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Jay Leno > VG Cats > Jughead Jones > Dog Shit > Elephant Sperm > Dragonball Evolution > Conan O Brian
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Jay Leno > VG Cats > Jughead Jones > Dog Shit > Elephant Sperm > Dragonball Evolution > Conan O Brian
Thank you and goodnight!
@Usopp:
More like 10%. There's a reason why the Tonight Show's ratings collapsed when Conan took over.
And Leno's new show was SUCH a hit…oh wait...
Well its certainly not like one bad show early in the time slot causes bad ratings for all the shows that follow it lo-...oh wait...
Well at the very least we know conans show was canceled due to bad ratings and NOT due to the fact that Leno was losing so much money but cost so much more to keep that it was just easier to fire conan and move ja-...oh wait
Say what you will about Conan but he's the only talk show host that could ever hold my attention. I've never even chuckled at anything leno did. I find him utterly bland, unfunny, and his chin is offensive. Clearly though people like his wholesome, cliche, expected humor....just not enough to watch it at 10pm...
Yes, the old people loved their Leno. People who have taste watch Connan. Pretty much everyone is sided with Connan on this issue. If you actually think Leno was a funnier guy then Connan you probably werent allowed to stay up late enough to actually watch Connan.
The people who can tolerate Leno's brand of humor are not exactly people. More like mindless drones programmed to love the generic crap they're force-fed.
And here i thought Letterman fans were as pretentious as it could get.
@Usopp:
Jay Leno > VG Cats > Jughead Jones > Dog Shit > Elephant Sperm > Dragonball Evolution > Conan O Brian
This coming from the guy who can't spell the name correctly. It is on the thread title if you needed reference.
Way to make yourself valid!
If by his fans you shall know him then Conan certainly wouldnt be a nice guy.
As alarmist as it may seem im actualy slightly worried about how all this hate that seems to be boiling over in his fandom might push some of the eh less mentaly stable people out there who worship him to do something about it ala John Hinckley.
But then again if someone shot Leno the Conan fans would probably be dancing on his grave that very night.:silly:
@EvilGamerX:
This coming from the guy who can't spell the name correctly. It is on the thread title if you needed reference.
Way to make yourself valid!
why are you arguing with pushpoop
the man is an advocate of statutory rape, of couse he's going to hate things of actual quality
And here i thought Letterman fans were as pretentious as it could get.
Silence drone! Activate destruct sequence K7X-Ω.
Cant i just activate the sequence where i watch Leno re-runs.
And would anybody mind explaining what the diffrences betwenn regular rape and the statutory ditto is?
I think I know why wolfwood hates Conan so much. From wiki:
Conan then went as far as to have the flag of Finland shown in the background during a speech and slandered the Finns' "hated" neighbor Sweden with a sign saying "Sweden Sucks!" printed over the flag of Sweden.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/dd/Conan.jpg
Think they got it a bit wrong, the Finns just think we're gay and stuck up.
Now the Danes they are the ones who really hate our guts:ninja:
If you listen to David Letterman's tribute to Johnny Carson, you'll hear and understand that Carson actually, not out-spokenly, but through his actions supported Letterman over Leno, because it was Letterman that was meant to take over the Tonight Show. Anyways… Carson, also told his producer at the time and a few close friends that he would not do any show for NBC after he left Tonight Show, nor would he continue comedy (personal reasons). 1. To not take away any viewership from the hard-working people after he left, and 2. He didn't want to suck at comedy later on in life. He knew there was a limit, and when to stop. Times were changing, and he just felt like he didn't fit after so many years.
Now compare that with Leno. Not many people know this, but my older brothers and parents do, which is Leno sucked hugely in the beginning years of the Tonight Show. But he was given a chance. Conan was never given the chance to do better, or grow with the audience, that didn't accept him at first. That audience being older people primarily.
In Howard Stern's warning to Conan, you'll hear from him that Leno was freakishly crazy about becoming the host of the Tonight Show. Link is here for those who haven't seen it.
I recently found this link myself.To be honest, Conan doesn't have that "Classy - Old - American" act that Carson had. Some people claim Leno had/has it as well, but I think it deals with him just being old and not funny… But Conan has other, more like-able characteristics. Leno on the other hand, you just sense him being overly fake. For a late night type host, Conan's one of the best, next to Letterman and Kimmel. And even though Conan didn't offer the "classy act" that NBC may have wanted him to have during the Tonight Show, he showed his true classy self by leaving, so he wouldn't harm Jimmy Fallon's time-slot, nor the greatest franchise in entertainment, which he respected greatly ever since he was young. As Letterman stated a week or two ago, Leno shouldn't have stuck around.
I don't really hate NBC or Leno. Conan will be fine. I just think Leno's incredibly stupid. No, really! I've read that he could have done great as a Top Gear Host (American Version), since he's crazy about cars. And I agree. I watch the UK version of Top Gear, and I absolutely love it. I think it's one of my favorite shows. But Leno is stupid. He's digging his own grave by being known for basically kicking out Conan. And NBC executives are equally stupid as well. They made a huge risk, which backfired quite badly, and they are continuing their bad decisions by bringing Leno back. As if he's supposed to save ratings... We'll see how well that goes after the Olympics...
Wow, I state a disagreement regarding late night television, and they (poorly) attempt to personally insult me. And then they use a racial card on wolfwood.
You guys DO realize that you're blowing this Tonight Show thing waaaaaay out of proportion. You're taking this far too seriously. It's just late night NBC! Your lives can continue without Conan! Chill out!
@Usopp:
Saaaaaaaaad users on this forum. Sad.
Jay Leno > VG Cats > Jughead Jones > Dog Shit > Elephant Sperm > Dragonball Evolution > Conan O Brian
Thank you and goodnight!
VG Cats? God, I'm glad you're on Jay Leno's side.
And here i thought Letterman fans were as pretentious as it could get.
Gotta agree with you there. People in this topic are actually making me ashamed of liking Conan O'Brien…
@Usopp:
Wow, I state a disagreement regarding late night television, and they (poorly) attempt to personally insult me. And then they use a racial card on wolfwood.
You guys DO realize that you're blowing this Tonight Show thing waaaaaay out of proportion. You're taking this far too seriously. It's just late night NBC! Your lives can continue without Conan! Chill out!
Actually your the one who got butthurt when no one agreed with your opinion on Conan. Then you called the users on this forum sad. And where is this "race card"? If this isnt important enough for you to care about then why do you keep coming back to check the thread and post?
Speaking of VG Cats, I coincidentally happened to go there yesterday and checked out the Pokemon and Team Fortress 2 comic. They were funny!
Pushpop might be on to something there.
While I don't agree with Pushpop due to being a huge Conan fan, I will say not all fans are like the ones here.
For example, I'm not saying shit. Rather that be me being lazy, not original enough to come up with something witty to say, or I actually think it adds fuel to the fire is completely up to your imagination to conclude.
@Usopp:
Wow, i spent my entire time in this thread bashing conan and his fans while voraciously supporting Leno…but chillax broskis. Making a valid argument against my biased statements is taking this way too seriously ya know. In fact you'd be better off not responding cause if you do i'll pretend like i care enough about this topic to make a post explaining why i don't care about this topic and securing my place as the guy who is too cool for forum debating
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Jay Leno's interview with Oprah proved he's pretty much a selfish dick.
So assuming that Conan was going to get booted anyhow and Leno had then turned it down.
In that scenario who would you guys have prefered to have take over the show?
i'm neither a Conan, nor a Leno fan, having seen neither
my shit talk is always unbiased
So assuming that Conan was going to get booted anyhow and Leno had then turned it down.
In that scenario who would you guys have prefered to have take over the show?
That show of solidarity was all that was needed. All Leno had to do was publically say "no" once. NBC wanted both guys and would have worked out a deal with one of them at that point. They might have kept Conan, given Leno a Saturday show or a car thing… Or Conan might have been more willing to push back half an hour at that point if Leno was also uneasy with it. They would have negotiated more. If it had ended up at this same result, based on the ratings and past performance, and Conan's unwillingness to shift the show thats been on at 11:30 for 60 years back, okay, thats fair, and both guys showed some integrity.
But instead Leno had six years to plan on retirement/something else, made threats about going to another network unless he got a new show, took the high profile guests, was publically stating months in advance that he wanted the Tonight Show back, didn't show any solidarity, and doesn't seem to show any remorse over kicking Conan out and/or messing the guys that come after by moving them back half an hour. And as near as we can tell, he never for a moment hesitated to agree to whatever the network wanted because it was going to benefit him no matter what, regardless of his "retirement" and all the other show hosts and primetime schedule he was messing with. And its all made worse by the fact that a similar situation happened with Carson and Letterman 20 years ago.
Its NOT Leno taking the job back in and of itself thats the problem. (I would have preferred Conan keeping it obviously, but…) Ratings, taste of the audience, thats all demographics and can be blamed purely on the network, and thats the reality of the world and buisness, there's nothing too specifically wrong in that respect. (Though we'll never know how Conan would have done with more time in the slot and better support) .
Its the douchebaggery way Leno went about getting the job back that makes him the badguy in this situation.
@The:
VG Cats? God, I'm glad you're on Jay Leno's side.
Lt. Carver agrees; VG Cats and Leno are both terrible.
(I blame NBC more than anybody. They wanted to placate both and ended up fucking with the one last department that they didn't obliterate.)
Conan pays severance salaries out of his own pocket.
With not all of his staff members being part of the deal, Conan is actually paying 6 weeks worth of severance pay to about 50 of his former employees. Regardless what you've thought of the situation, that's a class act right there.
Another reason why Coco is awesome.
With not all of his staff members being part of the deal, Conan is actually paying 6 weeks worth of severance pay to about 50 of his former employees. Regardless what you've thought of the situation, that's a class act right there.
A pity he only did it after people complained.
Jay Leno's interview with Oprah proved he's pretty much a selfish dick.
I actually saw this, and I've got to admit Leno did look like he was a loss for words more than once. I found myself not believing most of what he said.
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/letterman-wanted-conan-on-super-bowl-ad-sofa–975
What's wrong Conan? Too good to share a sofa with 3 other TV hosts?
WOAH.
I WISH I had seen that Superbowl commercial. ;_;
(on Superbowl Sunday)
@Usopp:
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/letterman-wanted-conan-on-super-bowl-ad-sofa–975
What's wrong Conan? Too good to share a sofa with 3 other TV hosts?
It's not his fault, he doesn't have a show anymore.
@Usopp:
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/letterman-wanted-conan-on-super-bowl-ad-sofa–975
What's wrong Conan? Too good to share a sofa with 3 other TV hosts?
It says Conan "Wasn't in a position" to do it.
Remember, he has a contract that says what he can and can't do on TV till September. He might have elected not to do it to be safe so as not to break contract.
He's not allowed to host a show/do an interview about this whole ordeal until September. Don't see what your problem with it is.
I thought this was over. Why do you wanna stir stuff up with this? I wouldnt expect him to do something like this and if he could do it and turned it down I wouldnt blame him for doing so.
I thought this was over. Why do you wanna stir stuff up with this? I wouldnt expect him to do something like this and if he could do it and turned it down I wouldnt blame him for doing so.
Exactly. And we don't know the EXACT Details of the contract, there may have been a clause involving stuff with Jay Leno or something.
Usopp With a Pushpop reduced to shivering mass by funny people, news at 11.
Canon fans and fanboys alike will enjoy this:
Gotta love how he's actually made a twitter worth reading. Making it funny certainly doesn't hurt.
I love Conan and I will wait patiently till the moment he returns to television.
In the meantime I will boycot unfunny pricks like Bigjaw.
Not like it matters, I'm not American anyway.
I love Conan and I will wait patiently till the moment he returns to television.
In the meantime I will boycot unfunny pricks like Bigjaw.
Not like it matters, I'm not American anyway.
Same here as well.
I was gonna bump this the other day mentioning how I can't believe it's only been a month. I watched the montage and end song again on the 22nd, during which I noticed in the few seconds between announcing Will Ferrel and the camera cutting back to Conan he had removed his tie and undone his collar. Doesn't take Conan much time to relax.
If he takes his show on the road until he's allowed to be on TV, I have to say that I'd probably go if I'm not strapped for cash for tickets or not at a convention. I still regret not being able to go to a Tonight Show taping.
Conan on stand-up… I'm not sure...
A pity he only did it after people complained.
how is that a pity…he didn't have to do it at all. They all had NBC contracts they signed and NBC said they didn't deserve anything so they complained and Conan picked up the bill. You make it sound like he should've been giving it to them in first place. Like Conan's name is the one on their checks these past months and he makes sure everyone gets paid and how much…
dumbass...:getlost:
i hope you guys are ready for the leno show tonight. goddamn it i know im not
waitaminutewaitaminutewaitaminute.
there are actually people who side with leno?
…...holy crap.
Oh shit. I just realized the TV got left on NBC and Leno is on DX GAH I WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE HIM MY RATINGS, DAMMIT
i hope you guys are ready for the leno show tonight. goddamn it i know im not
Wonder how many weeks it's gonna take til it gets sent over the pond.
If not they could atleast have the decency to air some Leno re-runs.
OH MY GOD GAIS ITS THE DUDE THAT HAS THE SHOW INSTEAD OF THE GUY I WANT TO HAVE THE SHOW! FUCK THAT GUY! EW EW EW EW EW!
Late Night Talk Show fanboys and fangirls… My god... What next, sitcom otaku?! Arguing over which character from The Big Bang Theory could beat which character from Yes Dear in a fight?!
OH MY GOD GAIS ITS THE DUDE THAT HAS THE SHOW INSTEAD OF THE GUY I WANT TO HAVE THE SHOW! FUCK THAT GUY! EW EW EW EW EW!
Late Night Talk Show fanboys and fangirls… My god... What next, sitcom otaku?! Arguing over which character from The Big Bang Theory could beat which character from Yes Dear in a fight?!
Well I did always like Yes Dear so my moneys on Jimmy. And incase you havent noticed this WAS something the whole country was talking about and pretty much unanimously agreed that Leno sucks.
anybody watch the show last night? fucking leno is a sinking ship. good job nbc.
i tried to make a drinking game out of it but it ended up being "stop drinking turn it off or i'll lose my mind"
' all the years of Tonight Show history were fucked in the face until they died tonight. '
You folks DO realise that, unless you have a neilson's box, you don't actually affect the ratings one way or the other, right? You can watch or boycott all you like, it doesn't make a lick of difference either way.