Some of you mentioned in the previous page to finally VS with the Admirals and you had a disagreement about the last Admiral that we have not seen yet (Green Bull)
For me it is like this:
Luffy vs Sakazuki
Zoro vs Issho
Sanji vs Borsalino
Jinbe vs Green Bull
And with the evidences we have so far I believe that Issho's df is Paramecia
And I hope that the new Admirals are one of each type of Devil Fruit (Borsalino Logia, Issho Paramecia & Green Bull obviously Zoan)
I'm just waiting for a legit spoiler…
deym new chapter is coming
I'm just waiting for a legit spoiler…
deym new chapter is coming
Where are the fake ones? Im bored
@The:
Some of you mentioned in the previous page to finally VS with the Admirals and you had a disagreement about the last Admiral that we have not seen yet (Green Bull)
For me it is like this:
Luffy vs Sakazuki
Zoro vs Issho
Sanji vs Borsalino
Jinbe vs Green BullAnd with the evidences we have so far I believe that Issho's df is Paramecia
And I hope that the new Admirals are one of each type of Devil Fruit (Borsalino Logia, Issho Paramecia & Green Bull obviously Zoan)
Why obviously Zoan?
The admirals must be stronger than that no? He wasn't even a vice-admiral befor so zoan seems a bit underpower to be an admiral out of the blue.
Obviously if the new 3 Admirals follow that pattern, we have a Logia and a 99% Paramecia so maybe Oda wants to make the 3rd one Zoan but that's my POV
And we most Zoan's until now are mid tier except some like Lucci, X Drake, Marco, Sengoku and maybe Jabra so why not a Powerfull one that can be an Admiral level
Besides Sengoku was Fleet Admiral and he is Zoan after all
@The:
Luffy vs Sakazuki
Zoro vs Issho
Sanji vs Borsalino
Jinbe vs Green Bull
Jinbe will never join the crew and Smoker will take Akainu
@The:
Some of you mentioned in the previous page to finally VS with the Admirals and you had a disagreement about the last Admiral that we have not seen yet (Green Bull)
For me it is like this:
Luffy vs Sakazuki
Zoro vs Issho
Sanji vs Borsalino
Jinbe vs Green BullAnd with the evidences we have so far I believe that Issho's df is Paramecia
And I hope that the new Admirals are one of each type of Devil Fruit (Borsalino Logia, Issho Paramecia & Green Bull obviously Zoan)
Exactly my thoughts.
@The:
Obviously if the new 3 Admirals follow that pattern, we have a Logia and a 99% Paramecia so maybe Oda wants to make the 3rd one Zoan but that's my POV
And we most Zoan's until now are mid tier except some like Lucci, X Drake, Marco, Sengoku and maybe Jabra so why not a Powerfull one that can be an Admiral levelBesides Sengoku was Fleet Admiral and he is Zoan after all
mythical zoan a to be precise which is even more rare than the logia. Marco and sengoku were mythical zoans. These are creatures that don't actually exist.
@Flipper:
I think the reason Im scared is because i don't want Doflamingo to get owned yet. Just a few more characters to stomp on and ill be happy.
I don't think you have reason to worry yet. After all, none of the three aces (Pica, Diamante and Trébol) have been defeated, not to speak of some of the others. We still have to learn of princess Monshere and of course there is the Kanjuro thing. Oda is also still to tell us what happened between Law and Doffy, and it seems likely to me that Fujitora might actually join the SH crew now that Birdcage is in place. So, tons of things going to happen before DD is taken
I don't think you have reason to worry yet. After all, none of the three aces (Pica, Diamante and Trébol) have been defeated, not to speak of some of the others. We still have to learn of princess Monshere and of course there is the Kanjuro thing. Oda is also still to tell us what happened between Law and Doffy, and it seems likely to me that Fujitora might actually join the SH crew now that Birdcage is in place. So, tons of things going to happen before DD is taken
Luffy will defeat Doffy, Zoro Pica, and some of the just rescued toys will defeat Diamante and Trebol. I am still interested to find out where Kanjuro is and what happened between Doffy and Law. But no way in hell will Fujitora join the straw hats. His fighting style is too much like Zoro. I am interested in when Jinbei will show up again.
And I would love if Mingo lists names of each person he wants killed and theeeeeeennnn we start Laws flashback :ninja:
I wonder if Doflamingo will put Fujitora on the kill list? He can't let him free after whats happened now. And after all, Fuji is the one who wants to dissolve the Shichibukai. Doffy can't be having that.
Can hazz Law flashback I've been lo0oking forward to since forever? I mean I thought we were gonna get it in Punk Hazard butyiss.. around now would be a perfect moment, like Law starts to explain about Birdcage and we get a flashback showing the Birdcage he likely encountered.
I'd be down with a flashback right at the cusp of total chaos. I think the Law-Doffy-Vergo flashback is gonna be really good too
also it would be too much of a tease if right at the moment when shit is at its absolute peak and Luffy's about to engage in the final showdown with Doflamingo, we get the flashback. I know that teasing is sort of Oda's style, but no, please no…
I dunno. We had Kizaru blinding his enemies with his light but we had nobody who would be able to turn places completely dark(or maybe we did with Blackbeard and his darkness sucking in even light).
Also I dont know if you are serious
I dont trust you after all the picking
Sounds like the kind of thing Oda would come up with to me. A rather silly, specific concept being turned into a legit power (in this case, light switches).
It wouldn't be the first time we have overlapping abilities either. Kizaru can blind people with light, but he can't turn his surroundings dark.
I love the fact that Pandaman is on Dressrossa.
I wonder if Doflamingo will put Fujitora on the kill list? He can't let him free after whats happened now. And after all, Fuji is the one who wants to dissolve the Shichibukai. Doffy can't be having that.
Dofla should name weak people so that Fuji and the SH will have to protect them instead of running after him. It would be stupid to name Fuji, people would prefer to go after Dofla than to go after a marine admiral !
If Doffy names only weak people, it would be like indirectly naming Luffy and the other SH. I do not think that Doffy will name off a bunch of weak people though. I think he will name the strong guys, like Luffy and co, and Luffy will have to get past them before getting to Doffy.
I also think that would be a lot more interesting than Luffy protecting a bunch of weak guys, and THEN going after Doffy.
As for Fuji, I doubt anyone would go after him, you're right, but I also think Doffy isn't going to let him waltz out of Dressrosa when all is said and done. Maybe Doffy himself will take care of Fuji. I don't really know.
If Doffy names only weak people, it would be like indirectly naming Luffy and the other SH. I do not think that Doffy will name off a bunch of weak people though. I think he will name the strong guys, like Luffy and co, and Luffy will have to get past them before getting to Doffy.
I also think that would be a lot more interesting than Luffy protecting a bunch of weak guys, and THEN going after Doffy.
As for Fuji, I doubt anyone would go after him, you're right, but I also think Doffy isn't going to let him waltz out of Dressrosa when all is said and done. Maybe Doffy himself will take care of Fuji. I don't really know.
The only way Doffy can take of Fuji is by turning him into a toy. All of the other option will backfire on him horribly.
The only way Doffy can take of Fuji is by turning him into a toy. All of the other option will backfire on him horribly.
Yeah, I can't say that I imagine Doffy can match or even defeat Fuji alone. He'll definitely need some help, but I can't imagine he's going to let Fuji go after everything that has happened, especially in the last couple of chapters. The big question is, what is Doffy plan for taking Fuji out? Becoming a toy may very well be his best option.
Regarding Fujis DF, when i first read one piece 11 ago and me and my friends were discussing what sort of DFs we would like to have and i came up with gravity :) i think the reasoning was excactly that it would allow me to fly aswell as crush people and call down space debree for massive destruction.
Really seems like a contender for the "Strongest Paramecia fruit" title along with the Gura Gura no Mi. By now the Ito Ito no Mi is defenitely top 5 aswell.
But has nobody commented on the fact that it overlaps with the Yami Yami no Mi? The difference is that Isshos fruit fseems to use Gravity in a more refined a controlled manner, while Teach can become a beacon of "infinte gravity" kinda like a mini black hoke and draw things thowards him (Kurozo, Black Hole) but unlikr Fuji he cannot make himself or objects fly nor crush people with pure gravitational force.
But has nobody commented on the fact that it overlaps with the Yami Yami no Mi? The difference is that Isshos fruit fseems to use Gravity in a more refined a controlled manner, while Teach can become a beacon of "infinte gravity" kinda like a mini black hoke and draw things thowards him (Kurozo, Black Hole) but unlikr Fuji he cannot make himself or objects fly nor crush people with pure gravitational force.
Teach creates and is darkness that is gravity. He is basically a living blackhole, consuming all in his path.
Fujitora uses the force to crush down people. It is not the same.
Still betting on Isho having Space Space fruit.
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Yeah, I can't say that I imagine Doffy can match or even defeat Fuji alone. He'll definitely need some help, but I can't imagine he's going to let Fuji go after everything that has happened, especially in the last couple of chapters. The big question is, what is Doffy plan for taking Fuji out? Becoming a toy may very well be his best option.
He cannot let Fuji go, but he cannot kill him, either. It is not even an issue of whatever he is strong enough to do it, he should know better than that. If he kills an Admiral (which I'm still convinced he has not enough forces to do so), Akainu goes after him. Probably with two other admirals following closely behind.
Teach can become a beacon of "infinte gravity" kinda like a mini black hoke and draw things thowards him (Kurozo, Black Hole)
Now you reminded me of that horror movie where they use a black hole to warp their sapceship and turns out going through hell. (Remember when BB explled that guard in Impel Down he was shouting "The darkness" {Or is it just in the anime? can't remember})
Nani?
Regarding Fujis DF, when i first read one piece 11 ago and me and my friends were discussing what sort of DFs we would like to have and i came up with gravity :) i think the reasoning was excactly that it would allow me to fly aswell as crush people and call down space debree for massive destruction.
Really seems like a contender for the "Strongest Paramecia fruit" title along with the Gura Gura no Mi. By now the Ito Ito no Mi is defenitely top 5 aswell.
But has nobody commented on the fact that it overlaps with the Yami Yami no Mi? The difference is that Isshos fruit fseems to use Gravity in a more refined a controlled manner, while Teach can become a beacon of "infinte gravity" kinda like a mini black hoke and draw things thowards him (Kurozo, Black Hole) but unlikr Fuji he cannot make himself or objects fly nor crush people with pure gravitational force.
Fujitora controls the planet's own natural gravity.
Teach, meanwhile, creates his own gravity, which is separate from the planet's gravity.
He cannot let Fuji go, but he cannot kill him, either. It is not even an issue of whatever he is strong enough to do it, he should know better than that. If he kills an Admiral (which I'm still convinced he has not enough forces to do so), Akainu goes after him. Probably with two other admirals following closely behind.
Right you are, and the government definitely knows that Fuji is ON Dressrosa right now. Doffy's plan is to kill everyone though, or at least the ones who won't keep their mouth shut, like Fuji, so I don't think Doffy is worried about the other Admirals. If he kills Fuji, Doffy can just pin his death on someone else.
BUT, the best option is to turn him into a toy, so that no one remembers he ever even existed.
One has total control over gravity, the other has it as a side effect in a limited way.
Now you reminded me of that horror movie where they use a black hole to warp their sapceship and turns out going through hell. (Remember when BB explled that guard in Impel Down he was shouting "The darkness" {Or is it just in the anime? can't remember})
Sixteen characters of Event Horizon?
Right you are, and the government definitely knows that Fuji is ON Dressrosa right now. Doffy's plan is to kill everyone though, or at least the ones who won't keep their mouth shut, like Fuji, so I don't think Doffy is worried about the other Admirals. If he kills Fuji, Doffy can just pin his death on someone else.
BUT, the best option is to turn him into a toy, so that no one remembers he ever even existed.
According to Law, Dofla wants to kill EVERYONE in the birdcage, my guess is he just wants them to fight themselvs, and than swoop down and kill the rest. No way he will leave a storng name like Fuji outside the list.
Nani?
Fujitora controls the planet's own natural gravity.
Teach, meanwhile, creates his own gravity, which is separate from the planet's gravity.
I wonder if Fuji can also control the gravity of something OTHER than the earth? Everything has gravity, even a man, though it is so small in comparison to something like the earth that it is hardly detectable. Fuji lowering the gravity of a man would have no discernible effect, and increasing the gravity of a man, well, he'd have to increase it QUITE a lot to give that any effect, so much so that the effects would be devastating (if he can even alter gravity to such a level). So I guess the question of if Fuji can alter the gravity of something other than the earth is quite a pointless one.
According to Law, Dofla wants to kill EVERYONE in the birdcage, my guess is he just wants them to fight themselvs, and than swoop down and kill the rest. No way he will leave a storng name like Fuji outside the list.
I'm starting to think that Doffy has seriously put himself into a corner. Kill everyone, the government is going to notice. Let a few live, the government will still notice a huge drop in the population. Leave enough to not have any large effect on the population, people will talk about what happened.
No option is a good one for Doffy. I think this entire bird cage scenario was a mistake. The moment Sugar fainted, he was screwed. If I was Doffy, I'd get Pika to relocate the Smile Factory to some other island deep in Kaidou territory and hope for the best.
The only other option is to turn all the people who were toys BACK into toys, but that is so unlikely that it is ridiculous.
Sixteen characters of Event Horizon?
Yea!!! I watched this movie when i was 13 I think. WHAT nightmers man…
You don't seem to understand how gravity works, do you?
As far as I know, everything has gravity. It is like a well in spacetime and it is proportionate to a thing's mass.
If Fuji's ability is the ability to affect something's mass, thus increasing its gravity, I can't imagine that he couldn't do that to a human as well. The amount of gravity a human possesses is inconsequential to a human. Fuji would have to increase it substantially for it to harm that human.
If Fuji's ability is to affect something's mass, like a part of the planets, he'd only have to increase it a few times over to cause harm to a human, while, like I said, he'd have to increase it many times over upon a human to hurt that human, thus, it doesn't matter if Fuji can affect the gravity of things other than the planet.
But do forgive me if I do not understand. I have very little understanding of how gravity actually works, and I'm going off my layman knowledge. I work in the design field, and haven't had a good dose of science in quite a few years. If you'd like to explain, I'd be happy to hear.
Thanks!
Right now Doffy's plan is a lose-lose situation but we don't know yet what excatly is his plan. Either way plot wise he is screwed
Teach creates and is darkness that is gravity. He is basically a living blackhole, consuming all in his path.
Fujitora uses the force to crush down people. It is not the same.
Still betting on Isho having Space Space fruit.
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He cannot let Fuji go, but he cannot kill him, either. It is not even an issue of whatever he is strong enough to do it, he should know better than that. If he kills an Admiral (which I'm still convinced he has not enough forces to do so), Akainu goes after him. Probably with two other admirals following closely behind.
Why do you bother pointing out the differences and telling me its not the same when i did exactly that in my post to begin with ? im just saying, there is some overlapping here as both fruits involve manipulating gravity
@The:
Right now Doffy's plan is a lose-lose situation but we don't know yet what excatly is his plan. Either way plot wise he is screwed
Not exactly. The government doesn't know what is going on, and if he able to silence everyone then they will have no concrete proof to charge him with any crimes. It will simply be another great mystery of Dressrosa.
Why do you bother pointing out the differences and telling me its not the same when i did exactly that in my post to begin with
Shiki and Ms. Valentine also manipulate gravity to a certain extent.
Probably Machvise too.
Not exactly. The government doesn't know what is going on, and if he able to silence everyone then they will have no concrete proof to charge him with any crimes. It will simply be another great mystery of Dressrosa.
I'm not totally sure silencing the entire country will give Doffy a free pass. I can just imagine Doffy saying: "I don't have a clue what happened." And the government responding with "It just so happens that everyone died, except you and your crew…" I think his connection with the Celestial Dragons can give him some leeway, but I don't know...
At the very least, Dragon will suspect something when Sabo and the other Revolutionaries don't report in.
But, I've just realized you said 'silence' and not 'kill'. What are the options to silence all of Dressrosa without killing them? Well, Doffy could either turn them all to toys, or keep the ones alive who'd keep their mouth shut. Neither seem very viable at the moment...
Was it ever specified if Smoker told anyone in the marines that Dofla is Joker? Otherwise this might be Fuji's reason for being there?
Several groups have there eyes on the island right now. The revolutionaries have their number 2 on the island and just got back memories of certain members of their army, the marines had quite a few of their organisation turned to toy as well and the celestial dragons have CP0 there (they work for them right or do they work for the WG?)?
How can there not be a shitload of people heading for the island as we speak?
Even if he make everyone in the island toy or kill him there a shit ton of Big names like an Admiral, 2 Vice Admirals, a lot big names of Pirates, The 2nd in command of Revos etc etc
They can't just everyone forgive the existence of all of them
BUT the most bad thing for Doffy IF he can win this battle (plot wise, he cant) is Big Mom's ship and the rest SH's and Heart Pirates. IF he win this battle he must have to choise between 2 Yonko and the other one is going to AT LAST kill him
Someone probably said this before, but do you think it possible that Law had to fight and probably kill Cora-san to survive a previous birdcage?
Knowing Oda it would be more likely that Cora-san killed himself to save Law in a previous birdcage…
If I write something wrong, excuse my english….
No early spoilers? Life sucks :/
Hurr seen that theory around somewhere.
I haven't been reading much of the threads lately, not much free time, so yeah I imagine that lots of people posted it…
If I write something wrong, excuse my english….
Was it ever specified if Smoker told anyone in the marines that Dofla is Joker? Otherwise this might be Fuji's reason for being there?
Several groups have there eyes on the island right now. The revolutionaries have their number 2 on the island and just got back memories of certain members of their army, the marines had quite a few of their organisation turned to toy as well and the celestial dragons have CP0 there (they work for them right or do they work for the WG?)?
How can there not be a shitload of people heading for the island as we speak?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Though they remember them and I guess knew they were on dressrosa, but they can't be sure if they are still on the island. And unless they are in the new world it will take awhile for them to arrive and birdcage situation will have been resolved
