Chapter 829: The Yonkou, Charlotte Linlin the Pirate
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If most of the ministers are of Muscat caliber, they shouldn't be that much of a threat for the Strawhat.
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@sanji''s_dad:
he can control his soul meaning if his soul got sucked he he could just leave her body or even free the other souls sucked in her as well
But are soul and lifespan the same things ? It is more Bonney who is immune to her power and the theories of her and Big Mum being related may resurface…
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Seems like we are in Toriko land.
Leaving the crew seems like quite a specific thing for Big Mom to worried about.
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@Bartholemew:
So Big Mom stole her son 40 years and therefore he died? I would have assumed that he 'just' would age 40 years as he didn't look that old.
He's probably old not dead. Or Big mom can give it back.
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If most of the ministers are of Muscat caliber, they shouldn't be that much of a threat for the Strawhat.
…because getting taken down by (seemingly) a hax DF power is a good gauge of power?
Anyway, the minsters don't seem to be the muscle behind Big Mom's crew.
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…because getting taken down by (seemingly) a hax DF power is a good gauge of power?
Anyway, the minsters don't seem to be the muscle behind Big Mom's crew.
Being one shoted is always a gauge of power in a shonen.
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Being one shoted is always a gauge of power in a shonen.
Which of course makes Sugar the most powerful person in OP.
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That one panel reminded me of King Kong.
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do we know who is the guy in the background of the color spread,on the lower center?
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Huh. And i thought Kaido had set a new standard for being a shitty boss.
Yeah no i'd rather take my chances with mr wild, drunken mood swings than with an insane cannibal.
I can't believe that anybody, let alone entire nations, want to work for this lady
Well it depends which one happen more often.
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do we know who is the guy in the background of the color spread,on the lower center?
Raise Max?
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And that reason is?
Whatever reason Chopper wants to stay in that form. Because it's cool, cute, awesome, or something.
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What is the deal with the Joker Lookalike Minister? Buggy's long lost brother?
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There was an Elephant in the middle as well. Elephants have no fur last time I checked it.
Actually, they do. It's just hard to notice.
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Also super happy to see Jinbe again, like most people I assume.
Though I wonder what will happen to his crew since he'll probably join luffy's main crew.
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If most of the ministers are of Muscat caliber, they shouldn't be that much of a threat for the Strawhat.
The impression I get is that the strong ones are the husbands/wives of the ministers.
After all, her crew expands by marrying powerful people into it.
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Guys, I think i have a speculation/theory about Big Mom's eating disorder! I think this must be Caesar's doing! Remember those kids at Punk Hazard, they crave for the "candies" that Caesar give and if they didn't get them, they went violent? That is what happening to Big Mom, maybe that whole research that Caesar did for Big Mom in the past was the cause of her eating disorder! Maybe Caesar was asked to make like a ingredient experiment for Big Mom? Maybe he create some ingredient or a cream paste or sort onto some Croquembouche, unbeknownst to Big Mom that it was a drug, she got scammed by him, ate those cream puffs and went crazy and violent all of a sudden, craving for those Croquembouche with her crewmembers thinking it was because of her tantrum? That's what I thought.
What do you guys think of this? I'm not sure if anyone talk about this yet but I wanted to know your thoughts on it.
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Being one shoted is always a gauge of power in a shonen.
Except when a hax ability is involved.
I refer you to Sugar, Perona etc.
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Thanks Sang Ho! Didn't remember that, which is sad cause I did the English edithing of OPDC vol 66. Shame on me
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big mom and bonney are definitely related. bonney throws similar tantrums when she doesn't get the food of choice plus other similar features. also maybe big mom has a mythical fruit? maybe the tree of life? she would fight using wood and also has control over life.
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- Why is Lucci making his debut post-timeskip in a movie?
- When I read the "I'm not gonna mess up this time, I swear" note, I felt sorry for the translator. Then I realized what it meant.
- I hate myself for this, but I feel like Oda may be pointing to something with the "lookout" post being focused on every now and then. I'm not saying either Pedro or Carrot will join, but I think he wants us to feel like that may happen-je t'aime
- I love Tamago.
- A. DWARF. TOP. OFFICER!!! <3 <3 My heart goes doki doki
- I still say red herring. I doubt BM will really be that furious if Jinbe leaves. The fact Lola gave Luffy the vivre card and expected it to be enough for him to get her mother's help suggest her departure was not traumatic. She left in good terms with her mother/BM.
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Guys, I think i have a speculation/theory about Big Mom's eating disorder! I think this must be Caesar's doing! Remember those kids at Punk Hazard, they crave for the "candies" that Caesar give and if they didn't get them, they went violent? That is what happening to Big Mom, maybe that whole research that Caesar did for Big Mom in the past was the cause of her eating disorder! Maybe Caesar was asked to make like a ingredient experiment for Big Mom? Maybe he create some ingredient or a cream paste or sort onto some Croquembouche, unbeknownst to Big Mom that it was a drug, she got scammed by him, ate those cream puffs and went crazy and violent all of a sudden, craving for those Croquembouche with her crewmembers thinking it was because of her tantrum? That's what I thought.
What do you guys think of this? I'm not sure if anyone talk about this yet but I wanted to know your thoughts on it.
Nice thought. Maybe CC was tasked to "invent" a sweet/Dessert of incredible sweetness for BM, but to get a lot of Money outta this Task, he also made this Invention in a way to make BM addicted to it. Would be cool if - even if nothing of this turns out to be true - CC could heal her from this disorder. What I took from it, is, that BM doesn't only favor croque bouche, but also other stuff, because Tamago asked:"Which Kind of sweet is it this time?"
BM seems to have an Appetite for different Sweets, not just Croque-bouche. -
Except when a hax ability is involved.
I refer you to Sugar, Perona etc.
It also depends on how it is told. Here it looks like we won't hear much more of that guy who is dead after running from his mum despite knowing her power.
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@.access:
- Why is Lucci making his debut post-timeskip on the movie?
Technically he made his debut post-Dressrosa.
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Big Mom's fruit is pretty similar to Moriah's. I bet she can get strengthened by taking lives and putting them into herself. Just like Moriah with the shadows. But this time she can become so powerful that can be as strong as WB.
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Nice thought. Maybe CC was tasked to "invent" a sweet/Dessert of incredible sweetness for BM, but to get a lot of Money outta this Task, he also made this Invention in a way to make BM addicted to it. Would be cool if - even if nothing of this turns out to be true - CC could heal her from this disorder. What I took from it, is, that BM doesn't only favor croque bouche, but also other stuff, because Tamago asked:"Which Kind of sweet is it this time?"
BM seems to have an Appetite for different Sweets, not just Croque-bouche.Yeah, it seems like Caesar could be the only one to cure her disorder and also, Big Mom seems clueless after the whole incident that is going on in this chapter. Like she doesn't remember what she was doing to the town. If she were to do that during the wedding, that would cause a lot of mayhem, chaos and possibly, starting a war between the Charlotte family and the Vinsmoke family/Germa 66!
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So far, from what I can tell, Big Mom's devil fruit has something to do with stealing life force. I suppose its a little different than Gecko Moria's shadow fruit but I'm going to wait it out before I really gauge her powers. I always felt the Yonkos would be one Paramecia type (Big Mom?), one Mystical Zoan (Kaido?), one Logia, (Blackbeard), and Shanks being the non-devil fruit users with possible OP haki powers. If I have to guess, we can definitely cross Acid Acid off the list. I also think soul-stealing is off the list because one would think that'd be to cliche for Oda. The kicker here and I think what explained her powers best is the "40 years" she muttered. This means she obviously took something, more that likely his "Soul" (in this case life energy?). So I'm guess she has some hax food/absorption type Paramecia devil fruit. That's the best I got.
I kind of hate chapters like these that just pose a bunch of questions. Where is Pekoms? Is Jinbei screwed or even going thru with leaving her crew? What the hell did Pedro do in his pas? Etc etc etc. Good chapter but my impatient nature hates set up chapters like this, especially when Oda teases devil fruit powers knowing they won't debut for at least 10 or chapters :/.
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Dumb Theory: Pedro is Sanji who got sent back in time and transformed into a Mink.
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Dumb Theory: Pedro is Sanji who got sent back in time and transformed into a Mink.
Can't be. He is a ninja
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Pretty enjoyable chapter.
• It sort of makes sense now, Big Mama ain't all that evil but when she desires something she'll get it no matter the cost and her 'food disorder' is a nice way for Oda to introduce that evil aspect of her rather than having a full on evil bitch.
• life span, I wonder how that will work against Brook and Luffy since Luffy has already lost part of his life. Can she steal and implant life into peoples/objects?
• is good to see how Robins importance just keep rising up and since Big Mama appreciated the Poneglyph Jimbi brought with him so much, this might be a saving point on Luffy befriending Big Mama.
• Big mama's Intel in really amazing. She already knows that Jimbi is about to call it truce because she knows his history with Luffy and Luffy is in town.
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@.access:
- Why is Lucci making his debut post-timeskip on the movie?
- When I read the "I'm not gonna mess up this time, I swer" note, I felt sorry for the translator. Then I realized what it meant.
- I hate myself for this, but I feel like Oda may be pointing to something with the "lookout" post being focused on every now and then. I'm not saying either Pedro or Carrot will join, but I think he wants us to feel like that may happen-je t'aime
- I love Tamago.
- A. DWARF. TOP. OFFICER!!! <3 <3 My heart goes doki doki
- I still say red herring. I doubt BM will really be that furious if Jinbe leaves. The fact Lola gave Luffy the vivre card and expected it to be enough for him to get her mother's help suggest her departure was not traumatic. She left in good terms with her mother/BM.
…no need to hate yourself....for an...observation.......it was....brave of you....to do.......by the way...if I never...told you before....I like your avatar....Leo fan as well.......
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Hooray Jinbe is back! That mutha fletcher… Thought he was holding on to that Poneglyph for Robin(the woman who thinks he's handsome!) but I guess we pretty much realized it was for Biggy once we found out about the Road Poneglyphs. Glad to see Jinbe getting straight to the point about joining the crew or at the very least Big Mom assuming he's trying to leave. It's been on our minds for so long I'm really glad Oda just went there right away.
I am really conflicted with how I want Big Mom being dealt with in the long haul. Not now, but eventually I feel like she needs to go down.
Ok so Big Mom can steal peoples souls and potentially implant them where ever she wants, great. What does that have to do with stomach acid? Maybe she just really does have digestive issues?
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@Daz:
Jinbes return was soured for me by his unsavoury sacrifice of those creampuffs; for a supposedly palatable main character, that wasn't sweet at all. We even see them getting eaten, no sugarcoating at all, and with the way its presented I'm not sure if theres gonna be any just desserts.
I am not sorry.
(and also serious)
Anyway, holy cripes the amount of diversity in Totland and Big Moms crew is insane. With the amount of stuff going on, it feels like Thriller Bark cranked up to 11.
Oda specifically included the panel where the sweets are fine with being eaten if they're delicious just so Jinbe wouldn't be portrayed as a monster on par with what Big Mom was depicted to be all chapter.
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That was a fine chapter? The sweets theme with Big Mom is fun and Jinbei is fully back in picture.
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That big headed man and that crocodile guy… There were characters like that on the moon in Eneru's cover story. I wonder if there is a relation.
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Gosh, and I thought Kaido was terrifying. Big Mom could give him a run for his money. They were right the pirates who run the New World don't mess around, even if they are family. I have a feeling Pudding is not going to get out of this one unscathed, and that Nitro will rat out her plans.
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It also depends on how it is told. Here it looks like we won't hear much more of that guy who is dead after running from his mum despite knowing her power.
We won't hear from a guy who's "dead", no.
However, your original assertion extended to all the ministers?
I think it's a bit premature is all.
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Big Mom's Intel amazes me every single time!
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Daaam she is really huge and quite a DF power she has….
Whitebeard, Kaido , Big Mom, 3 huuuuge individuals and then Shanks - makes 1 wonder just how powerful Shanks actually is and by extension Mihawk too. -
I think the only reason Carrot changed place with Pedro was because Pedro wouldn't comment on the juice sea (and then mention that he has been there before).
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Big Mom is a pretty cool, but also really plain design. I quite like it when compared to Kaido.
Good chapter, let's see what happens to Jinbe.
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I hope Jinbei can play his cards right, and prevent Big Mom from tearing him a new one for thinking about quitting his crew.
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Holy Shamoly! JINBEI OYABUNNNNNN!! FINALLY WE GET A NEW NAKAMA!
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@.access:
- Why is Lucci making his debut post-timeskip in a movie?
- When I read the "I'm not gonna mess up this time, I swear" note, I felt sorry for the translator. Then I realized what it meant.
- I hate myself for this, but I feel like Oda may be pointing to something with the "lookout" post being focused on every now and then. I'm not saying either Pedro or Carrot will join, but I think he wants us to feel like that may happen-je t'aime
- I love Tamago.
- A. DWARF. TOP. OFFICER!!! <3 <3 My heart goes doki doki
- I still say red herring. I doubt BM will really be that furious if Jinbe leaves. The fact Lola gave Luffy the vivre card and expected it to be enough for him to get her mother's help suggest her departure was not traumatic. She left in good terms with her mother/BM.
Lucci had his mask on when law and the others were going to greenbit to hand caesar over and at the end of the arc with his mask off.
cpzero will be the ones to kill or arrest the bad guys in the new movie after they're defeated and steal all the gold.
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There is a huge probability that we are gonna skip to another setting in the next chapter and just wonder how that conversation went.
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Nice chapter. Big Mom's fruit looks freaking dangerous, though I know she'll never truly hit one of our adorable protagonists with what she has shown, so I'm hoping she has more aces up her sleeve.
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An interesting chapter.really dig the whole wonderland type weird things and food stuff.Also really liked the way the map was drawn,didn't understand the 1's and 2's earlier,now i understand they are referring to the log pose's needles and i think that's a pretty good utilisation of the 3 needles log pose.
also lol at people really thinking muscat is dead!
no way is he dead.
@.access:I still say red herring. I doubt BM will really be that furious if Jinbe leaves. The fact Lola gave Luffy the vivre card and expected it to be enough for him to get her mother's help suggest her departure was not traumatic. She left in good terms with her mother/BM.
agreed.i think till now,Big Mom has been presented in an intentionally vague light,where everything could be explained by some wacky powers or such."oh,those subordinates i ate?those were just talking food."
that's not to say she is kind,but she doesn't have to be evil.still curious about how she will treat Sh's.
my bet would be she'd challenge luffy to some task.because considering half the crew is not even there,really doubt there's gonna be an all out battle -
so, it seems like if you fear Big Mom, you can get your soul taken, which means Luffy is safe :) also, Big Mom's hat has eyes that keep moving….
the hat spoke to her actually. maybe she will upgrade luffy's straw hat to become selfaware
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i have a feeling its a side effect of her devil fruit's awakening
wah never thought about it, ima dumb ><
yeah her fruit is perma awakened !