Diable Jamble is sort of pointless though. I think Sanji's fighting style is by far my favorite.
I still enjoy watching him fight Gin or pawning Kurobi. Jamble is him using friction to heat up his leg.
Why is Heat going to make much difference in strength? He is a chef, he should be able to dip his leg in alcohol and flambe it. Hahaha
If he is in water, how is he getting friction and heat?
Chapter 605: "The Kraken and the Pirates"
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A person swimming underwater. Completely unheard of.
Do that at a depth of 7000 meters and then tell me how fun it was, please =)
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Diable Jamble is sort of pointless though. I think Sanji's fighting style is by far my favorite.
I still enjoy watching him fight Gin or pawning Kurobi. Jamble is him using friction to heat up his leg.
Why is Heat going to make much difference in strength? He is a chef, he should be able to dip his leg in alcohol and flambe it. Hahaha
If he is in water, how is he getting friction and heat?It is a manga and I don't care but Urouge gave a good explanation in the spoiler thread.
Just please Oda… Someday give me KiZaru vs Sanji. That would be a flashy fight
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Do that at a depth of 7000 meters and then tell me how fun it was, please =)
He was not at the depth of 7000 meters when he kicked the Kraken, read it again!
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Im hoping for Sanji vs any of the Admirals…
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yay,newest chapter! :D
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Maybe someone noticed it yet…but Luffy used Gear 3rd and had no aftereffect!!
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Sanji vs Kizaru
Zoro vs Kuma
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Why does the skeleton on the last page have vampire theets!!??
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Hmm, good observation. My take on the gear three shrinkage was that luffy overinflated himself with gear three and went beyond the limits of his elastic control of his body. Elasticity is the force returning a stretched or stressed object to its original form and therefore the shrinkage represented a limit on luffy's control over his DF. It's possible his training over two years has increased his gomu gomu abilities to the point that he can now stretch enough to perform gear three without exceeding his body's elastic potential and thus have difficulty regaining his standard form.
I could also imagine that underwater the air doesn
t come out that abrupt like on land. So the air comes out more controlled from his bones and by that Luffy is able to hold that much air into his bones that he no longer has to shrink. When the water isn
t responsible for that, maybe the CoA does the trick and also like you said the training sure could have lead to the fact that he has no longer that weakness of shriking after using Gear3.Oh, I'm a little disappointed that Luffy has to announce "color or armament" when using this attack. His attacks are getting too wordy, plus "color of armaments" doesn't sound that good as an attack name! Especially when I doubt Luffy will need to do that with his other two haki techniques. Hopefully this gets refined in the future.
Actually i liked that using CoA is now so visible on him for the reader by turning his bodyparts black.
Like mentioned before we may can hope that in the future its just "elephant gun" and that he doesn
t need to announce every time that he uses HAki.
But for the first time it`s sure necessary to tell us readers whats going on.Frankly I've never liked Diable Jamble as an attack, but all this discussion about it is retarded…
If his foot is fire then why isn't he getting burnt?! Oh wait, how is his foot on fire? Oh wait, he's under water! Oh wait, why is his foot on fire?! *Shakes head -_-'
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s just an attack which heads up his leg to get more strenght. It
s not on fire or something like that, but yeah it`s not worth discussing such an "not that good" technique.I'll consider myself warned.
(though it's unlikely to stop me from posting those throbbing theories).
We`re unreformable and proud of it.:happy:
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Am I the only one who noticed the blobfish?
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Am I the only one who noticed the blobfish?
Sure, i mailed it Oda.
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Do that at a depth of 7000 meters and then tell me how fun it was, please =)
Set your leg alight and kick people and then tell me how fun it was, please =)
He wasn't at 7000 metres anyway, but that's not the point. It's a fucking manga.
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"They're gonna make a former boss character their ally and head for Fishman Island"
I don't know if he is an ally yet, but Caribou fits this to a scary degree.
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"They're gonna make a former boss character their ally and head for Fishman Island"
I don't know if he is an ally yet, but Caribou fits this to a scary degree.
Yeah the part head for Fishman Island never existed.
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"They're gonna make a former boss character their ally and head for Fishman Island"
I don't know if he is an ally yet, but Caribou fits this to a scary degree.
Nope, it's more like
"They're gonna make a former boss character their ally AND THEN head for Fishman Island"
It implies that the boss character will be their ally BEFORE they head for FI, and as we know, luffy partnered up with Crocodile in the war. Nowhere does it state that the boss character will come with them or be a partner for a prolonged time.
Please stop digging up stupid shit like this.
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That part of the quote never existed. Crocodile in Impel down seemed to fit the description. He was THE boss.
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First post since the off time! NIPPLE TIME!
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"They're gonna make a former boss character their ally and head for Fishman Island"
I don't know if he is an ally yet, but Caribou fits this to a scary degree.
Luffy did make a former boss character his ally.
Crocodile.Seriously, that should be in the first post of the next nakamate thread because it's really getting annoying.
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Blue Walk reminds me of Geppou
Anyone realise Sanji has Diable Jambe on his right leg while moving towards the Kraken but kicks it with his left?LOL he did the same thing with Oars as well in thriller bark when sanji protected robin.
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Anyone else notice how Luffy didn't shrink after he used gear third?
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Diable Jamble is sort of pointless though. I think Sanji's fighting style is by far my favorite.
I still enjoy watching him fight Gin or pawning Kurobi. Jamble is him using friction to heat up his leg.
Why is Heat going to make much difference in strength? He is a chef, he should be able to dip his leg in alcohol and flambe it. Hahaha
If he is in water, how is he getting friction and heat?Because it adds to the damage.
Grill shot was pretty cool though. Reminds me of when the mexican guy from felch punched that one guy and on the wall behind him the devil appeared. If bleach didn't make me puke I would give a link.
So basically Sanji kicked the kraken in one place and it formed a grill mark about the size of a large yacht.
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Anyone else notice how Luffy didn't shrink after he used gear third?
Lol, yeah, it's actually been mentioned quite a couple times earlier…'tis some really intriguing stuff. Still, it's possible that it might have happened "off-screen" and we didn't see it, but then again, you never know; Luffy might have actually found a way to remove such a drawback from that immensely powerful power-up..
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in my point of view, diable jambe doesn't INCREASE the power, but rather burns the person who receives the kick. the kick damage still applies, but its kinda like kicking a guy in the stomach with molten lava; it'll hurt a lot, and afterwards they'll have a huge burn. so if diable jambe hits the opponent multiple times, i can see it becoming extremely effective
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in my point of view, diable jambe doesn't INCREASE the power, but rather burns the person who receives the kick. the kick damage still applies, but its kinda like kicking a guy in the stomach with molten lava; it'll hurt a lot, and afterwards they'll have a huge burn. so if diable jambe hits the opponent multiple times, i can see it becoming extremely effective
That's basically how it works. Intense heat + overwhelming speed = crazy damage. Imagine being burned by a huge cigar about 12 inches wide right in the stomach, now imagine it as a steel cigar coming at you about 70 miles an hour. Not only are you suffering from second degree burns but you ribs are burning hot and broken from the impact.
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That's basically how it works. Intense heat + overwhelming speed = crazy damage. Imagine being burned by a huge cigar about 12 inches wide right in the stomach, now imagine it as a steel cigar coming at you about 70 miles an hour. Not only are you suffering from second degree burns but you ribs are burning hot and broken from the impact.
Just considering that his leg appears to be either white or red hot (I don't recall seeing it colored in the manga) then unless Sanji just incredibly dislikes someone he'd only ever have to use that on someone that either has some way to reduce the damage or (as in this case) is just so big he needs the extra damage.
Consider something white hot is several times hotter than the temperature to boil water, and it'll hurt.
Which actually raises another point, apparently Sanji ran SO fast that his burning leg of at least several hundred degrees F didn't get a chance to heat up the water.
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Comic book science works kinda like this: you take a simple idea, let's say friction creates heat, and then you take that principle and do pretty much whatever you want with it ignoring all the actual limitations it has. As long as its founded in something concrete anything after that is just gravy.
The only thing that bugs me is Luffy's gear three without enough air thing. Now I'm for the willing suspension of disbelief as the next person but this just goes a bit too far even for me.
With the Sanji thing I don't know enough to be able to comment on it, which definitely helps me accept it easily, but even I know that you can't use one deep breath to blow something up to many times your own size. I've been trying to ignore it but it just keeps on bugging me.
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Comic book science works kinda like this: you take a simple idea, let's say friction creates heat, and then you take that principle and do pretty much whatever you want with it ignoring all the actual limitations it has. As long as its founded in something concrete anything after that is just gravy.
Dude, you can't just ignore real world science, when reading a story, seriously. GAWD.
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Comic book science works kinda like this: you take a simple idea, let's say friction creates heat, and then you take that principle and do pretty much whatever you want with it ignoring all the actual limitations it has. As long as its founded in something concrete anything after that is just gravy.
The only thing that bugs me is Luffy's gear three without enough air thing. Now I'm for the willing suspension of disbelief as the next person but this just goes a bit too far even for me.
With the Sanji thing I don't know enough to be able to comment on it, which definitely helps me accept it easily, but even I know that you can't use one deep breath to blow something up to many times your own size. I've been trying to ignore it but it just keeps on bugging me.
7000 meters under the sea air will expand many times its own volume. During navy SEAL training trainees exit a submarine at 200 feet below and must constantly exhale until they break surface or else their lungs will burst.
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Dude, you can't just ignore real world science, when reading a story, seriously. GAWD.
I wasn't saying I do, I was saying the writer do.
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Blue Walk reminds me of Geppou
Anyone realise Sanji has Diable Jambe on his right leg while moving towards the Kraken but kicks it with his left?It's all perspective, it could look like his right leg if he's kicking from behind and not out to the side. Like this kick ->>
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And if you look at the first panel on this page, you can see it is definitely like that.
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@Speed:
7000 meters under the sea air will expand many times its own volume. During navy SEAL training trainees exit a submarine at 200 feet below and must constantly exhale until they break surface or else their lungs will burst.
It's the exact opposite ! Air is compressed a high pressure and expands when you go back to the surface.
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It's the exact opposite ! Air is compressed a high pressure and expands when you go back to the surface.
that makes sense, perhaps since the fight took place at -7000m luffys gear 3 shot up and expanded more than if he was on dry land. Franky had some interesting things to say about the coating and not being able to expel air from the bubble or the bubble will shrink, then luffy expels the largest gear 3 we have ever seen.
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I know it's been said a million times but I'll say it again.
7000 meters is where there at now. the fight happened before they reached that depth.
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in my point of view, diable jambe doesn't INCREASE the power, but rather burns the person who receives the kick.
That should be it, but from what we've seen in the story it does actually increase the power of the kick. I'm remembering the time he kicked the PX-1 in shabondy.
@Louis:Comic book science works kinda like this: you take a simple idea, let's say friction creates heat, and then you take that principle and do pretty much whatever you want with it ignoring all the actual limitations it has. As long as its founded in something concrete anything after that is just gravy.
The only thing that bugs me is Luffy's gear three without enough air thing. Now I'm for the willing suspension of disbelief as the next person but this just goes a bit too far even for me.
Haha I did'nt even think of that while reading…how did he get all the air? :p
As you said though it's comic book science, hell he should'nt be able to use gear third in the first place...transfer bones to one part of your body? XDQuestion: what does 'colour of armaments' do apart from hitting logias?
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Dude, you can't just ignore real world science, when reading a story, seriously. GAWD.
theres no guarantee that the same science exists in the OP world ;) the entire place is fiction. anything can happen.
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The only thing that bugs me is Luffy's gear three without enough air thing. Now I'm for the willing suspension of disbelief as the next person but this just goes a bit too far even for me.
Yeah, it's a bit much to take. We do know that Luffy can fit that much air in his lungs, though, and keep it compressed, as he has to every time he uses gear 3. I suppose it's reasonable that he could have just done his inhaling before he ever even got in the bubble. I'm still hoping for a cooler explanation, though (fill it with water instead! :ninja:).
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I wasn't saying I do, I was saying the writer do.
theres no guarantee that the same science exists in the OP world ;) the entire place is fiction. anything can happen.
Holy shit, people really can't take a joke, when I clearly made it obvious that it was sarcasm.
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He was not at the depth of 7000 meters when he kicked the Kraken, read it again!
Ahem… Ooops?
Set your leg alight and kick people and then tell me how fun it was, please =)
He wasn't at 7000 metres anyway, but that's not the point. It's a fucking manga.
I know, I know. It should´ve been just a smartass comment, and I have failed anyway. :D
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Holy shit, people really can't take a joke, when I clearly made it obvious that it was sarcasm.
Ah, yes, sarcasm, Indeed, my bad, because it was so verrrry clear.
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Just chiming in to say that mangastream has mistranslated rufy's attack name, which is indeed
Color of Armaments : Vulcanization
The name of the attack is 硬化 which could also mean hardening, but the color luffy becomes makes it very clear that it is indeed vulcanization.
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Do you watch one piece in germany Kiavik or why is luffy rufy?
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Do you watch one piece in germany Kiavik or why is luffy rufy?
I'm italian and that's an early mistranslation we still havn't corrected.
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So the elephunt gun is actually the long waited vulcanizated version we thought about a long time ago.
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wow…
thanks kiavik, that's pretty huge news.
Vulcanization means that lufffy attacks get upgraded from rubber bands to rubber bullets. That's a giant power up.
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It's just supposed to make rubber more elastical, no?
No, it make rubber more elastical, harder and give it more resistance to very cold and very hot temperatures.
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Well, this disproves my earlier statement:
You would need sulfur for vulcanization and after that rubber would be permanently hard, so I don't think that we're going to see that.
Maybe I was just thinking too scientifically. This is a manga, after all.
I was just reading about vulcanization on Wikipedia, and I noticed that a man named Thomas Hancock patented the method. I wonder if that's the origin of Hancock's name? Oda could have run into the name while doing his research. But one thing that I also noticed was that the Japanese article for vulcanization is called 加硫, not 硬化. Can someone who can speak Japanese clear this?
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@Monkey:
No, it make rubber more elastical, harder and give it more resistance to very cold and very hot temperatures.
It seems that there are different techniques of vulcanization…