@DEE:
Urouge is Dog *
Urouge got owned by A Pacifista.. and sent flyin' by Kizaru.
Urouge is Dog's sh*t.
so Urouge is sh*t. :D
Get out of this thread. Now.
@DEE:
Urouge is Dog *
Urouge got owned by A Pacifista.. and sent flyin' by Kizaru.
Urouge is Dog's sh*t.
so Urouge is sh*t. :D
Get out of this thread. Now.
You don't know why he became a shichibukai.
From his invitation letter: Moshi moshi Dracule-san, we know you are a mighty swordsman, probably the best, who's been fighting Shanks throughout your whole twenties. We know you don't raid islands and are a loner on top of that. Why don't you allow us to make you a warlord, so you can do whatever you've been doing until now and we won't send vice-admirals and admirals after you that might as well come back in two halves? Sounds like a deal, right?
Sincerely Sengoku 'the strategist and Buddha'
admirals are really underrated in the fandom
From his invitation letter: Moshi moshi Dracule-san, we know you are a mighty swordsman, probably the best, who's been fighting Shanks throughout your whole twenties. We know you don't raid islands and are a loner on top of that. Why don't you allow us to make you a warlord, so you can do whatever you've been doing until now and we won't send vice-admirals and admirals after you that might as well come back in two halves? Sounds like a deal, right?
Sincerely Sengoku 'the strategist and Buddha'
Also, his position may invite more challengers to "break his boredom".
From his invitation letter: Moshi moshi Dracule-san, we know you are a mighty swordsman, probably the best, who's been fighting Shanks throughout your whole twenties. We know you don't raid islands and are a loner on top of that. Why don't you allow us to make you a warlord, so you can do whatever you've been doing until now and we won't send vice-admirals and admirals after you that might as well come back in two halves? Sounds like a deal, right?
Sincerely Sengoku 'the strategist and Buddha'
nope he was definitely a pirate. a shichibukai is a former pirate after all. so most likely he would do whatever he wants and takes orders from no one. By signing up as a shichibukai, he was given a island worth hundreds of billions of beri and his own monkey buddies. The plus side is that he won't get bothered by navy weaklings like vice admirals and admirals during his wine time. Can't you see that rebellious reasoning when he said "nope, going back to drinking my wine, didn't sign up to fight red hair. buh-bye guys!"
admirals are really underrated in the fandom
because they are dogs of the world government. the WG is trash for allowing World Nobles get away with everything. They are bigger pirates than any Emperor.
nope he was definitely a pirate. a shichibukai is a former pirate after all. so most likely he would do whatever he wants and takes orders from no one. By signing up as a shichibukai, he was given a island worth hundreds of billions of beri and his own monkey buddies. The plus side is that he won't get bothered by navy weaklings like vice admirals and admirals during his wine time. Can't you see that rebellious reasoning when he said "nope, going back to drinking my wine, didn't sign up to fight red hair. buh-bye guys!"
He was "given" the island?
admirals are really underrated in the fandom
Entire goverment side is underrated. Nothing new here, to be honest.
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Mihawk is the most overrated character in One Piece, don't bother.
I would argue Shanks. But swordsman in general are overrated.
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You serious? Whitebeard defeated Akainu in 2 shots at his weakest and the other 2 admirals couldn't defeat Marco or Jozu without cheap tricks.
Oh by the gods, you cannot be serious.
Either both of those use cheap tricks, or neither does. Pick one and stick to it.
Because attacking Akainu from behind is not in any way less cheaper then Aokiji freezing Jozu's arm while he had his head turned.
More so, Akainu gave Whitebeard the most gruesome injury out of all combatants that face him.
More so, Whitebeard, as you argueing, while stronger was unable to injure any of three admirals signitificantly during their short clashes.
Both solid blows landed on Aokiji are suprise attacks.
The only solid blow landed on Kizaru during entire war was completly inneffectual.
Whitebeard, using full power of his fruit and haki, since neither of those require good health, was unable to KO Akainu. Who then proceed to curbstomp Ivankow, Inazuma, Jimbei and then faced with every Whitebeard commander still on his feet, and Crocodile, hold his own, while managing to defeat another one.
Pirates did not defeated any Admirals.
How in the bloody hell you guys came to the conclusion that the side in control of the battlefield entire time was the weaker one, I will never know.
Hell, the only reason Ace was rescued from that stand was luck.
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He could have taken out the bay walls, cleared the fodder, cannons, stuff like that. If Ace wasn't on Marineford, it's possible Whitebeard could have sunk it without even coming that near to it. His ability is that broken, so it's clear why WG didn't even try to fight him, until they had one of his most important crewmen captured.
Ah, you meant that way. Then I agree.
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Yes, but if the marines go and bustercall the base island of a yonkou, a thing that most likely neither Shanks nor Blackbeard have, and Whitebeard didn't seem to have, they would move to the next one.
Also, about status Quo, we know that Fuji wants to stir it up by getting rid of the 7Warlords, Akainu is massing up forces I hope to enforce it (probably destroy raftel, or move marine HQ there if that's impossible). The marines seems to be feed up with the status quo, but it couldn't happen before because plot, or because Sengoku (and Kong) didn't want to take the risk to avoid bloodshed, or the Emperors rampaging in the blues or something crazy.
Fleet admiral Sakazuki is probably gathering enough forces to crush whatever emperor gets distracted, and with the rookies preparing to rampage themselves, most of them will fail, but if they leave a big enough hole for the marines to go through, then the marines could take the chance.
Yeah, agreed on this one. Considering he likes to manipulate people, I would not be suprised if his actions are tuned towards making both Supernova and Yonkou bleed each other out, and then take them out in one swoop.
It is a sound strategy, any way you look at it.
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The WB alliance started off at a huge disadvantage, and even managed to rescue Ace for a moment. It wasn't like the Marines let the WB pirates get him.
Eh… they did? Or do you not recall that there was Garp between them and Ace? Garp that allowed his grandchild to knock him out? Something he would almost certainly not do for anyone else?
Or Sengoku taking his sweet ass time to attack all of them once they reached the stand? He has enough physical to hold Garp down, he should have just kick Luffy of the platform, and let him climb again. This time with Admirals on his back.
I said that Mihawk is probably stronger than admiral, because simply imagine it like that : Kizaru couldn't do anything against an old rayleigh. just imagine when he was younger and stronger? Imo he was atleast admiral level…. therefore going by shonen formula, Luffy is going to be PK which means as strong as Roger, and Zoro is going to be his first mate which mean as strong as rayleigh, and because Mihawk is probably hi last opponent then simply Mihawk is at least stronger the admiral.
1+1=2.
And I'm really not underestimating admirals, but people simply can't believe that there is other character that are stronger, just imagine it like that : the marine are only the CREW of the world government, therefore a crewmate (admiral) can not defeat the captain (a yonko).
1+1=2.
I said that Mihawk is probably stronger than admiral, because simply imagine it like that : Kizaru couldn't do anything against an old rayleigh. just imagine when he was younger and stronger? Imo he was atleast admiral level…. therefore going by shonen formula, Luffy is going to be PK which means as strong as Roger, and Zoro is going to be his first mate which mean as strong as rayleigh, and because Mihawk is probably hi last opponent then simply Mihawk is at least stronger the admiral.
1+1=2.And I'm really not underestimating admirals, but people simply can't believe that there is other character that are stronger, just imagine it like that : the marine are only the CREW of the world government, therefore a crewmate (admiral) can not defeat the captain (a yonko).
1+1=2.
The problem with that is that I cannot in clear conscience treat that Kizaru fight as serious.
Without seeing other Yonkou, I'm going to say that fight betwen one of them and one of the Admirals would be a coin toss.
And only because every time Admirals with strong pirates they are handed idiot ball.
And I'm really not underestimating admirals, but people simply can't believe that there is other character that are stronger, just imagine it like that : the marine are only the CREW of the world government, therefore a crewmate (admiral) can not defeat the captain (a yonko).
1+1=2.
There you have it folks. Akainu couldn't melt a fat lady because he's not the president of World Government.
There you have it folks. Akainu couldn't melt a fat lady because he's not the president of World Government.
Well, there is that theory that every Gorosei is an extremly powerful fighter.
But bloody hell is my man Akainu underestimated. Or any Admiral, really.
Not saying that Yonkou are not stronger, but one on one fight with the Admiral would most definetly prove most challenging.
I said that Mihawk is probably stronger than admiral, because simply imagine it like that : Kizaru couldn't do anything against an old rayleigh. just imagine when he was younger and stronger? Imo he was atleast admiral level…. therefore going by shonen formula, Luffy is going to be PK which means as strong as Roger, and Zoro is going to be his first mate which mean as strong as rayleigh, and because Mihawk is probably hi last opponent then simply Mihawk is at least stronger the admiral.
1+1=2.And I'm really not underestimating admirals, but people simply can't believe that there is other character that are stronger, just imagine it like that : the marine are only the CREW of the world government, therefore a crewmate (admiral) can not defeat the captain (a yonko).
1+1=2.
Buddy, this isn't how One Piece works.
The problem with that is that I cannot in clear conscience treat that Kizaru fight as serious.
I could have agreed if it was the marineford war, but no sorry i don't agree
Kizaru seemed really bothered when Rayleigh showed up http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-512-page-3.html
Kizaru said you are holding a marine admiral http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-513-page-11.html
Like I said if this fight was in the war context then I may have agreed with you, because in the war the admiral was not obliged to obliterate every single life all they have to do was to hold pirates back. But here Kizaru was really pressed if he could have defeated rayleigh he would have done it.
Razh sorry didn't understand what you meant…
I could have agreed if it was the marineford war, but no sorry i don't agree
Kizaru seemed really bothered when Rayleigh showed up http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-512-page-3.html
Kizaru said you are holding a marine admiral http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-513-page-11.htmlLike I said if this fight was in the war context then I may have agreed with you, because in the war the admiral was not obliged to obliterate every single life all they have to do was to hold pirates back. But here Kizaru was really pressed if he could have defeated rayleigh he would have done it.
No, I think he got screwed up story wise.
I mean, come on. He has a short distance teleport which he doesn't need to charge, long distance which he does, lightning speed kicking, large scale AoE, lasers, and lightsaber. He only uses the last one in this fight. I think we can say he did not go all out.
Dofla won't name Fuji. First because no one would go after an admiral, then because it would make Fuji himseld go after Dofla as the best solution to protect the people. Finally because Dofla has other options to deal with Fuji (when Sugar wakes up, she can turn him into a toy; and Dofla is a shichi but also a world noble so can use his influence to silence him).
Dofla won't name Fuji. First because no one would go after an admiral, then because it would make Fuji himseld go after Dofla as the best solution to protect the people. Finally because Dofla has other options to deal with Fuji (when Sugar wakes up, she can turn him into a toy; and Dofla is a shichi but also a world noble so can use his influence to silence him).
He is not a world noble.
And even if he was, that's not enough to silence Fuji. Not with Akainu around.
And more to the point, Sugar is probably not waking any time soon.
DD clearly believe he can get it done aginst everybody with his whole crew still complete after all, otherwise he wouldn't have used the birdcage. He is going to name every major player actually in dressrosa including fuji.
Razh sorry didn't understand what you meant…
Was just joking.
Can't observe WG as a pirate crew. For pirater crews in One Piece, the rule is that the captains are the strongest. WG and marines are a different organization. For example, it wasn't quite clear if Sengoku, the fleet admiral was stronger than admirals. It wasn't even clear if he was stronger than Garp, a vice admiral or how Garp can be compared to admirals. Pan fleet admiral is an old man, probably strong, but I doubt he's the strongest in marine force.
Then there are these 2 new admirals that may or may not be as strong or stronger than the old ones.
I don't see why a first mate from one crew can't be stronger than a captain from another.
Advice of the week: You don't start a discussion about the Navy with Darth.
By signing up as a shichibukai, he was given a island worth hundreds of billions of beri and his own monkey buddies.
Kuraigana Island was the home of the fallen Shikkearu Kingdom, Mihawk only owns the castle as it was empty to begin with.
is there no jump this week?
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I'm not going to even bother reading whatever you wrote to me because I know it's full of crap. Everyone on this site knows you're a bias marine fanboy. I already know that your argument is terrible, as they have been.
and by the way, that Darth
dude is not open minded at all, what that Mirage dude tries to say is really plausible, plus he include some data to support his claim, but that Darth
dude doesn't want to accept that someone proves him wrong. :getlost:
Which is why I frequantly acknowledge my own mistakes on those very forums.
His theory is as plausible as mine. If you have more evidence then "I think" to back it up, show it. Like Kizaru being clearly anything but stopped in the fight in which he used very little of his skills.
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I'm not going to even bother reading whatever you wrote to me because I know it's full of crap. Everyone on this site knows you're a bias marine fanboy. I already know that your argument is terrible, as they have been.
Wow. I'm most certainly hopeless in face of such tactics.
And you are bias Yonkou fanboy. And? Does that make your arguments worthless? I most certainly hope so.
I absolutly despise people like you, you know?
any now know if there is jump this week
I'm not going to even bother reading whatever you wrote to me because I know it's full of crap. Everyone on this site knows you're a bias marine fanboy. I already know that your argument is terrible, as they have been.
Darth is right though
This thread in a nutshell.
"akainu got curbstomped by whitebeard"
"no, whitebeard got curbstomped by akainu"
"bawww akainu is the best because… [page long essay by someone about how circumstantial the evidence was, without mentioning same goes to the other side of the conflict]"
"b-but whitebeard in his prime could…"
"disregard the whitebeard, he couldn't scratch an admiral within the crowd of millions people around"
"bawww akainu is the best because... [page long essay by someone about how circumstantial the evidence was, without mentioning same goes to the other side of the conflict]"
"b-but muh balance of the world"
"akainu was enough to stop whitebeard and if other admirals weren't fucking around because of their fucking character traits and fucking plot they would end the war in 3 chapters"
"but my superiority of the yonkou to admirals"
"wait, there's a break this week?"
Holy fucking shit guys, just go watch Mortal Kombat if you want such discussion.
It's really annoying as fuck to talk about the same thing every page, this isn't Bleach where a certain established position in the group dictates the strength of all of the people involved, for all I care, there could be several not yet mentioned characters that could wipe the floor with Akainu, see a recent powerhouse out of nowhere, Fujitora.
This discussion is shit, a couple of recent weeks especially. Some of you sound like broken records.
Don't remember anyone having such lenghty discussions in Mortal Kombat.
With regard to the actual thread. If Mingo wants to really become the pirate king, as Monet says over the den den mushi. Why is he sitting around in Dressrosa being Kaido's whipping boy producing smiles? How is creating the business…. 'all part of the plan?'
Why doesn't he just crack on to the end of the Grand line? I hope there is a big sexy plot explanation for Doflams prolonged antics.
With regard to the actual thread. If Mingo wants to really become the pirate king, as Monet says over the den den mushi. Why is he sitting around in Dressrosa being Kaido's whipping boy producing smiles? How is creating the business…. 'all part of the plan?'
Why doesn't he just crack on to the end of the Grand line? I hope there is a big sexy plot explanation for Doflams prolonged antics.
He was probably preparing. It's all part of the plan probably. I hope he still has some hidden objectives and aces in his sleeves because it would be lame if everything he achieved can be taken down in 2 days by a barely organized bunch.
He was probably preparing. It's all part of the plan probably. I hope he still has some hidden objectives and aces in his sleeves because it would be lame if everything he achieved can be taken down in 2 days by a barely organized bunch.
I couldn't agree more, particuarly with the words 'barely organised,' Doflamingo isn't some barbarian like Hordy. I would lose a lot of faith in the writing if Doflam. gets the boot particuarly as he was consciously shown to not underestimate them. I think it would be a good to perhaps show the Straw Hats getting way in over their heads for a change.
I hope there is some big ass flashback aswell showing Doflam. fighting … like, Kaido, Whitebeard or something. Dunno, love a filthy flashback.
In days and discussions like these… I wish, that Griffin makes a comeback
:ninja:
Either Zorro or Kuzan yes Aokiji will help to remove this Bird cage.
He was probably preparing. It's all part of the plan probably. I hope he still has some hidden objectives and aces in his sleeves because it would be lame if everything he achieved can be taken down in 2 days by a barely organized bunch.
Well, given the Suit Room, he has built a house of cards.
in the first place i don't understand the point of reading a pirates manga without liking them. it's like playing mario just to die before rescuing the princess, but this is my problem, everybody is free to do what he likes.
but let put it this way, Darth guy is right and akainu is the bestest, nobody has ever been so strong, smart ecc. yet we know he's going to be defeated before the end of the story, so what? we got to read complains about this every week? seriously? until the end and over?
anyway, not that i care, it makes every thread pretty boring tho, makes me want to stop checking the forum
Well, given the Suit Room, he has built a house of cards.
I like that. Maybe Oda decided to bo meta about it all.
Jumping in here.
Mihawk settled for a shikibukai title because he doesn't give a crap. He wants the freedom to do whatever he wants so being a shikibukai suits him perfectly. He doesn't seem to have a strong crew to back him up so being a yonkou seems out of the question, and he seems to have very little interest in ruling.
He probably has the power to gain a much higher title and even maybe go after OP, but he just dosen't seem to care for it.
Jumping in here.
Mihawk settled for a shikibukai title because he doesn't give a crap. He wants the freedom to do whatever he wants so being a shikibukai suits him perfectly. He doesn't seem to have a strong crew to back him up so being a yonkou seems out of the question, and he seems to have very little interest in ruling.
He probably has the power to gain a much higher title and even maybe go after OP, but he just dosen't seem to care for it.
He's like Houken of One Piece. A Bushin!
in the first place i don't understand the point of reading a pirates manga without liking them. it's like playing mario just to die before rescuing the princess, but this is my problem, everybody is free to do what he likes.
Lots of people are more interested in the villains than the heroes. It's a quite common thing.
Look at all the Croc wank around here since he was first introduced. He eclipses every strawhat except Sauron when it comes to vocal fans
I never really liked Akainu. His constant seriousness seems out of place in a whacky story such as this. He'd be better suited for a WW2 story as a captain of a battleship in the Pacific or something.
At least his character isn't 2 dimensional. He does believe he works for the greater good and he's not merciless, as his clash with Aokiji showed. But I think I'll need to see more of a characterization before he becomes likeable to me.
Me i'm more interested in when the shiny monkey is going to become more than a walking, insanity driven, weapon.
But as we all know Garp and blue bird are where it's at in terms of likeable marines
Lots of people are more interested in the villains than the heroes. It's a quite common thing.
Look at all the Croc wank around here since he was first introduced. He eclipses every strawhat except Sauron when it comes to vocal fans
I nearly reacted out of turn there until I remembered that Zoro is Sauron and Sanji is Sunkist.
Then I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement.
I nearly reacted out of turn there until I remembered that Zoro is Sauron and Sanji is Sunkist.
Then I agreed wholeheartedly with the statement.
The least wanked characters are probably liar boo and Neko Lowbun.
How about likable government officials?
I think that Gorbachev Gorosei has potential.
The least wanked characters are probably liar boo and Neko Lowbun.
I miss the S.S. Go Forward, so much better than Thousand Suns.
Lots of people are more interested in the villains than the heroes. It's a quite common thing.
Look at all the Croc wank around here since he was first introduced. He eclipses every strawhat except Sauron when it comes to vocal fans
Who is Croc? I only know Clock.
But yeah, Clock Dell's fanbase is quite impressive.
Power levels:
Yonkou - admirals - warlords
There are exceptions to this. Mihawk consistently ties with a yonkou, Shanks. He's probably as good as an admiral or better.
Power levels:
Yonkou - admirals - warlords
There are exceptions to this. Mihawk consistently ties with a yonkou, Shanks. He's probably as good as an admiral or better.
Even if you could be generally right, I can clearly see you being crushed anytime soon for these reasons: naming power levels, making clearly Admirals one step under Yonkou, overrating myself (thank you, btw).
It's certainly a generalization. That's why I said there were exceptions.
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