People always bitch after a break and this is multiplied by all the timeskip drama
Chapter 596: "Spectrum" Discussion
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damn i was expecting another chapter next week showing zoro
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Woah woah woah woah….slow down there cowboy. Don't blow things way out of proportion and make it seem like I am bashing anyone.
First I would like to request you READ the ENTIRE post before jumping to such conclusions. Notice the "I think" part in front of that sentence my friend.
I was going to dissect this and counter your claims but it is obvious you are not understanding where I am coming from, probably because your young….no offense at all....and you'll probably take offense to that....hence proving you are....but anyway....im not going to waste my time defending a claim I did not make.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, hence to the "To each their own" part.
So does not liking the chapter strip you of being a True OP fan in my eyes? Nope.
Clear enough?
What? Nothing in that entire post answered my question so really nothing became clear in the least remote way. You said, "I think any True One Piece fan would appreciate this chapter to the fullest". That's your own opinion. Cool, that's all fine and dandy. Now I just want to know what you define as a "true One Piece fan". Simple as that really. All of that points to above post came out of left field and was unnecessary.
Perhaps you should read my post again. I wasn't assuming you were "bashing" anyone. I was assuming you were writing people off "in your opinion" as Non-True One Piece fans just because they didn't truly enjoy or understand the chapter. That's not bashing. That's just you thinking people aren't fully appreciating One Piece. I completely understand differentiating opinions and "to each his own" yada yada yada. I emphasized this in my post actually. The main point of my post was to get your answer on what you would define as "a TRUE One Piece fan" but it seems that part must have been skimmed over or it's a waste of your precious time to answer this question. Lol, or perhaps I'm to young to understand.
I should add maturity and understanding aren't exactly correlated with age but with experience.
The edit is "understanding"
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damn i was expecting another chapter next week showing zoro
Huh? There will be a chapter next week… Or there should be. And it's only logical to assume that Zoro will be in it.
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Huh? There will be a chapter next week… Or there should be. And it's only logical to assume that Zoro will be in it.
This is my fault. I did'nt read the post correctly and confused him.
Subzero the last chapter, 2 weeks ago was a double issue, that's why there was no chapter last week. This is a normal edition so there will be one next week… and hopefully Zoro:happy: -
Assumptions Are Dangerous
Now I just want to know what you define as a "true One Piece fan".
Do we seriously need to start a discussion on my perception of a True One Piece fan? Is it really necessary? Tell ya what, Ill answer that question on my next Gorousei Summit Episode.
All of that points to above post came out of left field and was unnecessary.
You placed the idea of "writing people off" in a post that simply explained the way I felt about this chapter and my summary of it's depth. Imagine that first sentence wasn't there, now what? Maybe it's just me, but your reply came off like I was trying to condescend down to those who didn't like this chapter or appreciated it the way I did…and that's far from the case. If it was a misunderstanding and if you felt I was defensive for no reason, then I will be the first to apologize.
I was assuming you were writing people off "in your opinion" as Non-True One Piece fans just because they didn't truly enjoy or understand the chapter.
"Points at heading of this post*
That's just you thinking people aren't fully appreciating One Piece. I completely understand differentiating opinions and "to each his own" yada yada yada.
I didn't know that because you didn't like THIS chapter, you were someone who only likes the fighting scene in One Piece.
Now I know why I was so moved by Hiriluk. It's because he exploded at the end. Thanks guys.
Please…your reminding me of my wife, who loves to use "so in other words your saying this and this and that"...No. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. If I feel this forum is full of people who are not true One Piece fans then I will outright say it....no reading between the lines or anything like that...I don't have hair on my tongue (or fingertips).
The main point of my post was to get your answer on what you would define as "a TRUE One Piece fan" but it seems that part must have been skimmed over or it's a waste of your precious time to answer this question. Lol, or perhaps I'm to young to understand.
Yeah I knew what you were asking, and I ignored it on purpose….not that I have no respect for your valid question but I already knew where that discussion would end up and Im not in the mood for that.
I should add maturity levels aren't exactly correlated with age but with experience.
I said nothing about maturity. More of comprehension and the ability to grasp the gems and the coals, that mostly comes with age and experience. Younger people, whom I respect oh so dearly believe it or not, sometimes have a hard time grasping it…and I don't mean this in any negative way...just being real and speaking truth. I was once like that and I admit it. Anyway, ill make sure to answer your question, if your still interested in the answer that is, in my next episode.
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Assumptions Are Dangerous
Do we seriously need to start a discussion on my perception of a True One Piece fan? Is it really necessary? Tell ya what, Ill answer that question on my next Gorousei Summit Episode.
No, not at all. If it's to much of a bother all you had to say was, "Nah, I'd rather not" or maybe even, "It's to complicated". Lol, and I would have said "ok" and moved on. I'll await your answer though.
You placed the idea of "writing people off" in a post that simply explained the way I felt about this chapter and my summary of it's depth. Imagine that first sentence wasn't there, now what?
I understand, but imagine how someone who didn't enjoy the chapter would feel after reading "I think True One Piece fans etc…" Your post didn't come off as offensive to me but reading that first sentence does sound like you're writing off fans who may not have enjoyed the chapter as much. I'm going to say I misinterpreted.
I say what I mean and I mean what I say. If I feel this forum is full of people who are not true One Piece fans then I will outright say it….no reading between the lines or anything like that...I don't have hair on my tongue (or fingertips).
Lol, yes I can agree with this and I respect your bluntness.
Yeah I knew what you were asking, and I ignored it on purpose….not that I have no respect for your valid question but I already knew where that discussion would end up and Im not in the mood for that.
points to your title You say you "knew" but truthfully you assumed this topic would veer off on some crazy course you didn't feel like going down. I'm going to tell you now my question was strictly of curiosity and not laced with any intentions to debate or for further discussion. Of course you could not have known this and that's understandable.
I said nothing about maturity. More of comprehension and the ability to grasp the gems and the coals, that mostly comes with age and experience. Younger people, whom I respect oh so dearly believe it or not, sometimes have a hard time grasping it…and I don't mean this in any negative way...just being real and speaking truth. I was once like that and I admit it. Anyway, ill make sure to answer your question, if your still interested in the answer that is, in my next episode.
It's fair to let you know I edited my comment earlier but of course you wouldn't be privy to this as you were writing out your comment. In the end yes, I'm still interested and where can I find this episode?
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Please…your reminding me of my wife, who loves to use "so in other words your saying this and this and that"...No. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. If I feel this forum is full of people who are not true One Piece fans then I will outright say it....no reading between the lines or anything like that...I don't have hair on my tongue (or fingertips).
Here is what you said:
Then again…I guess it is also up to the personality of the reader. There are some who appreciate a story for all its worth; characters, emotions, plot, story, etc. and **there are those who enjoy just the action and suspense…**to each his own I guess…..
That means they are two types of One Piece reader. Those who appreciate the whole story (characters, plot…) and those who select things among what the story has to offer.
I have one question to ask you: Do you think people, that don't like this chapter, don't appreciate the story for all its worth?
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This Chapter was great; a little pick-me-up after school(I started school yesterday…) at first I thought that Sabo was Kaku and I was like ''why is Kaku wearing different clothes!?'' but then I realized that it was Sabo!
I think that Sabo will appear later in the series(hopefully).
Bone to be wild.....epic XD
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Here is what you said:
That means they are two types of One Piece reader. Those who appreciate the whole story (characters, plot…) and those who select things among what the story has to offer.
I have one question to ask you: Do you think people, that don't like this chapter, don't appreciate the story for all its worth?
Yep, this is probably the debate he (and admittedly I) didn't feel like getting into. What makes a true One Piece fan. Enjoying every chapter? Enjoying the "pivotal" chapters chalked up with 'Character Development' and 'Plot'? Well, which chapter is "pivotal" could be left up for the interpretation of different readers. And what makes a "True One Piece fan" also goes under the same treatment of different interpretations. I never heard of one definitive answer though which is why I'm curious.
Edit: Flandrian gave me a nice and respectable answer though.
@flandrian15:just liking one piece makes you a true one piece fan. Not just a chapter but the overall series.
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I have one question to ask you: Do you think people, that don't like this chapter, don't appreciate the story for all its worth?
Naw.
Why would they think that!?
Blasphemy!
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People are STILL arguing about if this is a good chapter or not ? lol….........
Loads of character development
Based on the chapter before it pretty predictable by OP standards.
ABSOLUTELY Necessary-If you don't like it for being predictable the you are mis guided.
-If you don't like it for its formating. Then you are ignorant to literary strecturing to emphsis a mood. <-- Related Point. Oda called the chapter SPECTRUM. So he conciously knew what he was doing with it.
-If you don't like it good go sit down and read a chapter of a different series for now. But don't try to convince the people who value character development that it's a shit chapter. It's not going to work.
Despite the predictable approach there was still plenty that happened internally inside of the characters. Big steps at that.
So just stop the fighting cause neither side is going to win.
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-If you don't like it good go sit down and read a chapter of a different series for now. But don't try to convince the people who value character development that it's a shit chapter. It's not going to work.
What are you talking about? People who didn't like this chapter never tried to convince anyone unlike some people who like it and who only denigrated those who didn't like it. FireFistLuffy is one of them.
Loads of character development
IMO, not that much, there were lots of things we already knew like Nami being essential for the crew.
ABSOLUTELY Necessary
which doesn't mean ABSOLUTELY good.
-If you don't like it for its formating. Then you are ignorant to literary strecturing to emphsis a mood. <– Related Point. Oda called the chapter SPECTRUM. So he conciously knew what he was doing with it.
I am glad he knew what he was doing but I am not really satisfied with this repetitive pattern.
So just stop the fighting cause neither side is going to win.
I agree with this.
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I'm going to tote the middle line and say this was an okay chapter. It certainly wasn't exceptional, but it did provide some necessary and humorous exposition as well as some interesting character development. Still, next week holds far more potential, and I will await eagerly for 597.
I also updated the first post with podcast information, for the few interested.
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IMO, not that much, there were lots of things we already knew like Nami being essential for the crew.
Actually they've finally understood that luffy ain't an almighty god who can overcome anything. You get directly from usopps part. And frankly it has been that pattern before till they were crushed at shabaody.
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Loads of character development
Based on the chapter before it pretty predictable by OP standards.
ABSOLUTELY NecessaryLots of character development in the form of "I must do this, for this reason", presumably as a prelude to a training timeskip of some sort (dodges tomatoes). If a timeskip does happen, then Oda is showing us the prelude to the "real" development.
I do wonder what you mean by "necessary", though. Couldn't Oda have skipped this last chapter and a half of Strawhat-Iron-Will-Flashing and just shown us, when they show off their new moves, a brief flashback of "when I got Luffy's message, I thought about how I had to get stronger." It doesn't take any longer, could arguably pare down the number of pages required to show each SH, and is broken up (in "current" chapters) for (potentially) better pacing. I'm not saying this approach would have been definitely better, I'm just saying there was at least one alternate way to do it. So, what do you mean by "necessary"?
-If you don't like it for being predictable the you are mis guided.
How exactly is one misguided for not liking it for being predictable? I think we can all agree we pretty much knew what was going to happen this week. Does that make it a bad chapter? No, but it does affect our reception of it. People like surprises, and Oda is great with twists, so getting exactly what we thought we would could be construed as a bit of a disappointment.
-If you don't like it for its formating. Then you are ignorant to literary strecturing to emphsis a mood. <– Related Point. Oda called the chapter SPECTRUM. So he conciously knew what he was doing with it.
I've previously admitted that I wanted clarification on just what you're talking about, but I'm totally lost here. "Spectrum" is a literary device? What? I thought spectrum, being a range of (most often) colours, I thought it was showing us the Strawhats and their varied emotions. This could well be what you meant, but I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here.
I'm not at all trying to jump into this already heated discussion guns blazing. I'm just curious as to what you meant, as you didn't really back up these claims (in this post).
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Guys, where's the OMGWTF plot twists? Where's the action? Where's the beam spam and OVER 9000? Where's all the epicness the war had? Why are we watching the SHs we've missed for so long? Why do we need to see what they're doing and get some comedy and intrigue along the way? Why can't we blindly timeskip with no clue wtf is happening to our main heroes? What's wrong with this chapter? It didn't blow me away! I don't like it because it wasn't AWESOME.
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I'm late, but I just realized there's no crossed out S on Ace's tattoo, and now the cover page is cute, hawt, AND sad.
le cry
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Guys, where's the OMGWTF plot twists? Where's the action? Where's the beam spam and OVER 9000? Where's all the epicness the war had? Why are we watching the SHs we've missed for so long? Why do we need to see what they're doing and get some comedy and intrigue along the way? Why can't we blindly timeskip with no clue wtf is happening to our main heroes? What's wrong with this chapter? It didn't blow me away! I don't like it because it wasn't AWESOME.
A valid point, insofar as not everything can be Super Amazing Epic Times all the time, but that shouldn't stop us from critiquing the chapter, should it? I mean, it is a discussion thread, yeah?
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Seriously? Zoro was the person who begged Kuma to kill him instead of Luffy at Thriller Bark. He doesn't play around like Usopp or Chopper, but I think he probably understands Luffy best in the crew (for example, when he understood and obeyed Luffy's orders to not fight back against Bellamy, while Nami was angry and shocked.)
I understand that Zoro is the bad-ass guy who understands luffy and what he's doing. I know he understands what luffy is doing for the dreams of his crew.
I just dont feel it. Maybe cause zoro is not a very outgoing character. Lately I've just felt a disconnect with zoro in the story.
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I thought it was a great chapter and I loved to see the crew renew their determination and prepare for the future. It's as predictable as ice cream on a Sunday morning but I'll enjoy nonetheless.
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This chapter felt so empty, like it´s missing something.
Dunno, action maybe. The character development was there, but the emotional payoff was poor. As informative as it is, it was lacking. I feel as if this should have been the chapter where it was finally confirmed that Sabo is alive.
However, I'm gonna reserve judgement before I start feeling like Oda lost his touch.
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Nakama Honestly, I think any TRUE One Piece fan would appreciate this chapter to the fullest.
If you have followed each character from the beginning then I cannot see why you wouldn't be touched by each of their revelations. Oda did this beautifully. Everyone had a flashback at a time where Luffy lifted them up and helped them despite any contextual conditions…he gave them hope and showed them love.
Now that reality hit everyone, they are realizing that they cannot continue the way they were or else they will lose everything in an instant. They see the need for growth in order to not only achieve their own dreams but also help Luffy achieve his. I can imagine their feelings in each panel of their revelations...that goosebump feeling...the feeling of an epiphany sprouting...the zeal and motivation mixing in with pure emotion to create and build ones Will....it ties into everything that is One Piece.
I feel so connected to the story and its morals that I can not label this chapter "meh, blah, weak, okay" in any way, shape, or form.
Certainly there isn't any fighting or any faces getting bashed, like we all love to see, but seeing emotions being portrayed this way, especially after following each character for such a long time in this long series (its not like each character was rushed and introduced quickly to fit into a 150 chapter series....we are talking 596 friggin chapters full of character development and story that can do nothing else but pull you in)....
Then again...I guess it is also up to the personality of the reader. There are some who appreciate a story for all its worth; characters, emotions, plot, story, etc. and there are those who enjoy just the action and suspense...to each his own I guess.....
Are you really going to title all your posts like that? Anyway, I have to agree with you to an extent. I really appreciate all the character development Oda puts into One Piece, and there's a special place in my heart for all the characters. I enjoy watching them grow individually and as a crew. Even with this appreciation, this chapter was satisfying but not necessarily exciting (it doesn't offer anything new to readers because of our prior knowledge), which is why I think many people may not enjoy it. I think because readers get to see the One Piece world from an omnipotent view, the revelations of the characters were something we already expected or understood. It's nice to actually see the characters realizing it in this chapter, but it doesn't mean everyone has to love it. I wouldn't be mad about someone calling the chapter boring (to each their own), but stupid is an entirely different thing. Also, the two week break, Oda's teasing, and the fact that we only get 18-20 pages at a time may be factors.
Anyway, not all fans have to love the chapter, and I don't think it's just because there was no action. If anything, it just shows people want more and more One Piece. I think a true One Piece fan is simply someone who follows the manga or anime. Everyone loves it for different reasons.
Still curious why people said this is boring but seeing character development for other characters like SN or marines are called awesome chapter
I think it's because people already understood or expected these revelations, so to see it in manga form is nothing new to them. In contrast, we don't know much about the Supernovas or Marines. But that's just my guess.
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Brook had better be making a comeback sometime. It's really making me sad. I just can't buy his only improvement being "make a new hit song" for Luffy to enjoy. I liked the chapter though, especially Robin's line about how's she was just messing around with Crocodile.
I loved the Supernova part because I didn't want their only role to be "get ass kicked by Kizaru" as I said before. It's interesting seeing non-Strawhats too. but at the same time, it's great to see the crew. it wasn't the most action packed but whatever. go back and re-read enies lobby or something if you really can't stand the lack of ass kicking. it's only a few chapters of showing their development, however predictable it may be, but I can't believe you guys have nothing else to preoccupy yourselves with in the meantime.
As for Sabo, it seems to be a fairly obvious hint he'll come back even if it's a "what if" cover. I mean, Oda did the same thing when he reintroduced Coby and Helmeppo: he obscured their faces and put them on a cover page just like this.
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Brook had better be making a comeback sometime. It's really making me sad. I just can't buy his only improvement being "make a new hit song" for Luffy to enjoy.
We've seen that his music has a strong effect on people - putting them to sleep or making them stronger. I'm guessing that, like the okama's food, his music will be used to make the SHs more powerful. He'll probably also find other ways to utilize it as a weapon. I'm thinking he'll get his captors to let him out of the cage.
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One thing I hope Oda does in the next few chapters is reveal the last 2 yonkou. I mean come on that must be surprised by whitebeards death. Im just curious to see what they look like and there reactions.
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We've seen that his music has a strong effect on people - putting them to sleep or making them stronger. I'm guessing that, like the okama's food, his music will be used to make the SHs more powerful. He'll probably also find other ways to utilize it as a weapon. I'm thinking he'll get his captors to let him out of the cage.
It's true, his music does affect people, it's just that we've seen so little of it in action. I bet it'll continue to be a running gag, but I hope he'll also solve the problem of affecting his crew when he's attacking with music. Changing moods too… it's kind of like doing the opposite of what Perona's abilities are, or similar to Goldenweek's paint.
He'll probably never be as strong as Zoro, but I'd also love a fencing upgrade. that panel with him and Zoro double-teaming on the Flying Fish Riders was seriously sweet.
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One thing I hope Oda does in the next few chapters is reveal the last 2 yonkou. I mean come on that must be surprised by whitebeards death. Im just curious to see what they look like and there reactions.
You mean Kaidou and Big Mom? I really wanna see their character designs..
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I'm only partway through this, and I have just one thing to say…
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Can someone clarify what Brook's "power-up" is supposed to be? I didn't quite get that. The name of island seems to imply he'll improve his swordsmanship, but it doesn't look that's what Oda is planning. Maybe this will be one of those "To Be Continued…" moments...i.e. Oda will pull something from left field.
BTW, Franky is climbing in my personal Nakama favorite rankings
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Can someone clarify what Brook's "power-up" is supposed to be? I didn't quite get that. The name of island seems to imply he'll improve his swordsmanship, but it doesn't look that's what Oda is planning. Maybe this will be one of those "To Be Continued…" moments...i.e. Oda will pull something from left field.
BTW, Franky is climbing in my personal Nakama favorite rankings
Brook's power up probably a his new song since some of his attacks are from his melodies. If I remember right.
Molokidan translated the island name wrong, what's new.
It's actually called Pin-holder island. Isurvivedthebustercall and aiohoge already explain was pertaining to some Japanese comb or something.
Think it's between pages 2-5. The explanation.
Franky should had been at your personal favorites!
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Can someone clarify what Brook's "power-up" is supposed to be? I didn't quite get that. The name of island seems to imply he'll improve his swordsmanship, but it doesn't look that's what Oda is planning. Maybe this will be one of those "To Be Continued…" moments...i.e. Oda will pull something from left field.
In his cover story, we saw him making people stronger by playing music. His part in this chapter ends with him strumming a guitar, much like Usopp is being told about pop greens and Sanji is accepting a challenge. It's played off as a joke ("Bone to be Wild") but his music has been shown to have serious effects in battle.
He's a swordsman too, and I hope we'll eventually see him improve in that field, but we haven't seen anything about his sword in his appearances since SA. Music is also a field very unique to him among the shipmates.
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@Usoppspell
Your signature is a bitch.I regret reading it.
Good one nevertheless.
Thanks for that.
Also well done thread for avoiding the covert trolling.
Unfortunately, even if it is a great chapter it does leave little to be discussed. So it looks like it´s gonna be a slow week in the manga section.
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Lots of character development in the form of "I must do this, for this reason",
Yeah generally that's how showing motives works out. You show motives.
If a timeskip does happen, then Oda is showing us the prelude to the "real" development.
Oda is showing a prelude to what will happened on the skip, we won't see it, that's why this is important.
I do wonder what you mean by "necessary", though. Couldn't Oda have skipped this last chapter and a half of Strawhat-Iron-Will-Flashing and just shown us, when they show off their new moves, a brief flashback of "when I got Luffy's message, I thought about how I had to get stronger."
That's retarded. Why would you go about it fucking backwards just to sate the appetite of impatient dunguses.
You are literally just procrastinating stuff.
UGH CAN WE DO IT LATER.So you'd bitch about it then? Yeah sure.
It doesn't take any longer, could arguably pare down the number of pages required to show each SH,
If you're whining about five or so goddamn pages per that's completely pathetic.
and is broken up (in "current" chapters) for (potentially) better pacing. I'm not saying this approach would have been definitely better, I'm just saying there was at least one alternate way to do it. So, what do you mean by "necessary"?
Too bad none of your alternatives make the slightest structural sense.
How exactly is one misguided for not liking it for being predictable? I think we can all agree we pretty much knew what was going to happen this week. Does that make it a bad chapter? No, but it does affect our reception of it. People like surprises, and Oda is great with twists, so getting exactly what we thought we would could be construed as a bit of a disappointment.
Only if your an idiot who likes surprises just for surprises, and not because they have fitting locations where they fall, and purposes.
"today i got in a car accident, was mugged, and caught my girlfriend cheating on me, cool day!"
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Thanks for that.
Also well done thread for avoiding the covert trolling.
Unfortunately, even if it is a great chapter it does leave little to be discussed. So it looks like it´s gonna be a slow week in the manga section.
Yeah sorry for that.
I understand why it didn't stand out so much since we had like what 50 or so chapters in a row of unpredictable awesomenessesseses.
Just one of those fans that gets irritated by people saying it wasn't that great. Most of the time they just looking at the outer layer.
Yes so for everyone else my bads! Was all fun in games right no harm done.
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Not a bad chapter pretty meh though, the crew gaining resolve to get stronger blah blah blah. Pretty much saw this coming. Guess next week it'll be Zoro, then either focuse on Luffy getting ready for training or Zoro and a time skip OR all of the above. Would make a great place to leave off.
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I wonder if Robin's stay with the Revoutionary Army will have her do some actual revolutionary work (and therefore, Robin will be a Revolutionary member for a time) so when she returns to the crew it'll seem like she's returning kinda like Usopp (Independent) and Nami (Arlong Pirates) did and she'll finally get her numbered chapter.
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I think Robin will certainly learn some important things from Dragon, and hopefully train so she can actually have better solo fight scenes, but her return will not be "kind of like Usopp" or Nami because both those situations were totally different. Nami and Usopp "betrayed" the crew and came back after Luffy kicked someone's ass/accepted Usopp's apology so the only similarity is going to be a joyful reunion.
Not that I'm ruling out "temporary revolutionary" of course, just saying.
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Robin will teach Dragon how to read poneglyphs in exchange for training. you heard it here first xD
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I suddenly want Robin to come back with a bit of a mean streak and to really give someone the bash for slighting Luffy.
Nami to a lesser extent.One more spoiler thread for me and its quits. I'm going back to the days of being surprised by a whole chapter at once instead of summaries and blurry raws.
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Robin will teach Dragon how to read poneglyphs in exchange for training. you heard it here first xD
Wait, doesn't Robin already- oh I get it, that was sarcasm. lol
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Haha!
Love seeing Franky change the history of Baldimore. So funny.
Also Usopp "what a cool name!" gave me some chuckles.
This chapter was nothing more then I expected. Thats a good thing
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I wonder if Robin's stay with the Revoutionary Army will have her do some actual revolutionary work (and therefore, Robin will be a Revolutionary member for a time) so when she returns to the crew it'll seem like she's returning kinda like Usopp (Independent) and Nami (Arlong Pirates) did and she'll finally get her numbered chapter.
did you not read water seven? or the chapter for that matter she says and ill quote this "im a pirate and your revolutionarys" she's letting them know straight up that she is a SH first just because she is a survivor of Ohara doesnt mean she needs to hold this grudge with the WG and join revolutionaries their just a means to get stronger… btw ussop was independent he just thought of merry as a crew mate and couldnt justify abandoning it
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To clarify, the maybe comparison to Usopp and Nami was due to the other affiliations rather than the emotions dealing with their leaving and returning. I was saying if Robin were to work with the Revolutionary Army and not just get stronger than she would have an alternate affiliation with them and then when she leaves them to rejoin the Straw Hat Pirates (hence the comparison), she would get her numbered chapter.
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Numbered chapter? Okay, I get that the strawhats all have specific numbers, but what do you mean by that? Which ones are which?
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I enjoyed how Robin was having a little fun with the Revolutionaries aboard the ship. It'll be funny if Dragon wants to take Robin as his wife, that or hits on her. (I know there is no romance in One Piece, but that'll be a good laugh.)
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it was a good chapter.
It's awesome that everyone is fighting to get stronger for Luffy (especially Usopp since he is obese now).
And franky was awesome, too
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@45°Dunc:
One more spoiler thread for me and its quits. I'm going back to the days of being surprised by a whole chapter at once instead of summaries and blurry raws.
You've been saying that for months though.
Starting to sound like a typical AA patient!notes myself to wave bag of cra…. spoilers in front of Dunc next week
Also well done thread for avoiding the covert trolling.
I kinda figured you were being sarcastic since that statement seemed very out of character for you, but since you didn't exaggerate the sarcasm, it was hard to tell if you're being serious or just trollin'.
Considering what you said is totally believable to come from someone being serious. Unfortunately. -
Numbered chapter? Okay, I get that the strawhats all have specific numbers, but what do you mean by that? Which ones are which?
Chapter 6 - The First (Referring to Zoro)
Chapter 68 - The Fourth (Referring to Sanji)
Chapter 94 - The Second (Referring to Nami)
Chapter 439 - The Third and the Seventh (Referring to Usopp and Franky)
Chapter 489 - The Eighth (Referring to Brook)Chopper and Robin have never had such chapter titles.