I hear Vegapunk shut down his Pacifista program after watching movie Z.
Vergo probably broken Laws arms and legs as punishment for what Law was trying to do behind "adults" backs.
Hahaha ! Classic but always effictive. On me at least.
Chapter 738: "Trebol Army, Special Executive Sugar"
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I dont get the 2nd one, care to explain ? Plizuu?
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I hear Vegapunk shut down his Pacifista program after watching movie Z.
lol , got to feel sorry for the dude
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I still wonder how fujitora rejected law shichibukai status?
Shichibukai have nothing to do with the marines, wouldnt the gorosei,kong get mad at him for unbalance the world?He is risking his job,.
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I still wonder how fujitora rejected law shichibukai status?
Shichibukai have nothing to do with the marines, wouldnt the gorosei,kong get mad at him for unbalance the world?He is risking his job,.
Maybe he was given authority to revoke his title for this mission. The news about the alliance was accessible to the whole world, Gorosei included. Send him to check what's going on, if Law allied with pirates and went against another Shichibukai, strip his title and capture him.
Would explain why he can't make a move against Dofla too. He wasn't given orders regarding him. Which is why evidence is required.
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Why would Bellamy would appear on the flashback? :wassat:
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Both in the Same Age, they know Doffy since they where Kids? Both from North Blue?…
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Why would Bellamy would appear on the flashback? :wassat:
So we will know source of his love for Doflamingo. Bellamy took Doflamingo as his rolemodel for a reason- he was probably left without parents and at time when he was a kid Doflamingo was "hero" of Dressrosa.
He licks blood from his face exactly the same as Joker and he gotten shades of sorts. He is heavily influenced by Doflamingo and its a fact.
So Bellamy will have a clear dream at end of Dressrosa, his companions died when he went to Sky Island and he will get flashback where he will be shown as orphan- do you know what that means ? :ninja:
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Maybe he was given authority to revoke his title for this mission. The news about the alliance was accessible to the whole world, Gorosei included. Send him to check what's going on, if Law allied with pirates and went against another Shichibukai, strip his title and capture him.
Would explain why he can't make a move against Dofla too. He wasn't given orders regarding him. Which is why evidence is required.
I though the whole.marines got fooled by mingo and cp0
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Bellamy is awesome in that pic.
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I still wonder how fujitora rejected law shichibukai status?Shichibukai have nothing to do with the marines, wouldnt the gorosei,kong get mad at him for unbalance the world?He is risking his job,.
If they violate the term of the deal it seems possible that marine(which are the army of the World Government ) can arrest them to either send them to be judge by the World Government or to prison.
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I can't see Sanji being hard on Nami.
But I can see Sanji being hard for Nami.
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@Light:
Sorry Jabra but I think you're severely underestimating Pink here. The guy willingly took a freaking rocket in the face. And he isn't nearly as injured as you make him out to be. I'd say we just wait and see what's gonna happen next.
He has a few broken ribs as far as we know.
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Thank christ for stupid people eh.
Honestly there's like a thousand ways she could outmaneuver that dumbass.
Whoops slime boy fell in the water that's right over there.
Yeahhhhh you didn't see that bro throw a god damn ship like it was a toy?
Robin is gonna have a really fucking hard time with Trebol. That's like saying she could beat
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I ran and ran….. raftel here I was, now waiting for Luffy and co.
Unrelated, but I just want to say your avatar is pure gold, I laughed so hard at it hahah
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it does really need a governmental ceremony with blackjack and hookers?
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Yeah, I don't want to spoil my future here and you gave enough insight to what I wondered :)
Fire is hot, so are ladies. Sorry Sanji lovers, a mera mera no mi lady will join and melt his heart 
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@Light:
That hardly constitutes for life-threatening injury in One Piece world.
Well it is still decent damage.
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She easily bypasses it by using more arms or subduing them in a way where they cant utilize their full strength.
Luffy can push to buildings apart, Sanji can send semi-buildings flying, Zoro can lift a semi-building, people with this kind of strength and power, I don't think Robin can subdue or neutralize them.
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Kidd with a knife? :ninja:
nice one…. But no
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Yeahhhhh you didn't see that bro throw a god damn ship like it was a toy?
Robin is gonna have a really fucking hard time with Trebol. That's like saying she could beat
Luffy really easy just because he's stupid. Luffy's beat the shit out of way smarter opponents.Luffy is not stupid but just toooo carefree….. Big difference.
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Yeah, I don't want to spoil my future here and you gave enough insight to what I wondered :)
….Ooh you're a risk taker clearly :ninja:
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@Jewelery:
Unrelated, but I just want to say your avatar is pure gold, I laughed so hard at it hahah
lol thanks!
I hope and think that's what Dofla is hidding under the glasses.
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Luffy can push to buildings apart, Sanji can send semi-buildings flying, Zoro can lift a semi-building, people with this kind of strength and power, I don't think Robin can subdue or neutralize them.
Sometimes intelligence can win over strength. But in all honesty I don't believe Robin can take down Trebol by herself
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Sometimes intelligence can win over strength. But in all honesty I don't believe Robin can take down Trebol by herself
Intelligence alone won't help, you will need something else to back it up…
And I agree, I don't think Robin will take down Trebol...
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Well it is still decent damage.
Not enough to stop one from kicking your ass. http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-189/page-10
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Intelligence alone won't help, you will need something else to back it up
Not enough to stop one from kicking your ass. http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-189/page-10I didn't said the fight was over with that attack. Just that it was fairly effective.
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@kuma:
The admirals are one of the strongest characters in one piece there no if's and but about It.
The admirals are not the strongest ! come on! they were on the same level as whitebeard's first underlings,marco could kick any of the admiral's ass 1v1 quite easily. Even shanks's mates were shown to be oin par. The strongest characters are the yonko ofc and the geezers in the world government who hold the highest power, with all the knowledge about the true history. And i can bet there are characters that are still not revealed yet that are stronger than the admirals.
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We have not a single idea how strong Dragon is.
Not a single iota.
The admirals were able to fight on a par with Whitebeard, a yonko.
They ARE some of the strongest characters in the series, they're the absolute creme de la creme of the marines.
It'll still be a few hundred chapters before Luffy fights a yonko, and even when he does, there is no way he's taking the first one down single handedly.
Several times stronger than Vice Admirals? How exactly?
Luffy and Zoro haven't even fought a VA post-timeskip, we have no idea how strong they are in relation to a VA.
Even at that, there's a huge discrepancy between the current VA's.
Who exactly is it that Luffy and Zoro are several times stronger than? A VA like Onigumo or a VA like Maynard?
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Ooft, amongst various other grotesque acts, yes.
smoker's a VA, and Law beat someone who smoker couldn't even compare to in terms of haki, And ofcourse luffy is stronger than Law as you will see this arc when luffy beats Dofla. So there you have a comparison to a VA of the marines.
And all the stronger VAs are at like Ace's level not stronger than him just able to give him a good fight. (keep garp out of the equation here he was technically promoted which he turned down like 20 years ago) . And I'll bet my left nut that post time skip luffy is at least as strong as Ace if not stronger. Since luffy can now control his CoC at will. And there is no such thing as improving your CoC, you can't train to increase the power of your CoC as explained by Rayleigh you can only control it better and I think luffy now has perfect control over his CoC -
Yeah, when she was introduced she was. I remember being shocked when she got rid of Pell so easy (especially since I thought she broke his neck and killed him). I remember thinking she must be unbeatable with that kind of ability.
But we're long way from that now. Her ability isn't as scary as it was. Is she were a fighting type, she would be a lot scarier. Just try to imagine all the moves she could pull off with extra limbs if she was a type of fighter who moves around fast, punches and kicks people, grapples them while moving around… But Oda shows her mostly being static and using her powers in a boring way. Before the time skip, it could have been explained with her having to concentrate and stand still to use her ability, but it doesn't work after time skip. If she can create a clone and work together with it to bring down an enemy, or create a clone that talks and moves on it's own, I doubt she still needs to concentrate hard to sprout limbs.But even if she had a kickass fighting style, I don't see her beating Trebol. Even if he isn't a logia, he's shown he can twist his neck weirdly and his body is all weird. Since she would have to be in contact with him to bring him down with her methods, she can become vulnerable easy, due to sticky nature of his fruit. If he's a logia, then it's much harder.
It will take a lot more than Robin's devil fruit and her skills to take down Trebol. That much should be clear to anyone. Is Usopp and Dwarves working with her going to be enough? Possibly. We shouldn't forget that there are also other henchmen and toys around and it's possible other Dofla members will come down to help. The situation is pretty unpredictable. Since the goal is to take down Sugar, I believe most of the efforts will be invested into that. Don't know how they can do it next to a guy with such destructive power without getting rid of him first. But there's any number of ways in which this situation could resolve.
The thing is the entire crew need advancement one way or another. It all can't be Luffy, marimo and the cook. Usopp pointed this out before TS that Luffy can't do it alone, too many enemies. Robin stated herself she needs to get stronger for Luffy. Their quest won't get easier from here. Heaven knows what the next arc will be and few arcs later they will be going against a Yonkou. We need to have confidence in the rest of the crew to stand their own against Yonkou commanders and other high ranking officers. If she can't deal with Trebol now, then they are fucked. god forbid they get trapped somewhere against some moderately strong Kaidou officer. What happens then? We wait for Sanji?
In my view she needs this, the story need this. It will be absurd if she gets trashed now and 2-3 arcs from now, she's telling a Kaidou officer to bring it. That will be fan service.
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The world government MAKES the rules. The marines ENFORCE them. It's a pretty simple concept. Even with the shichibukai, if they break the rules the marines can detain them. Now detaining them is easier said than done and in the chance they marines aren't able to detain the shichibukai they'll still have to answer to the world government.
Ofcourse this is not explicitly stated but look at the incidences where the shichibukai are involved from crocodile to kuma to moria to donflamingo to even law
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Ussopp said when he met Nami after the TS "I'm not part of the weakling trio anymore!" I read this as Oda trying to move away from the monster trio solving all problems. Obviously the crew have different abilities that are needed, but Zoro's and Luffy's pure strength and technique based battles are not the best One Piece has to offer. If Ussopp had failed against Perona at Thriller Bark for example, the entire crew may have been defeated- the same goes for Sugar.
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Sometimes intelligence can win over strength. But in all honesty I don't believe Robin can take down Trebol by herself
But we haven't even seen anything of what Robin can do. The only we've seen that she can't handle is a logia. We've yet to see Trebol's strength as well, all he can do is stick people and throw ships. Well you know what? Robin was able to stop Sunny from crashing WHILE UNDERWATER. Physical strength seems to be on the same level and he can't stick her b/c she's just ungrow her limbs.
We'll never get to see her full growth if Oda never gives her a 1 v 1 fight.
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But we haven't even seen anything of what Robin can do. The only we've seen that she can't handle is a logia. We've yet to see Trebol's strength as well, all he can do is stick people and throw ships. Well you know what? Robin was able to stop Sunny from crashing WHILE UNDERWATER. Physical strength seems to be on the same level and he can't stick her b/c she's just ungrow her limbs.
We'll never get to see her full growth if Oda never gives her a 1 v 1 fight.
We already saw Trebol's strength. He is also a pretty skilled sniper, and can easily destroy rock with a basic shot. He's also extremely fast.
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Speaking of robin I always thought some kind of martial art would suit her best, especially a "pressure point" type of style. And the ppl who keep saying her df is OP it's not. It's very convenient but it's(or was) limited by her own physical capabilities. It's why her wings only lasted 5 secs before because if that weren't the case she could just sprout more hands to lighten the weight (which I think is part of her new improvements).
Now do I see her defeating trebol by herself? As of this very moment, not at all. But as pointed out power levels ALONE don't give the full picture. And yes their strength does matter, stop saying it doesn't matter. Mr. 3 would never hold off Magellan as long as he did without luffy's strength. Hunter x hunter said it best (paraphrase) the outcome of the battle is dependent upon different factors. Just because X max power is 90 doesn't mean he'll be at 90 in the fight. He could be at 70 causing a person of max 75 to win. Then you have weaknesses and such to consider so it's still to be determined how robin will fair against trebol.
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Oh one more thing, I think you guys are underestimating both the donflamingo pirates and the strawhat pirates. There's a reason they are feared as they are and the strawhats have yet to show the true crop of their 2 year sowed oats
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I'm hungry and craving pasta.
I accept Jesus Burgess as my Lord and Savior
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I hope some of the Strawhats all get 1v1 fights soon…I mean you have to remember that they'll be facing the Blackbeard Pirates 1v1 at the end of the series, who are world class criminals.
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Robin is gonna beat Trebol, so no worries. Hakuna your tatas.
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My sleeping spills hasn't arrive yet and I don't wanna be up for much longer
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@Da:
Robin is gonna beat Trebol, so no worries. Hakuna your tatas.
What makes you say that? I could see Hakuba/Cavendish helping her against Trebol.
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@Medical:
I'm hungry and craving pasta.
Seriously. Feed me pasta and I'll give you money, cookies, music recommendations, SMILEs, I'll do your essay that's due tomorrow which you haven't even started on, whatever you want.
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Oh one more thing, I think you guys are underestimating both the donflamingo pirates and the strawhat pirates. There's a reason they are feared as they are and the strawhats have yet to show the true crop of their 2 year sowed oats
That is the point isn't it? The arc is the trigger of many big events and send waves throughout the New World that the SHs are back and not fannying around. There can't be any "waves" sent if they have to be saved/rescued at every turn.
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We have not a single idea how strong Dragon is.
Not a single iota.
The admirals were able to fight on a par with Whitebeard, a yonko.
They ARE some of the strongest characters in the series, they're the absolute creme de la creme of the marines.
It'll still be a few hundred chapters before Luffy fights a yonko, and even when he does, there is no way he's taking the first one down single handedly.
Several times stronger than Vice Admirals? How exactly?
Luffy and Zoro haven't even fought a VA post-timeskip, we have no idea how strong they are in relation to a VA.
Even at that, there's a huge discrepancy between the current VA's.
Who exactly is it that Luffy and Zoro are several times stronger than? A VA like Onigumo or a VA like Maynard?
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Ooft, amongst various other grotesque acts, yes.
I really hope it doesn't take that long. That would mean anywhere between 2 to 4 years from now just fighting a Yonko.
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That is the point isn't it? The arc is the trigger of many big events and send waves throughout the New World that the SHs are back and not fannying around. There can't be any "waves" sent if they have to be saved/rescued at every turn.
one person being saved doesnt negate the waves man, sanji got "saved" by law. does that make him any less of a threat? its all about who he got saved from. besides we dont really know the full extent of trebol's "level/threat".
Also, the biggest wave will undoubtedly be caused by the captain if compared to enies lobby. usopp didn't do much in the grand scheme of things but what he did was very important. I say this to show that trebol doesnt HAVE TO be defeated by robin, whats really important as of now is sugar losing unconsciousness.but, even saying all that above, i would really enjoy if robin did pull through on top.
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What makes you say that? I could see Hakuba/Cavendish helping her against Trebol.
Just my guess. We all know that Robin is due a one big fight. This could be it.
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I need my Vergo vs teenage Law. But the character I want to see the most is Cora-san. BTW, do we know Cora's gender?
Much want.
Very need.
Wow.Hoping Cora is female otherwise some fans will be like 'ffsmore men omg sausagefest at everywhereoda no liek women'
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I hope some of the Strawhats all get 1v1 fights soon…I mean you have to remember that they'll be facing the Blackbeard Pirates 1v1 at the end of the series, who are world class criminals.
Who knows. It's not really guaranteed. I'd hate it if Oda was so repetitive, even for the possible final enemy. But if they were to fight BB pirates each, some serious power ups are neccessary. Some of the weaklings will inevitably get to fight level 6 prisoners.
The thing is the entire crew need advancement one way or another. It all can't be Luffy, marimo and the cook. Usopp pointed this out before TS that Luffy can't do it alone, too many enemies. Robin stated herself she needs to get stronger for Luffy. Their quest won't get easier from here. Heaven knows what the next arc will be and few arcs later they will be going against a Yonkou. We need to have confidence in the rest of the crew to stand their own against Yonkou commanders and other high ranking officers. If she can't deal with Trebol now, then they are fucked. god forbid they get trapped somewhere against some moderately strong Kaidou officer. What happens then? We wait for Sanji?
In my view she needs this, the story need this. It will be absurd if she gets trashed now and 2-3 arcs from now, she's telling a Kaidou officer to bring it. That will be fan service.
Well there are plenty of Dofla pirates to go around. Don't see why Trebol has to be the one who will be defeated by Robin. She was never the one to finish off top ranking enemies. And just because a fight occured between them, doesn't mean they will follow it through to the end. Situation can be compared to how Sanji fought Vergo, but in the end, Law was the one who defeated him.
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smoker's a VA, and Law beat someone who smoker couldn't even compare to in terms of haki, And ofcourse luffy is stronger than Law as you will see this arc when luffy beats Dofla. So there you have a comparison to a VA of the marines.
And all the stronger VAs are at like Ace's level not stronger than him just able to give him a good fight. (keep garp out of the equation here he was technically promoted which he turned down like 20 years ago) . And I'll bet my left nut that post time skip luffy is at least as strong as Ace if not stronger. Since luffy can now control his CoC at will. And there is no such thing as improving your CoC, you can't train to increase the power of your CoC as explained by Rayleigh you can only control it better and I think luffy now has perfect control over his CoCVergo's the most advanced CoA user we've seen so far, so smoker not being able to compete in that fashion isn't a big deal.
Law's powers are so hax, that it's ridiculous to use people he's beaten as a measuring stick of strength. Also factor in his stamina affecting his ability to use his powers and it becomes an even more questionable measuring stick.
You've just pulled a random comparison from nowhere between Ace and EVERY VA. This is just getting silly.
Garp was still a VA. Like I said, there's a huge disparity in their levels of strength despite being the same rank, so you can't just lump them all in together.
I don't really care how many testicles you wager, there's still no existing comparison between Ace and post-timeskip Luffy.
What does CoC have to do with anything whatsoever? Like, seriously?
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Who knows. It's not really guaranteed. I'd hate it if Oda was so repetitive, even for the possible final enemy. But if they were to fight BB pirates each, some serious power ups are neccessary. Some of the weaklings will inevitably get to fight level 6 prisoners.
I'm thinking that power gap may be dealt with by the timeskip that may come at the end of the series after Raftel and before the final battles? It seems like it would be too much progress for them to have to make in their current state
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Vergo's the most advanced CoA user we've seen so far, so smoker not being able to compete in that fashion isn't a big deal.
Law's powers are so hax, that it's ridiculous to use people he's beaten as a measuring stick of strength. Also factor in his stamina affecting his ability to use his powers and it becomes an even more questionable measuring stick.
You've just pulled a random comparison from nowhere between Ace and EVERY VA. This is just getting silly.
Garp was still a VA. Like I said, there's a huge disparity in their levels of strength despite being the same rank, so you can't just lump them all in together.
I don't really care how many testicles you wager, there's still no existing comparison between Ace and post-timeskip Luffy.
What does CoC have to do with anything whatsoever? Like, seriously?
I think Vergo was overconfident coz of the fact that law wasnt able to cut him before when Vergo went full muscle mode. So in order for Law to cut vergo he would need really strong power too
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lol it looks like im the only one who thinks usopp is gonna beat trevor
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Say no more, Deviant Hard is there for you!
SHIGAN! RANKYAKU! SHIGAN BONUS ROUND !
Credit goes to Shinjijin and darkeyez07 .
Funny you said that since Shinjojin just happens to be me! :)
Anyways, I'm really glad that you all liked those! BTW, MetalHanzo was the one who drew the first pic, not me. All I did was draw some concept sketches of those very techniques for him and Darkeyez to use in order for them to be able to make those three illustrations for my rokushiki robin project.Regardless, I really appricate that you guys like them and I'm sure they do as well. :D
