I know one thing's for sure. With the way Oda has been glossing over the latest fights… i'd personally like to see some shonen battling injected into an arc. A tournament is a perfect method of doing that. But that shouldn't be the reason to do it. Always story, always first.
How do you feel about One Piece having a Tournament Arc?
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lol just…. lol An island full of Mihawk-level swordsmen, and they are bothered by Kaidou/DD why?
Don't know where you are getting that info from. All Kinemon said is that he was going to Zou and Kanjuroo got captured and the 3rd Samurai is nowhere to be seen. I don't know why you think that is funny. Mihawk would never defeat Ryuma in his prime who is considered legendary in Wano.
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@Formation:
Don't know where you are getting that info from. All Kinemon said is that he was going to Zou and Kanjuroo got captured and the 3rd Samurai is nowhere to be seen. I don't know why you think that is funny. Mihawk would never defeat Ryuma in his prime who is considered legendary in Wano.
Mihawk is a living legend of the WORLD (which includes Wano)
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i like a torunament if the tournament would be like team vs team, like 11 vs 11, with the loser being eliminated and the winner gets on fighting so we get to see lots of matchups.
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Mihawk is a living legend of the WORLD (which includes Wano)
It's just a title and he hasn't fought every strong Swordsman in the OP series. It doesn't include Wano because he hasn't fought anybody there or even gone there.
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Has it been stated anywhere that Mihawk has never gone to Wano? I mean the guy has a ship that he takes pretty much anywhere in the world up to pretty deep in the new world, and he considers himself the strongest swordsman in the world. You don't think the guy would have gone to wano to test himself at some point?
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Mihawk is a living legend of the WORLD (which includes Wano)
Eastblue pretty much don't know him. And Wano don't even know about devil fruit so…
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It could be good as long as it's written well. So if Oda handles it well, I don't see a negative to it. At the end it won't be too different from the usual matchups of certain good guys vs bad, other than seeing the good guys fight more than once (2 or 3 times).
I also can't stop laughing at the massive hard-on Formation Y seems to have with samurais. Especially with Zoro getting a new master shortly after spending 2 years training with the best swordsman in the world.
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@Formation:
Yes there should be a tournament Arc in Wano. The Samurai would laugh at Zoro because how weak he is compared to them. He would get fodderized by the experienced Samurai then get's a new Sensei trains with him and get's stronger.
You have an odd obsession with thoughts of Zoro's inferiority to Wano's samurai.
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I know one thing's for sure. With the way Oda has been glossing over the latest fights… i'd personally like to see some shonen battling injected into an arc. A tournament is a perfect method of doing that. But that shouldn't be the reason to do it. Always story, always first.
This is how I feel. I haven't really hated any of Oda's battles, in fact I think they're more natural than the usual ones, and allow the story to move, which is always my main concern. But I'd love a small tournament to take place over 5-10 chapters with really cool fights if it was integrated well into the story.
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Tournaments can be great when written well. Quit using FT and Reborn as the standard. Just because a lot of series fuck it up doesn't mean they can't be good. Look at Naruto part one, Negima and Kenichi. They had fantastic tournament arcs mostly because of how well done the fights are, how unpredictable the matchups were and the little twists and turns behind the scenes that kept things fresh. I'm highly anticipating a straight OP tournament arc. I really hope Oda doesn't blaze through it either but takes his time with it. With his creativity, it would be great.
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I put the second option although I haven't read any other shonen series. I actually hope that there's gonna be a tournament arc. It's probably more like a gladiator competition compared to Davy Back Fight so it's not such a big deal anyway.
(PS. Why do people hate the Davy Back Fight arc so much? I actually kinda liked it. Each for their own I guess!)
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I kind of enjoyed the Davy Back Fight too. Most of the problems people seem to have with it from what I've read are Foxy being annoying and/or ugly (quite a few people wonder if Oda was on acid when he created him) and the arc having no relevance to the overall story besides the introduction of Kuzan.
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@Medical:
I kind of enjoyed the Davy Back Fight too. Most of the problems people seem to have with it from what I've read are Foxy being annoying and/or ugly (quite a few people wonder if Oda was on acid when he created him) and the arc having no relevance to the overall story besides the introduction of Kuzan.
To be honest, I kinda liked Foxy too. He wasn't the greatest villain ever but gave a few cheap laughs. Especially after Luffy's victory. :)
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@Light:
Why do people hate the Davy Back Fight arc so much? I actually kinda liked it. Each for their own I guess!
The Davy Back Fight arc is one of my favorite arcs.
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A Tournament would be a good addition to the series.
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The Grand Line itself is basically a giant tournament of who can survive until Raftel, if you think about it.
More than a tournament, I say it's a race. Oh well, we all get the point. ;)
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@Rogues':
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100113081041/yuyuhakusho/images/0/0b/Team_toguro.jpg
If Oda manages to make something half as good, he will have done an amazing job.
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Well, the world of One Piece makes it harder to do a good tournament arc than most other shonen series, I think. The primary structure of the series is already like one big tournament where (to compare with Dragon Ball) East Blue is the qualifying rounds, Grand Line is the quarter finals, New World is the semi finals, and Raftel is THE finals. Pirates are criminals who fight and kill each other left and right and actively seek battles with each other. They're not gonna wait for a tournament to appear for them to defeat each other. A shonen tournament is typically a fair competition where most of the participants are the heroes and other good guys (at least people who do not directly oppose the law yet), with one or a few villains sneaking in with some scheme. In One Piece, well… Wouldn't exactly be the case if it was a pirate tournament. Then the twist would be that some strong Marine or bounty hunter has disguised himself and entered, but that doesn't make sense since he is entitled to catch pirates whenever he wants, while a typical villain often enters the tournament to kill the hero in a legal fighting competition because doing it outside a competition would get him trouble with the law before he wishes.
So an international One Piece tournament probably wouldn't take place. It would have to be a local one with the warriors of the island that the Straw Hats happen to be on (and then the Straw Hats themselves of course). This way it could be the traditional version with good guys, Straw Hats and a dangerous villain. But then again, it feels a waste of time since it takes a lot of time to get through a such arc, and there will probably be an unnecessary amount of focus on participants who will likely never be seen or at least not play a big role again since they'll be staying put on their island.
And why would the Straw Hats want to participate? Unless the Davy Back Fight start is used again when Luffy agrees to enter the tournament because he wants to revenge his new friend. Otherwise, Luffy isn't the type who fights for the sake of fighting. The tournament should probably include some fun games, not just plain fighting, for him to want to participate. Really, the only Straw Hat who would be interested in that sort of thing, is Zoro. -
I don't think that a tournament arc would suit one piece, however it would work if luffy enters a tournament as part of an arc rather than the focus
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Enies Lobby was a tournament arc, and thats good enough for me
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Well, the world of One Piece makes it harder to do a good tournament arc than most other shonen series, I think. The primary structure of the series is already like one big tournament where (to compare with Dragon Ball) East Blue is the qualifying rounds, Grand Line is the quarter finals, New World is the semi finals, and Raftel is THE finals. Pirates are criminals who fight and kill each other left and right and actively seek battles with each other. They're not gonna wait for a tournament to appear for them to defeat each other. A shonen tournament is typically a fair competition where most of the participants are the heroes and other good guys (at least people who do not directly oppose the law yet), with one or a few villains sneaking in with some scheme. In One Piece, well… Wouldn't exactly be the case if it was a pirate tournament. Then the twist would be that some strong Marine or bounty hunter has disguised himself and entered, but that doesn't make sense since he is entitled to catch pirates whenever he wants, while a typical villain often enters the tournament to kill the hero in a legal fighting competition because doing it outside a competition would get him trouble with the law before he wishes.
So an international One Piece tournament probably wouldn't take place. It would have to be a local one with the warriors of the island that the Straw Hats happen to be on (and then the Straw Hats themselves of course). This way it could be the traditional version with good guys, Straw Hats and a dangerous villain. But then again, it feels a waste of time since it takes a lot of time to get through a such arc, and there will probably be an unnecessary amount of focus on participants who will likely never be seen or at least not play a big role again since they'll be staying put on their island.
And why would the Straw Hats want to participate? Unless the Davy Back Fight start is used again when Luffy agrees to enter the tournament because he wants to revenge his new friend. Otherwise, Luffy isn't the type who fights for the sake of fighting. The tournament should probably include some fun games, not just plain fighting, for him to want to participate. Really, the only Straw Hat who would be interested in that sort of thing, is Zoro.Pretty much this ^
I don't see it suiting the mangaka and it is a bit cliche these days. Since in theory they should all be just trying to kill eachother.
Having said that, these days its almost compulsory so I definitely wouldn't rule out the SHs getting captured and having to compete with other crews to win survival or smth BTOOOOM! style.
They are usually awesome arcs, but it'd have to be very well thought out by Oda, and if he did do it, prob more likely as anime filler fer sure.
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free for all!!! and Law will create ROOM so everyone is in his control :ninja:
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free for all!!! and Law will create ROOM so everyone is in his control :ninja:
FFA? Luffy vs Chopper and or Nami. Not much of a fight. Gotta be in crews to be viable.
More likely choose your best three or smth
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@Stereo:
FFA? Luffy vs Chopper and or Nami. Not much of a fight. Gotta be in crews to be viable.
More likely choose your best three or smth
I mean is battle royal, something like Enel created at Skypiea arc when the protagonist vs antagonist team hunting their rival freely.
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I mean is battle royal, something like Enel created at Skypiea arc when the protagonist vs antagonist team hunting their rival freely.
But if we already had one with Enel…. why do you want a repeat of what we already had?
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But if we already had one with Enel…. why do you want a repeat of what we already had?
I don't particularly, but if it was a legit tournament over smth like Aces DF, I could see it working.
They'd need a good reason to compete. If they are well written then they are always awesome but as I said first post, it doesn't fit too well atm, the logical time to do it would've been before the FI arc.
Since DonFla mentioned the Colleiseum (bastardised spelling) I think its a legit chance.
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But if we already had one with Enel…. why do you want a repeat of what we already had?
Because it is very cool in my opinion XD we have SH crews + Law vs DD and his crews (might be more cool if some brokers came join the fight LOL). But that just my personal opinion, maybe for some people isn't cool as I imagine it :P. 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 is ordinary fight style, you've seen alot before and pretty sure will have alot more in the future, so why not give something different inbetween the (many) single fights? XD
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The only way i could see this happening is if Luffy actually wants the Mera Mera no mi and willingly enters the coliseum after some DD taunts. Any other scenario i just see the crew destroying the coliseum and getting out.
The fact DD wants to brutally murder them all himself doesn't help either, i don't see why he'd push them into a tournament where he's unlikely to fight, and is technically no longer king so shouldn't be able to organize such a tournament in the first place.
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As long as Oda can keep the tournament interesting, with good fights and a good plot with it, why not?
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Money rules the world, you gotta send Urouge a nice gift package
What did you send :getlost:
@keizerking:
Didn't know an activation was needed for new members,since my posts go through directly without being subjected to moderator approval.
About the tournament it might be interesting but not if it's to fights only DD's subordinates or some no-names.It would be good if there were some famous pirates involved too.
Just start messing around and you'll become an active member.
@Formation:
Yes there should be a tournament Arc in Wano. The Samurai would laugh at Zoro because how weak he is compared to them. He would get fodderized by the experienced Samurai then get's a new Sensei trains with him and get's stronger.
Get a new master I don't think so but Zoro we'll learn some stuff from those guys.
@Formation:
Mihawk isn't stronger than the strongest Samurai living in Wano. He would never beat him in a 1vs1 fight. They have nothing to prove and they don't need a mere title to prove how strong they are. Mihawk is scared of going to Wano because he would lose and get embarrassed by old island. Zoro has no experience and reputation he would get killed if any Samurai there are evil or don't like him because he's a foreigner. There's nothing wrong with getting trained by somebody who's more experienced with the katana and can get him stronger.
Firstable how do you know that Hawkeye hasn't been in Wano, we know that he likes to fight strong people so, that statement is invalid, Wano have Mihawk level swordsman that's for sure and Zoro already trained with somebody who is way more experienced than him in every way possible.
@Formation:
Don't know where you are getting that info from. All Kinemon said is that he was going to Zou and Kanjuroo got captured and the 3rd Samurai is nowhere to be seen. I don't know why you think that is funny. Mihawk would never defeat Ryuma in his prime who is considered legendary in Wano.
Again how do you know that Mihawk would never defeat Ryuma in his prime? we only know that Ryuma is a legendary samurai from Wano but we don't know why he is legendary, yeah he is strong but you have to be more than that in order to become a legend
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@Formation:
Mihawk isn't stronger than the strongest Samurai living in Wano. He would never beat him in a 1vs1 fight. They have nothing to prove and they don't need a mere title to prove how strong they are. Mihawk is scared of going to Wano because he would lose and get embarrassed by old island. Zoro has no experience and reputation he would get killed if any Samurai there are evil or don't like him because he's a foreigner. There's nothing wrong with getting trained by somebody who's more experienced with the katana and can get him stronger.
No evidence = Bullshit.
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I liked the tournament arc like they did in Naruto, NOT Naruto Shippuden. If its similar, i do not mind. Else, No.
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I'm not entirely impressed with Mihawk's swordsmanship right now.
I mean… All he seems to do is shoot lasers out of his sword.
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No evidence = Bullshit.
pretty much this. His title is strongest swordsman in the world, regardless if Wano is secluded or not, I'd bet he's had samurai after him as well, trying to take away his title, obviously in vain.
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@The:
I'm not entirely impressed with Mihawk's swordsmanship right now.
I mean… All he seems to do is shoot lasers out of his sword.
but the thing is Oda hasn't show any good long fights, Zoro mehh, Vista got interrupted, the only thing we have seen are air slashes, nothing more
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@The:
I'm not entirely impressed with Mihawk's swordsmanship right now.
I mean… All he seems to do is shoot lasers out of his sword.
And he cut an iceberg in half… without even touching it.
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My vote is "yes" but not because of any of the two reasons stated in the poll.
i dont give a crap about the other shonens, why even bother mentioning them? i just think having one in one piece soon would be epic.
but if it doesnt happen id be perfectly fine with it because knowing Oda he'll do other awesome stuff instead.but as i said my vote goes to yes, but not for either of the two reasons you stated in the poll.
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@The:
Law too
What means that?
Ope Ope no Mi .
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Ope Ope no Mi .
Don't even bother arguing with these Law wankers. They'll get their reality check when Law gets assraped and put down by Doflamingo
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Don't even bother arguing with these Law wankers. They'll get their reality check when Law gets assraped and put down by Doflamingo
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I like how some are quick to forget that back in East Blue, Mihawk stopped Zoro's Oni-Giri…..with a pocket knife.
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Ope Ope no Mi .
He MODIFY it after he CUT IT with his nodachi.
The room is for operation's that he use the nodachi to cut some thigs and because of his powers there alive (humans) and so he modify them
Edit: and im not Zachri
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@The:
He MODIFY it after he CUT IT with his nodachi.
The room is for operation's that he use the nodachi to cut some thigs and because of his powers there alive (humans) and so he modify them
Edit: and im not Zachri
kids say the darndest things..
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Get a new master I don't think so but Zoro we'll learn some stuff from those guys. Firstable how do you know that Hawkeye hasn't been in Wano, we know that he likes to fight strong people so, that statement is invalid, Wano have Mihawk level swordsman that's for sure and Zoro already trained with somebody who is way more experienced than him in every way possible. Again how do you know that Mihawk would never defeat Ryuma in his prime? we only know that Ryuma is a legendary samurai from Wano but we don't know why he is legendary, yeah he is strong but you have to be more than that in order to become a legend
Zoro will get a new Sensei it's already been foreshadowed with Zoro wanting to jock Kinemons fire style. Same thing will happen when he gets exposed to different sword styles he wants to learn a Samurai technique that's been passed on. Until it says Mihawk has gone to Wano in the manga he has gone there but that never happened so he's never been there. Ryuma would trash Mihawk because he is stronger. @King:
No evidence = Bullshit.
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@Formation:
Zoro will get a new Sensei it's already been foreshadowed with Zoro wanting to jock Kinemons fire style. Same thing will happen when he gets exposed to different sword styles he wants to learn a Samurai technique that's been passed on. Until it says Mihawk has gone to Wano in the manga he has gone there but that never happened so he's never been there. Ryuma would trash Mihawk because he is stronger.
Your logic is astounding :getlost:..
You seem to have the greatest understanding of all things concerning Wano and Swordsmen in general, and from what I've seen of your posts it's impossible to debate such things with you. I don't understand why anyone bothers.
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@Formation:
Zoro will get a new Sensei it's already been foreshadowed with Zoro wanting to jock Kinemons fire style. Same thing will happen when he gets exposed to different sword styles he wants to learn a Samurai technique that's been passed on. Until it says Mihawk has gone to Wano in the manga he has gone there but that never happened so he's never been there. Ryuma would trash Mihawk because he is stronger.
LMAO. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Your whole argument is based on speculation that doesn't have any evidence or even hints.
Mihawk is stated to be the "World's Greatest Swordsman". This was stated multiple times in the manga and so far nothing has happened to prove it wrong, so if you try to question it based on fanfiction, then it's definitely bullshit.
That gif is way more appropriate for your own post.