Hell, yeah. I went and checked the Date-Ricardo fight (that I had not read before) : whatever happened to crazy pressure, aggressively pushing in and fierce trades with lightning-fast reflexes ? It's like we're seeing a different Ricardo.
Honestly the perceived power difference in the current fight is reaching DBZ levels of stupid; anytime now someone's going to say Wally fights in a league of his own and they'd better not interfere.
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Hajime no Ippo
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In all honesty, this entire mess makes no sense no matter how you look at it. I can accept Wally's style surprising Ricardo so much that he actually got hit. That actually works. But no way are bullshit acrobatics that OP that a fighter loses track of his opponent. It's one thing to have a different style and a completely different thing that a skilled professional fighter like Ricardo can not hit a moving target. And that's just if we apply real world logic.
It get's far worse though if we apply manga logic previously used in this very same series. We had Takamura knock out a friggin bear with his fists. A real wild animal, not just a boy acts like one. While Ricardo is not Takamura, he's still portrayed to be a league of his own in his weight class. It just doesn't make sense for him to be this helpless simply because boxers are not helpless if they get into a fight with someone who doesn't play by professional boxing rules. This fight is an absolute shitshow.
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What can i, a mere mortal do against the embodiment of mary sue. Barf
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@wolfwood The Golota Punch.
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@Johnny-B-Decent nice try but it would only reveal that Woli has no balls
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Now that's what I'm talking about! That's why he's the MVP. That's why he's the GOAT! The GOAT!
That Wally face at the end is spit take worthy.
Next up, Sendo's stupid green eyes. "I ain't going down, I'm a tiger." Bitch, you lost 10 times to Ippo. Here's a jab. -
I suppose you could say that slow and steady win the race:
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Hajime-No-Ippo-chapter-1403.htmlAnd it's true that location matters in any athletics.
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Man, that chapter felt GOOD. This is very likely not the end, but the down was sooo cathartic after all the praise and monkey antics... Let me bask in it for a week now ^___^
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This is by far the worst piece of shit fight in the entire series. I really want to be happy that Ricardo finally started owning Wally like a boss as he should. But the entire 'how' is throwing me off.
So Ricardo has decided to "return" back basics. Nice idea but when exactly was he not using fundamentals doing something outlandish instead? He didn't he observed his opponents and tried to gauge him with fundamentals. "But Ivotas you raging but yet handsome connoisseur of boxing" I hear you say. "Didn't you get that Ricardo said he just elevated the fundamentals?" Well paragraph in my post, to this I say that someone like Ricardo who is at the peak and literally untouchable because he's that good, should long have elevated and polished pretty much everything in his arsenal.
Not to mention that you don't just elevate things at the flip of a switch. Like what does that even mean? Did Ricardo use half assed attempts until this very moment. This is just truly horrible writing.
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Oh, you're absolutely right. I take enjoyment where I can, but the fight is very poor. The only part I could buy is Wally getting justly tired from all the running and jumping, at which point a - comparatively fresh - defensive Ricardo would have preserved enough strength to take back the initiative. But the rest is just mumbo jumbo, a nonsensical wrapping to make the fight look like something it is not.
I wonder what the coach's trump card will be, though. "If all the acrobatics can win that title, I'm buying you a crate of bananas" ?
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@Seafarer33
I can totally get the we have to take the enjoyment where we can get it part. Still I find it really hard because Ricardo didn't do anything differently. It's only that Morikawa has decided it's effective now.I can also get the Wally is getting tired part, but for that to work better it needs a bit of set up to not be an asspull. Especially since the last chapter had the entire "we're leading by points so now Wally can run wild freely and have fun" thing going for it. Like that's the exact opposite set up for the pay off we're getting now. Setting up stamina consumption and the thin air in match would have made more sense from a structural point of view. This would have even added a bit of drama for Wally for those who actually care as it would have set up a time limit for him. But nope, no time limit exactly until the chapter where we've actually reached the same. What a hack of a writer Morikawa has become.
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HnI has gone on way too long. Morikawa has used up all his ideas.
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@Satsuki It's time for Ippo to become a pro wrestler.
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Maybe it's time to go MMA.
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I don't even get the point of the manga anymore. Ippo got strong, has a big schlong and met the woman of his life. What more could a man want. Just end it.
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Feels like he's doing a long deconstruction of sport manga tropes while at the same time doing the complete opposite. Like yeah brain damage is nothing to play around with, some times things aren't like the movies, y'know somber realism. But also here is a clearly superhuman monkey creature who bounces off the ropes and breaks all sense of realism. Pick a lane Morikawa
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It would be way more satisfying if Ricardo slowly chipped away until he found a breakthrough. Getting clowned for 4 rounds and then just flipping a switch because Wally is out of breath is not fun.
A bit of a throw-away development in the last two chapters: I don't like the fact that Ricardo's coach sucks. I guess that will be part of Ippo's triumph - strong relationship with the coach, people around him helping him out, yada yada yada. But the ultimate champion having a borderline useless corner is kinda lame.
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Eh, we don't know what their relationship was like when his coach first started training him as a youngster, but right now they don't seem to do much.
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@Spinx said in Hajime no Ippo:
I don't even get the point of the manga anymore. Ippo got strong, has a big schlong and met the woman of his life. What more could a man want. Just end it.
A rematch with his rival as professional boxers
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Way too short. And Volg once again is the voice of sanity in this weird fight.
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I'm gonna echo my statement from the last after break return chapter: this is insulting! Honestly better take a two week break if you cannot write a decent full chapter in a one week break period. But this nothing burger after a fourteen days drought is just bad.
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Another eleven page chapter yay!
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d49462ce-fdab-43f2-97e7-2b517555f019/1 -
If there's one thing Martinez has, it's experience. Something Wally doesn't have much of, even though he has more now than when he fought Ippo.
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Short chapter, but! Wally is getting pummeled, so I will gladly take it. Plus, at least it somewhat looks like boxing now. I wish such trading of blows had been mixed in with the monkey antics, it would have done a world of good.
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Honestly, that's probably what I'd tell Wally to do too.
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Hajime-No-Ippo-chapter-1406.htmlBut Martinez is also taking what is probably the right decision.
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But didn't he tell Wally to do this a few chapters ago already? I'm quite sure that this was the shift in Wally's approach after he took the lead by points. Or am I just remembering that wrong?
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Well, I'm glad Ricardo's happy.
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Ricardo getting fired up is really nice. I'm sure the fight will be ending within the next three chapters!
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I honestly don't the writing in this fight. Ricardo is only now, that Wally doesn't back down starting to feel some sort of excitement in hope of having found an opponent who could push him further than anyone did before? Why now and not when was actually hit, which is something that supposedly never happened so far? Why not when he was actually trying to figure out how to deal with Wally?
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Ew, Wally's got a bloody eye:
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Match still not done uh?
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The last panel makes me think it's almost there.
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Not having bothered to read the chapter i feel confident that island Poochie will pull a gasp nobody could do that instant turn around before it's over to really jerk out those last few drops of author wanking
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I would like to praise the fact that there was no bullshit acrobatics and rather the fighters going all out with Wally showing some guts. However I am so fatigued with this fight that I just want it to be over. Those personal feelings aside I goes this counts as an ok chapter in itself.
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Wally's message to Sendo makes me think that he expected to lose this match.
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I forgot already but when did pass Wally this message on to Ippo? Before or during that match?
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@Ivotas said in Hajime no Ippo:
I forgot already but when did pass Wally this message on to Ippo? Before or during that match?
He told him during the last break.
I assume this will end in this round - I'm a bit disappointed in Ippo's role. Aside from delivering a useless message, he didn't really do anything.
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@NightGrinder On the other hand, "he didn't really do anything" has been Ippo's dominant trait ever since retirement. We were at least prepared for it, more or less.
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Masterful inaction
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I'm starting to wonder if Ippo won't get back into the ring until Sendo has fought Ricardo, gotten beaten up horribly, and had to end his career. Will it take that much to get Ippo's spark re-lit?
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Hey, it worked for Rocky.
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@Satsuki So we would be in for another 2 years of "retirement". Duhrrh, not sure if I can withstand it
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My guess is that Ippo will indeed be waiting for Ricardo to defeat Sendou before he decides to get back in the ring. That or Wally makes Ippo realize that he misses fighting but I think Sendou is more likely.
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-Thank god i've been keeping in shape these last ten years so i can make my comeback
