I'm really amazed by Yellow Robs patience
Chopper's forms
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Tbh, it's pretty clear that jack works for kaido.
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If you had to choose, which strawhat captain would you sacrifice to hype Weeble ?
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If you had to choose, which strawhat captain would you sacrifice to hype Weeble ?
Jinbei:ninja::ninja::ninja:
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Jinbei:ninja::ninja::ninja:
what?
Tbh the only captain's i care little for are hajrudin leo and orlumbus
so one of these 3 probably
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@LordEnel:
what?
Tbh the only captain's i care little for are hajrudin leo and orlumbus
so one of these 3 probably
That´s the point.
How am I going to get hyped about Weeble if he beats someone I consider weak and/or don´t care about.
Weeble vs Jinbei 2016!
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I try my best, I really do.
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I would believe he is already hyped up. There may be a flashback of weeble defeating Z if he is indeed THAT shichibukai.
Personally, the impression I've got is to not like him. I don't think he's very nice.
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Elsewhere in this forum someone pointed to this, a summary of the databooks: http://opforum.net/threads/op-databooks-summary-full-version.3676/
By far the most interesting point of information I found to be this:
6. The only way so far to figure out Blackbeard's mystery is to think about Ace's words regarding BB's age.
I briefly attempted a google search on this but to no avail. So I am wondering: what did Ace say about BB's age, and what theories are circulating regarding the meaning behind this statement?
Disclaimer: I fully acknowledge that the databooks are not always reliable (them claiming Sabo was dead being a prime example) and I am in no way implying that this is a factual statement. I am merely asking what theories are out there surrounding this statement; if any.
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Elsewhere in this forum someone pointed to this, a summary of the databooks: http://opforum.net/threads/op-databooks-summary-full-version.3676/
By far the most interesting point of information I found to be this:
I briefly attempted a google search on this but to no avail. So I am wondering: what did Ace say about BB's age, and what theories are circulating regarding the meaning behind this statement?
Disclaimer: I fully acknowledge that the databooks are not always reliable (them claiming Sabo was dead being a prime example) and I am in no way implying that this is a factual statement. I am merely asking what theories are out there surrounding this statement; if any.
What is blackbears mystery?
I found this more interesting, "7. During time-skip, Robin was assisting the RA under Dragon and mastered vast knowledge."
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What is blackbears mystery?
Likely the mystery behind how he managed to eat two fruits. Whatever Ace said about BB's age is supposedly a clue to his secret.
I found this more interesting, "7. During time-skip, Robin was assisting the RA under Dragon and mastered vast knowledge."
I did not, seeing as how we all knew she was in the RA because it was explicitly said. I know that the fact (using "fact" loosely because nothing is confirmed) that she met Dragon and attained knowledge has not been stated as of yet in the manga, but it is highly predictable and should not altogether come as a surprise.
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Likely the mystery behind how he managed to eat two fruits. Whatever Ace said about BB's age is supposedly a clue to his secret.
I did not, seeing as how we all knew she was in the RA because it was explicitly said. I know that the fact (using "fact" loosely because nothing is confirmed) that she met Dragon and attained knowledge has not been stated as of yet in the manga, but it is highly predictable and should not altogether come as a surprise.
I was not surprised, just exited that it was confirmed.
That makes sense, have you figured out what Ace said yet?
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Has it ever been established in one piece that Logia users intangibility is always active? Can they be distracted from using intangibility?
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Has it ever been established in one piece that Logia users intangibility is always active? Can they be distracted from using intangibility?
It's not always active unless they train their reflexes enough (Crocodile).
We've seen people get hit by surprise, like Ace in Alabasta when he was asleep.
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@Galaxy:
It's not always active unless they train their reflexes enough (Crocodile).
Seriously, where does he said that? I's one of those reference that is constantly use but I never saw.
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Seriously, where does he said that? I's one of those reference that is constantly use but I never saw.
I don't believe he ever outright stated it. All he said was what was on this page, which I guess hints at it enough. But we've gotten a few instances of there being no way for him to know he's going to be hit and still be intangible. With other examples throughout the series, there's no way it isn't a reflex thing.
If it was something always on, Ace/Smoker couldn't have been hit in that bar scene back in Alabasta, nor would Franky have been able to touch Caribou. I'm sure there's more, but these are the ones that come to mind right now.
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@Galaxy:
I don't believe he ever outright stated it. All he said was what was on this page, which I guess hints at it enough. But we've gotten a few instances of there being no way for him to know he's going to be hit and still be intangible. With other examples throughout the series, there's no way it isn't a reflex thing.
If it was something always on, Ace/Smoker couldn't have been hit in that bar scene back in Alabasta, nor would Franky have been able to touch Caribou. I'm sure there's more, but these are the ones that come to mind right now.
Always was clear to me he was talking about making your using your fruit like sandstorm and Espada or even Luffy's gear. Luffy was simply punching back then proving how much of a rookie he was.
Caribou let himself get hit. Franky commented on that.
And Ace was for the comedic moment llike when Nami can punch Luffy. He manage just fine to not get killed when sniped by surprise on Banero and clearly saw Smokey flying towards him(which means he could have avoid it).Even Sabo who just got his fruit mention how it's a waste of time that he keeps dodging.
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How did Shandrians have wings before they adapted to sky island?
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How did Shandrians have wings before they adapted to sky island?
The wings were already part of their before arriving at the planet from the moon.
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The wings were already part of their before arriving at the planet from the moon.
Huh? Where was it said that Shandrians were originally from the moon?
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Huh? Where was it said that Shandrians were originally from the moon?
Enel saw a wall picture of Birkans, Shandorians and Skypieans on his moon adventure.
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Always was clear to me he was talking about making your using your fruit like sandstorm and Espada or even Luffy's gear. Luffy was simply punching back then proving how much of a rookie he was.
Perhaps, but it could also be referring to actually mastering the art of his devil fruit (and reflexively dodging is a part of that).
Caribou let himself get hit. Franky commented on that.
Then it can't be permanently active if we have instances where the user chooses to turn it off and on at will (and instances where the user is distracted).
That was pretty much the point of the original question.
And Ace was for the comedic moment 'llike when Nami can punch Luffy.
I'd consider these two different circumstances. Nami harming Luffy is played as comedic, and his injuries are always gone in the next scene.
Yes, the Smoker and Ace bar scene was played as a gag, but it's not the same type of gag.
He manage just fine to not get killed when sniped by surprise on Banero
He was clearly in a situation where he needed to be ready for anything there. Having his power toggled on for sneak attacks would make sense.
and clearly saw Smokey flying towards him(which means he could have avoid it).
Nah, Luffy came in to the bar out of nowhere and knocked Smoker right into Ace. It was a surprise hit that he didn't have time to react to, nor was he in a serious battle situation.
And then a few pages later, Smoker knocks Ace into the ground while he's distracted.
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Even Sabo who just got his fruit mention how it's a waste of time that he keeps dodging.
He's just saying he could use his Logia power to take the hit instead of dodging. That doesn't really point to it being always on.
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Enel saw a wall picture of Birkans, Shandorians and Skypieans on his moon adventure.
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Oooh that's right! I totally forgot about Enel's moon adventure..
Thank you :) Also it's interesting that the city on the moon is called Birka just like Enel's home sky island which he destroyed.
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@Galaxy:
Perhaps, but it could also be referring to actually mastering the art of his devil fruit (and reflexively dodging is a part of that).
Considering he never referred t that and use one of his elaborate techniques in the next panel, I don't really see anything pointing to such thing but I guess that's something we disagree on.
Then it can't be permanently active if we have instances where the user chooses to turn it off and on at will (and instances where the user is distracted).
That was pretty much the point of the original question.The question seemed to be whether it was possible to hit a logia by taking him by surprise rather than if they have control over than intangibility. It always always active except if they willingly turn it off.
I'd consider these two different circumstances. Nami harming Luffy is played as comedic, and his injuries are always gone in the next scene.
Yes, the Smoker and Ace bar scene was played as a gag, but it's not the same type of gag.
It seemed clearly done for comedic purpose to me. Just like his cover stories later on.
He was clearly in a situation where he needed to be ready for anything there. Having his power toggled on for sneak attacks would make sense.
Smokey had just told him he was about to attack. I suspect he would be ready to avoid an attack.
Nah, Luffy came in to the bar out of nowhere and knocked Smoker right into Ace. It was a surprise hit that he didn't have time to react to, nor was he in a serious battle situation.
Smokey had just threaten him.
And then a few pages later, Smoker knocks Ace into the ground while he's distracted.
You seems to take those comedic moment as proof Ace was lacking on the mastery of devil fruit and logias needs to train to not get hit by sneak attacks.
I clearly disagree as I believe Oda made abundlandly clear comedic scene should not be taken seriously. Never did someone comment on how that logia got hit for being careless. We however have comment like Blackbeard or Pekoms pointing to them being untouchable or Enel's sleep, Ace's sniping pointing to them being fine even when surprised.
He's just saying he could use his Logia power to take the hit instead of dodging. That doesn't really point to it being always on.
How about Bastille telling it's useless to attack a logia user without haki?
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Always was clear to me he was talking about making your using your fruit like sandstorm and Espada or even Luffy's gear. Luffy was simply punching back then proving how much of a rookie he was.
Caribou let himself get hit. Franky commented on that.
And Ace was for the comedic moment llike when Nami can punch Luffy. He manage just fine to not get killed when sniped by surprise on Banero and clearly saw Smokey flying towards him(which means he could have avoid it).Even Sabo who just got his fruit mention how it's a waste of time that he keeps dodging.
He will stop dodging and then sadly Sabo will die off-panel, killed by a kairoseki bullet to the forehead. Very tragic.
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How do I use/awaken Haki? It seems a lot of people awaken it in dire situations, but Rayleigh apparently trained Luffy in it. Can anyone here who has it tell me how they awakened it?
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@Medical:
How do I use/awaken Haki? It seems a lot of people awaken it in dire situations, but Rayleigh apparently trained Luffy in it. Can anyone here who has it tell me how they awakened it?
When you talk about people awakening it in dire situations, you are really only referring to the Haki of Conquerors. Ace and especially Luffy were both seen using it unaware of what they were even doing. But this has not happened with either of the regular two colours of Haki. You could bring up Coby as an example, but it can't really be said that he "awakened it in a dire situation". It's hard to explain what that was; it just sort of awakened and from that point on he started training it. But this was rather atypical; usually it is only the Haki of Conquerors that can suddenly awaken when it is needed. (Please, people, do not bring up Zoro in Alabasta or Luffy facing Mihawk at Marineford as examples, because it is already a contentious debate in itself whether that was Haki or not to begin with. Let's not dive into that.)
So to the point: yes Haki must be trained when the person is ready for it, but those rare few who possess the Haki of Conquerors are known to have used it when unaware of what they were doing. The other two colours are not known to do this. There are people who can be born with a natural talent to use either of the two regular colours (think of Skypiea and Amazon Lily), but this is another different story.
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When you talk about people awakening it in dire situations, you are really only referring to the Haki of Conquerors. Ace and especially Luffy were both seen using it unaware of what they were even doing. But this has not happened with either of the regular two colours of Haki. You could bring up Coby as an example, but it can't really be said that he "awakened it in a dire situation". It's hard to explain what that was; it just sort of awakened and from that point on he started training it. But this was rather atypical; usually it is only the Haki of Conquerors that can suddenly awaken when it is needed. (Please, people, do not bring up Zoro in Alabasta or Luffy facing Mihawk at Marineford as examples, because it is already a contentious debate in itself whether that was Haki or not to begin with. Let's not dive into that.)
So to the point: yes Haki must be trained when the person is ready for it, but those rare few who possess the Haki of Conquerors are known to have used it when unaware of what they were doing. The other two colours are not known to do this. There are people who can be born with a natural talent to use either of the two regular colours (think of Skypiea and Amazon Lily), but this is another different story.
I was actually thinking of Usopp's case when I said "Dire situations". So, what kind of training can I do to awaken my Haki?
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@Medical:
I was actually thinking of Usopp's case when I said "Dire situations". So, what kind of training can I do to awaken my Haki?
When did Usopp use Haki? I have not given Dressrosa a reread so I may have forgotten something.
You can't do any training to awaken Haki because you don't live in the OP world. Those who do can train it somehow, but we don't know how yet. This has not been explained in detail.
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When did Usopp use Haki? I have not given Dressrosa a reread so I may have forgotten something.
You can't do any training to awaken Haki because you don't live in the OP world. Those who do can train it somehow, but we don't know how yet. This has not been explained in detail.
Usopp used Color of Observation Haki in chapter 758 against Sugar.
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@Medical:
I was actually thinking of Usopp's case when I said "Dire situations". So, what kind of training can I do to awaken my Haki?
Get into Chinese martial arts. Seriously. You'll be able to destroy stuff, protect yourself like an invisible shield and even heal yourself and others. Prepare to devote your entire life to it though if you really want to get serious. Oda's Haki is just chi/ki of the real world with some cool comic book exaggerations.
Im learning passively(which will get me no where), but at the extent that a few friends have gone to do what they do is mind boggling sometimes.
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Get into Chinese martial arts. Seriously. You'll be able to destroy stuff, protect yourself like an invisible shield and even heal yourself and others. Prepare to devote your entire life to it though if you really want to get serious. Oda's Haki is just chi/ki of the real world with some cool comic book exaggerations.
Im learning passively(which will get me no where), but at the extent that a few friends have gone to do what they do is mind boggling sometimes.
Sounds a lot like spuritual satanism. in every aspect actually lol.
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Fun questions… What will the Baratie do now after Sanji has got a new bounty pic?
The whole promo about that silly old poster isn't working anymore
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/440/2
Poor Nasugasira has been built after it as well
And to get more serious… I want to see Zeff's reaction to the "only alive" stuff...
It would actually interesting if he knows something...
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how in the world was blackbeard going to survive Impel down and steal whitebeard power and throne? had it not been for luffy in impel down, he would not survive Magellan, he would not survive marines that would have came to wait for him outside, had it not been for luck that he met ace on Banaro, the marines would not have preoccupied Whitebeard. Even with the new memebers no way blackbeard would have defeated the whitebeard crew. Blackbeard is alive today even more so by plot than almost every strawhat pirate.
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how in the world was blackbeard going to survive Impel down and steal whitebeard power and throne? had it not been for luffy in impel down, he would not survive Magellan, he would not survive marines that would have came to wait for him outside, had it not been for luck that he met ace on Banaro, the marines would not have preoccupied Whitebeard. Even with the new memebers no way blackbeard would have defeated the whitebeard crew. Blackbeard is alive today even more so by plot than almost every strawhat pirate.
Blackbeard's a man that pretty much relies on fate, and fate only.
All his plan was due to fate (you may call it plot…).He mentions this a few times back in Jaya.
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Blackbeard's a man that pretty much relies on fate, and fate only.
All his plan was due to fate (you may call it plot…).He mentions this a few times back in Jaya.
was the plan due to fate, as in fate guiding him? or the outcome of his good fortune irrespective of his plans the work of fate. It makes me worried for Dragon, and Wg. why is dragon so hung up on revolution? what if blackbeard gets half of the info Dragon might have, imagine what he could do.
would'nt it make much more sense to target the weapons source, if BB gets that, his weapons would be unlimited compared to what the revolutionaries have, would'nt it?
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was the plan due to fate, as in fate guiding him? or the outcome of his good fortune irrespective of his plans the work of fate.
I would say that he had a plan to begin with, but some things turned out to be pure fate (like Shiliew saving them from Magellan or Whitebeard actually dying).
=why is dragon so hung up on revolution? what if blackbeard gets half of the info Dragon might have, imagine what he could do.
He could potentially destroy the world.
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how in the world was blackbeard going to survive Impel down and steal whitebeard power and throne? had it not been for luffy in impel down, he would not survive Magellan, he would not survive marines that would have came to wait for him outside, had it not been for luck that he met ace on Banaro, the marines would not have preoccupied Whitebeard. Even with the new memebers no way blackbeard would have defeated the whitebeard crew. Blackbeard is alive today even more so by plot than almost every strawhat pirate.
He got lucky. His plan would have stop at ID whenMagellan kill or imprison him.
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I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask:
But why can't people who live West of the Red Line get the One Piece immediately?
And how does the timeline work? If Roger was executed years before the story starts, then should have the One Piece been found by now? I say that because rookie crews such as Luffy's already entered New World within 2-3 years, why has no one found the treasure within 20+ years of Gol D Roger's death?
Are there people in New World, near Raftel, that are interested in finding the One Piece?
Don't Luffy and other pirates show concern about whether or not some of the Yonko are closer to getting One Piece than they are?
NOTE: I initially stopped watching One Piece after Ennies Lobby. I recently started getting back into it, hoping to read the current manga, but also watch the anime up to a certain point as well (because before I would watch Water 7 while reading fishman island.)
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I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask:
But why can't people who live West of the Red Line get the One Piece immediately?
The Calm Belt is very difficult for anyone non-Marine to travel in. Also, it is implied during a conversation with Roger and Whitebeard that there is a trick needed to sail to Rafteal.
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But why can't people who live West of the Red Line get the One Piece immediately?
And how does the timeline work? If Roger was executed years before the story starts, then should have the One Piece been found by now? I say that because rookie crews such as Luffy's already entered New World within 2-3 years, why has no one found the treasure within 20+ years of Gol D Roger's death?
As Amigo pointed out, the Calm Belt is difficult to just sail through if you do not have a Marine ship. And even if you do (let's say the Marines wanted to find Raftel), without any log or eternal pose it would be virtually impossible to find any island in the New World by just sailing around and looking for it, let alone Raftel. Most importantly, though: there is something that makes it difficult to get to Raftel. There is something to it. But what that is, we do not know as of yet. We will have to see why nobody has found Raftel yet as the story draws to a close.
Are there people in New World, near Raftel, that are interested in finding the One Piece?
Probably. As I said, though, why they have been unable to get to it is largely a mystery.
Don't Luffy and other pirates show concern about whether or not some of the Yonko are closer to getting One Piece than they are?
They sure haven't showed it. And I mean, the fact that Raftel has not been found in 24 years illustrates just how difficult it is to get through; on the other hand that is encouraging in a way, because you don't really have to worry about someone who is close getting to it just like that. Many have been trying to find it for years, but nobody has figured out the trick yet. So who is to say that someone cannot enter into the New World now and catch up and be the first to solve the mystery?
It has to be noted that your mentioning of the Yonkou specifically does complicate the matter. It has been stated somewhere, though I cannot recall where, that since the Yonkou each have their sphere of influence and have most of the New World under their wing, the progress of every pirate is put to a halt. Pirates entering the New World would have to navigate through the Yonkou's spheres of influence and most presumably get killed trying to do so. Plus, because of the rigidity in the power structures, if any Yonkou would try to advance on to One Piece, the others would try to put a stop to it. Nobody is really able to make a move until something happens to disrupts the balance.
Which, of course, is set to happen shortly. There are alliances in the Supernova attempting to take down the Yonkou, and we know that the Marines are up to something as well (again, cannot recall where this was implied!). Plus Kaidou is also preparing for war. Anyways, even though the balance right now has halted much progress, there still needs to be some trick to get to Raftel. If there wasn't, it would have been found by now, balance or no balance.
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Thanks a lot for the answers.
The world of One Piece is fascinating.
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Whitebeard had no interest in One Piece. Shanks and Buggy, who were probably on Roger's ship at the time, also show no interest in One Piece. Despite Buggy's love of treasure and fame. Rayleigh definitely knows.
So there's several guys that maybe could have done it but have no real interest in doing so… and they're the ones that actually know what's there. So two of the four emporers controlling the new world had no interest in getting the true history.. or in dealing with the hazards to get to the gold.
Beyond that, there's some trick we don't know yet keeping everyone else out that's hard to crack. Might require hearing the voice of all things.
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Might require hearing the voice of all things.
I'm not sure about this. The way Roger asked Whitebeard whether he wanted him to tell him how to get to Raftel makes it seem like anyone could do it (using that word carefully because of course not just anyone could find Raftel). We would have to assume that Whitebeard possessed the talent to hear the voice of all things and that Roger was aware of this. Looking at their relationship, the first would probably also entail the latter.
Anyways, it's still a possibility but I wouldn't personally count on it.
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I'm not sure about this. The way Roger asked Whitebeard whether he wanted him to tell him how to get to Raftel makes it seem like anyone could do it (using that word carefully because of course not just anyone could find Raftel). We would have to assume that Whitebeard possessed the talent to hear the voice of all things and that Roger was aware of this. Looking at their relationship, the first would probably also entail the latter.
Anyways, it's still a possibility but I wouldn't personally count on it.
My interpretation is that with the ability to hear the voice of all things, Poneglyphs and what ever else(Oda only knows) would show the way. Though I figure if one was told the way, maybe with a map and specific instructions one wouldn't absolutely NEED that ability. My guess is that White Beard didn't have such an ability and Roger was just going to give him specific instructions.
When the time comes and we actually get there I wonder what the reactions around the fandom would be? The reactions to the process of getting to Raftel I mean. I presume you can't fly there or just sail blindly. I wonder how satisfied people will be with what ever keeps the characters at bay?
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Ah, yes. I guess that if someone with the VOAT reads some Poneglyph (or whatever), they could pass that information on to anyone. In that case Roger could easily tell Whitebeard or anyone he wanted how to do it. Did not really consider that while writing my post.