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On that note, I find the culture associated with tumblr to be extremely annoying and wish it would die in a fire.

As much as I like that site, the sheer amount of groupthink associated is rather disconcerting.

Cyclone_Baroness

Doesn't that occur with most online groups?

I don't really use Tumblr myself although I have an account. But I only see stuff from Tumblr on Imgur. Best of the Best I guess. But so far the only things I take away from there are that they like that Cumberpatch guy and the responses to most things are "I can't…." or "There are two types of people..."

Cruithne

@Cyclone_Baroness:

Doesn't that occur with most online groups?

Well yeah, but Tumblr takes it to the extreme. Most sites don't have a bunch of people telling you to kill yourself over doing something the majority doesn't like.

Plus they have the distinction of being the site that ruined all social justice forever.

Shuhan

Wow…didn't realize Tumblr was that bad. I have a few people I follow on there that are nice enough...

piratemarimo

@Shuhan:

Wow…didn't realize Tumblr was that bad. I have a few people I follow on there that are nice enough...

You have no idea of the horrors. I tend to avoid most of that crap cuz I would insta-unfollow someone who's an asshole, but it's really unavoidable. Not all of them are bad, but some of them are freaks who would send death threats to the people they supposedly admire and purposefully try to make actors uncomfortable by showing them homoerotic art that isn't theirs in the first place. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's to a point where I feel like there is not a single fanbase that hasn't been ruined on some level for me.

Cruithne

@Shuhan:

Wow…didn't realize Tumblr was that bad. I have a few people I follow on there that are nice enough...

Most people on there are nice enough; it's the angry vocal minority that ruins everyone's good time.

FelRes

Weird at night tumblr > Cute animals tumblr > Scenery porn tumblr > Actual porn tumblr > Hipster tumblr > fandom tumblr > SJW tumblr

Fandom tumblr made me hate everything I love
SJW tumblr just made me hate everything (well, more)

Noqanky

Relevant: http://www.theonion.com/articles/yahoo-back-on-top-after-purchasing-millions-of-13y,32497/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

There are like three to five cultures associated with Tumblr.

Well sir, consider me ignorant because every interaction I have had with that site or one of its followers have consisted of the same things. Namely obnoxiously intense people who make me hate the internet for encouraging such, as Cruithne greatly puts it, groupthink.

I don't doubt there's good people on tumblr, there's always exceptions. But the kind of internet subculture that has grown around it is annoyingly scary.

Cruithne

Relevant: http://www.theonion.com/articles/yahoo-back-on-top-after-purchasing-millions-of-13y,32497/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

And to go with it.

trappedolphin

Painting nails is really therapeutic. And yeah I don't usually care how they would look to other people, it's only about what would be fun for me. That goes for a lot of things, really. So it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me when guys ask "why do girls do this and that, I don't think it looks nice to a guy."

Tumblr makes everything in the world seem bizarre and strange which can be pretty fun.

piratemarimo

You can never see things quite the same after discovering that certain so-called fans actually get angry when their favorite actors get married, impersonate people close to them, or talk about how they want to rape people they claim to admire.

Jazzy Jinx

I want to bend Super Mario over my lawn chair.

Cruithne

I stopped taking my pills a few weeks ago.

I feel no different emotionally, but I'm just so tired.

Hiroy

I never seen or paid much attention to the bad parts of tumblr to be completely honest.
Same thing with racists/equal right haters on Facebook pages.
Politics in Youtube comments.
The anmie/manga board on AP.
This list of extremes can go on.

It's kinda silly to make an entire opinion based off what people hate about it from the outside, but different strokes I guess.

Demonicpoodle

@Hiroy:

I never seen or paid much attention to the bad parts of tumblr to be completely honest.
Same thing with racists/equal right haters on Facebook pages.
Politics in Youtube comments.
The anmie/manga board on AP.
This list of extremes can go on.

It's kinda silly to make an entire opinion based off what people hate about it from the outside, but different strokes I guess.

Tumblr made quite a bad first impression on me but I've been giving it more of a chance and it does have some gems to be found through everything. I just can never find what I really wanna find on there though, like discussion. It has the same effect of a confusing layout like Reddit for me (well, Reddit's isn't so much confusing as just really inconvenient. Do I really wanna zig-zag through comments all the time? Really? Such an aggravating layout, not to mention karma and the hivemind mentality that produces.)

They have a decent-sized Tim and Eric fanbase and that's mainly what I go on there for. I found out about that new Beach House music video directed by Eric Wareheim from there. Tim & Eric are amazing shuuuush.

Jazzy Jinx

Yeah, so through conversing with a gay friend of mine, I realized I do something that's probably completely unhealthy. I'm bi-gendered, which means that at various times, I feel 100% like a boy and some other times… I feel 100% like a girl. And since I'm biologically a boy and I live in the South (not the most accepting place on Earth), I try to crush the girl side and hide it.

And I've done this... for a long time. Ever since public school crushed me. It's pretty much a survival tactic at this point, but the thing is, it's never going to go away. This is an entire side of my life and I just keep trying to hide it, like it's wrong for me to express that side of my personality. Like I have this one side that's "wrong" and my other side is "right" and it's in a constant tug-of-war state where I'm just feeling miserable.

Naturally, I do feel "normal" on a lot of days, but then I feel not so normal on others… And it wasn't really until I had that conversation that I realized, I really don't like hiding it. I've always had confidence issues and I've always been resilient about staying true to who you are but with this...

sigh

I feel like there's very little I can do.

RPGJay

I stopped taking my pills a few weeks ago.

I feel no different emotionally, but I'm just so tired.

Out of curiosity what kind of pills do you regularly take?

Jazzy Jinx

Dammit, Jay.

I thought you were going to respond to me. >_>

Cruithne

@Uncle:

Yeah, so through conversing with a gay friend of mine, I realized I do something that's probably completely unhealthy. I'm bi-gendered, which means that at various times, I feel 100% like a boy and some other times… I feel 100% like a girl. And since I'm biologically a boy and I live in the South (not the most accepting place on Earth), I try to crush the girl side and hide it.

And I've done this... for a long time. Ever since public school crushed me. It's pretty much a survival tactic at this point, but the thing is, it's never going to go away. This is an entire side of my life and I just keep trying to hide it, like it's wrong for me to express that side of my personality. Like I have this one side that's "wrong" and my other side is "right" and it's in a constant tug-of-war state where I'm just feeling miserable.

Naturally, I do feel "normal" on a lot of days, but then I feel not so normal on others… And it wasn't really until I had that conversation that I realized, I really don't like hiding it. I've always had confidence issues and I've always been resilient about staying true to who you are but with this...

sigh

I feel like there's very little I can do.

Is it that you're experiencing body dysphoria (as in you feel like you should have been born with girl bits) and just deal with it better on some days than others? Or do you just really really like things normally off limits to guys and the push for masculinity where you live is causing internal turmoil?

@RPGJay:

Out of curiosity what kind of pills do you regularly take?

Happy pills. I think the generic brand name is Wellbutrin.

Noqanky

What I suggest is taking things slowly with close family and friends. Like let girly mannerisms and comments creep up and if people ask just let them know you don't care and that there's nothing wrong with that.

It's kind of what I did. Nowadays, even friends that don't know laugh it off whenever I comment about a skirt looking cute or stuff like that. With time though, you should let the really really close people know, and really, by the time you do they'll consider it to have been pretty obvious. It's what happens with my girlfriend and nowadays we can joke around about stuff like her being almost as girly as I am, etc.

Cruithne: It's not so much about body disphoria (well, I speak for myself here.) My body is still my own and I don't want to change it, especially because half the time I really appreciate the idea of a male role (eg. being a father, a bro, a husband, etc.) But then on other times there's a strong association and overall … belonging-ness? ... with the other gender. Like during those times I feel inner turmoil and discomfort at identifying as a guy, and it's liberating to behave feminine or identify with women. And heck, I admit, during those times I really wish I could grow my hair and take hormones to really belong. But then it switches back ... it's definitely interesting.

Jazzy Jinx

Is it that you're experiencing body dysphoria (as in you feel like you should have been born with girl bits) and just deal with it better on some days than others? Or do you just really really like things normally off limits to guys and the push for masculinity where you live is causing internal turmoil?

Well, both. And with being bi-gendered, it's not like I'd be happier if I was born a girl. Then I'd want to be a guy on some days. >_>

My problem is that, I simply want to express my feminine side more, that's all. I want to be bubbly and have girly mannerisms and stuff on some days. And I would LOVE to be able to switch genders at will, that would be awesome. (But will never be reality).

Pretty much anything LGBT down here is off-limits. So it's really hard to express myself without… I don't know, getting lynched or something. Or at the least, heavily ridiculed.

Edit: Yay! Noqanky posted! Let me read this real quick.~

Edit 2: Read. Yeah, those are the sort of baby steps I've been taking lately. I've been testing the waters and calling things "cute" lately and they seem to go by under the radar. I think my problem might be somewhat compounded dealing with the ignorance in the South, though.

RPGJay

Happy pills. I think the generic brand name is Wellbutrin.

Were you having any adverse reactions to the medication? Because I mean no offense but unless you're having some serious issues as a result of the medication taking yourself off of anti-depressants is about the worst thing you could do.

Noqanky

@Uncle:

Well, both. And with being bi-gendered, it's not like I'd be happier if I was born a girl. Then I'd want to be a guy on some days. >_>

My problem is that, I simply want to express my feminine side more, that's all. I want to be bubbly and have girly mannerisms and stuff on some days. And I would LOVE to be able to switch genders at will, that would be awesome. (But will never be reality).

Pretty much anything LGBT down here is off-limits. So it's really hard to express myself without… I don't know, getting lynched or something. Or at the least, heavily ridiculed.

Edit: Yay! Noqanky posted! Let me read this real quick.~

Edit 2: Read. Yeah, those are the sort of baby steps I've been taking lately. I've been testing the waters and calling things "cute" lately and they seem to go by under the radar. I think my problem might be somewhat compounded dealing with the ignorance in the South, though.

Out of curiosity, where do you live?

Because I admit that does have an impact on who I tell. My gf is from California and we both went to a relatively liberal college, so I'm cool with her knowing. But, say parents, I do not feel like telling them ever given they're from the south … as in South America. And Catholicism has done a number on that culture when it comes to accepting things like these.

Louis-1988

I had a near death experience a couple of weeks back. I'm happy to be alive, but the truth is everything just feels so jaded now. Since the incident, there are very few things I care about and I'm finding that I need to force myself to keep on smiling; I've never had such an apathetic outlook on life before. The worst part of it is I can't make sense of why I feel this way.

Jazzy Jinx

Out of curiosity, where do you live?

Because I admit that does have an impact on who I tell. My gf is from California and we both went to a relatively liberal college, so I'm cool with her knowing. But, say parents, I do not feel like telling them ever given they're from the south … as in South America. And Catholicism has done a number on that culture when it comes to accepting things like these.

Louisiana.

I had a near death experience a couple of weeks back. I'm happy to be alive, but the truth is everything just feels so jaded now. Since the incident, there are very few things I care about and I'm finding that I need to force myself to keep on smiling; I've never had such an apathetic outlook on life before. The worst part of it is I can't make sense of why I feel this way.

That's weird.

You would think it would be the opposite.

Noqanky

I had a near death experience a couple of weeks back. I'm happy to be alive, but the truth is everything just feels so jaded now. Since the incident, there are very few things I care about and I'm finding that I need to force myself to keep on smiling; I've never had such an apathetic outlook on life before. The worst part of it is I can't make sense of why I feel this way.

Holy shit man, glad to know you're fine!

Maybe it's because of the impact of reality? You know, the idea that one day things can just end and that's that? Whatever it is, I hope with time you find your footing. After all, you're still here with us! And if things do happen that suddenly … might as well live the most of each day, no?

I really hope that helps. Even if like all things it does take some time.

@Kenny: yup, that's a tough one. Best of luck!

And hey, at least you have fantastic food ...

Louis-1988

You would think it would be the opposite.

I think I truly lost faith in other people.

Holy shit man, glad to know you're fine!

Maybe it's because of the impact of reality? You know, the idea that one day things can just end and that's that? Whatever it is, I hope with time you find your footing. After all, you're still here with us! And if things do happen that suddenly … might as well live the most of each day, no?

I really hope that helps. Even if like all things it does take some time.

Thanks. I haven't shared this with very many people, so it does help know that others care and want to offer their input! :D

Jazzy Jinx

What happened? If you don't mind me asking?

Was it that someone else was involved and almost got you killed?

Louis-1988

What happened? If you don't mind me asking?

Was it that someone else was involved and almost got you killed?

I was shot four times. Twice in the arm, once in the leg, and once on the left side of my chest.

Jazzy Jinx

Holy shit, yeah.

I can definitely see where you're coming from now. X_x

TheCrystalShip

As much as I like that site, the sheer amount of groupthink associated is rather disconcerting.

Well sir, consider me ignorant because every interaction I have had with that site or one of its followers have consisted of the same things. Namely obnoxiously intense people who make me hate the internet for encouraging such, as Cruithne greatly puts it, groupthink.

Groupthink, huh?

Wow, I have never encountered such a phenomenon anywhere else on the Internet, especially not Reddit.

Well yeah, but Tumblr takes it to the extreme. Most sites don't have a bunch of people telling you to kill yourself over doing something the majority doesn't like.

4chan? REDDIT, anybody!?

I have literally self-harmed because of the latter, can somebody come in here and back me up on this?

Plus they have the distinction of being the site that ruined all social justice forever.

And by that, you mean it's the only site where that discussion actually happens, without being shut down by MRA goons.

EDIT: I know that I was supposed to have "left" this forum, but Ray Manzarek died today, and I'm allowed to break my own rules.

Fuck you, cancer.

Shuhan

Groupthink, huh?

Wow, I have never encountered such a phenomenon anywhere else on the Internet, especially not Reddit.

4chan? REDDIT, anybody!?

I have literally self-harmed because of the latter, can somebody come in here and back me up on this?

And by that, you mean it's the only site where that discussion actually happens, without being shut down by MRA goons.

EDIT: I know that I was supposed to have "left" this forum, but Ray Manzarek died today, and I'm allowed to break my own rules.

Fuck you, cancer.

staples you to the forum yous noes goin nowheres…:(

Noqanky

I'm not saying Reddit or 4Chan are any better, Tumblr just happened to be at the top of my head during that particular moment. In essence, pledging such extreme allegiance with a group of people because they happen to be on a site can be dangerous. Such is the world of the internet.

Unless it's AP forums of course!! … :ninja:

TheCrystalShip

@Shuhan:

staples you to the forum yous noes goin nowheres…:(

I don't know.

It's a combination of moving to Santa Cruz, being really busy, and having bad experiences on the site.

And it's less that I think AP forums is "bad" (quite the opposite), but more so that the coolest and safest forum on the web (at least on this scale), is still not completely free of bullshit. So then it feels like nowhere is safe. But once I realize that those are impossible standards, and once I've settled down in SC, and once I'm not nearly as busy as I am now…

Yeah, I'll probably post here a lot more.

BTW, is nobody else upset about Ray Manzarek?

valiantt

I don't know.

It's a combination of moving to Santa Cruz

Hmm you moved to Santa Cruz? Welcome to Nor Cal then. Are you attending UC Santa Cruz or such?

TheCrystalShip

@valiantt:

Hmm you moved to Santa Cruz? Welcome to Nor Cal then. Are you attending UC Santa Cruz or such?

I'm moving in about a week. I'm not sure if I'm going to attend school there or move around some more first.

valiantt

I'm moving in about a week. I'm not sure if I'm going to attend school there or move around some more first.

Ahh you haven't moved yet. Well Santa Cruz is a good location. Very mellow there and fantastic weather. sigh I do miss those evenings on the beach by a bonfire. Good times.

Foolio

I was shot four times. Twice in the arm, once in the leg, and once on the left side of my chest.

Damn dude, dunno what to say. Except, all those times I talked about sending someone to kill you, I was joking.

Louis-1988

I know, Foolio. Never change. <3

Smudger

I would love to know the story behind that.

Cruithne

Cruithne: It's not so much about body disphoria (well, I speak for myself here.) My body is still my own and I don't want to change it, especially because half the time I really appreciate the idea of a male role (eg. being a father, a bro, a husband, etc.) But then on other times there's a strong association and overall … belonging-ness? ... with the other gender. Like during those times I feel inner turmoil and discomfort at identifying as a guy, and it's liberating to behave feminine or identify with women. And heck, I admit, during those times I really wish I could grow my hair and take hormones to really belong. But then it switches back ... it's definitely interesting.

@Uncle:

Well, both. And with being bi-gendered, it's not like I'd be happier if I was born a girl. Then I'd want to be a guy on some days. >_>

My problem is that, I simply want to express my feminine side more, that's all. I want to be bubbly and have girly mannerisms and stuff on some days. And I would LOVE to be able to switch genders at will, that would be awesome. (But will never be reality).

Pretty much anything LGBT down here is off-limits. So it's really hard to express myself without… I don't know, getting lynched or something. Or at the least, heavily ridiculed.

Edit: Yay! Noqanky posted! Let me read this real quick.~

Edit 2: Read. Yeah, those are the sort of baby steps I've been taking lately. I've been testing the waters and calling things "cute" lately and they seem to go by under the radar. I think my problem might be somewhat compounded dealing with the ignorance in the South, though.

Sooooo you two just really really like things normally off limits to guys and the push for masculinity where you live is causing internal turmoil. Hating and being uncomfortable with gender norms doesn't make you a different gender.

@RPGJay:

Were you having any adverse reactions to the medication? Because I mean no offense but unless you're having some serious issues as a result of the medication taking yourself off of anti-depressants is about the worst thing you could do.

Sometimes I'd get numbness headaches, but that's it. It was pretty pleasant.

But when I'd forget to take them I wouldn't feel any different, even when it was a stretch of a few days; so I stopped.

The first week was fine, the second week was fatigue, and from then on I've been getting headaches too. I figured it was just an aftereffect of stopping and that it'd go away, but it still hasn't yet. :/

I had a near death experience a couple of weeks back. I'm happy to be alive, but the truth is everything just feels so jaded now. Since the incident, there are very few things I care about and I'm finding that I need to force myself to keep on smiling; I've never had such an apathetic outlook on life before. The worst part of it is I can't make sense of why I feel this way.

Because someone wanted you dead (or you got caught in the crossfire of someone wanting someone else dead)?

Unlike an accident, where you could just give fate a big middle finger and use it as motivation to move on, what happened to you is a result of human evil.

Groupthink, huh?

Wow, I have never encountered such a phenomenon anywhere else on the Internet, especially not Reddit.

I never said it didn't exist on other sites. Tumblr's just what we were talking about.

4chan? REDDIT, anybody!?

I have literally self-harmed because of the latter, can somebody come in here and back me up on this?

What's there to back you up on? I know how bad they can be (though I've only been to Reddit a few times, I'll take your word for it since from what I can tell it's the male equivalent of Tumblr).

And by that, you mean it's the only site where that discussion actually happens, without being shut down by MRA goons.

No, I mean how they turned it into the Oppression Olympics. Radfems have made the issue of minority rights into a fucking joke.

MetaMario

@Uncle:

Red is the most awesome color in existence. Both of you can go choke on a tomato.

Yes, yes, YES.

I knew I liked you, Kenny.

Jazzy Jinx

Sooooo you two just really really like things normally off limits to guys and the push for masculinity where you live is causing internal turmoil. Hating and being uncomfortable with gender norms doesn't make you a different gender.

Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware you knew what it feels like to be bi-gendered (or trans in general). Although, I knew this kind of response was coming.

No, I don't really really like girly things. I really really associate with the female gender occasionally. If it was just a matter of liking girly things, I wouldn't give a fuck what anyone around me thinks because I would really really be associating with the male gender.

Being bi-gendered isn't like being traditional trans. Half the time, you do associate with your biological gender, and the other half you don't. Maybe it's difficult to understand but it's just that simple.

@MetaMario:

Yes, yes, YES.

I knew I liked you, Kenny.

I like you too, MetaMario. =)

wolfwood