Why do people keep saying the Samurai was Fujitora? Thats completely baseless. We have no idea who he is.
No , plenty evidence has been given, some of you just choose to post before reading the thread.
Why do people keep saying the Samurai was Fujitora? Thats completely baseless. We have no idea who he is.
No , plenty evidence has been given, some of you just choose to post before reading the thread.
You're in denial, just accept it.
1. They are hidden under that big ass cloak you choose to ignore.
2. He's a relatively new Admiral and how many characters have known them without having met them previously?
3. It's a manga, how are you supposed to see if his gravity is purp or not?Don't be silly.
Look at his post history.
Have people talked about the toys yet?
Typically when we see something inexplicable, a Devil Fruit user is behind it. Of the Devil Fruit users we've seen, Law and Moria should both be capable of producing this current phenomenon, but the more likely answer is that it's the actions of one of Doflamingo's unnamed subordinate-captains. The server mentioned "fairies" which might be a hint towards the cause of the animated toys…
Alright so, since Diamante is in charge of the Colosseum, it can be inferred that Doflamingo's sub-bosses are likewise in charge of various parts of his country. Kinemon was equally surprised by the toys, so they probably aren't spread out over the entire country. Maybe they exist in greater numbers, in Acacia?
I saw, and the time to mess with you isn't yet… i just found it a shame i wasn't around when any sort of discussion about it was going on. #necro bumping not working.
Alright, well.. I wish you were there when I first mentioned it. Now I have someone to chat with! :)
I feel as if those fairies are responsible for the toys being animated the way they are. ¿qué te parece amigo?
Who said Logias had to be a state of matter? That has nothing to do with it. Logia just allows the user to become any form of energy or matter found in nature.
The only Logia that exists that isn't made of matter is Kizaru's. What I'm trying to point out is that Oda has broken our previous speculations about Logia's in the past by introducing the pika pika no mi. Even Enel's goro goro no mi is a state of matter, aka plasma.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong but light is the only element used as a logia that doesn't follow using a tangible thing/substance. Which is why I say that I can see the gravity fruit as a logia.
@ITaeyeon:
He'll take off his cloak and we'll see a purple colored a double breasted suit.
Its not like we saw what's under those ragged cloak already.
The admirals are closely watched by the govermenr, they always wear marine clothes all the time..
Is he the 7th schichibukai
or a Former Roger Mate?
I HOPE it's a throwaway line. Too. . ."dark" for my tastes, actually. And a plot point, how? One of these ladies will stab Sanji?
I wonder if this place's sexism brigade will be up in arms about the fact that domestic violence against men in the form of women stabbing and/or murdering their boyfriends because of jealousy is being played for laughs à la Chicago
[29 pages later]
Who am I kidding of course they're not
Even if "spirit levels" were comparable to some sort of spiritual signature, how would someone who has never met Zoro and Luffy recognise them? Surely, the marines don't have a record of these spirit levels that can be used like criminal scents for K9 units…
It's truth they don't have a record of such of things but I believe you can sense strong spirits and If Akainu sent a blind man to do this job is because the guy should at least have a way of identifying the SHs, he have never met them before but your instinct alone should tell you this is the guy.
@Panda:
I'm not seeing the issue here, to be honest?
He said he didn't know who Luffy was because he didn't know how Luffy was. Even if you assumed he had sensed that he was there prior to him intervening, through use of his CoO, I don't believe we've ever had any sort of indication whatsoever that a person can be identified using Haki.
We don't have it yet but I think we will and how in hell will this guys identify the SHs, if he's blind is not like he's going to walk around and ask "are you strawhat luffy" even thought knowing Luffy he will say "Yes this is me" LOL
forgive me if this kind of out-of-nowhere….but is anyone considering the possibility of fujitora being the "samurai" gorousei himself? and bonney just made him younger????
tumbleweeds
ok...move along, there's nothing here. LOL
Funny. Exaggerate all you like. I made an observation about the swords and wanted to share with the community.
The blind man look like Urouge.Urouge's father maybe.?LOL.
Maybe he has wings under his robe. :)
No, I don't think so XD
I'm just annoyed by this "There's still idiots thinking it's not Fujitora? lol" crap.
That's understandable, and I won't argue with that just on principle. I certainly tend to find it distasteful when someone gets ragged on for having a different opinion, myself.
Still, if not necessarily to justify it, the thing to bear (YOHOHO PANDA JOKE) in mind here is that people saying it isn't Fujitora are arguing directly in the face of the evidence that he is, while providing little, and weak, to no evidence to support themselves.
It's a bit like the "There's only one admiral!" debacle of a few weeks back. It's not, I would hope, the fact that someone held that opinion that drew the mockery and ire of most of the forum, per se; rather, the fact that that very chapter had explicitly referred to 'admirals', plural, and the only thing that could be done to counter that was to say that must have been a mistake.
I grant this situation is not quite so clear cut, but it comes across much the same to me, so while I certainly appreciate your annoyance, I wonder if you can understand the frustration that makes the people you are annoyed with post as they do. It's always best to try to understand where the opposing side is coming from, after all.
Gravity is purple? Seriously?
For some reason, gravity is represented as purple in Japanese pop culture.
Yup they are definitely brothers
Tell you what. We make a bet If he is not Fujitora I leave this forum, if he is, you leave…
No? I thought so..., but please stop posting that he is not all the time...
The admirals are closely watched by the govermenr, they always wear marine clothes all the time..
Admirals don't even wear Marine clothes. They wear their own style of shirts. Hell, Kizaru rocks pin-striped yellow suit. tu no tienen sentido~
I'm just annoyed by this "There's still idiots thinking it's not Fujitora? lol" crap.
You can be nice about it and just call them a bit thick or slow on the uptake. But in the end it's obvious
At this stage. With all the beat you over the head obvious hints denying it is just a step above trolling
And i mean a little friendly trolling is allright and all. But don't go overboard with it
Tell you what. We make a bet If he is not Fujitora I leave this forum, if he is, you leave…
No? I thought so..., but please stop posting that he is not all the time...
Hoenstly, as much as I believe that he's Fujitora, no one knows for sure, especially with the way Oda is. As I stated before, this guy could easily be the other unnamed admiral. All this "I'ma leave the forum" is tomarlo demasiado~
Alright, well.. I wish you were there when I first mentioned it. Now I have someone to chat with! :)
I feel as if those fairies are responsible for the toys being animated the way they are. ¿qué te parece amigo?
i was thinking of that too, since it was a toy that mentioned it first as well.. i think a big hint will be when we find out if the toys can leave the island or not. Also, the boy who got tangled in his strings, da hell is controlling the strings? From my understanding DD became king there when he became a shichibukai, so i doubt that the toys being alive are affiliated to him.
The only Logia that exists that isn't made of matter is Kizaru's. What I'm trying to point out is that Oda has broken our previous speculations about Logia's in the past by introducing the pika pika no mi. Even Enel's goro goro no mi is a state of matter, aka plasma.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong but light is the only element used as a logia that doesn't follow using a tangible thing/substance. Which is why I say that I can see the gravity fruit as a logia.
ah, well welcome to physics! while light does in fact seem to not be "matter", it still consists of photons. The reason why light travels at, well, light speed, is because it acts as a wave.
I'm just loving the fact that Dressrosa has a spanish theme! And those living toys just made it all the better lol! Seems like it will be one amazing Arc I can't wait for the action to begin
@wolfwoof:
You can be nice about it and just call them a bit thick or slow on the uptake. But in the end it's obvious
At this stage. With all the beat you over the head obvious hints denying it is just a step above trolling
And i mean a little friendly trolling is allright and all. But don't go overboard with it
To clarify, jack, wolf isn't talking about you here. Just the obvious usual suspects.
If would be hilarious if he ends up being the OTHER admiral though, lol.
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Yup they are definitely brothers
Or its Kizaru himself but became fat and blind? :ninja: jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee XD
OMG Hamad you're such a stubborn dude! He is Fujitora!! (for me)
I'm really seeing Luffy saying: "MY NAME IS MONK…...." and then Sanji shuts his mouth. So a friendship is born....
The admirals are closely watched by the govermenr, they always wear marine clothes all the time..
Is he the 7th schichibukai
or a Former Roger Mate?
I haven't been keeping up with any discussions but Akainu did send out Fujitora to keep an eye on the dealings between the Strawfalgar alliance. Does it not make sense that maybe, just maybe Fujitora is wearing the cloak to keep a low profile? Not to mention he is on a ex-warlord's island. Chances are an Admiral (well known or not) would not be welcomed to the island.
Have people talked about the toys yet?
Typically when we see something inexplicable, a Devil Fruit user is behind it. Of the Devil Fruit users we've seen, Law and Moria should both be capable of producing this current phenomenon, but the more likely answer is that it's the actions of one of Doflamingo's unnamed subordinate-captains. The server mentioned "fairies" which might be a hint towards the cause of the animated toys…
maybe it's related to DD? there certainly seems to be a puppetry motif going on here…
It's truth they don't have a record of such of things but I believe you can sense strong spirits and If Akainu sent a blind man to do this job is because the guy should at least have a way of identifying the SHs, he have never met them before but your instinct alone should tell you this is the guy.
Maybe… but how can he tell the difference between one strong aura and another?
or its just an act so as to not give away his true identity…
Here's the problem with this theory 1pce, if it is the other missing Admiral ,why is Kinemon just sitting there like he's never seen him before?
I'm pretty sure he'd be overcome with emotion, but instead he just sat back like the rest of the crew because they knew Luffy was at it again.
I think you're confusing the missing samurai and the unknown Admiral there.
i was thinking of that too, since it was a toy that mentioned it first as well.. i think a big hint will be when we find out if the toys can leave the island or not. Also, the boy who got tangled in his strings, da hell is controlling the strings? From my understanding DD became king there when he became a shichibukai, so i doubt that the toys being alive are affiliated to him.
I have a strong feeling that these will be as implemented into the arc's story as the children were with Punk Hazard. And I honestly wouldn't mind that. Gosh! This arc me ha desear más~
When Shanks and Kaidou fought, the Marines feared the aftermath of that fight, so they sent Fujitora to deal with it.
It's a shame that chopper was not part of Law's group, I would have loved to see the 2 doctors interacting, throw in robin in there and that would have been a perfect group.
And props to Oda, he's been hyping up Doflamingo for over 500 chapters, and he turns him out to be a king, a pirate, a businessman, a weapons dealer, a slave house owner, a king of a toy country and on top of all that he's an underground broker.
Why would Joker need a hidden alias, if he already sells slaves, weapons and has a pirate crew under his front name as it is?
To clarify, jack, wolf isn't talking about you here. Just the obvious usual suspects.
If would be hilarious if he ends up being the OTHER admiral though, lol.
Aohige, I hope this hasn't been asked yet but is there an explanation for gravity being connected to the colour purple in Japanese pop culture or is it just something random?
Here's the problem with this theory 1pce, if it is the other missing Samurai ,why is Kinemon just sitting there like he's never seen him before?
I'm pretty sure he'd be overcome with emotion, but instead he just sat back like the rest of the crew because they knew Luffy was at it again.
Whoa there buddy, usted no entiende~.
I never stated that that guy was the other samurai. I stated that he could be the unnamed admiral
I haven't been keeping up with any discussions but Akainu did send out Fujitora to keep an eye on the dealings between the Strawfalgar alliance. Does it not make sense that maybe, just maybe Fujitora is wearing the cloak to keep a low profile? Not to mention he is on a ex-warlord's island. Chances are an Admiral (well known or not) would not be welcomed to the island.
Yea keep an eye when he is blind…
@Ra:
I didn't have time to read the entire thread so I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but is no one else disturbed by the implication that humans can reproduce with the toys of this island? I'm referring to the woman with the baby toy in a stroller. I was thinking maybe the toys are cyborgs of some sort and they used to be human at one point, or part of them still is. Either way…..eeesh.
toys? factory ? wapol … ?
The only Logia that exists that isn't made of matter is Kizaru's. What I'm trying to point out is that Oda has broken our previous speculations about Logia's in the past by introducing the pika pika no mi. Even Enel's goro goro no mi is a state of matter, aka plasma.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong but light is the only element used as a logia that doesn't follow using a tangible thing/substance. Which is why I say that I can see the gravity fruit as a logia.
I seriously doubt Oda is going by states of matter. I'm pretty sure he's just using whatever intangible elements he finds in nature.
A gravity logia would be pretty beast though but isn't that what Blackbeard's power is?
BB is Darkness which isn't matter at all and he produces gravity and is considered a logia.
Aohige, I hope this hasn't been asked yet but is there an explanation for gravity being connected to the colour purple in Japanese pop culture or is it just something random?
I don't personally associate any color with gravity, but it does seem to be popular color to use on characters representing blackholes and whatnot.
Kinnikuman's "Blackhole" wrestler was red and black, but the actual black hole itself was purple lol.
I think the guy in the end of the chapter is here for the tournament.
In the next chapter we are going to see other contestants.
Whowoooo if this happens.. this arc is going to be amazing for me.
This Fujitora talk is the same as "Buggy is a Shichibukai". While it is obvious some people will argue over and over that it isn't confirmed, but when it turns out to be true everyone will have known this from the start.
Admirals don't even wear Marine clothes. They wear their own style of shirts. Hell, Kizaru rocks pin-striped yellow suit. tu no tienen sentido~
that would be the only option really, but since Fujitora was sent to Dressrosa that is really really unlikely.
I was seriously thinking this was going to be just a nice "look at this place, it's so nice, but there're problems too" chapter, then Oda makes the guy open a freaking hole on the floor.
Purple is also the color of royalty though, for all intent and purposes, could fujitora be a high ranking marine with a tenryuubito background? as for his powers, seems more than obviously related to gravity, though having an opposite force act on people isn't necessarily the case, he also seemed to slightly draw his sword before the hole appeared, why would he need that to activate his power? so many questions… so little concrete answers.
purple and blue are often used with black in visual medium
(case in point, Batman)
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It allows the artist to show detail
I think you're confusing the missing samurai and the unknown Admiral there.
Whoa there buddy, usted no entiende~.
I never stated that that guy was the other samurai. I stated that he could be the unnamed admiral
Yea kind of a brain fart on my part. lol
This reminds me of the old movie "Babes in Toyland". I can totally see the factory being destroyed the same way as well as the final battle going the same direction. heh these past 3 chapters have been most excellent.
that would be the only option really, but since Fujitora was sent to Dressrosa that is really really unlikely.
BUt he's covered up. Who's to say that underneath that cloak he has on the Marine cape. Too many of you guys are saltar a conclusiones~
Purple is also the color of royalty though, for all intent and purposes, could fujitora be a high ranking marine with a tenryuubito background?
It depends on the royalty. Even on One Piece, the tenryuubito use more white clothes than anything else.
I don't personally associate any color with gravity, but it does seem to be popular color to use on characters representing blackholes and whatnot.
Kinnikuman's "Blackhole" wrestler was red and black, but the actual black hole itself was purple lol.
Ah okay, thank you.
Yea keep an eye when he is blind…
Hahaha, yeah, good one. Don't take it up with me, that's Akainu's order. CoO is all that's necessary and his no doubt insane hearing if he is the admiral.
I seriously doubt Oda is going by states of matter. I'm pretty sure he's just using whatever intangible elements he finds in nature.
A gravity logia would be pretty beast though but isn't that what Blackbeard's power is?
BB is Darkness which isn't matter at all and he produces gravity and is considered a logia.
Yeah i forgot about bb when thinking about contradictions since he isn't intangible. All I'm sating is that it would be cool for FujiTora's fruit to be a Logia and I don't really see a reason as to why it can't be.
If the paradigm admiral->inspired to some japanese actor holds trur, shouldn't we assume that the 3rd admiral will be a new character,
or there's some potential admiral among the vice-admirals already seen?
Yeah i forgot about bb when thinking about contradictions since he isn't intangible. All I'm sating is that it would be cool for FujiTora's fruit to be a Logia and I don't really see a reason as to why it can't be.
Blackbeard is theoretically intangible, the only problem is his "core" is a singularity, attacks are pulled there regardless of his logia powers. at least if i look at it that way, it makes sense. Which is why Ace was confused when his confirmation attack hit.