poneglyph-reading ability is just introduced matter of factly and out of the blue. The excuse of her being a really really rare case may work on a logical level, but on the execution level it doesn't. Who can and cannot read poneglyphs is incredibly important, and now we rapidly learn that not only does an alternate tribe of Poneglyph decoders exist, it turns out this henchman-tier character may have this ability. Without any prior priming of the 3-eyed tribes' specialness, or the existence of alternative deciphering methods, it just comes across as convenient and inorganic.
Yes, the poneglyphs have taken center stage as the key to Raftel, because Oda made it so, and now he's kinda forced to give the Raftel competitors ways of using them. that doesn't mean that the completely utilitarian excecution of Puddings hidden ability is very satisfying.
Thats why I think it devalues Robin; her relationship with Poneglyphs is a core part of her identity, reading them has always been her thing, so having another character intrude on this realm in such a casual and sudden manner feels off. A similar problem happened in Zou, where a huge breakthrough in terms of Poneglyph lore happened, and they recontextualized the entire quest going forward…and Robin had no part in this discovery whatsoever.
Except she can't actually read it yet for whatever reason she has to learn to be able to do it. Which is probably why it wasn't such a big reveal. She doesn't actually know how to do it yet. I could imagine that at eh end of this arc, if pudding doesn't defect or whatever, we see her starting to read a poneglyph and she discovers something. Then Robin discovers it for the SH after reading the rubbings or something.
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Learning that Pudding has the potential to read the Poneglyphs is pretty cool actually. On Zou about a million people here complained about why other Big Shots like Kaidou and Big Mom were not after Robin. I argued Kaidou and Doflamingo were already after people who 'should' have been able to read them and now we know that Big Mom is just patiently waiting on Pudding to unlock her hidden ability. I am totally cool with that.
Learning that Luffy was developing his voice of all things, that was what really felt like the devaluation of Robin to me. Though during Fishman Island I figured the interpretation between Luffy and Robin would be very different which will allow them to come to a better conclusion than what Roger's crew came to.
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I think Lola was suppose to marry a 3 eyed guy who actually had the ability unlocked…no wonder BM was so mad when Lola ran away
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If anything, the existence of a super secret clan with baseline voice-of-all-things devalues Roger and Luffy, but not Robin.
I imagine that the info you get with the Voice Of All Things is very basic and still somewhat cryptic, especially when it comes to hearing the voice of a stone. It might be good enough to get some value out of a road Poneglyph (the stone tells me to go…. east..?), but probably not when it comes to Poneglyphs that contain historical information (the stone tells me… THE HEART??).
Robin is still the star once they reach Raftel, and Oda has set that up nicely with Rayleigh questioning the conclusion of the Roger Pirates.That said, Big Mom or Kaido might be content with anything that enables them to reach Raftel, no matter what's waiting for them once they get there.
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I was wondwring if the ability of clan was related to veing able to see, like with the Road Poneglyph, you can see the islands you need to map for the X. On the other hand, with the voice it is something you hear.
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It has been suspiciously silent around Caesar for quite a while now. Besides the Sun Pirate and also, possibly, Capone waiting for their moves, I wonder what kind of guests are supposed to arrive at that tea party.
Considering that the SHs would decide on going through with he party - I think they will [I'm short on time, so I don't mind letting this stand as "just" a guess] - I would absolutely love Pudding to gain the ability to hear the voice of all things right before the bomb detonates into some faces, her three-eyed one included.
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If anything, the existence of a super secret clan with baseline voice-of-all-things devalues Roger and Luffy, but not Robin.
I imagine that the info you get with the Voice Of All Things is very basic and still somewhat cryptic, especially when it comes to hearing the voice of a stone. It might be good enough to get some value out of a road Poneglyph (the stone tells me to go…. east..?), but probably not when it comes to Poneglyphs that contain historical information (the stone tells me… THE HEART??).
Robin is still the star once they reach Raftel, and Oda has set that up nicely with Rayleigh questioning the conclusion of the Roger Pirates.That said, Big Mom or Kaido might be content with anything that enables them to reach Raftel, no matter what's waiting for them once they get there.
Yes, that's what I said too. Robin is still the only one that can get the exact information.
As for BM & Kaidou, I don't think they care about the void century.
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I don't like the way that the 3eyed tribe was presented because we still don't kmow much about the voice of all things, but the secret tribe with an unique ability (like the kuja or how it seemed that the bilikans were mantra experts), that it was an innate ability (with momo) and that the stones could be read with it (with roger and raileigh) were all established, but even with these facts, the reveal didn't feel good or earned.
Maybe if back in zou in the info dump episodes they warmed them that there were other ways to get the info from the stones, its logical that the emperors would be searching such means, that is the most likely reason that kaido decided to go to wano (but then why kill oden??)
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So, have we ever seen Blackbeard's whole forehead? I'm trying to remember, but I think he always wears either a bandana or a tricorn.
I don't know, seems like there could be enough room for an eye.
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So, have we ever seen Blackbeard's whole forehead? I'm trying to remember, but I think he always wears either a bandana or a tricorn.
I don't know, seems like there could be enough room for an eye.
3 devil fruits(cereberus theory), 3 eyes? why not
One Piece ,\/,,
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@Buggy:
3 devil fruits(cereberus theory), 3 eyes? why not
I hate the cerberus theory but 3rd eye might be one of the explanations of how he knows some things. Plus yeah, 3 skulls and we know he's not built the same as regular Joe.
Don't see why it would let him have another devil fruit, though.
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I wonder if VOAT is just the advanced version of COO.
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I hate the cerberus theory but 3rd eye might be one of the explanations of how he knows some things. Plus yeah, 3 skulls and we know he's not built the same as regular Joe.
Don't see why it would let him have another devil fruit, though.
Maybe three eyed people are born as twins and they consume their siblings therefore being "two in one", of he ends up being one, there is pur answer to how he plans to reach Raftel.
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So, have we ever seen Blackbeard's whole forehead? I'm trying to remember, but I think he always wears either a bandana or a tricorn.
I don't know, seems like there could be enough room for an eye.
This IS a genderswapped picture, but I don't think Oda would show his entire forehead if he intended for BB to have a third eye.
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Loved this chapter, brook being like a doll to big mom was nice, and also the learning of pudding's abilities to read this poneglyph soon was also cool. He probably has the thing stuffed in his head since so much was made of this being their only chance. Tamago's abilities look amazing and I doubt that's the last we see of him. Carrot's style was a nice twist on the expected bad artist gag. Pedro's reckless and unwillingness to wait for an enemy power up was awesome and now the animal trio together with presumably Nami and Jinbei to follow makes a midpoint in mirroroworld look more and more likely. Finally it is nice to see Zeff's situation wasnt resolved that easily and luffy knows that sanji knows. Im predicting the meeting between luffy and sanji might be happening earlier than the wedding. But now we've reached a point where some time can elapse.
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I think there will be a discrepancy between relying on VOAT for 'reading' the Poneglyphs and relying on someone who actually studied the ancient language. Rayleigh mentioned that the conclusion to what happened in the Void Century could be different once the SHs reached discovered all the pieces explaining the events. I think this could allow Robin and crew to stumble on a further truth regarding the events that Roger/Rayleigh don't even know since they weren't scholars.
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People who can possibly hear the voice of everything:
1. Shanks (he is probably a D. too.. we have yet to know his full name).
2. Blackbeard (he probably has king's haki too…)
3. Dragon(why not lol).A 3 eye could be among the original Blackeards or Blackeard himself(his Atypical body). Their foreheads are all covered up with hats and Burgess even has a mask. Shiliew or Doc Q seem suspicious to me Laffitte & Augur too.
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Rayleigh mentioned that the conclusion to what happened in the Void Century could be different once the SHs reached discovered all the pieces explaining the events.
This leads to two possibilities:
#1 Roger/Rayleigh couldn't grasp the writings fully on a syntactical and semantic level which might have led to different conclusions.
#2 They actually were able to grasp the writings (be it through VOAT or Oden or whatever) which might have led to different conclusions than the ones the Strawhats will make nevertheless - but in this case the differences are caused by the characters having different personalities, ideologies, morality and core values. (Even if it's only a very small difference between say Luffy and Roger, it could lead to a very different interpretation and conclusion…)I really hope it boils down to #2 as this leads to a way more satisfying grand finale than just Roger/Rayleigh and their crew just not fully getting to tools in order to get the overall message. Instead I want them to have fully gotten the message and the ancient unresolved conflict. However, they just couldn't find any satisfying answer because the conflict just isn't that trivial that it can be solved just by knowing all the Poneglyphs' text. Therefore the final component will be the Strawhats' characters and personalities.
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The three eyed tribe is just a shortcut to The Voice of all things. People can have it without being from that tribe.
I guess that will go to the backlog now, next to the bloodline elements, uranus and the moon.
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I think pants less reiju cemented her self as the hottest female in One Piece. :wub:
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The three eyed tribe is just a shortcut to The Voice of all things. People can have it without being from that tribe.
I guess that will go to the backlog now, next to the bloodline elements, uranus and the moon.
Or despite not hearing the voice of all things, big mom acquired the "All seeing eye" perhaps…
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After checking again, I think what Sanji meant this chaoter may not be what we think it meant.
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I don't like the way that the 3eyed tribe was presented because we still don't kmow much about the voice of all things, but the secret tribe with an unique ability (like the kuja or how it seemed that the bilikans were mantra experts), that it was an innate ability (with momo) and that the stones could be read with it (with roger and raileigh) were all established, but even with these facts, the reveal didn't feel good or earned.
Maybe if back in zou in the info dump episodes they warmed them that there were other ways to get the info from the stones, its logical that the emperors would be searching such means, that is the most likely reason that kaido decided to go to wano (but then why kill oden??)
It really is the execution rather than the actual info IMO. On top of what you said, it probably feels odd given we just learned last arc of another tribe that can shortcut their way to reading Poneglyphs. Now it's just bombardment of people/groups that can read Poneglyphs.
Don't misunderstand, I understand that it makes sense for more than just one group/person to have that ability, it just was presented in a flat manner with little to no foreshadowing.
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I am going to be in the minority here but: Oden could not read the poneglyphs.
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Let's just stop for a second and think that the only person that we know for sure can or could extract information from poneglyphs thanks to the Voice of All Things was Gol D Roger. Besides him, we know Luffy and Momo can hear the VOAT, but, despite that, they've never heard a poneglyph "speak" (Momo and Luffy heard Zunisha, but not the Road Poneglyph it carries, and Luffy has been around other glyphs and paid them no mind). Pudding has the potential to awaken the VOAT "hearing" thanks to the 3rd eye from a special tribe, but we don't even know how many members of said tribe still exist today, how the eye's power awakens, and how, after learning to listen to the VOAT, one can understand the glyph (we know it's not immediate due to Luffy's and Momo's cases). So, in the end, there is no reason to think any kind of Poneglyph reading is cheapened, especially Robin, who has a far superior advantage, by actually being able to read the damn text. Although there was also another family who could read the texts, the knowledge was restricted to something like 3-5 people per generation and has been lost completely due to Kaido killing Oden. So yes, Robin remains really special, with her reading ability and the immense historical and "poneglyphical" knowledge she has accumulated, that can help her put together the Rio Poneglyph, something that no other party can even dream of (Big Mom and Kaido appear to be only actively after the Road Glyphs, which, if the Rio Poneglyph corresponds to the One Piece or something similar, makes their quest really dumb when they reach Raftel and find out they need 9 other stones to put their prize together).
On the other hand, I can respect and even agree with the feeling that the presentation was a bit wonky and cheapens the reveal. I actually think it's been One Piece's problem since Marineford. The story quality and everything is still there, but the way it's panneled, paced, and presented just hasn't been working as well as it used to back in the "good old glory days".
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@Tamiel:
I am going to be in the minority here but: Oden could not read the poneglyphs.
I'm not so sure, someone had to know it to had written it on skypea, and Kaido needs a reason for attacking Wano.
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After checking again, I think what Sanji meant this chaoter may not be what we think it meant.
The first time I read it on MS I thought Sanji meant there's no turning back now
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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@Long:
The first time I read it on MS I thought Sanji meant there's no turning back now
But did he said for what?
Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it. Even if something can be known about it,
