The easy way around that is if she entirely transforms into a spider.
shw would still be a woman
to sanji it doesn't matter if it's cute or not,the problem is the gender,not the appearance
The easy way around that is if she entirely transforms into a spider.
shw would still be a woman
to sanji it doesn't matter if it's cute or not,the problem is the gender,not the appearance
At some point I guess Sanji has to fight a woman. No easy way out by switching with another Strawhat. He won't have any other choice than fighting her, otherwise for example someone who he cares for just will die.
…she'd be a spider?
I'm talking about full transformed.
I'm aware of this.
I doubt Sanji's chivalry would stop him from kicking female animals.
I don't really understand why sanji should stop considering a devil fruit user as a woman just because she changes in her full animal form@Bartholemew:
At some point I guess Sanji has to fight a woman. No easy way out by switching with another Strawhat. He won't have any other choice than fighting her, otherwise for example someone who he cares for just will die.
well,his chivalry didn't disappear when robin's life (and his own) was on the line
Any idea about Law position as a shichibukai? Is it revoked now or what?
Any idea about Law position as a shichibukai? Is it revoked now or what?
Yes, Fujitora revoked it a while ago, and even if a Admiral couldn't do that, official news of the two working together would be enough regardless.
Its more of a speculation more than anything else but I think that it was 7th Warlord that taken Kidds left arm.
Zephyr as an admiral lost his arm in fight with pirate that now is 7th Warlord so as much as its loose connection with Kidd also loosing arm to somebody I think it would be interesting to see Kidd also having arch-enemy in New World(Law having Doflamingo). But with difference to Laws enemy, they could have "fresh" history from somewhere in last 2 years.
That guy would have some serious problems with right arms then.
Its more of a speculation more than anything else but I think that it was 7th Warlord that taken Kidds left arm.
Zephyr as an admiral lost his arm in fight with pirate that now is 7th Warlord so as much as its loose connection with Kidd also loosing arm to somebody I think it would be interesting to see Kidd also having arch-enemy in New World(Law having Doflamingo). But with difference to Laws enemy, they could have "fresh" history from somewhere in last 2 years.
That would make the guy pretty crazy strong because I think the same guy did the scar on Akainu's face. If you compare his and Kidd's scars they look really similiar.
That would make the guy pretty crazy strong because I think the same guy did the scar on Akainu's face. If you compare his and Kidd's scars they look really similiar.
Akainus face has scars from fight with Aokiji.
So what you suggest is that Aokiji gave those scars to Kidd, even as I dont think he did, sure it would be somehow interesting option if Kidd has a history with Kuzan as to parallel a bit with Luffy-Akainu relation.
just saw Hanzo the razor, I have the feeling it will be the next Admiral.
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That guy would have some serious problems with right arms then.
Must… eradicate... right arms !!
I think that Kidd's "arch-ennemy" (if he has one) would be Shanks.
Zephyr as an admiral lost his arm in fight with pirate that now is 7th Warlord
There's absolutely no proof of that.
First: That movie is non-canon so any details like that could be as well. Second: It was never said when that person became a shichibukai so they might be a past or future warlord.
There's absolutely no proof of that.
First: That movie is non-canon so any details like that could be as well. Second: It was never said when that person became a shichibukai so they might be a past or future warlord.
Zephyr past is canon. It was hinted that this person became Warlord during time between start and end of Timeskip - Zephyr became rouge marine because of that specific pirate that cut off his arm became Warlord. So I think it is safe to assume that those things tie together.
Zephyr as an admiral lost his arm in fight with pirate that now is 7th Warlord
Z(if canon) was not an admiral at that time. He was a marine trainer.
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just saw Hanzo the razor, I have the feeling it will be the next Admiral.
http://www.dvdclassik.com/upload/images/galeries/film-hanzo-the-razor-l-enfer-des-supplices.jpg
Well, there was also this drawing of Oda, featuring Toshiro Mifune with horns.
Would make sense for him to include one of the if not THE most iconic japanese actor, as one of the admirals.
Well, there was also this drawing of Oda, featuring Toshiro Mifune with horns.
http://i.imgur.com/q94xgdx.jpgWould make sense for him to include one of the if not THE most iconic japanese actor, as one of the admirals.
yeah, that would be awsome! May be for the Wano arc…
I was thinking it would be Takakura Ken, unless Oda already homaged him in a way I'm blanking on.
Well, there was also this drawing of Oda, featuring Toshiro Mifune with horns.
http://i.imgur.com/q94xgdx.jpgWould make sense for him to include one of the if not THE most iconic japanese actor, as one of the admirals.
It even makes sense. Green bull. Horns.
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just saw Hanzo the razor, I have the feeling it will be the next Admiral.
It's a cute image, but seeing as how Shintaro Katsu is the same actor who played the Zatoichi that Fujitora is based on, probably not.
And despite the stuff Oda does get past the editors I don't think Hanzo's, er, 'special training' would ever get in the book.
It's a cute image, but seeing as how Shintaro Katsu is the same actor who played the Zatoichi that Fujitora is based on, probably not.
And despite the stuff Oda does get past the editors I don't think Hanzo's, er, 'special training' would ever get in the book.
oh, I didn't get it was zatoichi too, I was not all wrong then since the actor already an admiral…
and about special training and special power, mmmh well you are right ( poor Nami and Robin) couldn't fit the manga :D
Doflamingo is actually physically stronger than Kaidu. Kaidu's strength is "luck". In our case , Luffy was just Kaidu's luck in action. If this is true , could Luffy's destiny/luck throughout the entire series so far be a byproduct of Kaidu's luck preparing to take Dofly out just when Kaidu needed it?
Can buggy be cut dead by haki ? (cause mihawk didn't kill buggy in war)
And can haki avoid hex dfs ? Sorry if this questions were answered before
Can buggy be cut dead by haki ? (cause mihawk didn't kill buggy in war)
It's still a matter of some debate that can't really be settled due to lack of solid evidence.
For what it's worth, I subscribe to the idea that Buggy cannot be cut by haki.
Using CoA allows a haki user to target the "real" body beneath a devil fruit transformation.
Buggy, however, doesn't transform his body, he merely splits it.
So, logically, the haki user wouldn't be able to cut Buggy, no matter what.
And can haki avoid hex dfs ? Sorry if this questions were answered before
Judging from Smoker's warning to Tashigi on Punk Hazard when facing Law ("your haki isn't strong enough") and Doflamingo's commentary on the fight between Law and Vergo ("Vergo's haki is powerful enough to resist even your cutting abilites") that does seem to be the case.
We can also take into account that Doffy was able to smack Law around pretty effectively at close range and never suffered anything like the bisection that defeated Vergo.
It's still a matter of some debate that can't really be settled due to lack of solid evidence.
For what it's worth, I subscribe to the idea that Buggy cannot be cut by haki.
Using CoA allows a haki user to target the "real" body beneath a devil fruit transformation.
Buggy, however, doesn't transform his body, he merely splits it.
So, logically, the haki user wouldn't be able to cut Buggy, no matter what.
Oh look, a Razh-signal!
CoA allows users to override devil fruit defense. Buggy's defense is not being hurt by cuts. So he does get cut, but it does no damage. Add in some haki, and Buggy should be damaged. Zoro thought he had cut Buggy when they first met, which should mean Buggy's body doesn't separate just before the cut, but after it.
But there are unknowns, so…
CoA allows users to override devil fruit defense. Buggy's defense is not being hurt by cuts.
Haki doesn't automatically override any devil fruit defense.
Like I said, it allows transformational defenses to be overridden ie the haki user can directly touch and interact with the "real" body beneath a transformation.
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Buggy's abilities do not fall into the subset of DF abilities that can be override in such a fashion, going by Rayleigh's explanation.
But there are unknowns, so…
Indeed, but it's nice to speculate.
Haki doesn't automatically override any devil fruit defense.
Like I said, it allows transformational defenses to be overridden ie the haki user can directly touch and interact with the "real" body beneath a transformation.
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[/hide]Buggy's abilities do not fall into the subset of DF abilities that can be override in such a fashion, going by Rayleigh's explanation.
Rayleigh's explanation is a little too vague for a matter as technical as this one. There should be clear rules in the way Haki interacts with devil fruits, but we're still not aware of everything. So it falls down to individual interpretation.
Just thought it was fair that firelord hears a different school of thought. :ninja:
Rayleigh's explanation is a little too vague for a matter as technical as this one. There should be clear rules in the way Haki interacts with devil fruits, but we're still not aware of everything. So it falls down to individual interpretation.
Very true.
We'll probably never get a definitive answer tbh.
Just thought it was fair that firelord hears a different school of thought. :ninja:
Oh Razh, you generous scoundrel.
thanks robzilla by hex df I meant peronas and sugers df especially sugers
Buggy has such incredible df only if he could learn haki he could be invincible
Just thought some things about Blackbeard… Might as well share them here.
In this picture:
http://www.onepiecelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Marshall_D._Teach_as_Child.png
We can see that Blackbeard is crying during nighttime. This itself doesnt imply much.
However, when ace stated that BB has "lived twice as long as others". Even though he is only 40 years old.
My guess is that for some reason Blackbeard is unable to sleep. If thats the case, it is only natural that Ace and Marco knew that he was different, because they were in the same ship with him so long. And because of that, Aces statement about BBs "twice as long life" wont mean the actual lenght of his life, rather that how BB has experienced it because he never sleeps.
It seems that blackbeard is sad in his childhood picture. That could be because of loneliness, or, more interesting possiibility, fear of the dark that he must experience every night alone.
That might also be the reason why BB set his eyes to the yamiyami fruit. To be able to control his worst fear because he knows how terrifying the darkness may be. Kinda like Bruce Wayne becoming batman.
So, your thoughts? Of course this alone doesnt explain two devil fruits etc, but i think that this might be a part of the truth.
Haki doesn't automatically override any devil fruit defense.
Like I said, it allows transformational defenses to be overridden ie the haki user can directly touch and interact with the "real" body beneath a transformation.
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Indeed, but it's nice to speculate.
I agree with you, but against this interpretation there's this fact: why can Luffy be hurt, since he's rubber all the time?
I agree with you, but against this interpretation there's this fact: why can Luffy be hurt, since he's rubber all the time?
Luffy is permanently transformed, so the same rules apply to him in terms of overriding his defenses using haki.
I'm with the Buggy can be cut with haki camp. It just feels sensible that his df would have the same weakness as others. Not to mention that I have a hard time considering those bloodless, inside-organless pieces his "real" body, so to speak.
However, when ace stated that BB has "lived twice as long as others". Even though he is only 40 years old.
Wasn't it some kind of mistranslation and he actually said that Teach has lived twice as long as Ace?
The way I've always seen it with Buggy and haki, is that if being sliced by haki, his body won't automatically separate itself, but if he sees the attack coming he can preemptively separate his body so the blade just won't make contact.
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I'm with the Buggy can be cut with haki camp. It just feels sensible that his df would have the same weakness as others.
These are rules that have been laid down pretty specifically for transformational defences though.
I can't think of a point where another type of DF defense has been overridden with a CoA infused attack in the series so far.
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Not to mention that I have a hard time considering those bloodless, inside-organless pieces his "real" body, so to speak.
Oda did specifically say he didn't add blood and such to Buggy's splitting because it would "be too scary".
There genuinely doesn't seem to be any element of transformation when it comes to the Bara Bara no Mi.
The way I've always seen it with Buggy and haki, is that if being sliced by haki, his body won't automatically separate itself, but if he sees the attack coming he can preemptively separate his body so the blade just won't make contact.
This is pretty much how I see it.
Oda did specifically say he didn't add blood and such to Buggy's splitting because it would "be too scary".
There genuinely doesn't seem to be any element of transformation when it comes to the Bara Bara no Mi.
Yeah I know, just saying.
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Yeah I know, just saying.
Sweet, same here.
I don't think buggy can be cut by haki because he can't be cut at all, his real body is being separated kinda like how luffy can be hurt but if you try to snap his neck with hakified hands it still won't break, haki can't nullify a fruits ability only touch a logias real body, but if your real body is rubber it doesn't matter
Just my two cents
These are rules that have been laid down pretty specifically for transformational defences though.
I can't think of a point where another type of DF defense has been overridden with a CoA infused attack in the series so far.
Not exactly a defense, but Law's powers are supposedly counterable with Haki despite having nothing to do with transformations.
The way I see it, Haki is just the countermeasure for any DF power that goes too OP. Be it logia, another transformation or quick KOs like Law.
And since Buggy will never go too OP, I am pretty sure he will never get a Haki cut.
Not exactly a defense, but Law's powers are supposedly counterable with Haki despite having nothing to do with transformations.
The way I see it, Haki is just the countermeasure for any DF power that goes too OP. Be it logia, another transformation or quick KOs like Law.
Indeed, CoA seems to have a general shielding function when it comes to DF abilites.
However, the whole overriding defenses thing we've been talking about is a pretty specific caveat of CoA that doesn't really fall into that area.
And since Buggy will never go too OP, I am pretty sure he will never get a Haki cut.
Yeah, it's unlikely we'll ever get a definitive answer.
I am pretty sure he will never get a Haki cut.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It's not like Buggy's part is over yet, so why couldn't he end up rumbling with some haki user at some point?
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. It's not like Buggy's part is over yet, so why couldn't he end up rumbling with some haki user at some point?
It's not so much about his part being over but more so about his part being mostly comic in nature with him being no real threat for someone to use haki attacks to try and defeat him.
So, it seems like the original 3 Admirals' defining personality traits were based on their powers: Akainu gets very heated, Aokiji is always cool, and Kizaru takes everything lightly.
So my theory is that Fujitora always understands the gravity of the situation.
So won't Doflamingo drop dead if they put seastone cuffs on him? Since his devil fruit is keeping him alive from Laws attack?
So won't Doflamingo drop dead if they put seastone cuffs on him? Since his devil fruit is keeping him alive from Laws attack?
Criminals can be given medical treatment after arrest, you know?
The Marines will capture Caesar. Team Luffy is too OP already, and Caesar ultimately has nowhere to go and the SHs can't keep him prisoner forever.
Criminals can be given medical treatment after arrest, you know?
Who (not include law ) can keep inside of his body together?
Who (not include law ) can keep inside of his body together?
I think that Oda will pick "half dead" route. Meaning that as Laws attack would kill almost anybody, Mingo thanks to his power managed to keep his insides together and as he didnt died he will be handicaped/ weakened for rest of his life. Partially paralyzed and maybe even not able to speak would be my bet- it would make it possible for Oda to keep Doflamingo "alive" in story.
I think that Oda will pick "half dead" route. Meaning that as Laws attack would kill almost anybody, Mingo thanks to his power managed to keep his insides together and as he didnt died he will be handicaped/ weakened for rest of his life. Partially paralyzed and maybe even not able to speak would be my bet- it would make it possible for Oda to keep Doflamingo "alive" in story.
While I can't see this happening, you have no idea how badly I want this to happen. I want Doflamongo handicapped in some way or left with some outrageous reminder of his life destroying battle.
Has there been any lasting scars or marks on an enemy that the Straw Hats have faced? Best I can come up with is Duval, [laughs].
Who (not include law ) can keep inside of his body together?
any surgeon worth his name?