@Superbear:
Has it been confirmed anywhere that he is indeed a "he"?
Multiple times it's been stated that he is a 'he'. If Kaidou was a 'she' we would already know. It's not exactly a secret to know what gender the Yonkou are. We know Big Mom is a woman, we know Kaidou is a man.
@The:
That's the very theory I mentioned 1000+ times. lol
I like this idea, because if he is a gigant monster, few times bigger than the island, and taller than mountains, that would mean that they could all fight him as a team. We would get Oars vs SH 2.0.
Also I think it is a little bit too early for Luffy to defeat a Yonkou mano-a-mano.
@i:
None taken at all. I just hear 'Joy Boy' and I'm brought to think of the first smiling, goofy joyful boy that comes to mind.
Look at the thread on the void century stuff, Joy Boy is more likely some Indonesian King, called Joyoboyo or something. Tons of similarities. Not my idea, btw. Mentioned tons of times before.
Joining AP just so I can post in this crazy thread.
Here's some of my own craziness, begging your pardon if this is old:
! Why do mermaids leave fishman island when their fins split at age 30 ? To mate with human males; mermen are sterile, their tail fins do not split (mentioned somewhere). ( Though why they do not pick a nice fishman, I have no idea. (This will probably never be revealed in the manga, but perhaps in an SBS.)
! Why do mermaids leave fishman island when their fins split at age 30 ? To mate with human males; mermen are sterile, their tail fins do not split (mentioned somewhere). ( Though why they do not pick a nice fishman, I have no idea. (This will probably never be revealed in the manga, but perhaps in an SBS.)
But then Chimney wouldn't be just 1/4 mermaid.
I just looked it up. I never noticed their boat in ch 700.
Thank you
That's actually a fact, we can even see the boat in which absalom, moriah and hogback got out of thriller bark.
I just looked it up. I never noticed their boat in ch 700.
Thank you
There are several boats in ch 700, I see one that could be reminder of Moriah..but its really hard to see any details of, so don't know if its the boat people are talking about or not . Can someone give pics of this boat and the one that Absalom, Moriah and Hogback used in Thriller Bark as a comparison to each other?
There are several boats in ch 700, I see one that could be reminder of Moriah..but its really hard to see any details of, so don't know if its the boat people are talking about or not . Can someone give pics of this boat and the one that Absalom, Moriah and Hogback used in Thriller Bark as a comparison to each other?
the boat is at page 6 chapter 700
you can notice the bat on the prow of the ship
There are several boats in ch 700, I see one that could be reminder of Moriah..but its really hard to see any details of, so don't know if its the boat people are talking about or not . Can someone give pics of this boat and the one that Absalom, Moriah and Hogback used in Thriller Bark as a comparison to each other?
Absalom is confirmed people
Op 700 chapter
http://i56.tinypic.com/34riut2.jpgOp 486 chapter
http://i51.tinypic.com/ofuano.jpgWe can see the thriller bark boat leaving the kid pirates hideout
you can even see thriller bark written on the sails
Can't wait to see Moriah back
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http://oi56.tinypic.com/34riut2.jpg
you can even see thriller bark written on the sails
the boat is at page 6 chapter 700
you can notice the bat on the prow of the ship
yeah that was the one I thought could be it in ch 700 but scan I was looking at wasn't clear enough to see the 'Thriller Bark' on it. and I couldn't remember the ship they escaped on way back when
Thanks to both, for the page in ch 700 to find it on and for the pics.
Theory Kaido
We know that someone was chasing after kinemon/monosuke/2 other samurai's( the chances are almost100%: kaido). Kinemon seems to have something against dragons(see spoiler). what if Kaido is a dragon since he is actualy "the strongest beat/creature".(or he has a df, mystical dragon type)
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Yeah. The theory has been passed around about Kaido being a giant, talking dragon.
Joining AP just so I can post in this crazy thread.
Here's some of my own craziness, begging your pardon if this is old:
- The hole in the ocean surrounding Enies Lobby was created by one of the ancient weapons; Uranus most probably. The weapon is still above on a sky island and is the source of Enies Lobby's eternal daylight.
- Mermaids/men and fishmen/women were originally the product of some madman with Law's ability. The goatmen and centaurs created by Law will eventually for a similar new race of people. Oda obviously read The Island of Dr Moreau, maybe Ceasar is even partly based on the 'good' docter.
- Absa, the reporter who gets all the scoops lately, is AbsaLOM Moria's stooge.
- Mink-men will have really long bodies with normal limbs.
- Most feable teory. For adults only ;)
! Why do mermaids leave fishman island when their fins split at age 30 ? To mate with human males; mermen are sterile, their tail fins do not split (mentioned somewhere). ( Though why they do not pick a nice fishman, I have no idea. (This will probably never be revealed in the manga, but perhaps in an SBS.)
otohime and neptune had children so mermen can have kids
yeah that was the one I thought could be it in ch 700 but scan I was looking at wasn't clear enough to see the 'Thriller Bark' on it. and I couldn't remember the ship they escaped on way back when
Thanks to both, for the page in ch 700 to find it on and for the pics.
Absalom is the mystery man on the Sunny.
@Superbear:
Absalom is the mystery man on the Sunny.
How many times do people have to point out that the voice is childlike and almost definitely a fairy.
@Monkey:
How many times do people have to point out that the voice us childlike and almost definitely a fairy.
More times than you can count, Monkey. More times than you can count.
Would Bonney be considered a valid suggestion for "mystery person aboard the Sunny"? Was it already suggested before?
While I do think it's most likely a fairy, it's kinda weird how noisy the person aboard the Sunny is. Aren't they supposed to be good at stealing?
Would Bonney be considered a valid suggestion for "mystery person aboard the Sunny"? Was it already suggested before?
While I do think it's most likely a fairy, it's kinda weird how noisy the person aboard the Sunny is. Aren't they supposed to be good at stealing?
Aren't they looking for food too?
But yeah. It's probably a fairy.
@Monkey:
How many times do people have to point out that the voice is childlike and almost definitely a fairy.
Sorry, didn't know that.
@Monkey:
How many times do people have to point out that the voice is childlike and almost definitely a fairy.
To be fair about it – and granted this is not to make it any less aggravating for the people that have the task of continuously pointing facts like that out every time something like this comes up -- it's really not unreasonable for someone not to know that. It's the sort of thing that gets lost in translation, I think, so the only reasonable way someone would know, short of knowing Japanese and reading the raw, would be to see it pointed out by someone else. It's one thing when it constantly came up in the chapter thread, often not more than a page or two after it had already been explained; but this is weeks after the fact, so it's hardly a stretch to think that Super never saw the childlike nature of the voice pointed out before now.
I mean, if you want to draw a comparison, you yourself were 'guilty' of having to ask why people were so certain that the blind old man was Fujitora, something that had been absolutely covered to death in its respective thread far more than this issue of the mystery person has been. It all comes down to the context of the situation, really, but you can't hold someone not knowing a thing like this against them, when it's perfectly reasonable for them not to know.
By childlike, I think it means more than just sounding like a child' s voice, I would think childlike would mean the speech pattern too. Back when Bonney altered her age to 'save' Zoro, she still talked in the same pattern as before. So while Bonney can de-age herself and have the voice of a child, her speech pattern would still be like an adult. This is one reason why I do not think that its Bonny.
But the nail in the coffin is that we have seen Bonny in ch 700.
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While I do think it's most likely a fairy, it's kinda weird how noisy the person aboard the Sunny is. Aren't they supposed to be good at stealing?
Well, since Zoro seems to have caught one, I doubt it. It seems more likely that they're invisible and just clumsy.
I have some thoughts about Kaidou and the group from Wano.
Well first off I believe Kaidou originates from Wano and tried to introduce new things to Wano like robotics or Devil Fruits(specifically Zoan), but the shogun did not agree believing Wano did not need any outside interference into their way of life. So Kaidou was ejected from the country and proceeded to become a part of Hanokuni. They were much more open to him and his ideas. Later on Kaidou decides to get revenge on Wano with the help of Hanokuni. Only 4 people escaped from the invasion and they were the Shogun, his right hand man Kanjuro, the Shogun's son, and Kinemon Momonosuke's man nanny. The shogun never caring for his son though has little emotional attachment to him. Kinemon has raised Momo for his entire life and Momo knows him as his true father and Kinemon not having any children of his own treats Momo as a son. They were heading for Zo, one of Kaidou's main island Zo being a zoo, to defeat Kaidou and hopefully regain control of the country. On the way there though they ended up on Dressrosa, this would explain why Doflamingo has captured Kanjuro and is trying to capture Kinemon too.
@KaW~KaW:
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Okay first off, Hanokuni is "Land of Teeth". The land of Flowers is "Kano kuni".
Secondly, you say "four people escaped" and then you proceed to name the Shogun, his son, Kanjuro, Kinemon and Momo, and even something about a nanny.
As far as I read it, you named like 6 or 5 people.
Thirdly, Zou being one of Kaidou's main islands sounds weird, since Law left his crew there. He wouldn't do that if it was a particular favourite of Kaido's.
You could argue that Law already took over that island, but for how long had Law been on Punk Hazard? I think that if you take over a Yonko's island you can expect them to be up your ass and kill you.
Okay first off, Hanokuni is "Land of Teeth". The land of Flowers is "Kano kuni".
Secondly, you say "four people escaped" and then you proceed to name the Shogun, his son, Kanjuro, Kinemon and Momo, and even something about a nanny.
As far as I read it, you named like 6 or 5 people.Thirdly, Zou being one of Kaidou's main islands sounds weird, since Law left his crew there. He wouldn't do that if it was a particular favourite of Kaido's.
You could argue that Law already took over that island, but for how long had Law been on Punk Hazard? I think that if you take over a Yonko's island you can expect them to be up your ass and kill you.
I think he meant Momo was the Shogun's son, and Kinemon was the nanny.
I think he meant Momo was the Shogun's son, and Kinemon was the nanny.
Hmm yea maybe. The post was written so weirdly…
Okay first off, Hanokuni is "Land of Teeth". The land of Flowers is "Kano kuni".
Secondly, you say "four people escaped" and then you proceed to name the Shogun, his son, Kanjuro, Kinemon and Momo, and even something about a nanny.
As far as I read it, you named like 6 or 5 people.Thirdly, Zou being one of Kaidou's main islands sounds weird, since Law left his crew there. He wouldn't do that if it was a particular favourite of Kaido's.
You could argue that Law already took over that island, but for how long had Law been on Punk Hazard? I think that if you take over a Yonko's island you can expect them to be up your ass and kill you.
He was talking about
-Shogun
-right hand man Kanjuro
-Shogun's son
-Kin-emon (implying that he's Momonosuke's nanny and that Momo is the shogun's son)
which is easy to understand if you keep reading the post but that's just for the sake of clarifying this misunderstanding.
(it's btw 'on your ass' since up your ass might hint to something entirely different…)
kyros disappeared from the corridor collosseum because he joined gold roger
kyros disappeared from the corridor collosseum because he joined gold roger
… Four years after Roger's death?
I know it's been brought up before but was Shanks a Yonkou when he met Luffy? He was obviously strong and Whitebeard said when a man of you're stature returns without an arm… However that could just mean he was a very strong and well known pirate like a Shichibukai candidate. Also somebody would of recognized a Yonkou in that area or have heard about it, I mean Zeff knew about Mihawk immediately (I know Zeff was a pirate). Lastly would the WG or the other Yonkou let another Yonkou leave their NW territory alone? I mean Shanks was there for a whole year and you're telling the WG didn't try to prevent a Yonkou was leaving the NW without a fight OR more likely that another one of the Yonkou would have taken his territory. Also a Yonkou should of been able to save Luffy without losing an arm or being distracted by a smoke bomb. Lastly gaining Yonkou level strength in 10 years shouldn't be out of the ordinary for a member of Roger's crew especially considering the improvement of the SNs in only 2 years. So do you guys agree Shanks wasn't a Yonkou at the time he was with Luffy?
I know it's been brought up before but was Shanks a Yonkou when he met Luffy? He was obviously strong and Whitebeard said when a man of you're stature returns without an arm… However that could just mean he was a very strong and well known pirate like a Shichibukai candidate. Also somebody would of recognized a Yonkou in that area or have heard about it, I mean Zeff knew about Mihawk immediately (I know Zeff was a pirate). Lastly would the WG or the other Yonkou let another Yonkou leave their NW territory alone? I mean Shanks was there for a whole year and you're telling the WG didn't try to prevent a Yonkou was leaving the NW without a fight OR more likely that another one of the Yonkou would have taken his territory. Also a Yonkou should of been able to save Luffy without losing an arm or being distracted by a smoke bomb. Lastly gaining Yonkou level strength in 10 years shouldn't be out of the ordinary for a member of Roger's crew especially considering the improvement of the SNs in only 2 years. So do you guys agree Shanks wasn't a Yonkou at the time he was with Luffy?
I always assumed as well that he wasn't a Yonko at that time as well.
A Yonko wouldn't be able to leave the New World just like that for a few years.
Whitebeard would've known Shanks from him being from Roger's crew. Their crews would have clashed quite a few times. I doubt Shanks was a Yonkou when he was still in East Blue.
Sorry if this was mentioned before.
What if Luffy's gear 3rd has evolved at the point he can actually become a giant? Maybe someone saw him in that form during the timeskip and that legend began, or maybe it's just a joke that will come true (like Usopp's lies). I see that as the natural upgrade of Gear 3rd. What do you think?
Sorry if this was mentioned before.
What if Luffy's gear 3rd has evolved at the point he can actually become a giant? Maybe someone saw him in that form during the timeskip and that legend began, or maybe it's just a joke that will come true (like Usopp's lies). I see that as the natural upgrade of Gear 3rd. What do you think?
Have you ever watched episode 576?
Cool! So it has been made before. Thank you guys, looking forward to see that in the manga
Cool! So it has been made before. Thank you guys, looking forward to see that in the manga
You're not serious, are you? Please tell me you're not serious.
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Technically that's not Gear third though, as its basically a giant wearing Luffy like a rubber suit (sort of).
It still might be possible for him to get to giant-mode by himself however. My only issue is that it doesn't seem like much of an improvement over regular Gear 3rd, aside from making him a bigger and slower target.
You're not serious, are you? Please tell me you're not serious.
Not "that scene in the manga", dude. I know it's filler stuff.
I mean I want Luffy to become a giant with gear 3rd (or without, I just read Drake_Cloud's post) in the manga.
Shanks,east blue,yonkou
I always assume that he wasn't at the time, even though it was the east blue everybody in the OP world knows who the yonkous are and I believe a yonkou cannot leave his territories without those being attack right away
Sorry if this was mentioned before.
What if Luffy's gear 3rd has evolved at the point he can actually become a giant? Maybe someone saw him in that form during the timeskip and that legend began, or maybe it's just a joke that will come true (like Usopp's lies). I see that as the natural upgrade of Gear 3rd. What do you think?
I wish it doesn't happen in the manga, it was so shitty to see Luffy in that form on the anime and Usopp's lies are something way different,,, talking about lies Usopp once told a lie about aliens, do you think that the alien will be Eneru with a fleet of space pirates (the space yonkou:ninja:)
You're not serious, are you? Please tell me you're not serious.
boys can dream, can't they?
I always assume that he wasn't at the time, even though it was the east blue everybody in the OP world knows who the yonkous are and I believe a yonkou cannot leave his territories without those being attack right away
They don't know Mihawk or devil fruit. Even Grand line people don't know who Ace is while he was rampaging just three years ago. The level of knowledge is really bellow average there.
I always assume that he wasn't at the time, even though it was the east blue everybody in the OP world knows who the yonkous are and I believe a yonkou cannot leave his territories without those being attack right away
Agreed. At the very least, it wouldn't seem to go without notice to the Marines/ WG and corresponding areas.
They don't know Mihawk or devil fruit. Even Grand line people don't know who Ace is while he was rampaging just three years ago. The level of knowledge is really bellow average there.
They don't know Ace, not for certain; maybe by himself.
But the flipside of Shadowgreed's comment IMHO, would be that in the NW, if no 1(marines, fellow pirates, higher ups in the WH) notices a Yonkou leaving, or the effect of a missing Yonkou and his crew for about a year or so, then Yonkou's don't mean anywhere near as much as they've been built up to mean. But are you saying in the NW, like with Shanks meeting Kaidoh, and Shanks meeting WB, if he goes anywhere really leaving his 'region' , the Marines at least wouldn't take notice and either try to stop him or inform the area it seems he is going to, that he's headed there? That type of news would seemingly spread, like with "the rumors/ Legends" and the competitors in the Colosseum. Eventually every1 would know who he was, especially with bounty pics, and some, if not most, would have treated him differently accordingly, (so it'd be apparent that this was a Yonkou).
Also the point I started at the beginning, maybe they don't recognize a Yonkou alone, but when that Yonkou's traveling around with what's probably the bulk of his crew? Not even 1 person is gonna recognize any of the crew, or even that most of these faces look 'massively familiar'? because "The level of knowledge is really bellow average there"? Don't see that as very likely. If even 1 notices, then they all should be able to figure it out from him telling others.
Of course everyone knows about these guys, the newspaper goes everywhere. Have you forgotten about the seagull news coo?
Against facts there are no arguments.
Of course everyone knows about these guys, the newspaper goes everywhere. Have you forgotten about the seagull news?
True, the News Coo (as the birds in employ of delivering the papers are called) seem to delivier the newspaper almost everywhere, certainly all of the Blue seas and the Grand Line.
Some disagree if they delivier to the Calm Belt or not due to Elder Nyon's comment of Amazon Lily comments of having to wait several days for the paper to find out the news. IF most of Amazon Lily doesn't get the newspaper, it would explain why most of the Kuja don't know about the outside world, like what devil fruits are. Its possible that Elder Nyon has a method of having it shipped (maybe help from Shakky). But no matter how she gets it, Elder Nyon still does get the newspaper and reads it. So while it may be limited, even people in the Calm Belt could get ahold of the papers.
Maybe there's a really low literacy rate in the OP Universe.
