I'm sticking with what I've said.
One Piece 711: Adventures in the land of the Dwarfs
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@•Ace•:
I'm sticking with what I've said.
prepare to be gravely disappointed
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Just realized this was a completely Luffy-less chapter. Don't get those much.
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prepare to be gravely disappointed
Its not that I want it. I just thought it would happen because of the reference. In the story, they both die. That's all.
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Seing how strong them little dwarfs are, it scares me a little that kaido might actually turn out being one of em… That'd be a major pissoff to me lol
Kaido won't be one of those guys i'm certain.
Top left, above Hawkins. That's probably Kaido.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/147354/one-piece_ch693_by_mangarule/2And i really don't think the gnomes/dwarf's strength is a big deal at all. Cracking the ground a bit is old hat. Characters have been doing that/similar things almost the whole time.
Also is Zoro going to Green Bitt or the ship? If he is going to Green Bitt, we could see a Zoro vs Fujitora fight? That would be amazing.
It would be a terribly one-sided beat down that Zoro deserves not :(
I think the straw hats + heart pirates + usopp followers arent good enough to have a fair fight , i trully think they need one more ally..or they will have their ass kicked
Well regardless, undoubtedly Luffy will make many allies out of the gladiators/the gladiators will be forced to fight together. This opens up a possible temporary team up with Burgess, as well as Cavendish, Chinjaro trio, Bartolomeo maybe, etc.
Speaking of Burgess, if he comes close to living up to the role of core crew member of a yonkou, he's the probably the only one in Dressrosa who stands a chance against Fujitora imo.
@Monkey:
Oda doesn't kill off characters period. The Whitebeard/Ace example (and the incredibly rare earlier examples like Mr.11) is an extreme case of exception.
What you're saying isn't going to happened, period.Flashbacks. Why does no one ever want to count flashback characters? Also define 'characters'. Do nameless fodder count? Because Oda has finished off plenty of them, including at the hands of Zoro and almost certainly Luffy (as well as many other characters like Kidd and Bartolomeo). This anti-killing hang up you're talking about is over exaggerated, and i certainty wouldn't call any decisions to keep certain characters alive bad dramatic choices.
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Guys, do you have the impression that a chapter seem missing?
The chapter is cool but…how did Sanji got the info? And Zoro?
Bah, it confuses me.
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@•Ace•:
Its not that I want it. I just thought it would happen because of the reference. In the story, they both die. That's all.
Just because it happened in a story that the characters are based on, DOESN'T mean Oda is going to go through with it…especially when it comes to killing people. And if it actually involves killing them, you know Oda is going to puss out and bring them back like Kinemon or the G5 with a miraculous CURE or convenient plot device.
I mean, this is Oda we are talking about. I figured everyone was used to this by now...but nope, we still got Monet is dead folks out there.
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I freaking knew Oda would do something to Robin as soon as cloth-stealing dwaves were introduced. I'm just glad it was….creative? I dunno, its getting typical for Robin to get tied up. I'm a little sick of bondage in anime/manga.
On a positive, you know what Law adds to the crew that was impossible beforehand? Strategy. Law and Donflamingo are playing a game of chess, and Don's seemingly won with this chapter. This drama wouldn't be possible with Luffy, heck the guys clearly fallen for a trap himself. I'm curious to see how these events work out. Will Luffy stay and fight in the tournament knowing his crew is under attack, or did Donflamingo time things so Luffy will be mid-fight by the time he finds out? Suddenly the crew seems really overwhelmed.
By the way, where did this Kaidou as a dwarf thing start? Is it a rumor just cause its funny or did something else happen?
I wouldn't bet against Law yet. He has Caesar's heart which means he can kill him at any time and esentially sign Dofla's deat warrant. And by having his heart he also has Caesar as a fighter on his fight. I am guessing Law and Caesar together are probably strong enough combined to stalll an Admiral long enough to make their escape. Of course this is probably Dofla's plan to get them to tire themselves out so he can take them but the Strawhats at their most tired and desperate are usually the most dangerous and there is a good chance that Law has his crew staying as a backup ready to intervene
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Guys, do you have the impression that a chapter seem missing?
The chapter is cool but…how did Sanji got the info? And Zoro?
Bah, it confuses me.
Can someone that understood better what happened explain me?We don't know How Sanji figured that out yet. That will be detailed or recapped probably in a quick flashback like in this chapter with Zoro and Wicca whenever the the story switches to Sanji's point of view.
As for Zoro… Wicca stole Zoro's Sword > Zoro caught Wicca > Wicca gave Zoro the intel because he's a loose-lipped air-headed klutz, much like all dwarfs it would seem > Zoro is carrying Wicca to the flower fields because of Wicca's sprained ankle > Zoro agreed to do such so that in return Wicca will lead Zoro to the sea which he can't find on his own. Presumably because he was born without the part of the brain that handles simple human navigation.
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What if, Kaido is a huuge dwarf. You know, like big mam big or whitebeard big. But among dwarf. :ninja:
Those dwarfs look like bees with those noses and tails. All they need now is wings.
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@Dan:
We don't know How Sanji figured that out yet. That will be detailed or recapped probably in a quick flashback like in this chapter with Zoro and Wicca whenever the the story switches to Sanji's point of view.
As for Zoro… Wicca stole Zoro's Sword > Zoro caught Wicca > Wicca gave Zoro the intel because he's a loose-lipped air-headed klutz, much like all dwarfs it would seem > Zoro is carrying Wicca to the flower fields because of Wicca's sprained ankle > Zoro agreed to do such so that in return Wicca will lead Zoro to the sea which he can't find on his own. Presumably because he was born without the part of the brain that handles simple human navigation.
Thank you Dan, I figured that out LOL
The only thing is that it's the first time ever I'm questioning how Oda handled the situation.
Zoro had that slight flashback that imho missed a panel or 2.
But the Sanji part, or lack of it, was handled horribly imho.
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This whole arc is the proof that only Luffy is right: never have a plan, because plans always fail !!!
PS: I'm not sure that the fairies are "trustful", my guess is that they can read the truth when people speak or think.
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Do you guys think the fact that Rebecca's laugh is "Fufu," just like Doflamingo's, is important? Or is that just a weird coincidence?
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Do you guys think the fact that Rebecca's laugh is "Fufu," just like Doflamingo's, is important? Or is that just a weird coincidence?
Fufufu is one of the most common standard Japanese laugh onomatopoeia. It's most popularly (but not always) used for haughty characters (usually women). You will find thousands of characters throughout manga/anime history that have laughed as "fufufu," including many in One Piece (even Robin sometimes).
And Doflamingo actually isn't one of them. His is fuffuffu, which is much sharper and involves harsher puffs of air.
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Guys, do you have the impression that a chapter seem missing?
The chapter is cool but…how did Sanji got the info? And Zoro?
Bah, it confuses me.
Can someone that understood better what happened explain me?About Sanji I guess there are two possibilities:
1st - He took down a member of Doflamingo Family, or maybe that sniper that wanted to attack them, and got the info from him.
2nd -
Violet: Sanji, there is a man I'd like you to kill..
Sanji: Wah, which one?
Violet: His a big deal you know, he is one of the shichibukai- Donquixote Doflamingo!
Sanji: Dofla.. Doflamingo?
Violet: Yes, please you need to help me..
Sanji: Well of course, If it is about Doflamingo don't worry at all.
Violet: What do you mean??
Sanji: Well, my captain Luffy is already going to take care of him, you probably got the news that he quit shichibukai, that was my crew's doing..
Violet: Wait, Doflamingo didn't quit shichibukai..! It is all a plan to take down the StrawHats..SANJI: HOLLY SHIT ..DEN DEN MUSHI..: LAW GET OUT OF THERE :)
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@CCC:
Fufufu is one of the most common standard Japanese laugh onomatopoeia. It's most popularly (but not always) used for haughty characters (usually women). You will find thousands of characters throughout manga/anime history that have laughed as "fufufu," including many in One Piece (even Robin sometimes).
And Doflamingo actually isn't one of them. His is fuffuffu, which is much sharper and involves harsher puffs of air.
Oh, my bad. That makes sense, thanks for explaining
Quick question - I remember seeing something about how the mystery person on the Sunny spoke like a child. Do the dwarves/fairies from this chapter speak the same way (to lead to the assumption that a dwarf/fairy is onboard?)
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Guys, do you have the impression that a chapter seem missing?
The chapter is cool but…how did Sanji got the info? And Zoro?
Bah, it confuses me.
Can someone that understood better what happened explain me?This is similar to the time Rock and Scotch 'killed' Zoro, Sanji, and Brook on Punk Hazard and it took Oda a few chapters in order to fill in the blanks. It's more fun this way anyway! Gives us all more to talk, ponder, and wrack our brains about. xD
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This whole arc is the proof that only Luffy is right: never have a plan, because plans always fail !!!
PS: I'm not sure that the fairies are "trustful", my guess is that they can read the truth when people speak or think.
they can't read the truth, usopp already own them
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@Master:
About Sanji I guess there are two possibilities:
1st - He took down a member of Doflamingo Family, or maybe that sniper that wanted to attack them, and got the info from him.
2nd -
Violet: Sanji, there is a man I'd like you to kill..
Sanji: Wah, which one?
Violet: His a big deal you know, he is one of the shichibukai- Donquixote Doflamingo!
Sanji: Dofla.. Doflamingo?
Violet: Yes, please you need to help me..
Sanji: Well of course, If it is about Doflamingo don't worry at all.
Violet: What do you mean??
Sanji: Well, my captain Luffy is already going to take care of him, you probably got the news that he quit shichibukai, that was my crew's doing..
Violet: Wait, Doflamingo didn't quit shichibukai..! It is all a plan to take down the StrawHats..SANJI: HOLLY SHIT ..DEN DEN MUSHI..: LAW GET OUT OF THERE :)
That's one of the possibilities, and it would have taken 2 panels.
I know it would have spoiled the cliffhanger at the ending, but…I can't help to think it's horrible narratively w+ise. -
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Actually It was weird that Law didn't consider that situation.
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@400MillionBelis:
Just realized this was a completely Luffy-less chapter. Don't get those much.
Well, he got a name drop, maybe Bartolomeo is gonna have a word with him before the start of the Block…
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Actually It was weird that Law didn't consider that situation.
Well it was in the Newspaper carried by a World Government News Coo. I thought he was in the clear too. xD
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That's one of the possibilities, and it would have taken 2 panels.
I know it would have spoiled the cliffhanger at the ending, but…I can't help to think it's horrible narratively w+ise.Everybody is an expert. lol
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Well, he got a name drop, maybe Bartolomeo is gonna have a word with him before the start of the Block…
If you meant the mr.monkey thing, I'm pretty sure that was the little girl playing with the monkey toy.
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If you meant the mr.monkey thing, I'm pretty sure that was the little girl playing with the monkey toy.
Oh wow, I skimmed through that page and missed that panel entirely.
Oh well, it's gonna happen sooner or later.
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Guys, do you have the impression that a chapter seem missing?
The chapter is cool but…how did Sanji got the info? And Zoro?
Bah, it confuses me.
Can someone that understood better what happened explain me?The Zoro part in this chapter took 5 pages, and it got more focus because it's connected to the dwarves (and maybe will lead to Green Bit). Sanji's story line is gonna be much longer than that and will probably be in a different direction (with Kinemon and Violet… etc), so it's gonna need its own... focus, I guess. Basically, the story-lines are getting much more connected to each other right now, and Sanji's story will have its time... when the time comes, and then, everything will be clear.
... Not to mention it would have ruined the ending here.
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@Dan:
Kaido won't be one of those guys i'm certain.
Top left, above Hawkins. That's probably Kaido.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/147354/one-piece_ch693_by_mangarule/2And i really don't think the gnomes/dwarf's strength is a big deal at all. Cracking the ground a bit is old hat. Characters have been doing that/similar things almost the whole time.
It would be a terribly one-sided beat down that Zoro deserves not :(
Well regardless, undoubtedly Luffy will make many allies out of the gladiators/the gladiators will be forced to fight together. This opens up a possible temporary team up with Burgess, as well as Cavendish, Chinjaro trio, Bartolomeo maybe, etc.
Speaking of Burgess, if he comes close to living up to the role of core crew member of a yonkou, he's the probably the only one in Dressrosa who stands a chance against Fujitora imo.
Flashbacks. Why does no one ever want to count flashback characters? Also define 'characters'. Do nameless fodder count? Because Oda has finished off plenty of them, including at the hands of Zoro and almost certainly Luffy (as well as many other characters like Kidd and Bartolomeo). This anti-killing hang up you're talking about is over exaggerated, and i certainty wouldn't call any decisions to keep certain characters alive bad dramatic choices.
yea im also prty sure thats kaido up left, but for the dwarfs, if 1 random female can crack everything around without even trying, i believe their strenght is actually quite something, if u think of one who would actually be a fighter / haki user, could be prty dangerous imho
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I freaking knew Oda would do something to Robin as soon as cloth-stealing dwaves were introduced. I'm just glad it was….creative? I dunno, its getting typical for Robin to get tied up. I'm a little sick of bondage in anime/manga.
On a positive, you know what Law adds to the crew that was impossible beforehand? Strategy. Law and Donflamingo are playing a game of chess, and Don's seemingly won with this chapter. This drama wouldn't be possible with Luffy, heck the guys clearly fallen for a trap himself. I'm curious to see how these events work out. Will Luffy stay and fight in the tournament knowing his crew is under attack, or did Donflamingo time things so Luffy will be mid-fight by the time he finds out? Suddenly the crew seems really overwhelmed.
By the way, where did this Kaidou as a dwarf thing start? Is it a rumor just cause its funny or did something else happen?
It's only a rumor for the kaido being a dwarf thing, I said that randomly a few pages ago, seing how strong the dwarfs are, and kaido being the strongest ''creature'' alive, I said i hope kaido isnt a dwarf, just because. That is all
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Thank you Dan, I figured that out LOL
The only thing is that it's the first time ever I'm questioning how Oda handled the situation.
Zoro had that slight flashback that imho missed a panel or 2.
But the Sanji part, or lack of it, was handled horribly imho.
Maybe I'm just too spoiled with Oda's near perfection. :PHandled horribly? Wtf we just havent seen it yet chill out a little
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Does anyone else think that the Dwarves mentioned by Norland are unlikely to be these Dwarves?
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If Ussop returns as Sogeking i am sure there will be bounty raise in the end of arc.
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I wonder if the Koro-pok-guru were a source of inspiration for the dwarves in One Piece. Oda does mention them in one panel briefly.
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@Warden:
If Ussop returns as Sogeking i am sure there will be bounty raise in the end of arc.
There's probably going to be a bounty raise anyway, but it would be fantastic if we get NW Sogeking.
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Chapter Review, Theories and Predictions
This chapter was THE turning point in this arc for me, but I’ll explain that later. First off, the dwarves are a unique species and I can’t wait to see the relationships Usopp has cultivated with the Tontatta tribe (in less than 15 minutes LOL).
I’m glad to see that the flower garden – a feature of Dressrosa that was mentioned earlier in country’s introduction – was not lost in the shuffle and will be an important site and will play an important role in this arc, for Zoro-Wicca and Franky-Sol will probably meet there.
This is where it gets good. The events at Green Bit will be a turning point in this arc. Obviously Law’s plan has hit a bump in the road, for Doflamingo has not stepped down from the Shichibukai, and I believe this is the doing of Doflamingo, Akainu, and CP0. The priority is Law and Luffy for Akainu, and with Doflamingo’s help, they have impemented a ‘DIVIDE and CONQUER’ strategy to effectively take them out. And it looks like it’s going to work.
You have Fujitora AND Doflamingo coming after Law, and this is not like Punk Hazard where Aokiji comes and saves the day; no insanely-strong person is going to come out of the wood-works to save Law; all the big players are here for a battle-royale on Green Bit.
Luffy, Law and Kidd are the key players in this era, but only Luffy and Kidd have been ‘baptized by fire’; Luffy entered the Marineford War and realized how inferior he was in strength compared to all the other big-wigs, and barely made it out the War alive (and has a scar on his chest as a reminder of that experience); I don’t know what happened with Kidd, but he must’ve encountered overwhelming challenges to cause him to lose an arm in his time in the New World.
Law has kind of cruised in his time in the New World, and I think this encounter with Fujitora and Doflamingo will be Law’s ‘baptized-by-fire’ moment; I’m not saying he’ll lose an arm like Kidd, but he will sustain significant injuries that will remind him of how naive he was to take on big fish like Doflamingo. Any thoughts?
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Law's even put animal legs on people who've had theirs cut off… so, little worry if Law's body parts get seperated temporarily.
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I think law is the type that doesn't need a baptism, he's the brain, he understood he needed to progress to be able to survive which is why he waited before jumping into the new world. He's definitely in a pinch, hard to tell if he's worried about not being able to teleport out or about leaving robin and ussopp behind.
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the dwarves will probably hide Law. He still has time to get out. I'd say kill Cesar anyway.
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Honestly, Law can teleport, so I don't see how he's trapped at all.
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@Monkey:
Oda doesn't kill off characters period. The Whitebeard/Ace example (and the incredibly rare earlier examples like Mr.11) is an extreme case of exception.
What you're saying isn't going to happened, period.You just contradicted yourself. Saying that a mangaka doesn´t kill characters and then giving three example of the "only exceptions" is rather grasping for straws. Either a mangaka kills or doesn´t kill. The fact that there is a extreme resilence to death from some characters like Pell and Pagaya, does not mean that death doesn´t exist. Death exists in OP, whether we stumble uppon it frequently or not is another matter altogether. I feel your simplification of the autor "ODA doesn´t kill off characters period" quite childish, as if you wanted to hide the sun with your fist. But hey this is just my take. To be fair I have this feeling that as we approach raftel death might become more common. Simply put, east blue is a pacific sea, and Paradise cannot compare to what is to come. Let me ask you a question. Why are you so certain that we won´t have another death? and who says that a death has to be in a marine Ford arc? death is a mechanism to give other characters development. Answering your post just made me realize how much would I like for someone from the crew to die. Although this is merely wishful thinking if someday happens it will prove to be a huge Boulder to the "Oda don´t kill character let alone flies" fandom
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Honestly, Law can teleport, so I don't see how he's trapped at all.
He has to set up a room beforehand in order to teleport, yes? Perhaps he didn't? Though that would be quite an oversight. Also i can't remember if a range was ever put on his teleportation. Perhaps Dressrosa/safety is too far away?
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I know somewhere this question was probably already answered and I did scan through some sections but I just don't have enough time in my day to look through everything and I'm at work.
So what is really bugging me is, how come the new one piece chapters aren't translated by mangarule yet?? Are they good, is something wrong?
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I know somewhere this question was probably already answered and I did scan through some sections but I just don't have enough time in my day to look through everything and I'm at work.
So what is really bugging me is, how come the new one piece chapters aren't translated by mangarule yet?? Are they good, is something wrong?
From the Mangarule blog
Guys i want to tell you that we are really sorry for ch.709 and 710 and that we will try to release them after ch.711!!
We want to tell you that we will have to release vols.30-39 in one go because i think that after that we will have to close this website XD and you have no idea of what happened in these two weeks , winter is coming!! So what you can expect in this year:
-One Piece Vol.69 (really soon)
-One Piece Vol.70 (15 days before vol.71)
-One Piece Vols.30-39 (we are cleaning volume 35 and i think that you will be really happy to see these volumes in hq) (September-October)So, they should be catching up i guess and they should be around… for a while. Dunno if CCC has commented at all.
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@Dan:
Flashbacks. Why does no one ever want to count flashback characters? Also define 'characters'. Do nameless fodder count? Because Oda has finished off plenty of them, including at the hands of Zoro and almost certainly Luffy (as well as many other characters like Kidd and Bartolomeo).
Gee "Dan Ddangerously" why DON'T we count those things that are clearly demarcated from the rest of the story and seem to have their own set of rules in terms of what Oda is willing to do?
Also feel free to build on the cool "named characters who died in the present time" list we have going.
-Mr.11
-Roshio the Executionerlol at anyone confident about even fodders being dead in certain panels.
This anti-killing hang up you're talking about is over exaggerated, and i certainty wouldn't call any decisions to keep certain characters alive bad dramatic choices.
Keeping Pell alive is a terrible dramatic choice.
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"Cesar" is the next nakama
Take a good look at the panel showing Doflamingo. You can see him heading towards the same giant flower that is seen behind Law. Doflamingo is SECONDS away from reaching to him.
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@Monkey:
Gee "Dan Ddangerously" why DON'T we count those things that are clearly demarcated from the rest of the story and seem to have their own set of rules in terms of what Oda is willing to do?
Also feel free to build on the cool "named characters who died in the present time" list we have going.
-Mr.11
-Roshio the Executionerlol at anyone confident about even fodders being dead in certain panels.
Keeping Pell alive is a terrible dramatic choice.
1, We count them because it's the same fucking story, by the same author, in the same world, with real characters, that are not separate from the story, at all. This is arbitrary nonsense you're spouting. If he kills a character he kills a character. Period.
2, Merry
3, Keeping Pell alive was not a bad dramatic choice in my opinion. The dramatic value is that he was willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good, and then he did willingly make that sacrifice. That he lived is happenstance after the fact. He didn't know he would live and it doesn't cheapen his heroic and noble actions. That's how i see these situations. Death isn't required to seal the deal.
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You just contradicted yourself. Saying that a mangaka doesn´t kill characters and then giving
So you're a literalist! How long have you had this problem?
three example of the "only exceptions" is rather grasping for straws.
Or maybe you aren't very left brained after all.
Say pal, let's do some numbers. How many characters with names have there been in One Piece? And have been faced with what normally would be death, or even seemed like it? Out of that amount…how many does three stand against?
Wow! That certainly is lopsided!
Now, one more thing for you to consider!
If we had two people, one trying to establish a trend of Oda treating killing characters like the plague, and one trying to say he'll totally off some people right around now no problem.
Which one would actually be grasping at straws.Either a mangaka kills or doesn´t kill.
Whoop, back to being super left brained we go.
Hey if you're so hot for numbers tell me about probablity.
Also thanks for concocting a False Dichotomy absolutely out of the blue.
What a wacky world you must live in where trends and probability don't exist. And a guy who only really lay the axe down in one incredibly decisive point, is the exact same as a guy who kills off every single character he can lol.
What the fuck are you talking about. Oda killed a couple people and suddenly this puts him on the same category as Yoshiyuki "Ideon" Tomino? The hell?
Nothing you're saying makes any sense.The fact that there is a extreme resilence to death from some characters like Pell and Pagaya, does not mean that death doesn´t exist.
Death exists in OP, whether we stumble uppon it frequently or not is another matter altogether.Nobody said death doesn't exist you dingus.
I feel your simplification of the autor "ODA doesn´t kill off characters period" quite childish,
I feel you inability to parse that as non-literal and subsequent confusion at extremely obvious patterns and nature of authorship to be a sign of a highly detrimental learning disability or five.
as if you wanted to hide the sun with your fist.
What does this even mean.
But hey this is just my take. To be fair I have this feeling that as we approach raftel death might become more common. Simply put, east blue is a pacific sea,
This doesn't mean anything either.
Let me ask you a question. Why are you so certain that we won´t have another death? and who says that a death has to be in a marine Ford arc? death is a mechanism to give other characters development.
Hey neat, I also never said we'd never ever have another death.
So seriously, how long have you been following this series, and why did you speedread it.Answering your post just made me realize how much would I like for someone from the crew to die. Although this is merely wishful thinking if someday happens it will prove to be a huge Boulder to the "Oda don´t kill character let alone flies" fandom
You're an idiot.
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Jesus fucking christ Monkey King, do you have to try hard to act like such a really really amazingly haunty and miserable prick, or does it come naturally? Your posts read like they come from a caricature of an asshole written by someone who never learned what subtlety was.
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Pell not dying was kinda funny. He was pretty much point blank in an explosion that was supposed to have killed thousands. At the very least his legs should be gone. It sorta takes away from the threat when you look back. It's like…oh well I guess it wasn't that powerful. Same thing with Pagaya surviving a direct strike from Enel.
Letting minor characters survive kinda does cheapen the threat. I don't expect the Strawhats to die. But I at least want to feel something could really cause their death. Oda's track record removes the real threat of anyone dying. I highly doubt we'd get another Ace Whitebeard situation.
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@Dan:
Jesus fucking christ Monkey King, do you have to try hard to act like such a really really amazingly haunty and miserable prick, or does it come naturally? Your posts read like they come from a caricature of an asshole written by someone who never learned what subtlety was.
And you have to insult people you don't know in addition to shit-posting and derailing the thread?
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@Dan:
1, We count them because it's the same fucking story, by the same author, in the same world, with real characters, that are not separate from the story, at all. This is arbitrary nonsense you're spouting. If he kills a character he kills a character. Period.
GRR IM TOUGH GUY DAN DANGEROUS. NOTHIN GETS BY ME AND MY NUMBSKULLED BOXING GLOVES.
WORDS HAVE MORE NUANCED MEANING OUTSIDE OF THE DICTIONARY??? NOT IN MY TOWN. UNGH! UNH! SMASHES NUANCE WITH GLOVES
THAT JUST PLAIN CONFUSED MY DUMB HEAD. NO WAY JOSE, HAD TO BE SMASHED!
DIFFERING INTERNAL SERIES RULES?? HELL NO, IM GONNA BOX THAT AWAY TOO, IT HURTS MY HEAD TOO MUCH. I DONT BELIEVE IN NUANCE! ODA CANT POSSIBLY DEMARCATE FLASHBACKS AS HAVING DIFFERENT RULES! NUANCE SUCKS!!! UNGH!! UNH!!! SMASHES EVEN MORE NUANCE
ME MAKE SERIES CLEAR FOR OTHER IDIOTS. YEAH!2, Merry
Is a boat.
3, Keeping Pell alive was not a bad dramatic choice in my opinion. The dramatic value is that he was willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good, and then he did willingly make that sacrifice. That he lived is happenstance after the fact. He didn't know he would live and it doesn't cheapen his heroic and noble actions. That's how i see these situations. Death isn't required to seal the deal.
People surviving every other brave sacrifice, even ones which were essentially made into possible plots entirely based on their sacrifice (dispatching that bomb) is a great idea that doesn't cheapen anything. Exactly right.
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@Dan:
Jesus fucking christ Monkey King, do you have to try hard to act like such a really really amazingly haunty and miserable prick, or does it come naturally? Your posts read like they come from a caricature of an asshole written by someone who never learned what subtlety was.
Did the words "Someone who never learned what subtlety was." seriously just come from you of all people ahahahaha.