A good end to this awesome messy arc, hopefully next chapter is after a more-than-a-year time skip.
Chapter 580: "End of War" Discussion
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Technically, in one of the earlier Settei Pre, Lucky Roux is supposed to be really tall. Like as tall if not taller than Beckman. But yeah, he seems smaller, especially in the anime.
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So any particular reason why blood keeps appearing/disappearing from Akainu's face? Noticed few chapters ago too
Yepp, Akainu is just so hawt that the blood evaporates, but then it appears again cuz he´s bleeding, etc. etc. :D
As for the chapter, I understand where the guys thinking it was anti climatic come from (cuz it is… :D), but at the same time, I have to say it felt right (at least for me).
The drive for war was just...not there anywhere me thinks. With Coby´s speech, and then Shanks´ one (and possibly Shanks´ badassness xD), everybody kinda have come to their "senses".Now, I got a reason I can´t wait for school to begin again : The next OP chapter ;)
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If that's the case, then Scratchmen Apoo has been closer to being the Pirate King than Luffy since this happened to him:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/04/
Unless Oda reveals some epic stuff about Apoo in the future, I don't think these are anything more than attack names.
Oh I missed that. So much for my theory. His light-sword technique is named after another name for the Kusanagi as well.
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i love how shanks has so much faith in luffy . this is gonna be a great episode when animated. buggy is so lucky shanks is such a mellow and nice guy otherwise he would got socked in the face.
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http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/92/08.png -> damn, is Shanks´ eye looking crazy there xDD
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@Fire Priest:
As things are going now, I can see Luffy and Law having the same relationship as Rodger and Whitebeard as the series goes on.
sure not a bad thought…
having law as a rival which will never be defeated but who in the end has to accept luffy as PK sure sounds okay for me:happy: -
So here's the rest of what I'm guessing is the main crew. Any theories on em? Also.. MONKEY! YOSH!
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http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/92/08.png -> damn, is Shanks´ eye looking crazy there xDD
(sorry if someone posted this already =P)Haha … That's true ...
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@Don:
sure not a bad thought…
having law as a rival which will never be defeated but who in the end has to accept luffy as PK sure sounds okay for me:happy:what about Kidd. maybe he could be like kaidou or something to luffy with law being neutral to both
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Haha … That's true ...
…wait? What the...
Geez, that avatar made me think that I had somehow posted without remembering it.
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I hope Gin reappears, the guy promised to meet Luffy at the Grand Line and we are getting to the NW already, he shall better be shown.
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I hope Gin reappears, the guy promised to meet Luffy at the Grand Line and we are getting to the NW already, he shall better be shown.
No, we need more Moria.
Fuck Gin.
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@RPG:
what about Kidd. maybe he could be like kaidou or something to luffy with law being neutral to both
i think kidd really is luffy's rival coz he also wanted to get one piece as much as luffy does, right?
he even killed those who doesn't even believe in it.. but he liked luffy becoz they share the same belief… :blink:
oh damn, who knows?
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@Fire Priest:
"After War: Coby gets Promoted"
"After War: Akainu Magma Fist Random People"
"After War: Smoker's Drunken Marriage Proposal"
"After War: Akainu Has Night School with George W. Bush"
"After War: Tashigi Has an Affair with Coby"
"After War: Akainu Kills Random Squirrel while Sengoku Watches"
"After War: Smoker's Sober Divorce""After The War: Sengoku loses face"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists Granny"
"After The War: San Wolf is spotted….Again"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists a Moria"
"After The War: Funeral"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists the Priest" -
Im not familiar with English idioms, but what does SAVE FACE mean?
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looking back at the very first chap where shanks and crew are in the bar, theirs one panel with lucky lou and yasopp dancing around with other crew memebers and you can see both bald guy with monkey in the current chap spread as well as the other dude with pony tail and scar right behind yasopp in the current chap spread
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"After The War: Sengoku loses face"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists Granny"
"After The War: San Wolf is spotted….Again"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists a Moria"
"After The War: Funeral"
"After The War: Akainu magma fists the Priest"Most of those suck including the Moria one.
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I would see it more like a covery-story thing. Sort of like the "Where are they now?" thing, but something like, "After the War" for each of the characters.
"After the War: Akainu Kills a Bunny"
"After the War: Shanks and Buggy Have a Drink."
"After the War: Akainu Kills a Kitten"
"After the War: Coby Faces Garp's Fist of Love"
"After the War: Akainu Kills a Puppy"Stuff like that.
Uh oh… I think you might have opened up Pandora's Box of AkainuxHancock shipping...
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"After The War: Akainu magma fists the Priest"
looks at my username I see what you did there.
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Uh oh… I think you might have opened up Pandora's Box of AkainuxHancock shipping...
_"I will slowly fist you, for great justice…"
"Oh no, you'll do it faster. Because I am...Beautiful..._
WHY MAN?! WHY?!
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Uh oh… I think you might have opened up Pandora's Box of AkainuxHancock shipping...
As long as the baby seals are okay, I think we're safe. =]
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Shanks was like, "I'll kill all you fuckers if you raise a sword or gun."
Akianu: Raises fist at a random marine
Shank: You too.
Akianu: Dammit!! smashes own face
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Did anybody notice that Blackbeards exit was a little too casual?
I mean it was like, "Eh I'm done lets go home."
and all the marines were like, "Sure you just destroyed our base and played us for chumps but whatever." -
Oh poor Buggy! A close up without his makeup done properly, how embarrassing!
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^Maybe Lucky simple has grown a little over the past 10 years…
I like Shanks crew. They look more "real" than the slim, pretty boys in Luffy's crew.
Well there is Chopper and Franky…
Although Luffy's crew has quite a few teenagers. They'll grow.
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@Fire Priest:
looks at my username I see what you did there.
I didn't mean it like that! Honest!
Most of those suck including the Moria one.
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I didn't mean it like that! Honest!
Alright then. I was messing with you, anyway.
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Did anybody notice that Blackbeards exit was a little too casual?
I mean it was like, "Eh I'm done lets go home."
and all the marines were like, "Sure you just destroyed our base and played us for chumps but whatever."Yea, Sengoku was like "You are destroying my island! I'm going to kill you!" and then Blackbeard just leave. Their future encounter will be like
"Do you want to destroy another ship or kill some hundreds of marines with your power Teach?"
"No, thanks, but I would like to get your DF if you are okay with that"
"Only after we drink some of Franky's cola.
"Oh man, that cola is supaa"Unfunny jokes aside, that was the only part I dislike on this chapter.
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There were two parts I really liked about this chapter:
1. Buggy flipping out at Shanks when he realized that he was just screwing with him.
2. The pages where you see all the marines and pirates looking sad except for Doflamingo and Moria who look as happy as pigs in shit.
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2. The pages where you see all the marines and pirates looking sad except for Doflamingo and Moria who look as happy as pigs in shit.
I wonder, are they sad because the fighting's over, or because of how Whitebeard went out?
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Did anybody notice that Blackbeards exit was a little too casual?
I mean it was like, "Eh I'm done lets go home."
and all the marines were like, "Sure you just destroyed our base and played us for chumps but whatever."It's just like Shanks said, if they tried to stop BB, the whole war would just start all over again, with the addition of Shanks' crew thrown into the mix. It's obvious from his face that Sengoku didn't wanna just drop it, but not much else could be done at that point. I think it was a pretty poignant way to end things; since not much could be gained and a lot would be lost by both sides, it's better not to drag things out, both from a story perspective and for the sake of letting the readers move on.
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The reasoning behind ending the war was that both sides suffer heavy casualties and further bloodshed would be pointless? What heavy casualties? The Marines have all their top fighters still untouched, except for Akainu but he is still game. It's only Ace, Whitebeard, and Oaz Jr. that died. Still plenty of pirates left. The ones that got hurt or died were those weak fodders but those guys are meaningless. I'm suprise Sengoku would agree to stop. They still have a strong front. This is a good opportunity to take out as many top pirates. I see no reason to stop. It should have been a 3 way fight between Blackbeard Pirates, Shanks+whitebeard pirates, and Marines. Until most of the top guys are seriously hurt, then they can all call it a truce. But most of them didn't even break a sweet. The war ended too prematurely.
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My thoughts
EVERYONE: Ho-ly Crap!, The Red Haired Gang!
SHANKS: Hey Hat long time no see….whelp see ya later then BUGGY RETURN TO SENDER WILL YA?
BUGGY: SCREW YOU!
SHANKS: I got a treasure map
BUGGY: OKAY =D (He returns it) Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie
SHANKS: Oop sorry its not on me.
BUGGY: SON OF A BI...
ADMIRALS: OH HELL NO WERE NOT LETTING DRAGON'S SON GET AWAY! ULTIMATE ADMIRAL ATTACK!
(Attack Status: To Be Continued)
KIZARU: Meh whatever
HANCOCK: Luffy alive am going after him and not became I love him or anything it my duty as a warlord.
(Hahaha...Suspiciously Specific Denial)
SHANKS: Anyone else wanna get rowdy? We'll beat ya like the dogs ye are
MIHAWK: Screw this am going to bed.
BB: Raincheck on that please =D Exit stage left my crew!
(Jeopardy theme as the marines mull it over)
SENGOKU: Ah this war was getting boring anyway. Alright thats it pack it up everyone were done.
SHANKS: Coolness ^_^
(And thus WAR OVER BY THE POWER OF BADASS THAT IS SHANKS!)
Me: HOORAY!
(No chapter next week)
ME: GOD DAMMIT!Overall: A little rushed on certain parts but am glad its finally reached the end. Now comes my favorite part after any arc, the aftermath....right after we gotta slog through a week without a chapter =P.
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1. Buggy flipping out at Shanks when he realized that he was just screwing with him.
Buggy the Mighty is clearly the only one in the story who's not afraid of Shanks. That shows how powerful he is!
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The reasoning behind ending the war was that both sides suffer heavy casualties and further bloodshed would be pointless? What heavy casualties? The Marines have all their top fighters still untouched, except for Akainu but he is still game. It's only Ace, Whitebeard, and Oaz Jr. that died. Still plenty of pirates left. The ones that got hurt or died were those weak fodders but those guys are meaningless. I'm suprise Sengoku would agree to stop. They still have a strong front. This is a good opportunity to take out as many top pirates. I see no reason to stop. It should have been a 3 way fight between Blackbeard Pirates, Shanks+whitebeard pirates, and Marines. Until most of the top guys are seriously hurt, then they can all call it a truce. But most of them didn't even break a sweet. The war ended too prematurely.
ahahaha you blood thirsty man, so in your perspective in a war, if your not someone in command or higher power but just fodder are nothing but a waste? so all those lives are just meaningless to you? damn man, each to their own i guess but I'm glad its over and the marines who don't want to fight can go home to their family and the pirates can leave.
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My thoughts
EVERYONE: Ho-ly Crap!, The Red Haired Gang!
SHANKS: Hey Hat long time no see….whelp see ya later then BUGGY RETURN TO SENDER WILL YA?
BUGGY: SCREW YOU!
SHANKS: I got a treasure map
BUGGY: OKAY =D (He returns it) Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie
SHANKS: Oop sorry its not on me.
BUGGY: SON OF A BI...
ADMIRALS: OH HELL NO WERE NOT LETTING DRAGON'S SON GET AWAY! ULTIMATE ADMIRAL ATTACK!
(Attack Status: To Be Continued)
KIZARU: Meh whatever
HANCOCK: Luffy alive am going after him and not became I love him or anything it my duty as a warlord.
(Hahaha...Suspiciously Specific Denial)
SHANKS: Anyone else wanna get rowdy? We'll beat ya like the dogs ye are
MIHAWK: Screw this am going to bed.
BB: Raincheck on that please =D Exit stage left my crew!
(Jeopardy theme as the marines mull it over)
SENGOKU: Ah this war was getting boring anyway. Alright thats it pack it up everyone were done.
SHANKS: Coolness ^_^
(And thus WAR OVER BY THE POWER OF BADASS THAT IS SHANKS!)
Me: HOORAY!
(No chapter next week)
ME: GOD DAMMIT!Overall: A little rushed on certain parts but am glad its finally reached the end. Now comes my favorite part after any arc, the aftermath....right after we gotta slog through a week without a chapter =P.
Your perspective on this chapter has been the funniest yet XD rofl
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Im not familiar with English idioms, but what does SAVE FACE mean?
Saving face would be to give someone a way to resolve a situation leaving their honor in an acceptable state. It is often an action done without practical value, an example is having someone reciprocate a mistake they made and want to make up for, rather than going for the most effectual solution of having someone else do it. An example could be that someone didn't do well on an exam, and the teacher admonished the student privately rather than publicly, in order to save the face of the student from his peers.
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Saving face would be to give someone a way to resolve a situation leaving their honor in an acceptable state. It is often an action done without practical value, an example is having someone reciprocate a mistake they made and want to make up for, rather than going for the most effectual solution of having someone else do it. An example could be that someone didn't do well on an exam, and the teacher admonished the student privately rather than publicly, in order to save the face of the student from his peers.
Oh I see, thanks for the explanation.
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man, id love to see every one of his crew members not having a devil fruit.
But using pure skill to own, it would be pretty sweet for a change to not have crews with people with fruits. -
or perhaps the bald guy's monkey having a df no?
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I also found the ending antic-limactic, but I guess at this point in the war, everyone just wanted the war to end.
The Marines already killed Ace and WB, who were the main targets. Killing the WB pirates was just a second priority; even if the latter survived, without WB they're not much of a threat. I guess Sengoku figures that without WB, the crew will go it's separate ways, and will be a much less of a threat than they were before. At that point, killing them now may not be worth it at the cost of the lives of their "elite" troops, as well as their own.
Giving up on BB was just surprising. But I guess if the marines had to face WB pirates, Shanks, and BB, the marines knew they'd get owned. At this point, they just had to deal with it. Going suicide against everyone, when you have no chance of winning, is just stupid. It's better that they regrouped now and faced each threat later.
Agreed. But it also shows NO ONE wanted a piece of the Red Hair Pirates. Especially because they aren't in the best shape.
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It wouldn't have felt so anti-climactic if everybody didn't leave at the same time. If people began to leave (escape) in the last couple of chapters it wouldn't have felt like everybody went meh and left.
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Actually, I like that they all just left at the same time. I think it shows the mood of absolute exhaustion both sides had from the war.
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So here's the rest of what I'm guessing is the main crew. Any theories on em? Also.. MONKEY! YOSH!
Including the monkey there are 10 members in the panel. I want to see if Oda will pull off any monkey fight scenes.
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I can not stop laughing at the bald guy's vacant face. The monkey having a DF is a intresting idea.
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Still wondering what happened to San Juan. Hopefully it will be cleared up but somehow I doubt it.