Cool ways to leave AP:
1. Porn posting rampage.
2. WWE style scathing promo post condemning the forum staff.
3. Bomb threat to Cartoon Network.
4. Perona goatse.
5. Bowing out respectfully.
Bad ways to leave AP
1. B.S. strawmen about being disrespected and whining when people don't lavsh you with attention.
THREE, count 'em, THREE FANS! Now that's what I call a cult classic! And that's what I live for.
@Steven:
Cool ways to leave AP:
1. Porn posting rampage.
2. WWE style scathing promo post condemning the forum staff.
3. Bomb threat to Cartoon Network.
4. Perona goatse.
5. Bowing out respectfully.
Bad ways to leave AP
1. B.S. strawmen about being disrespected and whining when people don't lavsh you with attention.
Aw man, then that means i would have to leave the forum after doing it?
Remember that no matter what may come to pass and what arguments we may have, none of us will ever be this guy.
Hey… I got a joke about the pope... "What should the pope be called?? THE POOPE!!!" AHAHAHAHAHA!! I'm dying! :D Poope! Because he's poop! :D
Hey… I got a joke about the pope... "What should the pope be called?? THE POOPE!!!" AHAHAHAHAHA!! I'm dying! :D Poope! Because he's poop! :D
Yeah but the problem is the unjust ETERNALNESS of said punishment
God if just, so if God knows, that something is unjust, God won't do it. So if eternal punishment is unjust, it won't happen.
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Nah… I'm leaving because you don't want me here.
Kind of a no-brainer, isn't it? Nobody wants to listen to what the freak has to say (over and over and OVER again), eventually she's going to stop wasting her time talkin'.
Like why would I stay someplace where my fundamental values, morals, ideals, and beliefs are not respected? Where I am continuously crying out into emptiness? Why?
And now I know that I DO have a community. There's no need for me to stay here.But one last thing:
THREE, count 'em, THREE FANS! Now that's what I call a cult classic! And that's what I live for.
You know people actually don't know, how they offend you and why you feel hurt. I think they sorta project their own perspective on you and from that point they don't see anything bad. And since they don't see anything unfavourable in their own behaviour, so when you started to be all bitter about it they started to think you are in the wrong.
You are not wrong, but than again the way you act probably isn't very helpful in resolving the conflict and making them understand what do you mean.
"I'm a bad guy! I don't save the day, I don't fly off to the sunset and I don't get the girl! I'm going home." - MegaMind
I think they sorta project their own perspective on you
I reckon everybody does that, more or less.
I reckon everybody does that, more or less.
the problem is they think the perspective, they projected is actually perspective of other person.
There are situations when doing that leads to conflicts.
At least we all want to see you happy here.
What's funny is that I ALMOST believed you, until I looked at what has actually been said.
@Monkey:
Too many Mao Zedongs, not enough Zhou Enlais.
Story of the world.
Got compared to Chairman Mao and indirectly blamed for the problems that face the world.
That's gonna make a transgender activist who would like nothing more than to help people and solve the world's problems, feel REAL good about herself and her impact.
Just because some people get too heated shouldn't preclude rational discussion on the topic when it comes up. It is, in fact, important, and we shouldn't let the most obnoxious people dominate the dialogue
Got called obnoxious and irrational. I would have thought that after I explained over and over again why it's a form of silencing to dismiss the emotional responses of a non-dominant group as "irrational", that nobody would actually DO IT. But I guess I was wrong. And furthermore, I guess I was wrong about these two people. They were supposed to be in my corner, but I guess an old dude they've never met before and truly know very little about, along with their own liberal sensibilities, are more important to them than just one more angry tranny.
@Steven:
Cool ways to leave AP:
1. Porn posting rampage.
2. WWE style scathing promo post condemning the forum staff.
3. Bomb threat to Cartoon Network.
4. Perona goatse.
5. Bowing out respectfully.
Bad ways to leave AP
1. B.S. strawmen about being disrespected and whining when people don't lavsh you with attention.
This post made me cry, BTW. And I especially like this one because it tells me that I haven't been disrespected, while blatantly disrespecting me and punching me down.
I also like how standing up for what I believe in, is apparently worse than posting porn, condemning the forum staff, and SENDING IN BOMB THREATS. Yeah, that's cool.
I don't think these people care whether or not I'm happy.
You know people actually don't know, how they offend you and why you feel hurt. I think they sorta project their own perspective on you and from that point they don't see anything bad. And since they don't see anything unfavourable in their own behaviour, so when you started to be all bitter about it they started to think you are in the wrong.
You are not wrong, but than again the way you act probably isn't very helpful in resolving the conflict and making them understand what do you mean.
Yes, and I recognize that. But the reason these people don't understand, is because they don't want to.
They don't want to understand these issues. I mean, just look at this shit:
@Cyan:
Abraham Lincoln can't be hailed as an abolitionist because he wasn't a slave.
Why? I'm just enjoying this "Obama is a nice guy, too bad he's black" kind of discussion…
It's literally as if they replaced what I said with shit that I don't even know where it came from.
And if that's what's going to happen whenever I try to explain something that's important to me, then why should I waste my time.
I'd also like to point out that nobody cared about this, either:
@No:
Museveni has signed the bill which makes talking about homosexuality without condeming it illegal, and also establishes that those who fail to "report" a gay person will face time in prison.
http://world.time.com/2014/02/24/ugandan-president-signs-anti-gay-bill/
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And once again, people on the page are ranting about how protesting this laws hurts "freedom of expression"
When this laws makes expressing the opinion that homosexuality is not wrong into a criminal act.
I.....what ?
It doesn't have anything to do with gay marriage or white gays in Russia, so why should we care about it?
Not necessarily blaming you guys, because there was a lot going on at the time, but it's definitely a trend.
One last thing I have to say is that, despite what anyone here thinks, I AM going to be a hero. I may not have any special skills or talents. I may not be good at animating, or drawing, or writing, or film production, or photography, or music theory, or geopolitics, or translation, or software design. Well actually I might be good at like two of those things. But let's assume that I'm not good at anything. I still have one, or I guess, two things at my disposal: A social conscience, and a willingness to act upon it. The only thing in my life is the cause. The only thing I want to be is the hero. And I've already positively impacted the lives of so many people. My friends, my co-workers at CLI and all of the kids who I've reached through CLI, everyone who has taken something away from my public speaking, anybody who has been inspired by my resilience. The old Taylor would have come away from this thread and killed herself. But not this time. This person who, as DarkFalcon pointed out, you've projected your own perspective onto, is a real living person with a future. And that future has room for success and happiness and laughter and hope and love and a partner and children. Just like all of you. And that future is going to have a happy ending, no matter what you may believe.
Got compared to Chairman Mao and indirectly blamed for the problems that face the world.
That's gonna make a transgender activist who would like nothing more than to help people and solve the world's problems, feel REAL good about herself and her impact.
He's talking about how there tends too many extremist conservatives and not enough liberal reformers in most organizations.
For god's sake.
@Cyan:
He's talking about how there tends too many extremist conservatives and not enough liberal reformers in most organizations.
For god's sake.
Um, aren't I and Taggerung the "extremists",
while the people who are willing (read: able) to talk about this "calmly and rationally" are the "liberal reformers"?
I'd also like to point out that nobody cared about this, either.
It doesn't have anything to do with gay marriage or white gays in Russia, so why should we care about it?
Not necessarily blaming you guys, because there was a lot going on at the time, but it's definitely a trend.
I really don't understand this assumption – which I've seen put forward by plenty of people, so it's hardly just you -- that just because people don't comment on something means they're ignoring it.
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that when one posts something, they quite likely would like to at least get a little discussion going on it, and so it can be frustrating, and disappointing, to not have that happen. I understand that it would be nice to have people at last acknowledge things, so that you could at least know they had seen it. I understand that when something ends up passing completely without comment, the poster is forced to be left wondering whether anyone paid it any mind at all.
I understand all that, but not why so many people then seem to immediately jump to the most negative conclusion. I for one, at least, tend to read every single article posted in this thread, often with great interest. Frankly, I'm fairly horrible at following even more 'mainstream' news on my own, let alone some of the things that get brought up here, and so I love that this thread gives me just that much more of a connection to the various facets of what is happening in our world. I rarely, if ever, actually comment on things simply because I tend not to feel as though I have anything worthwhile to contribute. Again, I do understand why you might dearly wish that weren't the case, that the things you most care about would more often spark lively discussion; but to claim that they are 'ignored', merely because this doesn't happen, seems to me to imply that people like myself don't care at all about the things they fail to respond to, which simply isn't the case.
Um, aren't I and Taggerung the "extremists",
while the people who are willing (read: able) to talk about this "calmly and rationally" are the "liberal reformers"?
He was talking about organizations like THE VATICAN
@Cyan:
He was talking about organizations like THE VATICAN
What, you mean somebody made a criticism that wasn't directed at me!? Impossible!
EDIT: I was actually going to say that I might have misinterpreted MK's and Gliblord's posts, because I thought they were my friends,
but what about STEVEN'S POST, huh? There's no explaining away that one, it's CLEARLY directed at me.
Cyan and knceng's posts that you quoted were also not directed at you but were rather responses to other posts such as this:
Additionally it's problematic, as Francis can't be agent of emancipation of groups he doesn't belong to, yet he is seen as such by some.
I don't know what you want from me. I've said New Pope is a nice guy but he's also a nice guy at the head of what i consider to be an extremely negative institution. It would be like if Mr. Rogers had decided be the face of the Republican Party. Like do you want those things to cancel out for me, cause they don't. They never will.
It's funny that you're so mad that people are replacing all the words in your mouth, when it's all you've been doing yourself. At this point it seems like we're not allowed to discuss the pope because he's not as important as individual trans experiences. That's… not how thing work. Both are important.
Soooo, a garbage man rescued a baby found in the dumpster.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4860000?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
Thank God for that man. Reminds of the film losing Isaiah. The baby on the dumpster part.
Fuck it. Blame and hate me. The guy who uses his actual real name in public locations.
I'm not religious. My best friend in the world for 15 years is trans. I have many friends of different races and religions. I think the new pope is kinda cool, far as popes go, and I also think a lot of religious stuff is bad. I'm a liberal democrat in texas.
Rant and hate me in private on your facebooks and messengers, declare that I specifically am singling you out and hating and repressing you out of envy or whatever makes you feel better, even though that is not actually the case in any way.
But I'm tired of this. Crystal, people actually like you and want to be your friends and are talking to you, me included. We're trying to have a dialogue with you, full of concern and a desire to understand…. and have tried to move on to nicer subjects already... while you just say they're lying to your face and that you hate them all.
If you insist that it has to be "us vs. them" when no one else actually wants that, if you think you're such bad fits here and that we're all awful people, then fine. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but we don't need you spewing venom. We don't need to thank you for the privilege of being insulted.
This has gotten real old. If you want to listen to what people say who are trying to help you, then listen to them. If you want to leave and be a martyr, stop saying it over and over in a cry for attention, and actually leave.
There you go, I just gave you your out.
I expect to see your hypocritical alt accounts shortly.
Cinder
 