Chapter 41, page 4 (part of volume 5)
AM: I too was born Quirkless.
I don't buy that youtuber's theory for a second :P
Chapter 41, page 4 (part of volume 5)
AM: I too was born Quirkless.
I don't buy that youtuber's theory for a second :P
I generally don't agree with the game theory guys, because they generally start with a controversial conclusion and then work their proof around it. Mostly just posted it cause relevant.
Still pretty impressed by their Breath of the Wild timeline video though. Yellow stripes on the hats is pretty good.
I don't think the film/game theory channel are suppose to be that serious. They are just there to have you go yeaaah maybe that could work. At least that is the impression I always got from them. Kind of like cinemasins isn't really doing a movie critic.
I totally blocked out that he was quirkless. I guess I just found it more interesting if he just had a useless rather than conveniently be like Deku.
Before I let my brain explode, is this a real collaboration or just some TV special with MHA characters gushing over Infinity War clips?
On a side note looks at posters Bakugou is Star Lord? Aizawa's Winter Soldier, love it! Uravity's Black Panther, not Black Widow. Nice.
Tsuyu as Drax is probably my favorite thing
I generally don't agree with the game theory guys, because they generally start with a controversial conclusion and then work their proof around it. Mostly just posted it cause relevant.
Still pretty impressed by their Breath of the Wild timeline video though. Yellow stripes on the hats is pretty good.
It's all just in fun. It's fun to see how things can be connected, even if they're totally wrong.
Happy belated 500 pages!
Oh wow! 500!
Also I like that dual promotion. So cool.
Lost my train of thought. I wonder if Horikoshi is going to update Bakugou's look. I feel he's drawing the gauntlets less. They are majorly bulky.
Getting rid of those grenade gauntlets would be a shame since I love how his entire costume is bomb-themed in different ways. His explosion-themed domino mask in particular is one of the coolest superhero domino masks I've ever seen and could have easily been much more generic. A bunch of the hero costumes like Deku, Shouto, Momo, etc. don't communicate much about the characters' abilities/background/ethics/personality and instead focus on having arbitrary attire styling and maybe a random tool or two to empower Quirks that you wouldn't know about from first glance.
Bakugo, Tsuyu, Sero, and Iida's costumes are at the top for me since they have both unique style and clever semiotics.
I'm mixed on the gauntlets. They are cool in theme and being able to store up sweat…ew, and other people can use them, but not overly practical. They don't seem to durable. Very bulky. But he's not really the type who should be fighting in cramped areas. I dunno. Kirishima, Deku, Kaminari and Todoroki (although his is boring) got some updates. I'd just like to see his upgraded. But I suppose it depends on if he can train himself to not need the gauntlets.
Maybe the gauntlets could get reshaped into flat forearm shields? Sort of like Cap's gray Infinity War shields but probably a bit bigger. It would keep the grenade shape in a 2D way and even connect to character development in learning how to protect people rather than only defeat enemies.
Hmm yeah. He really hasn't protected anyone. Aside from Deku most costume changes were just a little offside comment. I suppose we could get something like that.
Pretty much all the girls have costumes that I wouldn't change. Although I'm sad Mina couldn't do her Alien Queen idea lol. Maybe if she's the mole she can swap it out lol.
I for the life of me can't figure out why Mineta thought a clunky diaper would score him chicks.
Tentacle and Anima need something more interesting. I can't even picture their costumes.
Biggest costume improvement so far (besides Izuku's) is Denki's ranged attack equipment that he used against Shishikura.
One of the volumes also had a page talking about how Kirishima's shoulder gear got…bulkier or something. Yeah there's not much so far.
Jirou's new glove-speakers are pretty cool but Kaminari definitely wins the support item race right now.
Is there a break for MHA this week?
Nope! Next chapter comes out Monday.
On a much much stupider note, official English title for the video game is:
"My Hero One's Justice"
https://readms.net/r/my_hero_academia/179/5017/1
No. Thats alright. Make me like Gentle more please.
omg why is this fight so good? Gentle is a brilliant villain, I love it.
Why didn't he just made the floor soft instead of jumping it like a trampoline?
I'm really really really really really really really hoping that this means the fight will get interrupted so Gentle can escape.
It's all but guaranteed.
They've been foreshadowing Hound Dog's involvement since this arc began!
Judging from the posts so far, i guess i am the only one who finds this all pretty ridiculous…
Go Gentle Go!!
I do wish he succeeds.
I never thought Gentle would end being relatable, it doesn´t justify what he is trying to do, but it makes me like him more.
Judging from the posts so far, i guess i am the only one who finds this all pretty ridiculous…
Pretty boring to me.
The fight is messy. Hard to follow the movements. It's a shame because the quirk combination could provide for an incredible fight, with so many tricks and feints from Gentle's side. The flashbacks in between kill the pacing. I know Horikoshi can do better.
I'm aware it's not about the fight, it's about the emotions and clash of wills. But the way in which context for Gentle's behavior is given is very lacking. So not liking it that much.
So gentle is just pissed he couldn't become an hero and has resolved to be a dick to be known because ultimately recognition is the only thing that matters to him.
Yep that flashback just make me like him less. That's the kind argument people were using for why McBoom would turn evil and I said he wasn't that petty. Someone that petty isn't someone I can bother to root for.
Maybe he will join the league to get it.
Gentle still isn't evil though. He's just on the wrong path. He definitely needed better guidance. I do feel bad for him. It's a dumb reason overall. But I still like him as a character. I like that this series has more mundane reasonings for people doing bad stuff. When you have so many people with special abilities it makes sense to not have everyone with a tragic backstory.
The game looks kinda blah. But I'm stoked about DBZ Fighterz so I want more fighting anime games in that format or at least Guilty Gear level lol.
I really want Gentle to win this one, if only to see what his plan actually is, and it doesn't help that Deku's motivation is so superficial, even if he's the one on the ethical side.
Gentle won't get everything going his way though, he'll either not achieve popularity in the end, or somehow end up achieving it by saving UA from a more dangerous villain or something.
So gentle is just pissed he couldn't become an hero and has resolved to be a dick to be known because ultimately recognition is the only thing that matters to him.
Yep that flashback just make me like him less. That's the kind argument people were using for why McBoom would turn evil and I said he wasn't that petty. Someone that petty isn't someone I can bother to root for.
Maybe he will join the league to get it.
It was obvious, I mean after all, like other youtubers; Gentle seeks views.
Joking aside, there's a pretty big and critical difference between Gentle and other villains, which is instead of becoming a full-fledged bad guy, he decided to only do "righteous" crimes that sends messages to people without harming anybody.
I really want Gentle to win this one, if only to see what his plan actually is, and it doesn't help that Deku's motivation is so superficial, even if he's the one on the ethical side.
I definitely disagree. Gentle is seeking views and popularity while Deku is trying to have his stressful comrades(that had to suffer constant raid from mass murderers) and a traumatized child(that lived in the dark for months/years and forgot to smile) one day they can relax.
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Gentle still isn't evil though. He's just on the wrong path. He definitely needed better guidance. I do feel bad for him. It's a dumb reason overall. But I still like him as a character. I like that this series has more mundane reasonings for people doing bad stuff. When you have so many people with special abilities it makes sense to not have everyone with a tragic backstory.
I am not saying he is evil(that would be Facepalm or the Alchemist) just that such petiness makes me less interested in him. I'm still surprise he is that low in terms of views. I would think kids or adolescents would be super into it. I wonder what interest youngsters in this world.
I'd like to know why exactly he was so bad in school. Going by common sense, if he had it in him, he would toughen up, train more and overcome his weakness, one way or the other. Yeah, I know real life doesn't work like that, but the dude has magical powers, which he can now use pretty well. So the potential was always there.
So he just comes off as a failure. A mature guy who is having trouble dealing with a kid. Even after a boost from his younger looking girlfriend. That last part also doesn't help his image, really.
I know Deku is strong, but Gentle was shown messing up multiple heroes at once just couple of chapters back. Wish it was all better thought out.
I think the fight choreography itself is really cool, some of the best that has happened in this series. I look forward to Gentle losing and going to jail though. As unfortunate as his life is he is just being petty and selfish. A very ungentlemanly criminal
Wanting to be famous is a powerful incentive. Ask anyone in the entertainment industry. Or, in this case, a hero. We've seen heroes or students do what they do for less than noble reasons. I feel sorry for Gentle. If people like Mineta or Captain Celebrity can be heroes so can he. But, I do agree Hirokoshi still has trouble drawing fight scenes. Not horrible but if he made it easier to understand what's happening it'd be godly.
I wouldn't even call Gentle a criminal. He's a vigilante. These are the type of stories My Hero Vigilantes should be telling.
I'd like to know why exactly he was so bad in school. Going by common sense, if he had it in him, he would toughen up, train more and overcome his weakness, one way or the other. Yeah, I know real life doesn't work like that, but the dude has magical powers, which he can now use pretty well. So the potential was always there.
So he just comes off as a failure. A mature guy who is having trouble dealing with a kid. Even after a boost from his younger looking girlfriend. That last part also doesn't help his image, really.
I know Deku is strong, but Gentle was shown messing up multiple heroes at once just couple of chapters back. Wish it was all better thought out.
I'm assuming:
1. His hero school was crappy/didn't have the resources or personnel to help struggling students.
2. He eventually would've succeed if not for his expulsion.
That all brings into question how old can you be to take a hero exam and how clean your criminal record must be?
I would assume there's no age limit as long as you're fit enough and whatnot to take the exam. As for a criminal record…No idea. Do cops have to be squeaky clean to qualify? I assume it only hinders in terms of promotions or positions where there's an election.
He does seem to have poor judgment or at least some klutzy aspects, so maybe that took over when he was doing the exam. Or maybe his need to be center stage was deemed too selfish.
I started following the manga again a few weeks ago because I read Aoyama got development and that baited me back in.
Anyways, Gentle and La Brava a real charismatic duo and this is something that is bothering me terribly in the last chapters. Deku is finally being proactive, stepping into the center of the stage and taking action as we would expect a main character to do… and all I can think is how frustrating it is.
I mean, I suppose all the readers are really anxious to see what Gentle has planned to do at the festival and we are all engaged to his character and Deku actions are actually feeling like they are preventing the plot from moving to the point we want it to go. Every time he gets up and shows he is not defeated, I can't help but feel frustrated and I definitely don't think that's how it was supposed to be. I just want him to go away so we can go back to Gentle and La Brava development.
I'm sure animation will do this fight justice and actually make it easier to follow. Not like such dynamic action is a bad thing, but imho the only thing that sticks out atm are the standstill shots like the last panel with Gentle and Deku clashing fists.
Poor, poor misguided Gentle. On one side, his backstory makes him really relatable, on the other it makes it even more obvious how wrong his current path is.
Also, where did we see this Hound Dog guy before? Do I need to reread parts? Because I have no recollection at all about this guy, first time I'm consciously noticing this character :o
So gentle is just pissed he couldn't become an hero and has resolved to be a dick to be known because ultimately recognition is the only thing that matters to him
But this isn't about just not being a hero
Gentel is doing this because he doesn't want to die as a poor man that nobody remember, he wants to be a inspiration to someone or at least be remember for something.
This is like saying that Deku and the others were acting like dicks in the Licence exam when they destroyed the dreams of other students, one of them even begged to Deku. This is important to him, just like being a hero is important for all this kids.
I'm sure animation will do this fight justice and actually make it easier to follow. Not like such dynamic action is a bad thing, but imho the only thing that sticks out atm are the standstill shots like the last panel with Gentle and Deku clashing fists.
Poor, poor misguided Gentle. On one side, his backstory makes him really relatable, on the other it makes it even more obvious how wrong his current path is.
Also, where did we see this Hound Dog guy before? Do I need to reread parts? Because I have no recollection at all about this guy, first time I'm consciously noticing this character :o
Hound Dog appear when they introduced Mirio, at the beginning of Overhaul´s arc.
BTW, this time I don´t really see the problem at all with the fight choreography, I think this is easily one of the best fight scenes in this series. I mean, it is pretty clear what is happening all the time.
I wouldn't even call Gentle a criminal. He's a vigilante. These are the type of stories My Hero Vigilantes should be telling.
I would hardly call any of Gentle's actions worthy of being called a vigilante. He commits petty crimes under the pretense of a righteous cause but really it's just for some youtube views to fuel his ego/dead dream. He even said in this chapter he's willing to step on others dream just to accomplish it. Totally villainous.
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I just want him to go away so we can go back to Gentle and La Brava development.
Exactly. Something about this whole fight feels broken/wrong.
Deku is the hero and fighting righteously, yet he's coming off as an annoying pest.
It doesn't help that Gentle and La Brava are being given so many good guy tropes.
Power of love? Tearful support? Dreams?
They do not feel like the kind of people I WANT to see beaten or thrown in prison.
If anything, I want them to be a long running duo like Isaac and Miria from Baccano!
Criminals, yes, but ultimately harmless and humorous.
That's the perfect word for this encounter. Frustrating. The little blurb says conclusion next chapter. Not sure if that's just a scanlation note that has no basis though. But man yeah, it's super weird to root against the good guys lol. I just wanna see what they could do. I feel like Eri might like them for whatever reason.
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It doesn't help that Gentle and La Brava are being given so many good guy tropes.
Power of love? Tearful support? Dreams?
They do not feel like the kind of people I WANT to see beaten or thrown in prison
I think that is pretty much what the author wants you to feel, I mean, with Overhaul he never show this kind of stuff because he didn't want you to empathize with him.
It's a fight of convictions, I personally don't see neither of them as bad. Gentel never hurt anybody and Deku just want his friends and Eri to have a good time, I don´t see how Deku is an "annoying pest" right now.
I'd like to know why exactly he was so bad in school. Going by common sense, if he had it in him, he would toughen up, train more and overcome his weakness, one way or the other. Yeah, I know real life doesn't work like that, but the dude has magical powers, which he can now use pretty well. So the potential was always there.
So he just comes off as a failure. A mature guy who is having trouble dealing with a kid. Even after a boost from his younger looking girlfriend. That last part also doesn't help his image, really.
I know Deku is strong, but Gentle was shown messing up multiple heroes at once just couple of chapters back. Wish it was all better thought out.
Multiple random amateur heroes that are probably fodder on the level of that dumb cultural appropriating Native guy Stain should have tried to kill. Or that one hero that got taken by a pipe when he tried chasing down a few mooks who robbed an ATM machine or something during Twice's backstory chapter.
This series introduced a bunch of the top level heroes much more early on than how the average shonen series builds up to showing its biggest players. One reason why is probably to show how much hero society relied on All-Might as a symbolic deterrent and how pathetic the average random hero actually is on an offensive level. I would chalk it up to being similar to how the Genin main characters in Naruto Part 1 were stronger than all of the Chunin we saw. The next generation is just that talented, and at least Deku is being trained by the best hero in the best hero school.
I really like how Gentle isn't being portrayed as an unstoppable force of nature compared to Deku like Shouto, Muscular, and Overhaul. It's less predictably "new villain has a stronger power level" and more "each villain has different stats and specialties" and gives credit to how much Deku has grown (fights where the villain looks like the underdog can be very compelling if written right).
As for Gentle's motivation… yeah, it's shallow. Wanting to become famous and vaguely inspire people could be given plenty more depth if there were more specific productive end goals for Gentle, like if he would use his fame to help people or feeling that he can help teach society a valuable moral that is too undervalued. But this chapter's clincher about him feeling crushed when a classmate we never even saw him talk to beforehand forgot about him cements him looking selfish to me. Especially when we don't know why he failed, which makes him look like he didn't try hard enough. Getting ousted for savings embody with his Quirk was very sympathetic, but that was only the final nail in the coffin after already being terrible for reasons we don't know. So the only assumption we can make is that he's a bad student academically or lacks competency on the field. And the latter can't be it given his proficiency in this fight with his Gomu Gomu no Awakening Quirk.
But I actually don't mind the idea of Gentle only being into these antics for the fame. It can work in a Darkwing Duck way. Where he might often be doing the right selfless deeds for the wrong selfish reasons, which could be interesting. Basically lighthearted Endeavor that has some semblance of compassion and finds the law too confining. Like Baroness said, mundane reasons can work for certain villains. Mainly if their schemes are low level and/or petty, which definitely describes Gentle. I would only complain about something like this if it were Shigaraki's secret backstory, somebody who's likely supposed to be building up into this series' endgame protagonist and has character development literally spanking him for originally acting childish. But if you're going to do that, play it straight. Have those villains own their pettiness with love-to-hate glee. But Gentle and La Brava are instead being portrayed as having charismatic depth and motivations, which is where some issues are coming up for me in how they're being executed.
For instance, I feel La Brava's stalker behavior should have been appropriately emphasized as being creepy instead of her only looking like a poor lost misunderstood soul, but still getting in a bit of sympathy in showing how she doesn't really know any better and isn't purposefully malicious. And making the guy he was stalking seem like a jerk instead of someone who was reasonably put off by her. Don't get me wrong, his comments were still harsh and I felt a little bad for La Brava, but I don't really like the framing it's going for in having her look solely like a victim. Stalking is wrong whether the perpetrator is cute or not. I've seen other stories handle having a character like this look sympathetic and understandable while still not making their behavior look innocently justified.
I would prefer a balance between sympathetic circumstances and flawed habits with this villain duo. They can still be as endearing as they are now, but with more focus put on how they're still deserving of their villain labels. And not just because they actively defy the law, but how their ethics are portrayed. Like maybe digging more into La Brava's being more of a blind fangirl desperately trying not to be alone than actually being truly in love (and not just as a quirky personality gag, but as a serious flaw), and Gentle using her presence as a convenient tool to stroke his ego that he's been compensating for since flunking hero school as opposed to actually reciprocating her feelings. Basically, they're more so being crutches that are filling insecurities rather than really caring about each other, and they don't even realize it by using their selfless schemes as excuses to make themselves think they're true heroes/lovers. Then from there after whatever happens to them in this arc, they might finally get character development to become a less dysfunctional and truly heartfelt couple as they come to terms with taking responsibility for their negligent mistakes (Gentle realizing that he might have actually deserved to be expelled and might have still made it in school if he at least put in the effort to maintain good grades could actually be a very powerful moment) while striving for responsible change in their relationship/heroics. Assuming they will appear again after this arc, which I bet will happen given how much fun Horikoshi is obvious having with them.
Deku calling out Gentle for disregarding the U.A. students' dreams is okay, but I need more specific criticism than just "me and friends' dreams of being happy are more important than your dream of being happy". A conflict which makes it seem like both of their motivations are valid to some degree, Even though I would argue Gentle's dream isn't valid. At all. I was expecting more of a focus on Deku having to combat Gentle's perspective about U.A. acting too vulnerable for trivial formal events, which he actually outright states in Chapter 174. But that hasn't been brought up at any time since this fight started, only Gentle's craving for publicity is being remarked. That would work much better if Horikoshi wants Gentle to look like a morally complex character I like to root for as much as or even more than Deku despite his flaws.
I still like Gentle and La Brava, but I can't actually find the emotional stakes of this battle for both sides compelling like the story wants me too and these flashbacks are cutting these clearly imperfect people a bit too much slack. I think all the right puzzle pieces are here and are very easy to fit, but Horikoshi's fitting them together awkwardly execution-wise. This focus on dreams and only dreams in particular so far feels arbitrary for the sake of trope-y shonen dream chasing. I feel as though Horikoshi can't decide between making this villain duo look ethically charismatic rebels or selfish deluded losers, and is instead mish-mashing them haphazardly while erroneously trying to treat every possible hero motivation with inspiring respect (like Mineta declaring he's only in it for the girls in the Final Exam arc despite his very meager character development there).
In spite of my complaints though, I actually think this is shaping up to be the best fight in the manga. Not emotionally, but on a technical level. Gentle's powers and Deku's strategy with his long-ranged attacks, in balance with how versatile their transportation methods are and the environmental factors brought in as they change locations, has been capturing my interest. And in a much more effective way than Deku casting Talk no Jutsu on Shouto (but that fight totally earned it and Deku still lost, so it's great all around), Deku overcoming Muscular through sheer adrenaline boost willpower, and Deku getting a convenient spontaneous temporary power-up from Eri while inexplicably defying fate with friendship.
But this isn't about just not being a hero
Gentel is doing this because he doesn't want to die as a poor man that nobody remember, he wants to be a inspiration to someone or at least be remember for something.
This is like saying that Deku and the others were acting like dicks in the Licence exam when they destroyed the dreams of other students, one of them even begged to Deku. This is important to him, just like being a hero is important for all this kids.
I got that. He doesn't care what he is remembered for, he only cares the fame and inspiring someone. That makes him less compelling to me.
I don´t see how Deku is an "annoying pest" right now.
Yet that's the emotion I feel, which is why this fight feels super weird.
I guess I've just been well and truly suckered in and I'm a fully fledged "subscriber" to Gentle's channel.
His rapport and relationship with La Brava has compelled me deeply and I wish them all the best.
When they give each other love and support my heart skips a beat and I feel warm happiness for them.
Deku comes off as a homewrecker as a result, and despite my brain knowing that he's in the right…
my heart wants him to GTFO.
It's so conflicting and weird.
I have no strong feeling towards Gentle no way or the other.
I got that. He doesn't care what he is remembered for, he only cares the fame and inspiring someone. That makes him less compelling to me.
I don´t know, I think it´s pretty similar to Deku and Bakugou´s motivation for being a Hero.
The same thing must happen with all the rest of the students of Class A, most of them just wanted to became heroes just because they wanted.
It´s nothing remarcable, it is just something they want to do because it´s important to them. The same thing happens with Gentel, this is his dream, the only thing he had at that point, and is important to him.
I got that. He doesn't care what he is remembered for, he only cares the fame and inspiring someone. That makes him less compelling to me.
If he was only caring about fame he could be a lot more controversial than he is now. Stain got mega-infamous for killing heroes but La Brava states he is very careful to not fight with the extra power. I feel like this isnt just him going LCS and all but that he does want to be viewed as hero because he wanted to be one but short of that he's just going around dealing with issues he sees as unjust in the small term, like globally unfriendly businesses or whatever.
JB just went up, sorry for the delay, everyone: https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/my-hero-academia/en/0/179/page/1
Definitely agree that the action was sloppier this chapter. The past few have been relatively decent in terms of flow but this one was a bit more Overhaul.
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Not even gonna pretend I'm smart enough add my two cents but here's half a penny:
We could use the excuse we're seeing Gentle and La Brava's flashbacks for their POV and that's why they're in total victim mode. But, yeah, them being outcasts who found each other is part of their narrative. Question is are they better together or just as screwed up but hiding it well? I think how the fight ends (whether Gentle and La Brava decide to pack it in) and if they actually reflect on their actions will answer that.
I would hardly call any of Gentle's actions worthy of being called a vigilante. He commits petty crimes under the pretense of a righteous cause but really it's just for some youtube views to fuel his ego/dead dream. He even said in this chapter he's willing to step on others dream just to accomplish it. Totally villainous.
True, but Gentle doesn't know about Eri and how much this means to certain students. To him it's just some dumb festival students put together between selfies and Twitter posts. Doubt he'd hardly call acting in a school play or shaking your butt on stage for your peers a real dream.
Guess I'm just a cynical bastard. In my mind All Might and Deku and the like are exceptions. Least half the heroes are in it for fame, fortune or something selfish.
I have no strong feeling towards Gentle no way or the other.
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Gentle gives me sort of Dr. Hiruluk vibes in the whole "People die when they're forgotten" deal. Which makes the whole chasing fame for Gentle thing reasonable to me.
It's one thing to die at least if you know you have a loving family but Gentle apparently even lost that. But dying when you can't think of a single person who would care if you did? That hurts.