If Croc doesn't know Haki, I guess he could have learned how to use it over the time skip. But I feel like he should have been knowing how to utilize it.
One Piece 701: Adventure in nation of Love, Passion, and Toys.
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Oh right also Coby was able to use Soru which is gear 2 speed so Coby could have beaten Crocodile since Luffy beat him in gear 1. Also Mihawk doesn't have haki remember? cus he never showed it. mOh yeah Roger didn't know haki either since he was never shown using it
To be fair, if Crocodile had known how to use Haki pre-timeskip, he would have done actual damage to Akainu.
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Formation Y joined in november 2012. must be one of the noobz that dont know anything about one piece :blink:
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If Croc doesn't know Haki, I guess he could have learned how to use it over the time skip. But I feel like he should have been knowing how to utilize it.
He was content with staying in Paradise, so he felt no need to learn it. His absence of Haki was the probably the reason he couldn't make it in the New World.
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Formation Y joined in november 2012. must be one of the noobz that dont know anything about one piece :blink:
You joined yesterday.
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To be fair, if Crocodile had known how to use Haki pre-timeskip, he would have done actual damage to Akainu.
Vista and Marco both attacked Akainu with haki.. and no visible damage resulted.
Croc obviously knows haki. Whether or not it's strong enough to work on top tier fighters like an admiral…that's debatable
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Vista and Marco both attacked Akainu with haki.. and no visible damage resulted.
Croc obviously knows haki. Whether or not it's strong enough to work on top tier fighters like an admiral…that's debatable
While I agree that he currently knows it, there is no proof that he could use it Pre-Timeskip.
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If Croc doesn't know Haki, I guess he could have learned how to use it over the time skip. But I feel like he should have been knowing how to utilize it.
Pre time-skip no one knows haki but post time-skip everyone knows haki.
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@Foxy:
While I agree that he currently knows it, there is no proof that he could use it Pre-Timeskip.
I agree there has been no definitive proof that he could use it pre-skip. However just judging by the fact that "All Vice Admirals and above have haki", I find it hard to believe that a shichibukai, who had spent time in the New World (fighting Whitebeard) wouldn't at least know the basics
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Vista and Marco both attacked Akainu with haki.. and no visible damage resulted.
Croc obviously knows haki. Whether or not it's strong enough to work on top tier fighters like an admiral…that's debatable
Vista and Marco only scratched Akainu but Crocodile cut him in half, even if his haki was weak it should cause some damage for that kind of attack.
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I'm really interested in seeing how Luffy's group interacts with Fujitora. They're already on good terms without knowing much about one another, so I see a friendship developing. But after the formalities and stuff is done, and they find out who the other is, that's when things will get rolling. They can either fight it out for a little bit, then get interrupted, and they go on with their day; or Fujitora can just neglect the Straw Hats and go after Doflamingo. Gonna be great regardless.
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I'm really interested in seeing how Luffy's group interacts with Fujitora. They're already on good terms without knowing much about one another, so I see a friendship developing. But after the formalities and stuff is done, and they find out who the other is, that's when things will get rolling. They can either fight it out for a little bit, then get interrupted, and they go on with their day; or Fujitora can just neglect the Straw Hats and go after Doflamingo. Gonna be great regardless.
gotta be honest I'd rather see Admiral vs DD than Admiral vs 5 Strawhats at the moment
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Pre time-skip no one knows haki but post time-skip everyone knows haki.
I know it seems like that, but so far the only people using Haki Post-Timeskip are the M3, Doflamingo, Law, Smoker and Vergo.
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@Foxy:
I know it seems like that, but so far the only people using Haki Post-Timeskip are the M3, Doflamingo, Law, Smoker and Vergo.
And fodder like Tashigi -.- and u think croc dont know it lullz
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I'm really interested in seeing how Luffy's group interacts with Fujitora. They're already on good terms without knowing much about one another, so I see a friendship developing. But after the formalities and stuff is done, and they find out who the other is, that's when things will get rolling. They can either fight it out for a little bit, then get interrupted, and they go on with their day; or Fujitora can just neglect the Straw Hats and go after Doflamingo. Gonna be great regardless.
sorry for double posting but this what I want to happen
I want Fujitora to be a dummy admiral somehow.! Fujitora: Who are you, young-one?
Luffy: I'm Monkey D. Luffy! The man who will become king of pirates.
"Join my crew, old man".
Fujitora: Ohohoho,scratching head how can old me be of use to you?
Luffy: But your strong and awesome.
Fujitora: blush thanks! But I have something to take care of first.
"Leaves Casino"
Luffy: with finger in nose w.t.h is wrong with that old man.
Fujitora: Hey Coby! Lets head for green bit.
Coby: Yes sir!
Fujitora: I will send those scum of the world "strawhats" to HELL.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
And fodder like Tashigi -.- and u think croc dont know it lullz
lol
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Vista and Marco only scratched Akainu but Crocodile cut him in half, even if his haki was weak it should cause some damage for that kind of attack.
Can't tell if you're joking, because that might be seen as the very 'damage difference' you're looking for. Especially with stronger Logia users can't really tell, since they seem to just not get injured/ heal/ reform/ w. e. you want to call it so easily after being attacked.
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@Foxy:
You joined yesterday.
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lmao this gif killing me here. Dardadadaa
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Vista and Marco only scratched Akainu but Crocodile cut him in half, even if his haki was weak it should cause some damage for that kind of attack.
maybe he decided not to use haki on that particular attack, so he would cut him in half. strategic attack. cause you know haki, you dont always have to use it.
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@LUFFYSMC:
Can't tell if you're joking, because that might be seen as the very 'damage difference' you're looking for. Especially with stronger Logia users can't really tell, since they seem to just not get injured/ heal/ reform/ w. e. you want to call it so easily after being attacked.
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! Croco-boy cut Akinu in half, if he had any little haki Akainu would've been wounded and logia's don't regenerate or heal wound. -
And fodder like Tashigi -.- and u think croc dont know it lullz
He might know how to use it post skip, but there's no indication at all that he knew how to use it pre skip. He had knowledge of its existence, but that is all we know.
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! http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/363199-untitled_20.png and manga version
! [http://imageftw.com/uploads/20110812/Croc surprised Akainu.jpg](http://imageftw.com/uploads/20110812/Croc surprised Akainu.jpg) Croco-boy cut Akinu in half, if he had any little haki Akainu would've been wounded and logia's don't regenerate or heal wound.as I said a couple post above. strategic. it was to stop akainu from attacking
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Croc….might know some things about haki? It would explain how he survived against Donflamingo while Smoker didn't...though Smoker seems to at least know armament haki.
....I think this is one of those things from the war that's too vague to tell. Remember, Croc was somewhat injured after the war, he had the standard post battle bandages. How about, he knows enough about it to survive against the top of the world, and fight the admirals?
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Croc….might know some things about haki? It would explain how he survived against Donflamingo while Smoker didn't...though Smoker seems to at least know armament haki.
....I think this is one of those things from the war that's too vague to tell. Remember, Croc was somewhat injured after the war, he had the standard post battle bandages. How about, he knows enough about it to survive against the top of the world, and fight the admirals?
Doffy clearly didn't use haki against crocodile.
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Croc….might know some things about haki? It would explain how he survived against Donflamingo while Smoker didn't...though Smoker seems to at least know armament haki.
....I think this is one of those things from the war that's too vague to tell. Remember, Croc was somewhat injured after the war, he had the standard post battle bandages. How about, he knows enough about it to survive against the top of the world, and fight the admirals?
Croc is certainly more of a veteran fighter than Smoker is. Just the fact that he's been to the NW before the timeskip proves this. He may not be at the top himself, but he's been around the block and hanging with the big boys for long enough to know at least how to hold his own.
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Doflamingo must of not been using Haki when he sliced off Crocodiles head or Croc reformed his head anticapting the attack so he didn't really cut him. Same thing Croc did when he sliced Akainu no Haki and it wasn't a strong attack. Croc didn't get defeated like Smoker and he fought Mihawk later. He was on the same playing field as Doflamingo/Mihawk. If they defeated him or even dented him really bad he would be weaker than a VA but he was Admiral lvl in Marineford because they were fighting equal off panel.
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@Formation:
Doflamingo must of not been using Haki when he sliced off Crocodiles head or Croc reformed his head anticapting the attack so he didn't really cut him. Same thing Croc did when he sliced Akainu no Haki and it wasn't a strong attack. Croc didn't get defeated like Smoker and he fought Mihawk later. He was on the same playing field as Doflamingo/Mihawk. If they defeated him or even dented him really bad he would be weaker than a VA but he was Admiral lvl in Marineford because they were fighting equal off panel.
weeeeell i dont know about admiral level, but VA level for sure
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@Formation:
VA but he was Admiral lvl in Marineford because they were fighting equal off panel.
So Luffy was above Admiral level during Alabasta?
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Crocodile does know about Haki
Remember how he reacted during the second round of his fight against Luffy. He commented that it was dumb for Luffy to challenge him as he currently was so he was most likely pointing out that Luffy couldn't use Haki yet.
for all we know he might know how to use it (at least Observation, since it was pointed out that he could turn into sand instantly thanks to his superior reflexes), but other than that time he saved Luffy from Akainu, there hasn't been a reason for him to use it.
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Can I write in Spanish by this time, please?
El capítulo estuvo increíble, me encantó. La mezcla de cosas vistas me emocionaron. Me encantaron las referencias a España (uno de mis sueños es conocer ese país). Revisé las 66 páginas de comentarios que se han hecho y me di cuenta que el capítulo realmente ha generado muchas expectativas acerca de la nueva saga.
I can't wait for more!
Thanks for the information about the references (specially to CCC, Aohige and Redon)Greetings from Chile!
P.S: I also support to 1PceXperience in his try to learning spanish :D
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anime version
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! [qimg]http://imageftw.com/uploads/20110812/Croc surprised Akainu.jpg[/qimg] Croco-boy cut Akinu in half, if he had any little haki Akainu would've been wounded and logia's don't regenerate or heal wound.Not quite sure that's actually when I'm talking about, but whatever, (I can look for it later). 1 thing to notice also is that that was still sand to the tip. My meaning being Akainu= molten lava. 'Just sand' should've been glass by then, so the possibility exists that something was protecting the sand…
Really with the bold? I did say "w. e. you want to call it" so that includes easily reassembling their particles, or (ok forgot to mention) possibly added endurance, or w. e. and yes either they clearly do that, or otherwise Marco's kick wasn't containing any haki against Kizaru? Yet he was able to touch a logia? Yet Kizaru was able to get back up, 'seemingly uninjured'?
Also your 1st comment, :
Vista and Marco only scratched Akainu but Crocodile cut him in half, even if his haki was weak it should cause some damage for that kind of attack.
Vista a sword user, we can agree was probably using at least "a little haki", right? Yet all his swords could do was 'scratch' Akainu? Seriously you're confusing me with these generalizations, that don't seem to take varying levels, varying motives, and or varying circumstances into account.
Once again don't know if you're joking or not, or looking for a specific phrase or words, either way….
Something seems off.LOLOLOL,
The best gif EVER!!!Oh, yeah totally agreed.
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I didn't think the thread could get any dumber.
Although, I'm pretty certain the poster in question is doing it on purpose
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I didn't think the thread could get any dumber.
Although, I'm pretty certain the poster in question is doing it on purpose
I was just looking through the spoiler thread a bit, Blue.
You really called how this thread was going to turn out from the very beginning, huh?
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I didn't think the thread could get any dumber.
Although, I'm pretty certain the poster in question is doing it on purpose
Its like this every week now apparently, the new year break people usually make random posts and jokes all the time because they are bored but this new users apparently decided to run with it and make that in every chapter thread.
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no I want Fujitora to be a dummy admiral somehow.
Fujitora: Who are you, young-one?
Luffy: I'm Monkey D. Luffy! The man who will become king of pirates.
"Join my crew, old man".
Fujitora: Ohohoho,scratching head how can old me be of use to you?
Luffy: But your strong and awesome.
Fujitora: blush thanks! But I have something to take care of first.
"Leaves Casino"
Luffy: with finger in nose w.t.h is wrong with that old man.
Fujitora: Hey Coby! Lets head for green bit.
Coby: Yes sir!
Fujitora: I will send those scum of the world "strawhats" to HELL.Eh, I see him more as Kuzan's spiritual heir in the admirals. Maybe not deliberately avoiding fighting the SH, but I'm willing to bet he can identify priorities better. Granted, Luffy will probably have to do more than stop him from getting cheated at roulette to get on his good side, but he seems like the good sort.
We presumably have another open slot for the jackass "Kill everything" Admiral.
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Ugh I hope we don't get a Sakazuki clone (considering how he is still relatively active). I hope, if it IS the Nue theme, we have an interesting snake admiral.
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i think coby and helmeppo prolly got their own crew and ship now….and an admiral dont really bring other higher ranking officers with them most of the time....the only one i can remember is kizaru bringing sentoumaru along because sentoumaru orders the pacifistas.
i dont know why coby should be in this arc to be honest....just to eat the fruit?
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Eh, I see him more as Kuzan's spiritual heir in the admirals. Maybe not deliberately avoiding fighting the SH, but I'm willing to bet he can identify priorities better. Granted, Luffy will probably have to do more than stop him from getting cheated at roulette to get on his good side, but he seems like the good sort.
We presumably have another open slot for the jackass "Kill everything" Admiral.
yep. i definitely got the "aokiji vibe" from that blind man/fujitora from the get-go.
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The past chapter discussion threads has been a cesspool of idiocy. It's around the 30-40 page mark when the migraines occur.
With-topic, I seriously want to see toy characters based on significant toys. A Barbie-esque character and Sanji would make some hilarious interactions.
And with a Russian Doll fruit, I would also like a Mr. Potato Head fruit (though, one can argue that's similar to the other body chopping fruits).
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As much as I want to see Coby, I hope he's not in this arc. It will likely mean that he will eat Ace's fruit. :sad:
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Does anybody else think Doflamingo is controlling the entire toy population of Dressrosa with his strings? It would stand to reason that is why he was their king.
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As much as I want to see Coby, I hope he's not in this arc. It will likely mean that he will eat Ace's fruit. :sad:
With Kuzan's recent appearance, I will not be surprised if most, or all, characters that made their time-skip appearance in One Piece Film Z will be seen in the manga soon.
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It seems like Haki is the basis of so many pointless debates on One Piece forums and on One Piece videos on Youtube.
Like debates over if Whitebeard, the strongest pirate captain after Roger and the major threat to the Marines, has Haki or not… (look at the debate in the Aokiji vs Whitebeard Youtube video) -_-
Or the Admirals, who are a rank above the Vice-Admirals, do not know haki...Thus there is a debate on the basis that Vice-Admirals have to learn haki to reach their rank but Admirals do not need to learn it? What????
I think at this point in the New World, it's safe to say that everybody knows Haki or as least have learnt the basics. Besides, knowledge of Haki does not make someone a master of it. The Amazons on Amazon Lily have Haki, but do you think they are able to defeat the logia Admirals?
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i think coby and helmeppo prolly got their own crew and ship now….and an admiral dont really bring other higher ranking officers with them most of the time....the only one i can remember is kizaru bringing sentoumaru along because sentoumaru orders the pacifistas. i dont know why coby should be in this arc to be honest....just to eat the fruit? --- Update From New Post Merge --- yep. i definitely got the "aokiji vibe" from that blind man/fujitora from the get-go.
Kizaru was dealing with rookies in the grand line. They are in the NW world so the situation is different and the Marines got stronger. Sending out one "Admiral" without introducing characters we haven't seen over the skip isn't going to work. The alliance was closer to Dressrosa anyways. The Blind guy isn't an Admiral.
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I'm sorry for derailing the thread you guys, I honestly was just curious about Croc knowing Haki or not, but I see that bringing it up here was not right. Carry on my wayward sons.
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s@Formation:
Kizaru was dealing with rookies in the grand line. They are in the NW world so the situation is different and the Marines got stronger. Sending out one "Admiral" without introducing characters we haven't seen over the skip isn't going to work. The alliance was closer to Dressrosa anyways. The Blind guy isn't an Admiral.
ow-kei,….now on the topic...im with the couple of guys here who thinks that the lolita girl was the one who makes the toys move. i assume she got the ability to make inamite objects come to life "key fruit? - you know? that knob you turn on the back of a toy to make it move. or soul fruit"
the fairies being mentioned is prolly a foreshadowing of the future elbaf arc.
*it would also be cool if there would be a "self-thinking toy" like the nutcracker or scarecrow who will ally with the crew for sometime.
well anyways, luffy's group just seems to me like they will enter the tournament in the coliseum (if ever that thing would really come true)
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For people saying that the blind man's power is too similar to blackbeard: blackbeard's is a logia and is darkness which means absorbing things and negating things. Gravity is a good bit different
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Nothing stops you guys from having a dumb conversation, but make sure you guys keep it civil by minding your manners and watching the name calling.
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@Formation:
Kizaru was dealing with rookies in the grand line. They are in the NW world so the situation is different and the Marines got stronger. Sending out one "Admiral" without introducing characters we haven't seen over the skip isn't going to work. The alliance was closer to Dressrosa anyways. The Blind guy isn't an Admiral.
That blind guy is so much Fujitora that it's almost ridiculous:
1. He is typically "drawn" like an admiral (looks like a real life person)
2. He is obviously in disguise @ Dressrosa (Buggy also wore such a coat when he was in Loguetown so that Smoker couldn't "recognize" him).
3. If it was a guy from Wano, Kin would have recognized him.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Another thought of mine I had b4 this chap:
Since Drake messed with that robo-guy in the NW, I thought that Kaidou might have sum DF that turns humans into sum kind of robots (would explain how Moria lost his mates).
Now that I see the toys of Dressrosa I can't stop to think that this is Kaidou's work. He turned sum people into toys. Since DD is the king there he inofficially swore revenge to Kaidou. Officially he offered him the Smiles creating a business bond to Kaidou preventing him from turning more people into toys.
As we know from Momo's, these Smiles have sum kind of bad sidie effects that DD might use to make Kaidou fall.
What do you guys think of this?
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Hugh–What if the sword has the DF ability and therefore the blind guy needs to unsheathe it to use it?
I thought of that too. Probably not the case, but I'd like it if Oda brought back that idea. I think the last guy to have an inanimate object eat a DF was Spandam, years ago.
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Not sure if this has been talked about…but why was Kin shocked by the people of Dressrosa if he was already there with Momo and the two other samurai?
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So, it seems like Law, Ussop and Robin are the decoy squad right? Sounds like a good plan. lol
I don't know what Oda is thinking here, but it just seems like a bad idea all around. And if Fujitora goes there to find them (and Doflamingo)… this could get bad real quick.