Where is the logic in this? I mean, granted, middle schoolers are pretty impressionable but we can't just go denying history now. What? Are we not going to teach them about slavery because it was racist? All about the context in which you present the information.
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Where is the logic in this? I mean, granted, middle schoolers are pretty impressionable but we can't just go denying history now. What? Are we not going to teach them about slavery because it was racist? All about the context in which you present the information.
Maybe it would be better to wait a couple of years? At least until junior high, I mean kids should be equipped with the means to understand injustice this way when they actually manage to process it like adults.
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Maybe it would be better to wait a couple of years? At least until junior high, I mean kids should be equipped with the means to understand injustice this way when they actually manage to process it like adults.
Uh, Kids. Well, kids do think and understand things. You know?
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Uh, Kids. Well, kids do think and understand things. You know?
Yeah I know, I'm not trying to undermine their mental strength. I just think it takes some deeper reflection than just displays off facts, in order for kids to make sense out of these situations ( especially for african americans, who may find something really lifechanging about these notions ). In younger years there are rarely reflective and critical texts written, it's usually just ''this happened then'', ''he did that'' etc.
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Maybe it would be better to wait a couple of years? At least until junior high, I mean kids should be equipped with the means to understand injustice this way when they actually manage to process it like adults.
Middle School = Junior High.
Shinpanman was saying Middle Schoolers should be able to learn about history for all its glories and faults because it's not perfect and there should be no denying that. As someone who has worked with Middle School students for 3 years now (and mostly African-American), though not on a daily basis, I can say they are most certainly mature enough to properly handle/process this information.
So yeah, Junior High/Middle School is a good age to properly go in depth and not just give out facts about racial history. Though, even before that age I think it's wise to teach kids about the facts and influences of race in history, so they don't enter Junior High/Middle School completely ignorant of the subject besides what they learned at home which could be…anything.
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Here's a laugh.
Some neo-nazi or another on Stormfront made a map of whiteness.!
I'm not going to spoil the silliest things on here among the many silly things that should be self evident.
Bask in the retardation of racists and how even among the dyed in the wool racists "white" is a bizarre code for "people I accept and don't accept" that vaguely attaches to skin tone. -
Well as usual ignorance and meaningless intolerance rears it's ugly head.
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the best way to stop racism is stopping speaking about it and ignore it
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the best way to stop racism is stopping speaking about it and ignore it
This only "works" when you aren't a target.
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the best way to stop racism is stopping speaking about it and ignore it
Is this sarcasm/satire? I'm not even trying to be offensive, I'm just curious.
Because never in the history of mankind has any widespread issue gone away by simply "stop speaking about it" and "ignoring it"
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the best way to stop racism is stopping speaking about it and ignore it
I see/hear no racism so therefore it will inevitably go away. Ignorance must be…Bliss
! unless your post was sarcastic, I hereby deem you a hopeless twit
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@Monkey:
In the end its about populists being across the board con artists promising economic aid that they promptly turn into cronyism and upper class welfare, because the center right has turned a segment of the population into self harming crazy people voting against their own interests.
You're right because so far this is happening actually, trump is filling his cabinet with rich men and women. The richest ever I've heard.
But then again, we also have banks being bailed out which is another issue.
USA as a whole is in huge debt, artificially low interest rates which are obviously unsustainable and the massive trade deficits there are each year.People just need to wait for Trump to see what he really can do. He's always complained about bad decisions throughout the years, now he's in the seat.
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It's amazingly arrogant and stupid to declare that some are "voting against their interests". As if you're the only one with the right to declare what those interests are.
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Counties that heavily rely on European subsidies voting for Brexit vote against their interests.
Southern states that heavily rely on federal subsidies voting for a Republican vote against their interest.
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Again, arrogant and stupid.
Also the UK pays far more than they ever get back.
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One could say the same about black communities in USA, where more than 90% of their vote goes to the democratic party because they actually think Obama is helping them.
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More than 90% of the black vote goes to the Democrats because the GOP thinks black people shouldn't be allowed to vote, belong in jail and calls BLM a terrorist organization. Among other reasons.
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One could say the same about black communities in USA, where more than 90% of their vote goes to the democratic party because they actually think Obama is helping them.
As opposed to the Republican party which
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@Bilbo:
It's amazingly arrogant and stupid to declare that some are "voting against their interests". As if you're the only one with the right to declare what those interests are.
Interests such as what person probably too young to worry yet about such things?
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More than 90% of the black vote goes to the Democrats because the GOP thinks black people shouldn't be allowed to vote, belong in jail and calls BLM a terrorist organization. Among other reasons.
When you have BLM supporters running around the streets trying to jump and threaten to kill all whites (on video), murdering innocent cops in retaliation, not to mention people like Richard Fowler jumping to conclusions before anyone has facts of a white cop vs black guy death saying people shouldn't wait for justice, they should just riot I think it's a problematic organisation.
Imagine a few white guys running around saying they want to kill all blacks, that would be all over the news in seconds. We even have BLM supporters saying they can't be racist.
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When you have BLM supporters running around the streets trying to jump and threaten to kill all whites (on video), murdering innocent cops in retaliation, not to mention people like Richard Fowler jumping to conclusions before anyone has facts of a white cop vs black guy death saying people shouldn't wait for justice, they should just riot I think it's a problematic organisation.
Yes, let's take the fringe elements and a lone wolf shooter and just throw all blanket them under the insidious BLM label.
Hey how much do you care about the police shooting innocent black people and getting away with it without even a real trial?
Imagine a few white guys running around saying they want to kill all blacks, that would be all over the news in seconds.
We don't have to imagine that as we've seen that kind of vitriol spouted at Trump rallies for the past 18 months. And "the news" always made sure to cover it as people being economically anxious.
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When you have BLM supporters running around the streets trying to jump and threaten to kill all whites (on video), murdering innocent cops in retaliation, .
Where the fuck are you seeing any of this.
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Yes, let's take the fringe elements and a lone wolf shooter and just throw all blanket them under the insidious BLM label.
Hey how much do you care about the police shooting innocent black people and getting away with it without even a real trial?
We don't have to imagine that as we've seen that kind of vitriol spouted at Trump rallies for the past 18 months. And "the news" always made sure to cover it as people being economically anxious.
People can't even name the last white or hispanic guys killed by white cops. There are significantly higher rates of whites being killed by cops than there are black, but I don't see a WLM movement.
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People can't even name the last white or hispanic guys killed by white cops. There are significantly higher rates of whites being killed by cops than there are black, but I don't see a WLM movement.
You do know that there are more white people in America than black people, right?
Even if the number of white people being killed in police shootings is higher than that for black people, it's the percentages that matter. And the percentages show that black people are targeted and killed by police at a much higher rate than any other demographic.
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@Cyan:
Where the fuck are you seeing any of this.
I stumbled across this last night.
At 3:05, tell me if thats right and not racist.
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People can't even name the last white or hispanic guys killed by white cops. There are significantly higher rates of whites being killed by cops than there are black, but I don't see a WLM movement.
Then white people should speak out about it. They don't.
Nobody even the blue lives matter trolls made a peep when a bunch of white guys killed some cops a couple months ago.
BLM stood up for that white kid that got shot by cops around one of their rallies.
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You do know that there are more white people in America than black people, right?
Even if the number of white people being killed in police shootings is higher than that for black people, it's the percentages that matter. And the percentages show that black people are targeted and killed by police at a much higher rate than any other demographic.
[qimg]https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3591318/police_shooting_by_race.0.png[/qimg]](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.743bb959b464)
Which is true, they are a much smaller demographic. But of the cops that are killed, 40% are from black. Blacks are such a small demographic and they represent 40% of the killed cops.
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I've got two conflicting minds on that whole mess. On a bigger picture scale i understand it perfectly. But on a more personal and insignificant scale i always wonder if it's ever any comfort to a guy who was viciously beaten or even killed, that his demographic is statistically less likely to be beaten or killed. Or that the beating he just suffered is actually semi-warranted due to the fact that somebody in your demographic did something to another demographic.
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Or that the beating he just suffered is actually semi-warranted due to the fact that somebody in your demographic did something to another demographic.
Literally no one ever says that.
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Which is true, they are a much smaller demographic. But of the cops that are killed, 40% are from black. Blacks are such a small demographic and they represent 40% of the killed cops.
Hmm, it's almost like an oppressed people are more likely to fight back against their oppressors. But you wouldn't understand that, being a member of a One Piece forum or anything.
Or are you implying that black people are just more primitive and violent?
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@Cyan:
Meanwhile, Army Corps says "No" to the DAPL.
Do you not know what "Black Power" actually means and what its history is.
What does black power have to do with people running in a street specifically targeting whites violently?
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Hmm, it's almost like an oppressed people are more likely to fight back against their oppressors. But you wouldn't understand that, being a member of a One Piece forum or anything.
Is US really worse today than it was in the 60's?
Also, if we look at the statistics of blacks killed by cops, majority had a gun, armed and threatened the officer.
Then again, considering the fact that the small demographic in which the blacks are contribute to more than 50% of the crime, it's no wonder policeman encounter more blacks.
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Then again, considering the fact that the small demographic in which the blacks are contribute to more than 50% of the crime, it's no wonder policeman encounter more blacks.
Oh, that's right, because violent crime in the community and police killings are perfectly correlated, right SuburbanErrorist?
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When you have BLM supporters running around the streets trying to jump and threaten to kill all whites (on video)
I can probably find a citizen of whatever country your from saying something bad. And therefore your county is a horrible hellhole of monstrous subhumans bent on evildoing (ON VIDEO).
Imagine a few white guys running around saying they want to kill all blacks, that would be all over the news in seconds.
Right wing foreigner acting like he watches average American media post #35.
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Oh, that's right, because violent crime in the community and police killings are perfectly correlated, right SuburbanErrorist?
Who said it needed to be related to killings? All I said was that they would be engaging more blacks.
Cops get to a situation because they are called by someone within their own community.
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@Cyan:
Literally no one ever says that.
It's more of an implication that i see from time to time.
Where random acts of violence can be framed as understandable due to what the community has suffered through.
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Black Power is as racist as White Power. Anyone who uses it is a racist. Just because the former has been tolerated moreso than the latter doesn't mean diddly squat. But please, keep doubling down if you want.
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Guttentag fellow Yankee! I am watching last night the CN and N, and is many reportings of dark men eating the cops but being described as act of defense??
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@Bilbo:
Black Power is as racist as White Power.
Black power is the same as Italian pride or Irish pride, or also Southern pride, because black Americans in the sense of slave descendents actually make up a specific community. White people do not.
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Who said it needed to be related to killings? All I said was that they would be engaging more blacks.
Cops get to a situation because they are called by someone within their own community.
That's right! I forgot that stop and frisk happens only when a concerned citizen calls a cop over to check out that totally harmless guy in the black hoodie. And traffic stops, yeah those too.
It's amazing how the police are able to respond in under a minute in these situations. Almost as if they were already on the spot and did the stop themselves without receiving a call from someone in the community.
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@Bilbo:
Black Power is as racist as White Power.
Yes, the rallying cry of a long-struggling civil rights movement that advocates black confidence and self-sufficiency is equal to the rallying cry of drunk morons in hoods.
And don't get me started on the horrors done in the name of Red Power…
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@Monkey:
I can probably find a citizen of whatever country your from saying something bad. And therefore your county is a horrible hellhole of monstrous subhumans bent on evildoing (ON VIDEO).
Right wing foreigner acting like he watches average American media post #35.
I don't vote for anyone, had to pay a fine for it in Australia also since it's compulsory. I never said any country is horrible. When a cop shoots a suspect, if the suspect is black it's "White cop kills black" on the news, that's all it takes for BLM to act.
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@Cyan:
Yes, the rallying cry of a long-struggling civil rights movement that advocates black confidence and self-sufficiency is equal to the rallying cry of drunk morons in hoods.
Racism is racism, plain and simple. Either you support it or oppose it.
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Who said it needed to be related to killings? All I said was that they would be engaging more blacks.
Cops get to a situation because they are called by someone within their own community.
Or you know. Overly pointlessly scared white people see a black person out of bounds and call the cops.
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That's right! I forgot that stop and frisk happens only when a concerned citizen calls a cop over to check out that totally harmless guy in the black hoodie. And traffic stops, yeah those too.
It's amazing how the police are able to respond in under a minute in these situations. Almost as if they were already on the spot and did the stop themselves without receiving a call from someone in the community.
Most of the time, you'll find the person resisting arrest. Look, there are cases in which the cop with no reason kills who they are dealing with, I forget the names but it has happened when cops indiscriminately killed blacks and all the evidence lies against the cops.
But to start a movement like this? Where are black lives matter with over 6000 blacks killed in black on black crime?
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I don't vote for anyone, had to pay a fine for it in Australia also since it's compulsory. I never said any country is horrible. When a cop shoots a suspect, if the suspect is black it's "White cop kills black" on the news, that's all it takes for BLM to act.
What's this???
surveys entire earth history
You mean to say that when minority populations are policed by majority populations that heavy tensions exist and lots of friction occurs??No actually the Yankee Afro men are unique cases of whining babies who deserve their harsh law enforcement.
But to start a movement like this? Where are black lives matter with over 6000 blacks killed in black on black crime?
Good point Crocodile Dundee, no one has ever made an issue out of that in the black community or any community, your research and education on this topic has been thorough and well done.
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I don't vote for anyone, had to pay a fine for it in Australia also since it's compulsory. I never said any country is horrible. When a cop shoots a suspect, if the suspect is black it's "White cop kills black" on the news, that's all it takes for BLM to act.
Cops being called to the scene shouldn't mean there's a 80% chance they're going to use excessive force or kill the person they are trying to detain. These cops are shooting people in the back. They have fucking tasers that they seem to forget about.
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@Bilbo:
Racism is racism, plain and simple. Either you support it or oppose it.
Ok, so where's the racism in the black power description Cyan gave.
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Most of the time, you'll find the person resisting arrest. Look, there are cases in which the cop with no reason kills who they are dealing with, I forget the names but it has happened when cops indiscriminately killed blacks and all the evidence lies against the cops.
But to start a movement like this? Where are black lives matter with over 6000 blacks killed in black on black crime?
You're right, buddy. I defer to your judgment. Clearly, as someone who actually lives in this country I'm too close to the issue to be able to wrap my head around it.
Also Australians don't ever have problems with bigoted police in their communities, right?
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What's funny is that police in Africa are well known for their use of brutality, torture, and summary executions. Somebody should tell them that Black Lives Matter.
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@Bilbo:
What's funny is that police in Africa are well known for their use of brutality, torture, and summary executions. Somebody should tell them that Black Lives Matter.
This is perhaps the stupidest post yet.
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@Bilbo:
What's funny is that police in Africa are well known for their use of brutality, torture, and summary executions. Somebody should tell them that Black Lives Matter.
Sorry Bilbo, but Black Lives Matter is a movement in the United States of America. The USA being located in North America and not Africa.
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This is perhaps the stupidest post yet.
Economically frustrated post. Please.