Most/Least Traumatc/Sad Past for the Strawhats

[BeansDooma]

I was watching the fourth OP opening and I thought of this: Which Straw Hat has had the saddest past? They've all been rightfully trauma'd, but who the most? Here's my rank, least to most:

7. Luffy: Shanks lost his arm, then left… not to much horror there.
6. Zoro: Yeah, Kuina died, but he still fights on in her honor, or something. Nothing too bad, in comparison to the others, anyway.
5. Usopp: His mother died, his father left. Sad, but not horrible.
4. Sanji: Starved on a rock, his soon-to-be mentor ate his own leg. Learned to never waste food. Hooray morals!
3. Chopper: His best (only) friend was poisoned... by Chopper himself. Then, he blew himself up. No friends. Pretty dang sad.
2. Nami: Now we get into the horrorble. Her entire town is taken over by pirates, and she watches her mother get shot in the head. Thrice.
1. Robin: Only survivor as she watched her entire island be unjustly genocide...ed. Yeah. No friends or family either, before that.

So, that's my analysis.

[Masta D.]

Ussop had the worst past. No parents…
Sanji's was pretty bad too, bud Nami has the most tragic of all becuase she's a girl who has to endure being lyed to.

[chpollastrini]

@Masta:

Ussop had the worst past. No parents…
Sanji's was pretty bad too, bud Nami has the most tragic of all becuase she's a girl who has to endure being lyed to.

None of them had parents…real ones at least....

[ybmc]

Chopper's is pretty sad for me. Especially when he comes in standing on his brokenn leg and still walking just to save his father figure.

Franky's was sad in a differrent sense, like Sanji's. He learned something from that.

And the Skypeia one wiht Calgara and Norland gets me every time I read it.

[Vanessa]

Chopper had the worst, his parents didn't die on him. They basically spit in his face and kicked him out of their lives for good.

[lxn]

My opinion is nami has the saddest part.

[zero chan]

Most traumatic/ Most sad past: Without a doubt Robin. She has a lonely childhood like Chopper. The later part of her life is like Nami's, but many times worse.

Least sad: Zoro. I know his friend died and it's supposed to be a sad thing. But the fact that she died from falling down the stairs makes the whole thing lame.

[nguyen]

Yosh. me agrees.

[COWMAKAZE]

I used to be under the impression that Chopper's was the saddest. Then came Robin's, which was basically Chopper's but with maybe 1000 Hilruks.

My order, least sad to saddest: Luffy, Zoro, Usopp, Franky, Nami, Sanji(manga), Chopper, Robin.

Sanji's may seem out of place on that list, but that was THE part of OP at which I respected Oda as a writer. The anime version sucked, but the manga was so shocking and so sad. Also, I find that oftentimes the saddest part of a backstory is the Oda Sad Face that comes - Usopp's face when he disbands the Usopp Pirate Crew makes me so sad.
In speaking of Usopp, his backstory only gets to me because of the reason that he runs around yelling "Pirates are coming". It just seemed so fragile and sad I couldn't help but be sad.

[Mr. All Sunday]

Saddest to least….

1. Robin: I think we can all agree that Robin has had the worst past. She never met her mother, and then was treated like dirt by her foster family. She was hated by the local children because of her devil fruit power. She later finally was reunited with her mother, only to watch her mother sacrifice herself for history. She then watched her first friend be killed, and sailed away watching the destruction of her island. She spent the following twenty years joining multiple groups only to watch them fall apart. Robin's flashback gets a cookie because it was the second time I'd actually shed tears over piece of literature; when she embraced Olvia...it really showed how genius Oda is.

2. Nami gets the number two spot. She gave me the first shed tears at literature; Bellemere's death felt like someone I really knew was just shot.

3. Chopper's past was horrible. I can't remember where I saw it, but Bevin made a beautiful AMV with Chopper using the song "Be Lonely" from the Phantom of the Opera. It showed the sorrow of his past really well.

4. Sanji, not really sad per se, but he had an awful past. It was pretty depressing when Zeff cut his leg off.

5. Franky's past was pretty bad, Tom's death (or is he dead?!) was touching. And Franky throwing himself into the train was really, really sad.

6. Usopp. The pirates are coming line was really emotional and showed how fragile Usopp was.

7. Zoro. His friend died, but it really didn't affect me like Bellemere or the destruction of Ohara.

8. Luffy, normal child hood minus an arm. Big deal.

[Darkariel]

The girls past get 1st place Nami and Nico Robin

Then Chopper and Sanji both had bad times (Althought Franky isn't a true Strawhat, yet, I place him in 2nd place too)

After that Ussop, Luffy and Zoro, Ussop and Zoro lost someone dear to then and Luffy almost died if it wasn't for Shanks giving is arm to save him

The girls have the must sad past but since this a manga for guys(Boys) a sad girls past appeal more

[omnichild]

I couldn't really say who has the saddest past. Right now it is a toss up between Nami and Robin. BUT, We haven't had all of Zoro's Luffy's or Sanji's past revealed yet. Only a little piece of them. How did Zoro get to wandering around to Dojo's? How did Sanji become a kitchen boy in that one ship? What happened to Luffy's parents?

[KamenRiderNeko]

Omni's right, I wonder if we'll ever get to find out more about them.

as of now though, Robin's past is definitly the saddest to me. I've read through those chapters several times, each time I still cry so much.

Nami's past was pretty sad too, I didn't cry nearly as much though.

If anything, Zoro's is the least saddest right now. but then again, wonder what happened to his real parents (same w/ Sanji and Luffy)

[Marine_Aokiji]

i think nami's is the saddest,she lost her "Mother" and had to join something which she don't want to,and PIRATENEKO,FOR GOD SAKE CHANGE YOUR AVATAR!!

[Robot Chicken]

Robin wins most traumatic and saddest past. Olivia, Saul, and Clover all killed, island destroyed, and blamed for something she didn't do at such a young age. She still hasn't made completle peace with the Mugiwaras yet.

Nami is the next saddest. Her adoptive mother killed right in front of her, and taken away as a slave just so she wouldn't be killed too. Of course she was still on her home island and her sister was still there, but it was some tough crap until she met up with the Mugiwaras.

And lastly, a tie with Usopp and Chopper. Usopp's mother died, but his dad is still alive and a pirate Usopp is proud of. Hiriluk is dead, but Chopper has/had Kureha, who continued his training as a doctor. Chopper was forced out of his community, and Usopp was rejected by his village. However, I think Chopper's is slightly more sad because he was forced out because of something he couldn't control. Usopp chose to lie.

So…..

Robin
Nami
Chopper
Usopp
Zoro
Sanji
Luffy

[zeroxtb]

i have to go with Robin because of the reasons most people here stated

-Destruction of homeland
-only friend killed by marines during said destruction
-Reunited with mother after so many years, only to see her sacrifice herself
-Not being able to form a relationship with anybody she's been with due to the bounty placed on her for something she didn't even do

[joekido the Second]

What's up with Nami being the Saddest? True she faced a trumatic past; watching a froster mother die by getting shot in the head.

I'll say Robin has the most trumaic past:

Nami olny saw Bellemare die. Robin helplessly watched the whole island burn to ash as all her family members, her mother, her frist friend Sauro, and Clover died in that fire.

Nami did not lose the whole island or villages.

Nami was forced in the group by Arlong. Robin was forced into differant group/pirates and they would try to give her to the WG or throw her overboard

Nami was seen as a witch of Cocoyashi by only one island. Robin was called Demon of Ohara by the whole world.

Nami thought her village hated her(pretanding to). Robin was hated by the world and the WG is afried of her yet no one is pretanding.

Nami worked with Arlong. Robin worked with Crocodile. Arlong fooled Nami and made her cry. Robin fooled Crocodile and tries to kill him but almost died.

Robin is more turmaic then Nami.

Here is the rate of trumitic characters
(Most to Least)

1. Nico Robin

2. Nami

3. Franky-Ouch, he was kicked out by his parents and was found by Tom, lost Tom and nearly died so he replaced his damage body with metals thus became a Cyborg.

4. Usopp-Lost his mom, he becomes loney untie three boys meets him

5. Chopper-Kicked out by his parents, ate devil fruit and the whole island see him as a monster and tries to kill him

6. Sanji-Lost all people in his ship, stuck in a small island with Zeff who broke his leg to eat it and gave all food to Sanji

7. Zoro-Lost Kunia who fell down the stairs and broke her neck and broke the promise to Zoro so he has to fight Mihawk

8. Luffy D. Monkey-Watched Shanks get his arm bitten off. Is afried of his Grandfather

[KamenRiderNeko]

@Marine_Aokiji:

i think nami's is the saddest,she lost her "Mother" and had to join something which she don't want to,and PIRATENEKO,FOR GOD SAKE CHANGE YOUR AVATAR!!

changes

that better, sir?

and about the Robin and Nami thing…. i remember mentioning something in that "thoughts on robin" thread... apparently nobody noticed/cared.

[CosmicDebris]

I think they're all sad and traumatic…although I think we don't have Luffy's whole story. I don't really like trying to rank them, because it is hard to really measure the impact that traumatic events can have on a child. Some handle them better than others. It seems that Robin's past caused her the most heartache and trauma out of anyone, although as a reader it didn't pull on my heartstrings quite as much as Chopper's, Nami's or even Franky's did.

Usopp's situation, while it was very briefly shown, if you really try to think of what it would be like to see your mother die, and grow up all alone just waiting and hoping that your father will come back, that's terribly sad. Sometimes a long, stretched out period of lonliness is more painful that a brief moment of violent trauma.

[Toko]

I think the most sad was that Skypiea flashback. I mean… All the other guys at least knew what happened to their beloved ones, but Norland and Calgara both lived in uncertainty. Norlands execution was so unfair and Calgara's death wasn't especially nice either.
I don't want to say who has the least sad past since I feel sorry for all of them.

[DarkShinobi]

Chopper's was my personal favorite, but the saddest one definately is Robin's.

The Skypeia flashback also got to me.

[ITSALION]

Undoubtedly, Robin had the saddest life.

[Zephos]

Robin has had it worst.
Luffy the least.

Zoro didn't have it too bad either.

[RixileKetchupKing]

From least to most!

8. Luffy
Shanks lost an arm. That's it. No one important died, just some limb loss.

7. Zoro
His friend dying is pretty sad, but as someone else said, she just fell down some stairs. It's not like she was murdered or anything.

6. Sanji
This one isn't too sad, but still really good. The manga was so intense! I felt really bad for both Sanji and Zeff. And another backstory with limb loss! Delicious, nutritious limb loss…

5. Usopp
Poor Usopp. He had to watch his mom die. And the whole 'the pirates are coming' thing makes me sad on the inside.

4. Franky
Very emotional. I wanted to kill Spandam at that point. Then Franky jumps in front of a train...and he felt like it was all his fault that Tom had to die.

3. Nami
All I can say is, that Arlong is a b*****d. So sad...

2. Chopper
Another tragic moment. With the poison, and the abandonment, and all those other factors. I still have to read the manga version though.

1. Robin
In my book, easily the most tragic. She had to watch her home get destroyed, and her friend frozen to death. And she had to let her mother go for the 2nd time. And as a result, she's been chased her whole life! It was one of the few times I (almost) cried because of a piece of literature.

[Zephos]

Though…...I think we have to factor in that there could easily be more to Luffy's backstory (and Zoro's).
All it explained was his ambition. It didn't explore his parental situation, or even his sibling situation.
Or why he freaked out when Aokiji mentioned his Grandpa.

In all truthfulness we never really got a formal flashback for him. Its just how the series started out.

[CosmicDebris]

Yeah, I'm fully expecting more elaboration on Luffy's past, but it probably would spoil the plot if we knew it all right away.

[kislio]

I wanna say Franky's is the most tragic, just because… wow. Him trying to stop the Sea Train the way he did in the first place, and what he thinks when he does it... wow (again). But I get a lot more torn up reading Robin's flashback, just because it's something I (and most people, I'd think) could relate to more. Most people understand parental love and know what it's like to be without it for any length of time. I, at least, can't personally relate to Franky, as in seeing the people I care about be hurt and knowing it's my fault, and that now they're dying for my mistakes.

If this made any sense, then me FTW :laugh:

[crossbowgurl]

worst: nami's and robin (yup… bad stuff happened) also franky's...

but the one that i felt saddest for was ussop ;_; "the pirates are coming" makes me wanna cry

[Geese]

Robin HANDS DOWN. I'm surprised she isn't a little crazy after all that. Anyway, in descending order:

1. Robin
2. Nami/Chopper (tie)
3. Franky
4. Usopp
5. Sanji (pretty traumatizing but not that tragic)
6. Zoro
7. Luffy

[Taleran]

Choppers made me feel the worst

2nd was the Dog in episode 6 (I believe)

[omnichild]

Oh the dog was indeed a sad story.

I think it is really hard for us to say for sure right now who has truly the saddest past. A lot of us are putting Luffy last. Saying he only watched Shanks lose an arm. But what about his life before Shanks came in it? What was it like when Ace left to be a pirate? What about his relationship with his grandfather?

I am guessing that when more about Luffy's childhood and past is revealed, some of us might be changing our rankings a little.

[KrnxAJa]

when I first read One Piece back in 97 (it was in Korea, visiting at the time), I actually cried reading the Shu-Shu(the dog)'s story. It was at the local shopping mall, and I was reading manga(manhwa in Korean, did not know One Piece was Japanese) in the book section.

Cuz I was crying, the mall security thought I lost my parents, I lied and said that I did lose them.

C'mon, I'm not gonna tell them I cried because of a manga (manhwa) book?

[Takato Metallium]

@COWMAKAZE:

In speaking of Usopp, his backstory only gets to me because of the reason that he runs around yelling "Pirates are coming". It just seemed so fragile and sad I couldn't help but be sad.

I'm in agreement with this (and not because I'm an Usopp fan).

Whether it be dubbed or subbed, I always cry during that episode. Usopp seemed a very fragile character to me, and to learn the reason why he ran around yelling "Pirates are coming!" made me burst into tears. Having to raise yourself from the age of six…it seemed Bachina was such a nice mother; I really wish I could've given him a hug then.

It might not seem as harsh as Bellmere being shot down in front of Nami and Nojiko or Doctor H being unintentionally poisoned by Chopper and then blowing himself up, but it's still very cruel to have your mother be taken by a disease no one in your village could cure. And to have your father out at sea - not knowing when he'd return or if you'd ever see him again - that must have been a very hard reality bomb for Usopp.

wants badly to give Usopp a hug

[taboo]

I will always think of Nami as having the saddest past, I suppose. She was more or less a slave to her mother's murderer for years…

[CosmicDebris]

@Takato:

Whether it be dubbed or subbed, I always cry during that episode. Usopp seemed a very fragile character to me, and to learn the reason why he ran around yelling "Pirates are coming!" made me burst into tears.

Yeah, it makes me upset when people say "oh Usopp's past wasn't sad, he had a happy childhood".
It's almost morbid when you think about the fact that it was almost like he was refusing to give in to what he KNEW was true by continuing to yell about the pirates coming. He doesn't deal with death very well, as you see again later in the story. And it seems that he grew up all alone, at least until the last 4 years when he befriended the 3 kids, but they don't exactly seem like people he could go to for help or advice….that's why he just went and stared at the sea when he was sad.

I also wonder if he's not covering up some hidden resentment with his dad leaving. He always says he's proud of his dad, and I don't disbelieve that, but I think he tends to brag on the outside to cover up he's isecure about on the inside. Yes I'm psychoanalyzing Usopp again, sue me.

PS - I cried in the dub too...out of the awful butchering of it.

[Takato Metallium]

@CosmicDebris:

I also wonder if he's not covering up some hidden resentment with his dad leaving. He always says he's proud of his dad, and I don't disbelieve that, but I think he tends to brag on the outside to cover up he's isecure about on the inside. Yes I'm psychoanalyzing Usopp again, sue me.

I'm in agreement with you about him having resentment towards Yasopp. It seems to me that Yasopp left them right before Bachina died, possibly even a month or so before. He had to have been aware that Bachina was sick, made up some lame excuse about finding her a cure and then either left with Shanks' crew or on his own.
Mm-hmm. I used to brag to cover up when I was feeling insecure. That's probably partially the reason why I like Usopp so much - I used to be a lot like him.

[CosmicDebris]

I don't think Yasopp came up with the cure idea, I think that was just Usopp's imagination. But then maybe you're right, I never did think of that. Fact is, it really doesn't give us enough information to know whether Yasopp knew she was ill or how long it was before he left that she died. We'll probably find that out when Luffy's crew meets up with Shanks crew in the future. I look forward to that, it'll be an eye-opening experience for sure.

[Sakonosolo]

I haven't seen Robin's past so I think that Nami had the most traumatic childhood. I mean, my eyes watered up when I saw Bellemere get shot by Arlong and everyones' reactions. It was really sad.:bawling:

[crossbowgurl]

@Kairouseki:

I haven't seen Robin's past so I think that Nami had the most traumatic childhood. I mean, my eyes watered up when I saw Bellemere get shot by Arlong and everyones' reactions. It was really sad.:bawling:

oooh… robin's past is SAD TT^TT cant wait till you see it, its a cruel lil story maybe even sadder than nami's....

[Tragic_johnson]

well whatever flashback, it was sad enough for the charecter involved in it. Though Robin's flashback seemed to be the most traumitizing. For me I thought overall Chopper and Nami's flashbacks were the saddest. Everytime I watch or read them I cry. Thank you Oda for writing such good material.

[Yiddiddy]

The pasts that had the most most impact on me(the first time trough, it usually have more of an impact) were Chopper's, Franky's, Nami's, and Norland's. Mabey it's because I was reading her past one chapter a week that Robin's didn't have that much of an impact of me, I'll have to reread it.

Anyway Choppers was just sad. Abandonment, Poisoning his only friend, His friend killing himself so Chopper wasn't the one who killed him. Just Sad.

Franky was simimlar to Chopper: Casusing the death (as far as we know) of someone he loved. After building all his Battle Frankys, which were basically his life's work at the time, and having them screw up Tom's freedom was pretty sad. You wanted to beat the crap out of Spamdam after that. And to stop the sea train he jumps right in front of it. Even more sad is seeing the frog try to stop him.

Nami's was the big "THIS IS MY FAVORITE SERIES" for me. Getting to know the characters only to see Bell'mere get shot in the head right in front of her. Though I think hers had a better ending since the village was freed, and that what she set out to do.

And Norland's as a whole is what made Skypiea come together. Especially the end with Norland on the excution block, so sad.

I'm expecting Luffy's past to really jump up there. He's going to be a guy with a terrible past who hides it all behind a wide smile.

[Dixxy Mouri]

Someone mentioned earlier that we don't have the complete stories behind all of the Straw Hats and there are certainly some "missing pieces" for certain Straw Hats.

Luffy: He's the main character in a shonen series. He's hiding a skeleton in the closet for sure. One of the three Straw Hats I am MOST curious about.

Zoro: Zoro couldn't have been very old when Kuina beat him for the first time - why was he running around challenging dojos anyways? Where were his parents when he was doing all of this (and presumably staying at the dojo)? One of the three Straw Hats I am MOST curious about.

Nami: Her past is very well fleshed out - there could be an arguement for who her birth parents were but I doubt it's something she would ever find out (even so, Bellemere was her mother even if they weren't biologically related).

Usopp: Yeah. Hidden resentment. Definitely. But otherwise a very well fleshed out history. I'm thinking the best we'll get for any more of his past will be his actual feelings about Yassopp leaving him and his mother.

Sanji: How the hell did he get on that kitchen boat in the first place and why did he leave North Blue to pursue his chef career? One of the three Straw Hats I am MOST curious about (although with Sanji I'm a tad bit biased).

Chopper: They basically had him covered from birth, although one has to wonder where he got his Devil Fruit from - I always felt they grew in tropical environments but Drum is a Winter Island.

Robin: I doubt a stone will be unturned by the time the crew leaves Enies Lobby.

I don't know enough about Franky or the other potential 8th crew members (I'd say anyone is fair game - I'm citing Robin as Oda's way of saying "HA! You'll NEVER be able to guess who the new crew members are going to be EVER AGAIN!").

And of course. . .

Pandaman. Half man. Half panda. Sounds like a made for TV movie already.

[shadowrep]

Luffy and crew only past's who do you think had the saddest childhood welli dont waiting for 275 to finish watching so i will post here later

[gomugomunogomu]

Robins past was definetly the saddest.

[Corson D. Burley]

I've not seen Robin's yet (I will today), so for the moment, I'll say Ussop (father left, mother died, etc…), Chopper (shortened the life-span of his mentor...), or Franky (parents abandoned him because he was too wild, surrogate father was taken and executed by the government, hit by a train...). Luffy's (as far as we've actually SEEN) was the least heart-wrenching, but, judging by his reaction to Aokigi's mention of his grandfather, I think we're in for a Hell of a tale.

[Spirit of Zoro]

Robin's, Franky's, or Nami's… hmm...

[Onigumo]

The way I look at it, only three of the Strawhats have suffered real tragedies.

Nami, who was forced to make maps for the asshole who killed her surrogate mother in front of her.

Chopper how was rejected by everybody, and had only one friend who was killed trying to help other people.

Robin who was treated like shit by everybody on the island except the archeoligists, and then have everyone she cared about destroyed, and was betrayed for 79 million by all those she encountered.

I would say Robin.

Usopp still had friends and enjoyed life despite his mother dying.
Sanji's suffering was only about a month.
Franky hasn't joined the crew yet officially.
Luffy's past is still unknown.
Zoro still had many people who he could look up to.

[Taleran]

@Onigumo:

Sanji's suffering was only about a month.

I do believe you may be underestimating just how bad a month like that would be

[Le Lawliet]

Isn't 85ish days almost three months?

[CosmicDebris]

we already had this topic, I have merged them, please use the search function next time.