No, he sounds like a stereotypical over the top squeak.
Next up you're gonna tell me Freiza is feminine.
Dude, you're just wrong. Not only does he not sound female, he's NOT female, despite what you claim. Can you accept that?
Or do you need me to like link his face or something.
No, he sounds like a stereotypical over the top squeak.
Next up you're gonna tell me Freiza is feminine.
Thanks to the English dub, I was convinced Freiza was a crazy old woman for the longest time as a kid.
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Dude i already said that im fully aware of his gender and that i accept it since Oda has been pretty clear about it from the begining. But i do think, and this all comes down to opinion, that his appearance (especially the eyes and the "puffy shirt" wich in my book kinda resembles a blouse) is sort of gender ambigious but the name does sound a tad effiminate. But thats just, well, like, my opinion, man…?
I was talking about the voice actor who you claimed to be 'obviously' female.
He sounds like a legitimate male to me.
Thanks to the English dub, I was convinced Freiza was a crazy old woman for the longest time as a kid.
What i have seen of english dub Frieza does remind me of that evil witch from power rangers.
Yeah he just has a high pitched male voice. Classic example being Ryusei Nakao (Caesar Clown, Frieza, Mayuri Kurosutchi).
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What i have seen of english dub Frieza does remind me of that evil witch from power rangers.
Ah Rita Repulsa. That's a villain right there.
Yeah, the bounty hunters being defeated so easily was a big part. The general idea of Zoro beating 100 bounty hunters doesn't bother me, but for it to be placed as the first impression people get of the enemies of the Grand Line? Zoro's strength doesn't need to be highlighted, what does need to be highlighted is the strength of the Grand Line that we've been teased about for so long. Such bigging up of Zoro's strength would be more appropriate at the end of the East Blue. I could see it being used as a message saying "Zoro can defeat 100 bounty hunters, the Strawhats are strong enough to head to the Grand Line now", or something.
Ah, so you have a problem with it because of its placement. Think about what would've happened with the length of this story if what you wanted took place though. Say the Straw Hats struggled hard at Whiskey Peak. It was dangerous (100 bounty hunters, exploding booger man, malicious sneaky intentions from the island goers), the Straw Hats were just above the danger. What you're asking for would make for a feeble story of dark, broody struggle for the whole of the Grand Line. If they struggled at Whiskey Peak, the next island would need to be a step above that, so they would struggle more, and more, and more. What Oda is saying by having Whiskey Peak have enemies defeated in a silly fashion is "see guys? It's not gonna be totally serious, the series still has its comical heart. Chill out for a bit before things get really serious."
That island is the first impression we get of the Grand Line. I understand that deeper islands in will be more deadly, hence to build up to Alabasta, but it's a big let down to have not only the first enemies we see of the grand line, but the first enemies we see of the villain the crew will be fighting for the next 10 volumes, to be so easily defeated.
Same vein as what I quoted above so the answer's the same.
-they get casually one shotted. In a confrontation between Zoro and Luffy that was blatant fan service just so we could see the two butt heads.
A man's fight mustn't be interrupted is all well and good when you're not blasting away enemies from a sea of such fearsomness that someone like Don Krieg who Luffy had a lot of difficulty with ran away from.
Maybe I as expecting too much from the Grand Line. I haven't seen anyone else complain about early Barque Works for these same reasons, so maybe I was the only one expecting so much. But seriously, I can probably name up to 10 examples of the Grand Line being hyped up during the EB saga. More if I flicked through the volumes to find them all.
Blatant fanservice? You didn't see that as a subversion of the expectation that interpersonal drama is going to occur between the Straw Hats? When things get hard, people can falter and infighting can happen, and this ties in with the core of One Piece still being there like I said above. This let us have a hint of that, and was really Oda just toying around with that story element.
I was expecting just as much from the Grand Line as you did, but I breathed that sigh of relief Oda was aiming for in that the first few islands aren't super dangerous. There's also the fact that things get hyped up a certain way in One Piece and they're sometimes introduced a different way. Like, Rayleigh is Roger's right hand man, right? Huge expectations for that. He's INTRODUCED as a gambler in a cell, out of his prime. Upon further development we see his true colors, just like the Grand Line.
We're really just gonna butt heads at this point 'cause we have completely different interpretations of the story.
While Sanji does tend to fire move more frequently now, he was the first to ever use fire. Franky and Usopp before him have also used fire on several cases. Usopp have used fire more often, in more different attacks, and over a longer time than Luffy has used Red Hawk. That reinforces the "your arguments are plainly baseless"
Please I don't understand, can anyone explain to me since when is Sanji able to use fire move or attack? Pretimeskip? Post-Timeskip apart from hell memories which other Sanji move is fire?
Cuz if I remember right he causes friction to make his leg heat up, Sanji even said so himself. Heat and fire not the same.
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Wow! Sai and Chinjao are pretty interesting characters. Hope that we'll see some kind of flashback from the Flower country. More than anything i also want to know WHAT the hell did you do to him Garp!? 
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Wow! Sai and Chinjao are pretty interesting characters. Hope that we'll see some kind of flashback from the Flower country. More than anything i also want to know WHAT the hell did you do to him Garp!?
Maybe he threw him into a bottomless ravine? or abandon him in the middle of a jungle at night? or tie him to a massive bunch of baloons and toss him away into the sky? or maybe he just gave him the good ol' fist to the head? 
Please I don't understand, can anyone explain to me since when is Sanji able to use fire move or attack? Pretimeskip? Post-Timeskip apart from hell memories which other Sanji move is fire?
Cuz if I remember right he causes friction to make his leg heat up, Sanji even said so himself. Heat and fire not the same.
Your just splitting nails to make thumbtacks here I'm afraid. Diable Jambe could easily be classed as a fire attack with it's ability to burn and/or set opponents on fire, even if Sanji's leg isn't on fire per say.
…and you just answered your own question, even if you do apply heavy semantics and say Diable Jambe isn't a fire attack, Hell Memories certainly bloody is.
Franky should should just use it to install central heating in to the Sunny.
Oh yea this please, make it happen oda
So let me get this straight. You are implying that Blackbeard is able to eat a second devil fruit but Luffy isn't. Tell me then why has Oda spent ink showing just how similar Luffy and Blacky are? I don't know about you guys but Luffy's body is anything but normal… sure some of his bodies special abilities are thanks to his devil fruit but some of its features are pretty impressive and cant absolutely be explained by his rubber abilities. What better place is there for the fire fruit to go? My money is on Luffy obtaining it and either saying f it i'm eating it or giving it to Rebecca so she can be a better Queen/protecter of her home country. If you dissagree thats great but to say that there is no factual clues pointing to another persons opinions just because you choose to ignore them is silly.
They are not similar, they are polar opposites. While one will have powerful DFs, the other will have the "useless" DF. And through the entire manga it has been said that NOONE can have 2 DFs, and ODA, by Marco, said that it was BBs weird body that made him capable of withstanding both DFs. If you have anything FROM THE MANGA to say otherwise, please show us. Ah, please tell me wich are these features that can't be explained by his rubber body, unless you are talking about his extreme willpower @ Impel Down, wich has nothing to do with weird body.
And please oh please show me these factual clues. I have answered your wishful thinkings with actual manga facts, and that's very different from ignoring ;)
I agree with you but you cannot talk about strange body and Marco's comment when those guys doesn't even know Luffy and does Luffy's body seems normal to you and what does strange body even means
I'n not against Luffy eating the devil fruit but Fire and Rubber doesn't really mix that well at all, having a rubber body and putting a clad of fire can be pretty dangerous unless his fire body nullifies his rubber body when the Mera 2x is activated
Yeah it seems just as normal as any other body, unless it has the gomu². The other 2 things about him are his willpower and his immunity to poison, thanks to Magellan, Ivankov and BonKurei.
And we should also ignore WB stating BB is an exception when telling Ace to pipe down. All that we have been hinted so far is that Luffy is opposite from BB, nobody can have 2 DFs and BB having one was the shocking statement of the century, and Luffy knows he can't eat it and said so himself.
Against facts there are no arguments.
To be fair, we dont know for sure why Blackbeard can have 2 DFs. There is no reason to believe that Marco is somehow an "expert" on the subject. It could very well have something to do with the will of the D. Blackbeard having a "Abnormal Body" would be a piss poor exuse to throw everything we know about DFs out the window just to create a strong villain, and Oda is sure as hell better than that. Im pretty damn sure we are going to get a more in-depth explanation.
A popular theory among fans seem to be that "The will of the D" allows you to consume two Devil Fruits and live, but only for a prolonged time, and this is how Gol D. Roger managed to conquer the New World (2 devil fruit powers) and also what caused his "fatal illness".
Yeah it seems just as normal as any other body, unless it has the gomu². The other 2 things about him are his willpower and his immunity to poison, thanks to Magellan, Ivankov and BonKurei.
And we should also ignore WB stating BB is an exception when telling Ace to pipe down. All that we have been hinted so far is that Luffy is opposite from BB, nobody can have 2 DFs and BB having one was the shocking statement of the century, and Luffy knows he can't eat it and said so himself.
As a normal body, BB's body also seems normal, the only difference is that we have Marco who made a comment about his body and that's it also WB stated that BB is an exception but it was because he knew that something was up with BB and he didn't want to get involve in him and whatever BB was planning, we know Luffy If he seems himself in a position where he has to put the fruit in his mouth to keep it safe, he will do it, so discarding the possibility of Luffy eating the Mera 2x is just stupid.
I'm neutral in this case, I accept whatever Oda has in stores for us
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A popular theory among fans seem to be that "The will of the D" allows you to consume two Devil Fruits and live, but only for a prolonged time, and this is how Gol D. Roger managed to conquer the New World (2 devil fruit powers) and also what caused his "fatal illness".
How does the will of D allowed you to eat 2 Devil Fruit? now I know why we never heard of that theory before
Ms. Pomeranian was right; coming here and seeing the new members post makes me want to close the browser tab.
As a normal body, BB's body also seems normal, the only difference is that we have Marco who made a comment about his body and that's it also WB stated that BB is an exception but it was because he knew that something was up with BB and he didn't want to get involve in him and whatever BB was planning, we know Luffy If he seems himself in a position where he has to put the fruit in his mouth to keep it safe, he will do it, so discarding the possibility of Luffy eating the Mera 2x is just stupid.
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How does the will of D allowed you to eat 2 Devil Fruit? now I know why we never heard of that theory before
As you said, WB said there was something "abnormal" about Teach. WB also knew what the will of the D really meant. I mean, how can you say that its NOT plausible?
It's not that I find him interesting just that other villains, except those I mentioned, were really not as interesting either. As for the length of the arc, for pure action yeah a bit on the long side. Most arcs are around 50 chapters but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I can't fathom it being called a debacle. Curious though, what are peoples least favorite 3 arcs of the series?
Fishman Island
Fishman Island
Fishman Island
The only bad arc in the series, which is saying something for a series that's been going for nearly 2 decades.
To be fair, we dont know for sure why Blackbeard can have 2 DFs. There is no reason to believe that Marco is somehow an "expert" on the subject. It could very well have something to do with the will of the D. Blackbeard having a "Abnormal Body" would be a piss poor exuse to throw everything we know about DFs out the window just to create a strong villain, and Oda is sure as hell better than that. Im pretty damn sure we are going to get a more in-depth explanation.
A popular theory among fans seem to be that "The will of the D" allows you to consume two Devil Fruits and live, but only for a prolonged time, and this is how Gol D. Roger managed to conquer the New World (2 devil fruit powers) and also what caused his "fatal illness".
Since WB+Roger flashback it has been hinted to be something related to Raftel/AK/Final war, and nothing has ever hinted Roger to have a DF, much more 2 DFs, wich would have been known by a lot of people, since he was so famous. And Garp/Sengoku would know it, but they were as surprised as everyone else when BB got the gura².
As a normal body, BB's body also seems normal, the only difference is that we have Marco who made a comment about his body and that's it also WB stated that BB is an exception but it was because he knew that something was up with BB and he didn't want to get involve in him and whatever BB was planning, we know Luffy If he seems himself in a position where he has to put the fruit in his mouth to keep it safe, he will do it, so discarding the possibility of Luffy eating the Mera 2x is just stupid.
I'm neutral in this case, I accept whatever Oda has in stores for us
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How does the will of D allowed you to eat 2 Devil Fruit? now I know why we never heard of that theory before
Yeah, but we can't just ignore all the hints Oda has thrown at us about BB having a weird body, being the exception and that Luffy is the one that even being considered weak/having a useless DF wins it with willpower (amazing haki, overcoming Magellan's poison).
Nothing in the manga has hinted towards him eating another DF or having an unusual body, as much as some people wish for it to happen. Also it wasn't just Marco who said so. It seems to be quite acknowledged by WB's crew.
As you said, WB said there was something "abnormal" about Teach. WB also knew what the will of the D really meant. I mean, how can you say that its NOT plausible?
Because otherwise he would have said it was the D, or say it about every D instead of talking about his body. Also Ace was a D, so why not point that out to him instead of showing how different they were?
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Don't think of them as dumb, think of them as still learning. Instead of being condescending why not help them understand?
Against facts there are no arguments.
As you said, WB said there was something "abnormal" about Teach. WB also knew what the will of the D really meant. I mean, how can you say that its NOT plausible?
Whitebeard said no such thing about Blackbeard. Marco said it. Only thing WB said was regarding the whole situation after teach killed Thatch was that he had a bad feeling regarding this situation
Because otherwise he would have said it was the D, or say it about every D instead of talking about his body. Also Ace was a D, so why not point that out to him instead of showing how different they were?
Oda likes to take his time and build up suspense. Its like saying Shanks didnt use Conquerors Haki in the first volume because he didnt openly state or explain what Conquerors haki was back then. When it comes to Blackbeard, anything is possible, the D is just one of many theories. But im pretty sure it goes beyond having a "wierd body". If that was the case it would be cheap, if Oda establishes that you can only have one DF ability he probably has a pretty good explanation for including an exception to that rule.
I mean this manga probably has something like 10 years left before its concluded. How can you be so sure that someone (maybe Vegapunk? who knows) wont come in and explain how DFs/DFx2 work a little more indepth than just "TEACH IS JUST DIFFRENT MMMKAY?"
what are peoples least favorite 3 arcs of the series?
1. Amazon Lily. I don't hate it, I don't hate any arc in One Piece. But it was definitely the worst. Hancock's backstory, the introduction of Haki, and the rest of the crew's whereabouts are good, but everything else isn't. I'm a guy who has no real problem with the fanservice but this was ridiculous. It wasn't funny just sad here. Add on Hancock being in contention for the series' worst character/protagonist and it doesn't look good.
2. Romance Dawn (chapters 1-7). Not too much wrong with this one but it's below the other arcs sans Amazon Lily. It was a fairly decent introduction to the series but it didn't have that typical One Piece magic (that wouldn't come until Baratie, but still the next 2 arcs still did it better.). The only real negative was Coby and I just dislike, not hate, him.
3. Can't decide between Captain Kuro and Skypeia. I actually find both really enjoyable but I just prefer the rest of the arcs.
As you said, WB said there was something "abnormal" about Teach. WB also knew what the will of the D really meant. I mean, how can you say that its NOT plausible?
Dude I said I'm neutral because it really doesn't make sense for Luffy to eat another Devil Fruit when he got qualities that surpass any human beliefs, WB didn't say there's something abnormal about BB, he meant that something is up, up as a plan to take over the world and he didn't want to get involved in whatever he was planning.
how did that theory appeared again (Roger two DF) and can you post it in http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350 so I can read it
Don't think of them as dumb, think of them as still learning. Instead of being condescending why not help them understand?
That's an admirable attitude, but what am I supposed to do if the only way of helping them is to continuously hit them with a stick? Because words, my friend, won't get you anywhere in this case. They might eventually give in to your words but soon after that they'll go to another forum and start that crap all over again. Only that time there will be other such users and they will unite; they will call each other's views brilliant and that way new dumb users will be born. As you can see, the cycle of evil never stops its gears.
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Oh you silly fool. Closing the browser will not end this madness festering within the bowels of this thread.
Sometimes I forget what wisdom hides behind those Pomeranian eyes.
Dude I said I'm neutral because it really doesn't make sense for Luffy to eat another Devil Fruit when he got qualities that surpass any human beliefs, WB didn't say there's something abnormal about BB, he meant that something is up, up as a plan to take over the world and he didn't want to get involved in whatever he was planning.
how did that theory appeared again (Roger two DF) and can you post it in http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350 so I can read it
I think thats where i first read it. The reason i brought it up is not because it would be the most logical reason, but because it would catch you completley off guard and surprise you, and that is what this manga and its author likes to do. Anything is possible. To exclude any other option or explanation other than "teach has a wierd body" just because Marco said so at that moment would be foolish and narrow minded. Im sure the real reason is far more complicated, and in the end will make more sense within the context of the story.
Yeah, but we can't just ignore all the hints Oda has thrown at us about BB having a weird body, being the exception and that Luffy is the one that even being considered weak/having a useless DF wins it with willpower (amazing haki, overcoming Magellan's poison).
Nothing in the manga has hinted towards him eating another DF or having an unusual body, as much as some people wish for it to happen. Also it wasn't just Marco who said so. It seems to be quite acknowledged by WB's crew.
That's why I'm neutral in all this Luffy 2DF thing but I won't discard the possibility ether, I don't remember anyone else besides Marco saying that though
It's really not that hard to see why the posts can sometimes be subpar here. People will see a One Piece forum, think the protocol is like other anime forums, and then go hog wild. Someone's join date doesn't automatically make me dismiss them unless they've proven themselves to be dumb. If someone has a join date of a few years or more, I do give them the benefit of the doubt though because they've had the time to absorb and dwell on One Piece for a while. Sure, I mean you can say you've lurked since you were in your mother's womb and she had was some type of cyborg and had a laptop in her pregnant belly that you used, but I have no proof of that. Prove it with your posts if you're gonna say you've been lurking for a while. Better yet, don't even mention that, because it puts expectations on you, which you generally want to avoid.
I read quite a few people's posts here although yeah things can get circular and annoying. Sometimes leaning extremely on the annoying side.
I think BB can have more then two df cuz of his darkness df power.
Hey, these last few pages reminded me, you know what I hated about the Paramount War? That it was full of people with abilities that Oda clearly didn't want to reveal yet. The battle came across as full of plot holes because we didn't know how haki worked. Like that stupid scene where the admirals block an earthquake with their hands. We're never seen haki do that, and that scene is way too short for anyone to be expected to remember, yet it still happened.
Come to think of it, why can Blackbeard eat two devil fruits? "Having a weird body" isn't a good excuse, and I definitely wouldn't accept it if this author didn't build up trust in the fanbase over the years. Really, I'm shocked that more people aren't annoyed Oda broke one of the laws of his story with such a flimsy excuse.
Hey, these last few pages reminded me, you know what I hated about the Paramount War? That it was full of people with abilities that Oda clearly didn't want to reveal yet. The battle came across as full of plot holes because we didn't know how haki worked. Like that stupid scene where the admirals block an earthquake with their hands. We're never seen haki do that, and that scene is way too short for anyone to be expected to remember, yet it still happened.
Come to think of it, why can Blackbeard eat two devil fruits? "Having a weird body" isn't a good excuse, and I definitely wouldn't accept it if this author didn't build up trust in the fanbase over the years. Really, I'm shocked that more people aren't annoyed Oda broke one of the laws of his story with such a flimsy excuse.
When the admirals used Haki in the war to reflect John Giant's body (that's what you mean, right?), they used CoA like Sentoumaru did back at the Sabaody Archipel. They used their 'invisible armor' pretty much.
And no, it isn't a flimsy excuse. At least not yet. Thus far it is an unsolved mystery, which still has to be explained. Oda wouldn't it leave just at that, this should be quite clear.
Oda clearly didn't want to reveal yet [….] why can Blackbeard eat two devil fruits? "Having a weird body" isn't a good excuse, and I definitely wouldn't accept it if this author didn't build up trust in the fanbase over the years. Really, I'm shocked that more people aren't annoyed Oda broke one of the laws of his story with such a flimsy excuse.
It'll get explained, eventually. Haki is still not fully explained, and it suddenly being everywhere is annoying, but considering its late entry into the story it seems to be holding up OK; I'd sit on the Admiral thing and other stuff from the war a bit longer before judging.
Yes, the main issue with Thriller Bark was that Moriah was a poor character and his defeat didnt lead to much due to the WG coverup.
i dont know if this has been brought up before but my main issue with Moriah (oddly enough) is that his gender feels totally ambiguous.
Beside the fact that Oda said he is a male, why does it really matter the gender of moriah? I mean Moriah is Moriah regardless and his gender shouldn't really change anything. Plus he's clothes and appearance are more towards the theme of thriller bark and maybe of older times.
Robin will always be my favourite Nakama <3
gotta agree with you there. and for me Ussop is the second most favorite nakama.
Thanks to the English dub, I was convinced Freiza was a crazy old woman for the longest time as a kid.
The you should try watching DBZ Abridged. (Freiza is hilarious and has a voice of part villain part Stewie from Family Guy and it has the right ratio for it to work well)
Maybe he threw him into a bottomless ravine? or abandon him in the middle of a jungle at night? or tie him to a massive bunch of baloons and toss him away into the sky? or maybe he just gave him the good ol' fist to the head?
Whatever it is, somehow im pretty sure it's Chinjao's own fault afterall, so he must be a very bad loser :getlost: I don't see Garp hurting anyone without a good reason.
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Pretty sure Chinjao´s reason is gonna be something stupid, like Garp stealing his crackers or something
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Whatever it is, somehow im pretty sure it's Chinjao's own fault afterall, so he must be a very bad loser :getlost: I don't see Garp hurting anyone without a good reason.
He beats up people all the time. Most of the time even people he loves lol
He's named Garp the fist after all. It should be in reference to him bashing people upside the head all the time
I'm guessing it has to do with the dent on his head. Surely that can't be strictly decoration. (Hopefully we get a flashback of him getting bonked in the head).
That's an admirable attitude, but what am I supposed to do if the only way of helping them is to continuously hit them with a stick? Because words, my friend, won't get you anywhere in this case. They might eventually give in to your words but soon after that they'll go to another forum and start that crap all over again. Only that time there will be other such users and they will unite; they will call each other's views brilliant and that way new dumb users will be born. As you can see, the cycle of evil never stops its gears.
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Well that's what I say to myself before reaching for my trusty flamethrower. 
Oda likes to take his time and build up suspense. Its like saying Shanks didnt use Conquerors Haki in the first volume because he didnt openly state or explain what Conquerors haki was back then. When it comes to Blackbeard, anything is possible, the D is just one of many theories. But im pretty sure it goes beyond having a "wierd body". If that was the case it would be cheap, if Oda establishes that you can only have one DF ability he probably has a pretty good explanation for including an exception to that rule.
I mean this manga probably has something like 10 years left before its concluded. How can you be so sure that someone (maybe Vegapunk? who knows) wont come in and explain how DFs/DFx2 work a little more indepth than just "TEACH IS JUST DIFFRENT MMMKAY?"
No, anything is not possible. Oda has shown to be extremely consistent with his work, one of the reasons OP has so many fans. While I don't have the exact answer to how he did it, I can assure you what isn't right. Being a D isn't why. Having a weird body is part of it, possibly along with his darkness DF. And yeah, there will be a way bigger explanation about how he can do it and what exactly is different about his body. And why would it be cheap? BB knew about his condition and has planned to get the fruit from the beginning in order to do that.
Against facts there are no arguments.
I admit to skim-reading many of the posts in these threads because it's the same debates that have been had before, just with new people. I can see why it happens, it's just less interesting than it was the first time around.
I'm guessing it has to do with the dent on his head. Surely that can't be strictly decoration. (Hopefully we get a flashback of him getting bonked in the head).
Maybe we'll get to see exactly how he split the Ice Continent?
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I admit to skim-reading many of the posts in these threads because it's the same debates that have been had before, just with new people. I can see why it happens, it's just less interesting than it was the first time around.
Maybe we'll get to see exactly how he split the Ice Continent?
The majoriy here does that, only that they don´t explicitly admit it in the thread itself 
My personal dumb prediction wish is that both Chinjao and Garp were just chilling in the Ice Continent and eating a bunch crackers. Don took one of Garp's so he ends up karate smacking him on head, thus causing him to head butt the continent and yeaaah, lame but I wouldn't mind it.
DUMB PREDICTION~
As far as we can tell blackbeard didn't "eat" a second fruit, he might've used the yami yami no mi to extract it. He could've had a couple fruits with him under the veil but the DF transfering method seems like classified/generally unknown information. As bad ass as BB is i don't think he'd have access to that information.
The majoriy here does that, only that they don´t explicitly admit it in the thread itself
Aye, I figured. Oh well, I tend to be too honest. At least when the big Enies Lobby debate was going on, I managed to refrain from posting the "Let's All Go To The Lobby" song.
@Monkey:
You answered your own question by citing literally nothing but combat crap lol.
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But MK, there are people who actually like to see the "combat crap" you are referring to. For people who like to get immersed in deeper plot with unbelievable storytelling that leaves "fantasy combat" to a side then shonen is not the best bet in genre (manga-wise). Try seinen, then maybe you might find a hidden jewel. I´ve found quite a few. It feels a bit ankward that the action heavy volumes like EL get this much criticism due to all the "combat crap" when we are dealing with a shonen manga where "combat crap" is one of the spotlights. Maybe people´s age affect the perspective on their criticism, which means….. people are maturing:ninja:
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100000000000000 Berries please.
Blasting Destinations: Gotham city, Jaya, central perk, E. R.
But MK, there are people who actually like to see the "combat crap" you are referring to. For people who like to get immersed in deeper plot with unbelievable storytelling that leaves "fantasy combat" to a side then shonen is not the best bet in genre (manga-wise). Try seinen, then maybe you might find a hidden jewel. I´ve found quite a few. It feels a bit ankward that the action heavy volumes like EL get this much criticism due to all the "combat crap" when we are dealing with a shonen manga where "combat crap" is one of the spotlights. Maybe people´s age affect the perspective on their criticism, which means….. people are maturing
He literally just argued this same point earlier in the thread, so it's not simply an issue with combat, but unnecessary or excessive combat against bland villains with no real goal behind them therefore no real plot combined with sudden and arguably forced power-ups for just about every member of the crew. Also, if you were around then, the Usopp Wars. It wasn't all bad, but it was easily the weakest arc in the series, as he said.
on the topic of Enies Lobby,i really don't understand and agree with the majority.for me atleast,there were many reasons i found it quiye good.
one of them was that the "anti-establishment" feeling.it was one of the few(perhaps only) time that the the strawhats actively went against WG and the marines,leaving behind a trail of destruction.i also really liked the enviornment,the settings and the character designs.
and all the fights were quite good as well(aside from nami vs kalifa),but that wasn't the sole reason i liked EL.
well i know that there were some flaws,but i really didn't think it was the that bad.well,everyone has their own opinions,i guess.
He literally just argued this same point earlier in the thread, so it's not simply an issue with combat, but unnecessary or excessive combat against bland villains with no real goal behind them therefore no real plot combined with sudden and arguably forced power-ups for just about every member of the crew. Also, if you were around then, the Usopp Wars. It wasn't all bad, but it was easily the weakest arc in the series, as he said.
Yes, Brennen I wasn´t referring to the arc in particular but thank you for pointing out that it was discussed already. (I can´t find the time to read all 33 pages of commentaries). But now that you bring this topic of excesive combat and screentime to the table, I´m worried that ODA has found a double-edge sword pattern with how much he cares for his characters. Case in hand, this tournament. I love how he gives time to all those new characters, however more light for charácter B is less screentime for character A. As a result people who want to see character N instead of Character W get upset. My point is, he´s taking light away from characters to expand on others; (Which is not at all bad, but if handled incorrectly it could end in a fandom letdown). I also believe that the time in which everyone reads the manga has an impact in your least favorite arc. Its not the same when you had to wait the weekly fix in the Skypea arc, in comparison to someone who had the chance to read it all in one go. Edit: I still wonder once everything is done and finish ( If we are still alive) and we read the whole OP in one go which arcs will get to our podium and which ones will get the consolation Price…
