And finally a limit for Bartolomeo + new skills… Awesome
Even Luffy is amazed now... Just last week people said that Luffy doesn't like Bartolomeo
This limitation was clear since he failed to defend against Pica don't you think?
And finally a limit for Bartolomeo + new skills… Awesome
Even Luffy is amazed now... Just last week people said that Luffy doesn't like Bartolomeo
This limitation was clear since he failed to defend against Pica don't you think?
as excepted issho has the upper hand, but he was the nr 2 of the revolutionaries? :blink: and barto and cabbage as always make great scenes and robin and franky were awesome as well :wub:
Umm…..not sure what made you think that. He was talking to Sabo and said "so, you're not called the no.2 of the revolutionaries for nothing, eh"
@Myu:
This limitation was clear since he failed to defend against Pica don't you think?
Of course it was clfear but now with explanation
And BTW Robin is speaking to him with OUR captain <333
Is me reading to much or did Fuji at the end when he says "Gravy-Sword" he is implying that the Power of Gravity isn't his, but of his sword? Does this gives him another devil fruit power other than the gravity?
From now on, Fujitora will speak only on riddles.
Aokiji is Lazy Justice, Akainu is Absolute Justice,
…and Fujitora is Mystery Justice :ninja:
Umm…..not sure what made you think that. He was talking to Sabo and said "so, you're not called the no.2 of the revolutionaries for nothing, eh"
hmm in the mangajoy translation it seemed so that he was the former but yes in the mangapanda translation i just read it doesn't say that
All I could think of
i can no longer support becca. until earlier today i still hope to see her do something to diamante but instead she decided to run and scream for help. worst char of the arc for sure. shirahoshi did scream for help as well but she never shown as a fighter. she's shown as a cry baby from the very first. becca was shown to be a gladiator and a pretty good one at that. so what she did in this chapter is super bad. my chance and hope to finally see a physically strong and badass women char officially crumbled today. becca is not the one.
Luffy-Law VS Doffy
It's gonna be awesome v)
From now on, Fujitora will speak only in riddles.
He's been doing that like the entire arc, dropping vague comments without subject or object, making weird old-school references, and never actually saying anything.
So yeah, no changes.
He's one of those characters you want to beat his head in with a trout and demand to SPEAK NORMALLY LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING YOU LOON.
i can no longer support becca. until earlier today i still hope to see her do something to diamante but instead she decided to run and scream for help. worst char of the arc for sure. shirahoshi did scream for help as well but she never shown as a fighter. she's shown as a cry baby from the very first. becca was shown to be a gladiator and a pretty good one at that. so what she did in this chapter is super bad. my chance and hope to finally see a physically strong and badass women char officially crumbled today. becca is not the one.
Her style of fighting wasn't going to do her any good against 1 of the top executives of DoFlamingo's family…what the hell did you think she was gonna do?
Also, Sabo vs Fujitora, that made the chapter for me. That was epic. Time to see proper sword skills from the blind man.
Nice catch on the Kuma paw print.
Though that could be simply a cat paw print.
Kuma paw print… where?
Hmm, loved the scene with Robin. Got a ? for the guys than read the raw on what Robin says here
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Is this an accurate translation? Does Robin really talk to Barto and say "its worth trusting our captain with our lives" … is it the translation or is it just me thinking does it seem she's including Barto as part of the crew?
i can no longer support becca. until earlier today i still hope to see her do something to diamante but instead she decided to run and scream for help. worst char of the arc for sure. shirahoshi did scream for help as well but she never shown as a fighter. she's shown as a cry baby from the very first. becca was shown to be a gladiator and a pretty good one at that. so what she did in this chapter is super bad. my chance and hope to finally see a physically strong and badass women char officially crumbled today. becca is not the one.
There's always Robin.
And Baby 5, I guess.
It is confirmed. Rebecca will join… And her job will be non fighting member LOL
Of course it was clfear but now with explanation
And BTW Robin is speaking to him with OUR captain <333
So glad I'm not the only one to see that
Kuma paw print… where?
On the cop's building… although I figure it's just a generic paw, shape of his own paws, as a "paw of the law" like hand of the law. Ya know.
I have to repeat it… No matter if Bartolomeo will be left behind or he will join. HE IS PERFECT... Simply perfect with everything.
Even Luffy is now amazed by him and Rovin is speaking about OUR captain.
On the cop's building… although I figure it's just a generic paw, shape of his own paws, as a "paw of the law" like hand of the law. Ya know.
Ah thanks
Kuma paw print… where?
The toppled house in the cover story, but that's probably just a cat house or something.
@Rogues':
Aokiji is Lazy Justice, Akainu is Absolute Justice,
…and Fujitora is Mystery Justice :ninja:
Luffy's favorite kind.
Kuma paw print… where?
Hmm, loved the scene with Robin. Got a ? for the guys than read the raw on what Robin says here
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Is this an accurate translation? Does Robin really talk to Barto and say "its worth trusting our captain with our lives" … is it the translation or is it just me thinking does it seem she's including Barto as part of the crew?
I can't speak to the translation, but saying "our" doesn't mean anything here. She's giving a speech similar to the one Brook gave in Fishan Island when he said "Our Captain will be the king of the pirates…" She's referring to the straw Hat crew in general, not including Barto. Sadly.
When It's literally in the 'middle' of the sea you just question whether it has any meaning. I felt it was nothing of importance, not gonna insist on it though.
Anyway, ladies and gentleman, I'm afraid I will be taking a page from your own book, and ignoring the obviously bad stuff because of the stuff I like.
FUJI AND BARTO FOR THE WIN!
Thank you.
. . .And just like every damned week lately with One Piece, we can't have a 100% nice chapter, right? Oda needs to do something that will torn his whole audience and make people savagely scratch their heads in disbelief, right? Unless he does one of those at least once a week, he's not happy, isn't he?
I mean, up till the Rebecca part, I was willing to consider this one of the best chapters of the past months. And even when I'm one of those not dellusional enough to think Rebecca could stand against Diamante, holy shit, that was beyond Shirahoshi levels of being a crybaby. Hell, Shirahoshi had the GUTS to face the entire Noah ship all by herself in order to save Fishman Island. Rebecca, here, as even fucking facing her mother's killer, suddenly changed her preferences to "but I don't like to fight! I don't wanna! Please leave me alone!". . .THE FUCK WAS THAT? She doesn't like to fight but amidst this HUGE crisis that's stirring up your fucking country, can't you do one last effort? JUST THE LAST ONE? Did she really need to start hiding and running away pitifully?
Again, everything else was chock full of incredibly interesting things: Robin being awesome? nice! More Bartolomeo being great + new abilities? nice! Franky and Pink doing some fucking Synchronized Swimming? Holy shit I almost choke on my fucking coffe! Fujitora toying with Sabo while being. . .vague Fuji? nice enough! (plus that new attack is awesome), and the short pannels showing us Lao G keeping up with Chinjao and Baby5 going at it against Sai? As someone who loves both the Dofla Officers AND the Colosseum fighters, that was nice too!
So, with so much niceness, why did Oda need to do that crap with Rebecca? Goddammit. . . .
I have to repeat it… No matter if Bartolomeo will be left behind or he will join. HE IS PERFECT... Simply perfect with everything.
Even Luffy is now amazed by him and Rovin is speaking about OUR captain.
I think it's without any dispute this arc, Oda, granted us with lovely characters. You gotta give it to the man If he accomplishes that after all these years.
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Anyway, ladies and gentleman, I'm afraid I will be taking a page from your own book, and ignoring the obviously bad stuff because of the stuff I like.
FUJI AND BARTO FOR THE WIN!
Thank you.
Thank you Darth, have a good day. See you on the Kingdom thread. :)
Great chapter, a lot of cool scenes/moments, Barto doing the stairs was nice and a pretty creative way to use his fruit, Robin was awesome, Cavendish just saying he had to beat the puppets because they took his horse was pretty fun also, this arc has so many likable new characters and ofc Sabo vs Fujitora :D, kinda think Oda will tone it down next week and talk about Manshelly.
I didnt like that Rebecca just quit either but I want to see a decent translation, we all knew she couldn't beat Diamante anyway and her father saving her was expectable, the only thing I wasn't expecting was the quiting yeah.
I have to repeat it… No matter if Bartolomeo will be left behind or he will join. HE IS PERFECT... Simply perfect with everything.
Even Luffy is now amazed by him and Rovin is speaking about OUR captain.
Kishido thats so freaking annoying thats the only thing you talk now dude, calm down…most people like Barto, you dont need to say it 300 times a week that you want him to join because you like his character.
Also to the people talking about Robin saying our captain, she is talking about her crew but its Mangapanda anyway its probably badly translated.
. . .And just like every damned week lately with One Piece, we can't have a 100% nice chapter, right? Oda needs to do something that will torn his whole audience and make people savagely scratch their heads in disbelief, right? Unless he does one of those at least once a week, he's not happy, isn't he?
I mean, up till the Rebecca part, I was willing to consider this one of the best chapters of the past months. And even when I'm one of those not dellusional enough to think Rebecca could stand against Diamante, holy shit, that was beyond Shirahoshi levels of being a crybaby. Hell, Shirahoshi had the GUTS to face the entire Noah ship all by herself in order to save Fishman Island. Rebecca, here, as even fucking facing her mother's killer, suddenly changed her preferences to "but I don't like to fight! I don't wanna! Please leave me alone!". . .THE FUCK WAS THAT? She doesn't like to fight but amidst this HUGE crisis that's stirring up your fucking country, can't you do one last effort? JUST THE LAST ONE? Did she really need to start hiding and running away pitifully?
Again, everything else was chock full of incredibly interesting things: Robin being awesome? nice! More Bartolomeo being great + new abilities? nice! Franky and Pink doing some fucking Synchronized Swimming? Holy shit I almost choke on my fucking coffe! Fujitora toying with Sabo while being. . .vague Fuji? nice enough! (plus that new attack is awesome), and the short pannels showing us Lao G keeping up with Chinjao and Baby5 going at it against Sai? As someone who loves both the Dofla Officers AND the Colosseum fighters, that was nice too!
So, with so much niceness, why did Oda need to do that crap with Rebecca? Goddammit. . . .
You know, it feels a lot like Usopp's situation.
She might get some sort of redemption later.
Is me reading to much or did Fuji at the end when he says "Gravy-Sword" he is implying that the Power of Gravity isn't his, but of his sword? Does this gives him another devil fruit power other than the gravity?
Most likely he's able to use his gravity thru his sowrd, just the same way Croco-boy turns his non-DFuser-clothes into sand.
It is confirmed. Rebecca will join… And her job will be non fighting member LOL
her job will be getting rescued every arc.
because crap characters like Rebecca need to be flushed away from the next nakama thread.
Anyway, ladies and gentleman, I'm afraid I will be taking a page from your own book, and ignoring the obviously bad stuff because of the stuff I like.
Jesus Christ with a monkeyball in a handbasket. Even when you enjoy a chaoter you still have to act like this? For fuck's sake.
As much as she tries Rebecca is weak and a cry-baby. She didn't get to really be a fighter worth carrying the name.
She was trying her best with all the emotional stress and anxiety she has been going through and this was her breaking point. She was annoying, yes. She was annoyed. After the earlier emotional abuse Diamante gave her she was basically a ticking bomb. I find it more fitting she knew she was just lost rather than stupidly believing in herself when she is just a joke fighting wise.
@'T€:
@$;3297521']because crap characters like Rebecca need to be flushed away from the next nakama thread.
especially since we all know bonney will be the next female member.
Great chapter, a lot of cool scenes/moments, Barto doing the stairs was nice and a pretty creative way to use his fruit, Robin was awesome, Cavendish just saying he had to beat the puppets because they took his horse was pretty fun also, this arc has so many likable new characters and ofc Sabo vs Fujitora :D, kinda think Oda will tone it down next week and talk about Manshelly.
Kishido thats so freaking annoying thats the only thing you talk now dude, calm down…most people like Barto, you dont need to say it 300 times a week that you want him to join because you like his character.
Also to the people talking about Robin saying our captain, she is talking about her crew but its Mangapanda anyway its probably badly translated.
Well so much for any fondness I had for Rebecca. Just let the daddy take care of the bad guy, you can't protect anyone blah blah blah. It's not that she'd have to defeat Diamante by herself but… something else than "HELP ME SOLDIER SAN!!! :'("
Well at least Robin can finally get her solo battle. Rest of the chapter was good too. Barto is awesome and it's nice that his barriers have some limit.
@Nex:
I can't speak to the translation, but saying "our" doesn't mean anything here. She's giving a speech similar to the one Brook gave in Fishan Island when he said "Our Captain will be the king of the pirates…" She's referring to the straw Hat crew in general, not including Barto. Sadly.
However, she is saying to Barto after he did the same action that she spoke of,(risking his life for Luffy) so its not the same as Brook right?
Lets not forget that Robin is back to one of her early quirks - using nicknames for people based on appearance (Usopp=longnose-kun) or personality/job (Zoro- Mr.Bushido(kun), Sanji- Cook-san) when she called Barto "Birdy-kun". I've missed that quirk of hers!
I can't remember if she just used it for non-crewmembers or not… but doesn't really matter, I missed it
Hahaha Franky and Senior Pink are doing the most badass fight ever!
I'd be really quite surprised if Rebecca doesn't assist in Kyros' fight with Diamante and repay his protection.
One on one with Diamante, with no chance of winning she's terrified and opted to run away.
If a situation arises with Kyros about to die though, she'll find that missing resolve to at least influence the fight in some way, and allow Kyros to win.
Let's just all calm down.
On a side note, the Donquixote officers and Arena combatants seem to be playing the battle equivalent of chat roulette.
Lets not forget that Robin is back to one of her early quirks - using nicknames for people based on appearance (Usopp=longnose-kun) or personality/job (Zoro- Mr.Bushido(kun), Sanji- Cook-san) when she called Barto "Birdy-kun". I've missed that quirk of hers!
I can't remember if she just used it for non-crewmembers or not… but doesn't really matter, I missed it
Well, iirc, she used nicknames for her crewmates before the Enies Lobby arc because she didnt trust them or because she didnt want to get too attached to them. The only one she called by name was Luffy. After Enies Lobby, she called everyone by their name. If anything, it shows that she doesnt see Barto as close as her crewmates
The chapter was fucking awesome!!!!!
That is until the Rebecca part which I find disappointing. Screw Rebecca. -_-
Now about the part that I've enjoyed the most:
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! My God, I love Robin in this, especially when she looks menacing!! It's been a long time coming!
Fujitora plays proper rpg dice, he knows what he is talking about. :ninja:
Choose your weapon!
Anyway it was funny to see how both Diamante and Kyros agreed that Rebecca is useless and got to be protected :P
Shouldn't try to make her anything more than another weakling princess. The fact that she was in Colloseum and she was training with her father fooled us to think she could handle herself or at least…. TRY lol :) Good to see things got straight now.
You know, it feels a lot like Usopp's situation.
She might get some sort of redemption later.
It's just so frustrating. The rest of the chapter was exciting and spot-on to me, and then THAT had to happen. It's really frustrating that this is happening on my favorite manga.
Hell, "World of Men" was actually a pretty nice chapter too except. . .it had that moment that will tarnish it forever. Plus crying Manshelly. But the rest of that chapter was actually funny and creative in many ways, yet. . .it will never recover from that blow.
Here? I can see the same happening. It had tons of funny and creative stuff and the fact we're actually getting snippets of Sabo vs. Fuji I sure as hell WASN'T expecting and it's all fine and dandy and Robin getting the spotlight and. . .then this comes and probably tarnishes this chapter forever and ever. It's frustrating.
@Nex:
This panel really reinforces the idea that the terrible moment between the two was a poorly executed joke by Oda where the two go on and on about what it means to be a "man" and then have the least manly fight possible. Doesn't make it good, because he handled it in not the best way, but it definitely lessens the terribleness by a tiny bit.
Yeah, that's the first thing that popped up in my mind too. Oda still went too far with the joke, but it's even more obvious now that it was all that, a joke. I mean, Synch. Swimming is an exclusively girls sports, right? There you have your MANLY MEN battle!
That single pannel was one of the most hysterical and clever things Oda has done in all of 2014.
On a side note, the Donquixote officers and Arena combatants seem to be playing the battle equivalent of chat roulette.
Actually, Baby 5 and Sai were already facing off each other last time we saw them, so this is the closest to a 1 on 1 we'll probably get from that side of the conflict.
However, she is saying to Barto after he did the same action that she spoke of,(risking his life for Luffy) so its not the same as Brook right?
Lets not forget that Robin is back to one of her early quirks - using nicknames for people based on appearance (Usopp=longnose-kun) or personality/job (Zoro- Mr.Bushido(kun), Sanji- Cook-san) when she called Barto "Birdy-kun". I've missed that quirk of hers!
I can't remember if she just used it for non-crewmembers or not… but doesn't really matter, I missed it
It's not indicative of anything, in either Japanese or English. You can say "we" in Japanese meaning your own crew, and not necessarily including the person you're speaking to.
You're looking in too deeply I think.
Loved this chapter, it seems Sabo is up against a bit more than he can chew with Fujitora after all. Good to see the extent of Barto's ability too.
PS
It is shit… Will make a great one later on, whem I'm home
Damn Bart was awesome. And that whole Robin speech about our captain! Makes you dream about him joining the crew doesn't it? :)
Funny thing is that the entire thing completly contradicts her motivation for fighting in the tournament to begin with.
She was planning on killing Doflamingo, for crying out loud.
She also never showed that she was especially terrified of fighting up until now.
I don't feel that part is in character for her at all, actually.
But you know…
I don't care.
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It's not indicative of anything, in either Japanese or English. You can say "we" in Japanese meaning your own crew, and not necessarily including the person you're speaking to.
You're looking in too deeply I think.
Could you if possible please clarify on the issue with Issho being Nr 2 in the RA
I am surprised that the non seats family members are holding their own against don chinjao and the colosseum fighters.
Could you if possible please clarify on the issue with Issho being Nr 2 in the RA
Mangapanda being mangapanda aka terrible translation.
Could you if possible please clarify on the issue with Issho being Nr 2 in the RA
Your problem is reading mangajoy in the first place.
Does that clarify everything?
Yeah, that's the first thing that popped up in my mind too. Oda still went too far with the joke, but it's even more obvious now that it was all that, a joke. I mean, Synch. Swimming is an exclusively girls sports, right? There you have your MANLY MEN battle!
That single pannel was one of the most hysterical and clever things Oda has done in all of 2014.
Yeah, along with Rhythmic Gymnastics, Synchronized Swimming is officially a female-only sports for Olympics.
There are such thing as male RG and SS, but they're not recognized as official international sports by the committee.
I am surprised that the non seats family members are holding their own against don chinjao and the colosseum fighters.
It should not have been surprising for the fact that these are Doflamingo's own picked fighters.
People should not have underestimated them on the first place.