At least Akainu is a more sensible option than COBY like some people were suggesting. Akainu is at least, y'know, an actual antagonist in the story. Even if there is some sort of friendly skirmish at the end ala Uub from DB ( which would make 100x more sense to have it with Smoker rather than Coby), it's not even gonna be shown and nobody is gonna say "LOLZ, COBY WAS THE FINAL VILLAIN GUYS" afterwards. I don't even think such a thing will evenhappen because whatever new order is established later will probably not have a problem with pirates like Luffy and Shanks and etc. and the marines wouldn't be told to chase them.
The Final Villain
-
-
Oh god no I don't want Coby to be the final villain. Setting him up as a high ranking marine at the end would be a nice end to his character but no he should definitely not be the final villain.
-
Coby could fit perfectly in an epilogue where the friendly rivalry he has with Luffy could be brought out in a more relaxed, post-story environment. The Garp to Luffy's Roger.
He doesn't work as the end game villain who's actively stopping the Strawhats from reaching their goal because that's really fucking dumb.
-
So by giant creature, do you mean a giant tree?
The final villain's name is Yggdrasil.
Live every Japanese thing ever.
-
Coby could fit perfectly in an epilogue where the friendly rivalry he has with Luffy could be brought out in a more relaxed, post-story environment. The Garp to Luffy's Roger.
He doesn't work as the end game villain who's actively stopping the Strawhats from reaching their goal because that's really fucking dumb.
Like I said, Smoker would be more fitting to that scenario than Coby.
-
Not really. Luffy and Smoker's relationship is much more one-sided, I doubt Luffy gives him a second thought when he's not around. But Luffy and Coby were built up as friends before they became enemies and there's more of a mutual respect relationship going on there. That works better in narrative terms for a final shot of the series.
Plus Smoker has probably reached the height of his growth in terms of power while Coby is growing alongside Luffy. Also it would thematically fit if the series began and ended with a meeting between Luffy and Coby.
-
Not really. Luffy and Smoker's relationship is much more one-sided, I doubt Luffy gives him a second thought when he's not around. But Luffy and Coby were built up as friends before they became enemies and there's more of a mutual respect relationship going on there. That works better in narrative terms for a final shot of the series.
Plus Smoker has probably reached the height of his growth in terms of power while Coby is growing alongside Luffy. Also it would thematically fit if the series began and ended with a meeting between Luffy and Coby.
I'm not suggesting that we're going to get a full parallel, but it's pretty obvious that they both are going to be the guys gunning for Luffy at the end. Smoker seems to be chasing Garp's legacy more (not caring about bein promoted and stuff) whereas Coby is more like Sengoku, in that his aim is to be at the top and in control of the navy, to make it a better place. Pretty sure neither will be the final villain though.
-
I'm not suggesting that we're going to get a full parallel, but it's pretty obvious that they both are going to be the guys gunning for Luffy at the end. Smoker seems to be chasing Garp's legacy more (not caring about bein promoted and stuff) whereas Coby is more like Sengoku, in that his aim is to be at the top and in control of the navy, to make it a better place. Pretty sure neither will be the final villain though.
Personally, I see Coby as a young Kuzan. Kuzan finding "Garp-san" cool for turning down a promotion pretty much reminded me of Coby finding "Luffy-san" cool. Yep, it's just one scene and Coby isn't a lazy guy at all but both of 'em know when to take a stand(Coby during the war and Aokiji in confronting Akainu for the FA spot) when they have to despite the fact that they aren't usually assertive and outspoken when it comes to their beliefs.
-
Do you guys really think that Coby will be a match for Luffy by the end of the story? His growth is exceptional but Luffy has been training since he was 5 and he's skills are just in another league
-
Do you guys really think that Coby will be a match for Luffy by the end of the story? His growth is exceptional but Luffy has been training since he was 5 and he's skills are just in another league
Coby will be admiral at the end, so yes imo.
-
Coby will be admiral at the end, so yes imo.
Admiral ahh, so Coby will be the youngest admiral then and being an admiral doesn't mean shit when you're fighting the strongest person in world
-
@NER:
I am not sure, but I think he joined Roger after he found One Piece and became the pirate king.
I thought he literally joined for the campaign when Roger had his illness, the campaign where they conquered the whole Grand Line. He wanted Crocus to keep him alive for that final voyage I believe.
-
Admiral ahh, so Coby will be the youngest admiral then and being an admiral doesn't mean shit when you're fighting the strongest person in world
What about Garp vs Roger huh, Coby is trained by Garp you know.
-
[qimg]http://vocevaientender.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/mickey-zumbi.png[/qimg]
What about Garp vs Roger huh, Coby is trained by Garp you know.
Yeap, you just confirmed what some of us already knew
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
I thought he literally joined for the campaign when Roger had his illness, the campaign where they conquered the whole Grand Line. He wanted Crocus to keep him alive for that final voyage I believe.
That is how it happened
-
http://vocevaientender.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/mickey-zumbi.png
What about Garp vs Roger huh, Coby is trained by Garp you know.
Whitebeard vs any admiral?
How'd that go down against the sick old man?
The admirals are powerful because there's three of them with their power level all united on a time. You won't find a combination of guys that strong anywhere else.
-
Whitebeard vs any admiral?
How'd that go down against the sick old man?
The admirals are powerful because there's three of them with their power level all united on a time.
WB vs Akainu does not say much, Akainu looked just fine afterward, not to mention he took 1/2 WB's face.
You won't find a combination of guys that strong anywhere else
I'm SURE we will see combination of guys stronger than that in the future.
-
WB vs Akainu does not say much, Akainu looked just fine afterward, not to mention he took 1/2 WB's face. http://i.imgur.com/hbNJ6C0.png
I'm SURE we will see combination of guys stronger than that in the future.
Akainu was knocked out, wasn't he?
Idk about a stronger combination bro. Guys that strong usually have beef with each other. That's what makes the admirals special, 3 dudes who are crazy strong who don't secretly want to kill one another.
-
Akainu was knocked out, wasn't he?
Idk about a stronger combination bro. Guys that strong usually have beef with each other. That's what makes the admirals special, 3 dudes who are crazy strong who don't secretly want to kill one another.
Yeah, but throw them the Fleet-Admiral seat and 2 of them tried to kill each other for 10 days
-
Yeah, but throw them the Fleet-Admiral seat and 2 of them tried to kill each other for 10 days http://i50.tinypic.com/2s7yn7o.gif
Yet still they will completely back eachother up on the battlefield. And Akainu didn't kill Kuzan, that says a lot considering his character. He must have really respected Kuzan.
You won't find that level cooperation with other characters who are that strong.
Save the strawhats, and blackbeard pirates. But c'mon, those are special cases.
Like I said before, what makes the admirals dangerous is their ability to cooperate towards a common goal so effectively. Individual wise there are several other's who rival them in strength and a handful others who are stronger.
-
Whitebeards final speech pretty much confirmed that the WG will be the final villian.It doesnt neccasarily have to be be Akainu just some force representting the WG and I doubt it will be the elder stars I dont think theyre nearly as strong as people are making them out to be.Regarding Blackbeard I see the parralels between him and luffy and how odas basically making him out to be a evil luffy but all of that doesnt mean he has to be the final villian.The arc were luffy finally makes his dream come true and becomes the pirate king is more than worthy enough to be the arc were BB goes down.The biggest reason why I dont see BB being the final villian is that for that to happen luffy would have to defeat BB after he becomes pirate king and thats definatly not happening.The WG basically represents everything that that luffy is against they have been hyped to be the final villian ever since we saw how they run things in robins flashback perhaps even before that when we saw the first corrupt marine WB final speech confirmed it and since than weve seen things that cement it even more luffys flashback after aces death for instance showing how they treat those they view as inferior they stand for everything luffy is against.Dragons subplot will also be brought into play in the final arc whhich again has been hyped since the beginging of the story both that and the overall theme of freedom is much more important to the story than BB.Oh and Monkey King Ive seen a post in another thread were you mock the the people who dont think BB will be the final villian but right back at you buddy anybody whothinks doflamingo isnt going down in this current arc is retarded and all theyre predictions are wrong by default
-
Whitebeards final speech pretty much confirmed that the WG will be the final villian.
Not even remotely.
It doesnt neccasarily have to be be Akainu just some force representting the WG and I doubt it will be the elder stars I dont think theyre nearly as strong as people are making them out to be.
I think I'll file in "some guy we haven't even seen in the WG" as Tier 5 stupid. Like seriously, way worse than the Akainu supporters. Not that I expect better from warismydestiny or anything.
Regarding Blackbeard I see the parralels between him and luffy and how odas basically making him out to be a evil luffy but all of that doesnt mean he has to be the final villian.
Yeah it really does.
Tell us more about your narrative ideas for fitting final villains, guy who thinks Oda will pull a random character out of his ass near the end.The arc were luffy finally makes his dream come true and becomes the pirate king is more than worthy enough to be the arc were BB goes down.
Luffy's dream isn't over at Raftel lol. What a terrible stupid story this would be if the protagonist had no more motive in the final portion of the story.
It doesn't even need to be said, that Luffy's great ambitions will carry into the finale in some form. It's pretty much fact.The biggest reason why I dont see BB being the final villian is that for that to happen luffy would have to defeat BB after he becomes pirate king and thats definatly not happening.
Yes, truly Luffy equalling rather than surpassing Roger is more important.
The WG basically represents everything that that luffy is against
Tell us what the WG represents.
they have been hyped to be the final villian ever since we saw how they run things in robins flashback
You mean the flashback where the Gorusei showed sadness for having to order the death.
Or maybe you mean when Rayleigh described the findings on Raftel as morally ambiguous through so many words?
You mean those?WB final speech confirmed it
I predicted that speech by at least three years, and I can tell you no it doesn't.
and since than weve seen things that cement it even more luffys flashback after aces death for instance showing how they treat those they view as inferior they stand for everything luffy is against.
The WG showed up in Luffy's flashback?
One CD did.
Goa Kingdom is just a random member country of the WG, like Alabasta or Drum.Dragons subplot will also be brought into play in the final arc whhich again has been hyped since the beginging of the story both that and the overall theme of freedom is much more important to the story than BB.
1. lol at thinking Dragon will show up and everything will align perfectly with Luffy's views.
2. A theme of freedom, such as that also represented by Blackbeard.Oh and Monkey King Ive seen a post in another thread were you mock the the people who dont think BB will be the final villian but right back at you buddy anybody whothinks doflamingo isnt going down in this current arc is retarded and all theyre predictions are wrong by default
You saying this seriously bolsters both arguments by at least 10%.
-
Whitebeards final speech pretty much confirmed that the WG will be the final villian.
Agreed, the speech has 2 important points:
1 - BB is not the ONE, Luffy IS.
2 - The WAR that will make the WG shit themselves.It doesnt neccasarily have to be be Akainu just some force representting the WG and I doubt it will be the elder stars I dont think theyre nearly as strong as people are making them out to be
"The final vilian" will consist of many forces (WG + Marines + CPs + Countries on the WG's side) and the other side will have Pirates (Luffy + etc…) + Revolutionaries (Dragon) + Countries that no longer under the WG (joined Dragon maybe).
The biggest reason why I dont see BB being the final villian is that for that to happen luffy would have to defeated BB after he becomes pirate king and thats definatly not happening
True, BB and Luffy both want to be PK, that's their DREAM. Luffy will have to defeat BB (which he sure will) to achieve his DREAM and vise versa. After that Luffy will have to face his DESTINY (Will of D and WAR shits whatever ….) => this is the final moment and BB will not stand in the way because he will have been defeat before that.
-
Yes, the evil version of the main character - who has a team composed of evil versions of the main character's crew, is responsible for the main big shift in the balance of powers, is constantly painted as a right horrible bastard, and has the strongest abilities in the series - is going to be the warm up act for the real villains:
The neutral government who is obsessed with maintaing a precarious cold war and keeping WMDs out of the wrong people's hands and has thus far not shown a single iota of caring about what Luffy does
-
Agreed, the speech has 2 important points:
1 - BB is not the ONE, Luffy IS.
2 - The WAR that will make the WG shit themselves.What's a war, as Oda hinted the final war will be the ultimate achievement of his work and will make Marine Ford look like a play ground meaning that this last war won't only involved the WG/Marines but it will involve every party that still exist in the One Piece, it will be like the War World type of war
"The final vilian" will consist of many forces (WG + Marines + CPs + Countries on the WG's side) and the other side will have Pirates (Luffy + etc…) + Revolutionaries (Dragon) + Countries that no longer under the WG (joined Dragon maybe).
I agree to an extent but you're placing Blackbeard in the same group as Luffy and I don't think it will be like that, this war will most likely involve three parties WG/Backbeard/Strawhats and their alliance of course
True, BB and Luffy both want to be PK, that's their DREAM. Luffy will have to defeat BB (which he sure will) to achieve his DREAM and vise versa. After that Luffy will have to face his DESTINY (Will of D and WAR shits whatever ….) => this is the final moment and BB will not stand in the way because he will have been defeat before that.
Blackbeard hasn't stated what his dream actually is but he should have one that is lead by fate and as I stated above we will see Blackbeard on the war and probably having one of the Ancient Weapons with him
-
@Cyan:
The neutral government who is obsessed with maintaing a precarious cold war and keeping WMDs out of the wrong people's hands and has thus far not shown a single iota of caring about what Luffy does
!
-
You guys are all wrong and I'm going to prove it. Who has been there for every arc secretly facing against Luffy and the Strawhats and getting just as strong as them? Who has a unique design and is one of the first characters that Oda created for the story? Who has been the secret force behind all the villains in this story?
!
-
I agree to an extent but you're placing Blackbeard in the same group as Luffy and I don't think it will be like that, this war will most likely involve three parties WG/Backbeard/Strawhats and their alliance of course
I'd like to replace BB with Dragon, he has an army you know. But who knows ? We still have 10 years to go
Blackbeard hasn't stated what his dream actually is but he should have one that is lead by fate and as I stated above we will see Blackbeard on the war and probably having one of the Ancient Weapons with him
He wants to be Pirate King and conquer the World
!
!
BB will have an acient weapon with him allright, but i think he will use it in the battle for One Piece with Luffy (will have an acient weapon too) on Raftel.
You guys are all wrong and I'm going to prove it. Who has been there for every arc secretly facing against Luffy and the Strawhats and getting just as strong as them? Who has a unique design and is one of the first characters that Oda created for the story? Who has been the secret force behind all the villains in this story?
Looks strong !!! What power does he have ?
-
@Cyan:
Yes, the evil version of the main character - who has a team composed of evil versions of the main character's crew, is responsible for the main big shift in the balance of powers, is constantly painted as a right horrible bastard, and has the strongest abilities in the series - is going to be the warm up act for the real villains
How are the the Blackbeard evil version of the strawhats. Burguess for example is evil version of who?
-
How are the the Blackbeard evil version of the strawhats. Burguess for example is evil version of who?
Um…BB and Luffy....DUH? The rest don't need to be clone duplicates but some are pretty freaking obvious. Chopper and Ussop being the obvious ones.
-
@Cyan:
Yes, the evil version of the main character - who has a team composed of evil versions of the main character's crew, is responsible for the main big shift in the balance of powers, is constantly painted as a right horrible bastard, and has the strongest abilities in the series - is going to be the warm up act for the real villains:
The neutral government who is obsessed with maintaing a precarious cold war and keeping WMDs out of the wrong people's hands and has thus far not shown a single iota of caring about what Luffy does
Fucking Beautiful :cwy:
i don't think anyone has said it better yet, hell I think you just out witted/scarsamed Zephos
-
! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Iceberg.jpg
Yeah except Rayleigh, who has been to Raftel, knows the Ancient History, and seen more of the world than the tip in your metaphor, is one of the MAJOR pillars of the idea that the WG is a neutral villain attempting to seal away ancient dangers at all cost.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
How are the the Blackbeard evil version of the strawhats.
Franky by the look of it.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
BB will have an acient weapon with him allright, but i think he will use it in the battle for One Piece with Luffy (will have an acient weapon too) on Raftel.
Anyone saying the ancient weapons will be woken up BEFORE the Real Poneglyph on Raftel is absolutely clueless, and immediately disqualified from the theory tournament. Sorry.
-
I'd like to replace BB with Dragon, he has an army you know. But who knows ? We still have 10 years to go
Dragon is on Luffy's side and there won't be a father going mad
He wants to be Pirate King and conquer the World
BB will have an acient weapon with him allright, but i think he will use it in the battle for One Piece with Luffy (will have an acient weapon too) on Raftel.
Gosh I must have missed this stuff but Blackbeard is all about chaos and destruction If he's aiming for Pirate King is because of the destruction/war it will create and not for the same reason Luffy wants to be it, how will Blackbeard and Luffy fight using ancient weapons when they can just bring them to the war where the Marine will also have one and we will see the power/destruction that those three entities can do with it
-
Um…BB and Luffy....DUH? The rest don't need to be clone duplicates but some are pretty freaking obvious. Chopper and Ussop being the obvious ones.
I agree that the Blackbeard is suppose to represent an evil Luffy. I agree that the Blackbleard Crew his evil. But I really don't see them as evil version strawhats. They are those evil dudes the strawhats will fight not evil strawhats.
-
I agree that the Blackbeard is suppose to represent an evil Luffy. I agree that the Blackbleard Crew his evil. But I really don't see them as evil version strawhats. They are those evil dudes the strawhats will fight not evil strawhats.
You're not very good at abstract concepts methinks.
-
Whitebeard said the Blackbeard is not the one to carry on Roger's will. What Roger wanted to accomplish is something that needs to be done AFTER reaching Raftel. So Blackbeard can/will reach Raftel, he just won't be the one to do carry on Roger's will after reaching it (as in he'll fail at doing whatever he will try to do after reaching Raftel). Sloppy explanation indeed, but I can't say it better. And as I've said before, Whitebeard never said to the WG "You guys fear the war that will take you down after OP is found". He just says they fear the battle that will come, which easily could be one between Luffy and BB, because it will fuck up all the order they've kept in the world for so long.
-
@Monkey:
Yeah except Rayleigh, who has been to Raftel, knows the Ancient History, and seen more of the world than the tip in your metaphor, is one of the MAJOR pillars of the idea that the WG is a neutral villain attempting to seal away ancient dangers at all cost.
He said that they (the Roger Pirates) might have wrongly interpreted its meaning and Robin would more likely to come to a diffirent conclusion than their's => This indicates that his knowledge of the true history is questionable.
Anyone saying the ancient weapons will be woken up BEFORE the Real Poneglyph on Raftel is absolutely clueless, and immediately disqualified from the theory tournament. Sorry.
And your reason for this is ?
Back in Water 7 (and even before that) the WG was trying to steal the blueprint so they could make the weapon to end the "pirate era" => This clearly show they dont need the "Real Poneglyph on Raftel" to make and operate an acient weapon.
What about SHIRAHOSHI, she has finally "woken up" her ability as an acient weapon. If Shirahoshi could be woken up before the "Real Poneglyph on Raftel" then there is no reason to belive that the other 2 weapons can't be too.
-
I agree that the Blackbeard is suppose to represent an evil Luffy. I agree that the Blackbleard Crew his evil. But I really don't see them as evil version strawhats. They are those evil dudes the strawhats will fight not evil strawhats.
They're not perfect parallels, but they're there. like Doc Q (doctor of death, though he still has some duds he has to work out) and Chopper (great doctor who will eventually, hopefully, be able to cure any disease.)
-
@Monkey:
You're not very good at abstract concepts methinks.
I suppose so.
Van Augur for example is an evil sniper who might kill Yassop. Tat will makes the fight between Usopp and him more personal. But from my point of view,it won't make him an evil Usopp but a personal enemy.
-
He said that they (the Roger Pirates) might have wrongly interpreted its meaning and Robin would more likely to come to a diffirent conclusion than their's => This indicates that his knowledge of the true history is questionable.
Wrong wrong wrong.
This indicates that the knowledge of the true history is gray rather than black (like the WG suggests) or white (like lazy ass theories suggest).
That there's a subjective quality to it, not that "duh lol we were dumbasses so maybe we red the werds wrong, unlike a scollar would :P ".–- Update From New Post Merge ---
And your reason for this is ?
The idea of Oda blowing his ultimate load before the finale, TWO of them for that matter, and that you actually think world destruction level weapons would be used in a race to Raftel rather than…gee! Some sort of world altering war? Is hilarious at best.
Back in Water 7 (and even before that) the WG was trying to steal the blueprint so they could make the weapon to end the "pirate era" => This clearly show they dont need the "Real Poneglyph on Raftel" to make and operate an acient weapon.
No they weren't. Spandam was trying that, the Gorusei never ever said they would do that. They told him "We'll talk about what to do with the blueprints after we have them.".
Maybe you could better figure out the true character of the Gorusei if you read more carefully.What about SHIRAHOSHI, she has finally "woken up" her ability as an acient weapon. If Shirahoshi could be woken up before the "Real Poneglyph on Raftel" then there is no reason to belive that the other 2 weapons can't be too.
She wasn't woken dingus. There was a flash or two of her powers, no control or even awareness was fully established.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@Jewelery:
Whitebeard said the Blackbeard is not the one to carry on Roger's will.
Yeah, he's not the guy Roger wants to inherit the new era. Duh. That's the whole premise of him being the evil version of Luffy right there. He's the guy who would pervert the will.
-
@Monkey:
That's the whole premise of him being the evil version of Luffy right there. He's the guy who would pervert the will.
This, This, and THIS.
!
-
@Monkey:
I think I'll file in "some guy we haven't even seen in the WG" as Tier 5 stupid. Like seriously, way worse than the Akainu supporters.
Did I fucking say that. I said it doesnt necessarily have to be akainu but some force representing the wg i was thinking maybe the wg gets there hand on one of the ancient weapons but leave it to monkey king to come up with a straw man
@Monkey:Tell us more about your narrative ideas for fitting final villains, guy who thinks Oda will pull a random character out of his ass near the end.
again thats not even what i said its something you just pulled out of your ass even when fujitora was introduced i thought it was kind of an asspull to introduce an admiral level character 700 chapters in that wasnt even hinted at before
@Monkey:Luffy's dream isn't over at Raftel lol. What a terrible stupid story this would be if the protagonist had no more motive in the final portion of the story.
It doesn't even need to be said, that Luffy's great ambitions will carry into the finale in some form. It's pretty much fact.ofcourse they will and it will have nothing to do with blackbeard
@Monkey:Yes, truly Luffy equalling rather than surpassing Roger is more important.
he will surpass roger he will find out what happened in the void century and he will do what roger couldnt because of his illness plus in typical monkey king fashion you didnt even addres my point the worst thing that can happen to a character in op is having his dreams crushed blackbeard wants to become pk either he will do it or luffy will one of them is having there dreams crushed there would be no point in the fight if it happened after luffy became pk
@Monkey:
Tell us what the WG represents.
authority the antithesis of freedom
@Monkey:
You mean the flashback where the Gorusei showed sadness for having to order the death.
Or maybe you mean when Rayleigh described the findings on Raftel as morally ambiguous through so many words?
You mean those?yeah because the wg has always been built up as this neutral organization right they havnt ever done anything morally questionable at all right
@Monkey:
I predicted that speech by at least three years
would you like a cookie
@Monkey:
The WG showed up in Luffy's flashback?
One CD did.
Goa Kingdom is just a random member country of the WG, like Alabasta or Drum.cd's are some of the highest figures of the wg descendants or the creators themselves they are a representation of the wg and its evils and goa kingdom was the wg at the micro level the the unfairness and injustices shown in goa the wg has been doing the exact same shit on a grander scale througout the whole world
@Monkey:
1. lol at thinking Dragon will show up and everything will align perfectly with Luffy's views.
2. A theme of freedom, such as that also represented by Blackbeard.what you think there will be conflict between luffy and dragon? i always thought blackbeard represented chaos myself and if you do think blackbeard represents freedom would it make more sense for the final villian to represent the exact same ideals as luffy or something that wants to squash those ideals like akainu does
@Monkey:You saying this seriously bolsters both arguments by at least 10%.
good it makes it that much sweeter when it turns out your wrong
-
@Monkey:
Wrong wrong wrong.
This indicates that the knowledge of the true history is gray rather than black (like the WG suggests) or white (like lazy ass theories suggest).
That there's a subjective quality to it, not that "duh lol we were dumbasses so maybe we red the werds wrong, unlike a scollar would :P ".–- Update From New Post Merge ---
The idea of Oda blowing his ultimate load before the finale, TWO of them for that matter, and that you actually think world destruction level weapons would be used in a race to Raftel rather than...gee! Some sort of world altering war? Is hilarious at best.
No they weren't. Spandam was trying that, the Gorusei never ever said they would do that. They told him "We'll talk about what to do with the blueprints after we have them.".
Maybe you could better figure out the true character of the Gorusei if you read more carefully.She wasn't woken dingus. There was a flash or two of her powers, no control or even awareness was fully established.
OH MY GOD , She consciously talked to the seaking like they are friends and the seaking in return said THIS, and you still was like "no control or even awareness was fully established"
Maybe you could better figure out the true character of the Gorusei if you read more carefully
My good sir, please enlighten me.
-
it surprises me how dumb some of these new members can be. I mean I was dumb when I first joined (and some would say I still am) but at least when some one flat out explained to me in the most logical sense how I was wrong, referencing plenty of sources in the manga and explaining how I misinterpreted them and making it clearly obvious I had the wrong idea in mind when I first read them I could at least admit I was wrong
do you people really believe your schooling Monkey King right now? I mean yes he could do a little less with making you feel like shit when misinterpreted something, maybe be a little more gentle and less prone to shitting on people but his logic is sound (and I think most of those things are why he's extremely respected by the older members…. in case you were wondering how he can basically say anything and never get reprimanded for it)
-
Long live the Monkey King :wub:
-
@Heavenly:
Long live the Monkey King :wub:
Honestly the only time I ever bother to look at this thread is when Monkey King is going back and forth with the newer members, and if I see Cyan has posted something, he always phrases his side well enough to make you believe anyone else who disagrees is retarded
-
yeah because the wg has always been built up as this neutral organization right they havnt ever done anything morally questionable at all right
He's actually saying that their actions are morally questionable and that's the whole point. It's not a simple matter of Luffy is right and the WG is wrong. The WG is trying to do what is right and realistic, which requires some sacrifice.
I mean, if you're gonna get pissy when someone apparently misinterprets your argument do your best to actually understand theirs.
-
He's actually saying that their actions are morally questionable and that's the whole point. It's not a simple matter of Luffy is right and the WG is wrong. The WG is trying to do what is right and realistic, which requires some sacrifice.
I mean, if you're gonna get pissy when someone apparently misinterprets your argument do your best to actually understand theirs.
Well hes wrong then.Theyre authoritarian cunts
-
it surprises me how dumb some of these new members can be. I mean I was dumb when I first joined (and some would say I still am) but at least when some one flat out explained to me in the most logical sense how I was wrong, referencing plenty of sources in the manga and explaining how I misinterpreted them and making it clearly obvious I had the wrong idea in mind when I first read them I could at least admit I was wrong
do you people really believe your schooling Monkey King right now? I mean yes he could do a little less with making you feel like shit when misinterpreted something, maybe be a little more gentle and less prone to shitting on people but his logic is sound (and I think most of those things are why he's extremely respected by the older members…. in case you were wondering how he can basically say anything and never get reprimanded for it)
That's the problem. You have to give credit where credit is due - Monkey King has a very good understanding of the series and is generally right with his predictions. But, it's terribly offset by his attitude. He's rude, callous, and just seems to think he's somehow better than everyone. Don't get me wrong, I've no personal problems with the guy, he can be pretty cool, he just needs to calm down a bit and stop hurling insults.
I for one believe the Final War will be Strawhats and Allies vs the Marines and Associates vs Blackbeard and Allies, with the Revolutionaries in there as well to build the tension of whose side they're on and what they want. That is my opinion. Does it make me a retard? Should I stop reading One Piece? Do I have no literary skills? No, I'm just expressing my opinion. Agreed there are some pretty stupid theories out there (CC for Nakama!!) but people deserve the right to express their ideas without the fear of being treated like crap.
-
Has anyone actually read the thread? I mean, I don't know how you can read it and not be convinced Blackbeard is the final villian. I came into this thread being 100% for Akainu being the final villian, then completely flipped sides lol
-
@Monkey:
That's the problem. You have to give credit where credit is due - Monkey King has a very good understanding of the series and is generally right with his predictions. But, it's terribly offset by his attitude. He's rude, callous, and just seems to think he's somehow better than everyone. Don't get me wrong, I've no personal problems with the guy, he can be pretty cool, he just needs to calm down a bit and stop hurling insults.
I for one believe the Final War will be Strawhats and Allies vs the Marines and Associates vs Blackbeard and Allies, with the Revolutionaries in there as well to build the tension of whose side they're on and what they want. That is my opinion. Does it make me a retard? Should I stop reading One Piece? Do I have no literary skills? No, I'm just expressing my opinion. Agreed there are some pretty stupid theories out there (CC for Nakama!!) but people deserve the right to express their ideas without the fear of being treated like crap.
Don't know why you bother to respond to his comment but good speech . I dont think anyone in their right mind should be afraid of how others may treat them on the internet. Relax, it's just a playground so keep on discussing guys
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@Jewelery:
Has anyone actually read the thread? I mean, I don't know how you can read it and not be convinced Blackbeard is the final villian. I came into this thread being 100% for Akainu being the final villian, then completely flipped sides lol
No wonder you are easily convinced