What do you mean "scary" ? He is obviously looking at her speech bubble.
Looks super creepy and scary. The kid is a creep.
What do you mean "scary" ? He is obviously looking at her speech bubble.
Looks super creepy and scary. The kid is a creep.
Now that we know that the Minks, Wanda included, knew that where Raizou was, can anyone tell me if Wanda's line in that page (top left panel) should have been translated differently ?
Looks super creepy and scary. The kid is a creep.
Call me perverted, but he's probably looking at Nami's breasts. I mean what else is directly behind the speech bubble?
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That's the page he means.
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That's the page he means.
well….i dont know Japanese so what line are we discussing here ?
I think the reason why the friendly minks reacted to intruders(luffy) in the whale garden as strongly as they did is partly because Raizou is there.
Its interesting, if Raizou was there from the start, explains why Jack and the others found Zou in the first place,( atleast one explanation, ) they were on the tails of samurai to begin with, But does that mean that after the shipwreck Raizou has been in a coma or similar condition or what, can't help but think that if they knew what happened to him, them they should know why it happened and who caused it, with that intel preparation could have been placed beforehand , perhaps Jack would not have gotten as far as he did, on the other hand, it would have been counterproductive if they did have the preparation and actually got the better of the pirates, high chance due to one of two reasons;
One the hostility of the minks might have aggravated Jack, which might or might not have been beneficial to the minks battlewise, but should the minks have gotten the advantage in that manner the others on the ships would probably seek assistance perhaps from one other or all of the calamities, mabe even the boss himself.
Or two Jack or someone on their side would figure out just by their response that their target was there if they had atleast one strategist(this is one piece, is strategy even an afterthought) or someone who thinks more or in preference to simply jumping headon into battle. which would then allow the Beast pirates the option of no restraint in their actions, no hostage policy. Because they had 100 percent probability that he was there.
Then again they sounded like they did have all assurance that he was there until Ginrummy placed doubt if Jack listened to the report.
There is doubt on Jack being an idiot, the guy might actually be a brilliant general type pirate, mabe we were misled by his actions on Zou and what we think unfolded on that stormy encounter.
Now that we know that the Minks, Wanda included, knew that where Raizou was, can anyone tell me if Wanda's line in that page (top left panel) should have been translated differently ?
Cnet's translation:
Wanda: The ground shook so violently… / ...that Zunisha himself let out a cry......!!! // ......But how...... // How could we possibly react when a ruthless foe invaded our home...
Zoro: ?!
Wanda: ...and demanded something we did not even possess...?
Given the info we have now, the translation doesn't change. She does say they were demanded "something we did not even possess" (もっていないもの); there's no ambiguity in this statement. Perhaps this means that Raizou was no longer in Zou by the time Jack invaded?
Cnet's translation:
Wanda: The ground shook so violently… / ...that Zunisha himself let out a cry......!!! // ......But how...... // How could we possibly react when a ruthless foe invaded our home...
Zoro: ?!
Wanda: ...and demanded something we did not even possess...?Given the info we have now, the translation doesn't change. She does say they were demanded "something we did not even possess" (もっていないもの); there's no ambiguity in this statement. Perhaps this means that Raizou was no longer in Zou by the time Jack invaded?
It means Raizou isn't theirs to give to someone in the first place.
The line would have probably been less ambiguous if Raizou wasn't there at all.
It means Raizou isn't theirs to give to someone in the first place.
The line would have probably been less ambiguous if Raizou wasn't there at all.
There is no ambiguity, it really says "we don't posess (have) it (him)", it doesn't say something like it's theirs or not.
Thanks for the clarification.
Call me perverted, but he's probably looking at Nami's breasts. I mean what else is directly behind the speech bubble?
Oh I know, but the kid is still creepy and Oda made him look super creepy for that panel, just look at those Doffy-sunglass-eyes.
Oh I know, but the kid is still creepy and Oda made him look super creepy for that panel, just look at those Doffy-sunglass-eyes.
oh so momo is doffys ….:ninja:
I think Momo is just a young boy who is curious and fan of Nami's body (girls in general) he will soon enter the teen stage and probably won't have any opportunity to ever touch or be close to woman body like this cause woman act differently towards teens and kids.
I think Momo is just a young boy who is curious and fan of Nami's body (girls in general) he will soon enter the teen stage and probably won't have any opportunity to ever touch or be close to woman body like this cause woman act differently towards teens and kids.
You're thinking too much into this, he's a perverted kid.
You are thinking too much into this, he's a boy!
I wasn't like that when I was a boy.
I'd even argue that Doffy started wearing those glasses to freely avoid eye contact and peep.
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I wasn't like that when I was a boy.
Sure but you weren't raised in a perver–- I mean japanese themed island.
Like RamistaR said, he is just a boy.
Boys aren't that creepy or perverted. Oda has developed some sorta ultra-creepy kid.
Boys aren't that creepy or perverted. Oda has developed some sorta ultra-creepy kid.
It's just a gag…
There is no ambiguity, it really says "we don't posess (have) it (him)", it doesn't say something like it's theirs or not.
"Possess" can be ambiguous, "have" not so much.
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Haven't really been reading OP since Powermanga stopped.. Is there anywhere else other than VIZ and Manga Stream to get caught up?
putting aside the very intriguing momo topic.
we still don't know why brook acted the way he did after hearing the name vinesmoke.
will brook shed a different light on sanji's family, knowing how oda plans these situations maybe even a solution to the current problem.
he may have a history with the family or something, maybe he'll be the trump card that makes things in strawhats favor, it'll either be him or aokiji.
just a feeling.
While rewatching old arcs it reminds me that on the fishman island at the end of the arc, Jimbei said he have to be the one to see Big Mam to put an end to the collaboration they had (since Whitebeard died Big Mam flag was used to prevent pirates to attack it) and since Luffy claimed it and Jimbei didn't knew about it it might be a chance that Jimbei can be actually at Mam's tea party too!?
"Possess" can be ambiguous, "have" not so much.
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Is it possible they could be hiding the truth from the strawhats…
I mean they almost died protecting him, they werent gonna casually mention, oh yeah he's in the back
"Possess" can be ambiguous, "have" not so much.
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Could be both, but I'd say it's more like "have".
This is the verb they use: http://jisho.org/word/%E6%8C%81%E3%81%A4 It has another connotations, but if I had to translate it, I'd say "have".
i wonde how much time will take to pekoms to heal…we know minks heal faster...but it should still take him a couple of days to heal from almost certain death..although there's the travel to consider..so he might just heal on the ship on the way there
also..how the hell does he intend to go away from zhou?mink don't seem to have ships
They have a forest and Franky, so they can make a ship.
Or maybe they could use Law's submarine or the ship that Raizo used to reach Zou in the first place.
Boys aren't that creepy or perverted. Oda has developed some sorta ultra-creepy kid.
Surely many definitely are.
Since Pekoms and Tamago are best mates, maybe tamago left a small ship behind for him to return. That way they would get in easy in the base and don't get attention since it's one of big mom ships.
Other than being a mink, Pokemon is also a zoan. A defensive one at that, I could easily imagine him healing even faster than the other minks.
On another note:
Kaido and
Raizo ..
They don't look too similar, do they?:ninja:
You quiver form a kid loving beautiful woman and using his kid status to stay near her? Grow up a little. hur hur
so:
Bepo, as a mink, decided that the heart pirates should wait at zou to meet up with law, and because he is a mink he has an inert ability to find zou.
Pekoms overheard the curlyhat's travel to zou and because he is a mink he has an inert ability to find zou.
Raizo awaits Kinemon, Momo and Kanjuro on zou, because they were separated at sea and Raizo entered Zou first and extremely fast because s/he was there like two weeks ago.Could Raizo also have an inert ability to find zou? Could Raizo be a mink?
Other than being a mink, Pokemon is also a zoan. A defensive one at that, I could easily imagine him healing even faster than the other minks.
On another note:
Kaido and
Raizo ..They don't look too similar, do they?:ninja:
I prefer their ship name, Kaizo. Or Kaizo-kun if we're being familiar.
so:
Bepo, as a mink, decided that the heart pirates should wait at zou to meet up with law, and because he is a mink he has an inert ability to find zou.
Pekoms overheard the curlyhat's travel to zou and because he is a mink he has an inert ability to find zou.
Raizo awaits Kinemon, Momo and Kanjuro on zou, because they were separated at sea and Raizo entered Zou first and extremely fast because s/he was there like two weeks ago.Could Raizo also have an inert ability to find zou? Could Raizo be a mink?
A ninja fox would be cool, but I think the latest chapter explains why the samurai chose ZOE as a meeting place. Wano and Zoe are bros.
You quiver form a kid loving beautiful woman and using his kid status to stay near her? Grow up a little. hur hur
That's not love. That's self-centered perversion.
That's the joke. He's acting in a very socially unacceptable manner and the absurdity of it is intended to be humorous. However in a real world scenario what's he doing could be seen as an early warning of mental instability.
This chapter sort of sympathizes Jack's actions in my eyes. The minks were lying to him and somehow he knew it. I don't know if that's good perception or what but he continues to be my favorite villain in a long time.
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That's not love. That's self-centered perversion.
That's the joke. He's acting in a very socially unacceptable manner and the absurdity of it is intended to be humorous. However in a real world scenario what's he doing could be seen as an early warning of mental instability.
Get off your high horse jesus. I was into girls when i was his age. It's natural. Romantic "love" is self-centered perversion.
That's not love. That's self-centered perversion.
That's the joke. He's acting in a very socially unacceptable manner and the absurdity of it is intended to be humorous. However in a real world scenario what's he doing could be seen as an early warning of mental instability.
It's not about instability. He gets positive reinforcement: it works. If it doesn't happen in real life that is only because it doesn't pay dividends. If it it seen as instability, that's only because someone sees it that way.
(Also: equivocation on "love." It was clearly not intended as romantic love. If I say I love caesar salad, the objection isn't "That's not romantic love, it's self-centered tastiness!" Saying Momo loves the female form does not mean he romantically loves it, it just means - well, I guess - that he really enjoys shoving his head in boobs. Something many a well-adjusted person of any age would do if it worked out for them as well as it has for Momo.)
Momo is the biggest jerk bastard that the Sunny/Merry had the unfortune to have on sail and that is all we need to know.
Get off your high horse jesus. I was into girls when i was his age. It's natural. Romantic "love" is self-centered perversion.
When you were 8?
Were you like, watching their tits and asses, groping them, or was it more like an innocent infatuation?
I don't really mind much what Oda is doing with Momo. He wants him to be unlikeable? Cool. But I won't pretend that's perfectly normal, lol.
frankly,it may be just me but i don't even see it as momo doing perverted things,though that may be just me.what i see is nami shutting momo's lips,and momo becoming a little flustered by that.
although it is a bad omen for the next 2 weeks if the the thread is seriously discussing adolescence sexuality already
Kids like Momo in real life?
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Plenty!
Though, to be fair they don't go out of their way to make it happen(or make it their ultimate goal like Momo does).
frankly,it may be just me but i don't even see it as momo doing perverted things,though that may be just me.what i see is nami shutting momo's lips,and momo becoming a little flustered by that.
although it is a bad omen for the next 2 weeks if the the thread is seriously discussing adolescence sexuality already
Well, he's pressed against her boobs. Not much of a conundrum.
It will blow over.
At least Momonosuke will go away after the Wano arc and stay there. And I don't see him go with Luffy to big mom either in this next island before Wano.
What's with the Momo hate? he's just an 8 year old who takes after his father lol. It's not like it's his fault, girls press him against their boobs on any possible occasion.
Momo is from Wano. They seem to be pretty strict when it comes to how women dress there (see Kinemon's reaction when he saw Nami)
Imagine you haven't seen even a cleavage your entire life and then suddenly there's this chick walking with nothing but a bra hugging you all the time.
I say his reactions are 100% healthy young boy reactions.