Ow, okay. :) But then, it could be anything from 160 to 999 millions, hence "at least". I´think he would have got, and will, if Oda keeps the sidestory that is going on now moving the same way, get a bounty as something like 170.
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generally, when you say "at least double", i've always thought that it meant that its more than double but less than triple, at least this is my interpretation of the phrasing "at least double"…
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Hmm, yeah, maybe so. :D I think I usually think of it that way too. :P But maybe it works the other way to? :O Or am I wrong?
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Ok now I ll try to explain what I was thinking about these bountiesBounties are given to pirates because of their strenght, dangerousness, acts, or other things….
Lets focus on the strenght only:When Pirates are involved in battles they are seen by the WG and when a pirate wins against another pirate, a marine (or a CP-agent in this case), they can mesure his strenght and give him a bounty.
now CP-agents don t have bounties but to mesure their strenght they use douriki and the most powerful fighter of all the CPs is Lucci with a douriki of 4000 I think that you can translate it to 400mil B
Why? Just intuition from my part and also the fact that Luffy had some trouble with Blueno before he used Gear2 -> blueno=820douriki, Crocodile=81mil so that s why but feel free to criticizeSo If Luffy beats Lucci then you can say that he will get a bounty of 400mil B or higher and I don t think it s too much, cause Oda made it clear that from AoKiji on the strawhats had to face powerfull enemies, just like donflamingo and do not forget the SBS about crocodile, so donflamingo must have a far higher bounty now if he wasn t a shishibukai.
So my estimations:
Luffy = 400mil or higher
Zoro = 200mil or higher (if he beats Kaku)
Sanji = 60mil or higher (I dont think that his bounty will be higher than zoros, not because I think he s weaker but because I think he still needs to be underestimated so he can help his nakama when they are in a pinch like in alabasta)
Robin = I think the same (maybe with a recent picture)
Nami, Chopper and Ussop/Sogeking = I think they will get one but just one that reflects their acts and the fact that they are the enemies of the WG and maybe that their bounties will be added to their captainAnd I still have one thing to say:
@Ivotas:The proper answer from the WG would be to send troops out to destroy the invaders because that´s what they are there for.
Anything else but a direct response of the WG would only make the people lose faith in their government. If the security forces of the WG don´t move against the pirates what can random peasants do against them?
Just think of the real world. Some dude robs a bank and the police is there to stop him. But then this guy turns out much more dangerous then expected at first. What do you think would be the proper behaviour? Option a) call SWAT, the FBI and if that isn´t enough the national guard, or option b) place a bounty on his head and let random peasants deal with him?
Then why bother to make bounties in the first place? The marines, police, army must always try to capture criminals but that doesn t mean that they can not make a bounty maybe someone can help them to capture those enemies (even Binladen has a bounty, and don t tell me that the army isn t searching for him) the one don t exclude the other.
So I m finished I hope it was clear forgive me for my mistakes
and CIAO
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Then why bother to make bounties in the first place? The marines, police, army must always try to capture criminals but that doesn t mean that they can not make a bounty maybe someone can help them to capture those enemies (even Binladen has a bounty, and don t tell me that the army isn t searching for him) the one don t exclude the other.
Because there´s a big difference between countless regular criminals who commit crime and criminals that openly declare war on the system.
Again compare it to the real world. There´s small fry thieves and drug dealers. Some of them the police get´s some not. Help from the public is appreciated (when witnesses etc. are needed).
There´s also big ass criminals like mafia bosses. Even if it is clear that they are criminals they are not that easy to get because of the power they have.
These two kinds of criminals are yet however the same. They commit crime and if things are handled well, the hands of the law are tied to get them. However if some crazy criminals invade a police station or a government building and utterly destroy it, then there´s no chance in hell that all the security forces will hunt these guys down with all they got.
People who commit such a crime can´t be as easily protected by the law as the other kind of criminals so the Police, FBI or the military has a 100% go at them. Furthermore nobody would ask the general public to help them taking down criminals that were able to completely destroy a police building. Would you try to take confront criminals that took down countless police officers? I know I wouldn´t.
Oh and btw, welcome aboard. :happy:
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Thanks Ivotas.
Yeah I get your point, but if the SHs are able to escape and dissapear for a moment then the WG needs those high bounties to make the population alert that tose guys are soooo important and needs to be captured.
And I don t think that the WG are stupid enough to make all their forces pursue a little pirate crew, don t forget White beard and shanks behind them. -
Would someone get part of the reward if they were involved in catching the crimainal in any sort of way?
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Yeah I get your point, but if the SHs are able to escape and dissapear for a moment then the WG needs those high bounties to make the population alert that tose guys are soooo important and needs to be captured.
And I don t think that the WG are stupid enough to make all their forces pursue a little pirate crew, don t forget White beard and shanks behind them.I never said they are going to send their entire forces. I said that it is a Buster Call that awaits the Strawhats in the very near future. And you don´t put a bounty on the heads of someone you´ve just sent 10 battleships and 5 Vice Admirals to.
As Robin Stjernberg beautifully said, by sending the BC fleet to get them, the Strawhats are already dead in the eyes of the WG. Why bother giving new bounties for dead guys?
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Yep yep
you re totaly right Ivotas but
I hope our guys the StrawHats wouldn t be killed by that buster call
or else the end of this wonderfull manga will be a little too soon
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Yep yep
you re totaly right Ivotas but
I hope our guys the StrawHats wouldn t be killed by that buster call
or else the end of this wonderfull manga will be a little too soonIf I say the WG considers them dead because they send a Buster Call to deal with them, then it doesn´t mean that they will die. Every villian the Strawhats fought considered the Strawhats to be dead at the end of the fight. But once the fight was over, not only did the Strawhats survive but also they emerged victorious. With the Buster Call it won´t be any different. The WG will think that it will surely finish off the Strawhats once and for all, but in the end they will emerge victorious once more.
I think that they will receive their bounties when they are safe on their new ship and with a new crewmember sailing somewhere where the marine couldn t catch them.
Pretty unlikely seeing it that their course brings them closer and closer to the Marine HQ. But I agree that they will get a new bounty when the WG realizes that the Strawhats are safe even after they´ve confronted the Buster Call and Doflamingo.
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One thing on the Shanks-Buggy Captain bounty: What of inflation? It's entirely possible B21 million 10 years ago is worth 210 million today.
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Why would Nicos bounty go up?
i'm sorry if some one already replyit before… but i recon that robin bounty will go up is because after this arc she is probably the only one who know how to retrive the ancient weapon because franky has burn the blue print of pluton before. and if she is with pirate, it will be a really big threat for the goverment. therefore her bounty will defenately go up after this arc.... and for the bounty for luffy can probably will be higer than son flaminggo due to the threat that he make to the goverment. and if i'm not wrong, bounty is not determining some one strength but it show the threat that the pirate has to the goverment. so i think because of this luffy bounty will defenately goes up. not just because he beat the cp 9 but because what he do. and this probably willo be the same with his crew. they will most likely to get a bounty after this arc... my thought of their bounty:
luffy - 300,000,000
zorro - 180,000,000
robin - 280,000,000 (due to she is the only one who can awaken the ancient weapon)
sanji - 140,000,000
sogeking - 60,000,000 (this because he burned the govt. flag)
chopper - 30,000,000
nami - 30,000,000
franky - 60,000,000i dunno if this is right or not, just my own thought. you might think that 30m is a small bounty. but it isn't, considering it is a high bounty in the early chapter specially in east blue. before they go to green land. so i think for it is a reasonable bounty for nami and chopper.
(sorry for my bad grammar)
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I agree totally with the first part of your post gomu_gomu_man. And the WG probably will understand how much she means for the Strawhat clan, and how much they mean for her, and what they will do to save each others. She is not just a part of their crew, she is a close friend. Would Luffy want to revive the ancient weapons, the WG would probably shit their pants.
I think Sanji will get 120. He said - "My first bounty will be the double of yours" - or something like that, when he saw Zoro's bounty. Oda forshading all the way if you ask me. :P
I also agree that 30m is not a small bounty. It never is, how high bounty another person even may have doesn't matter. It's like saying 30 million dollars is not alot of cash just because Bill Gates have ALOOOOT more.
30m is a lot, 300 is freaking super much!
Also remember that Bellamy was really proud of his bounty, and it was "just" 51 millions. 30 and 50 is not that far of a stretch, and Bellamy probably had done a lot of small problems to the WG, adding them all together makes a big problem.
And the WG will probably also put some of the deads the Strawhat crew did on just the highest ranking ones of them, like Luffy and Zoro, just because they are in controll. -
Pretty unlikely seeing it that their course brings them closer and closer to the Marine HQ. But I agree that they will get a new bounty when the WG realizes that the Strawhats are safe even after they´ve confronted the Buster Call and Doflamingo.
they would have to confront Don flamingo first cause really how much of a threat could he one single man pose if they all ready had beaten the entire buster call fleet and vice admirals which is kind of the Second strongest unit in the Marine (the first being the 3 admirals)
and as such i think the buster call will be a fake/or spandam wont be able to use it due to him losing it or something clumsy like that or it will be called but it wont catch up with them until later on in the series preferebly after Kuma and Don flamingo have had their crack at the strawhats,
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they would have to confront Don flamingo first cause really how much of a threat could he one single man pose if they all ready had beaten the entire buster call fleet and vice admirals which is kind of the Second strongest unit in the Marine (the first being the 3 admirals)
Well we can´t for sure argue which one will come first but seeing it that Doflamingo and the New Era (represented by Bellamy back then) were introduced long long long before the term Buster Call ever appeared in One Piece I take it to be a far bigger construct then ten battleships that have five Vice Admirals on board.
Just because Vice Admirals are one rank below the greatest powers (the admirals) it doesn´t mean that their strenght´s come close to those likes of Aokiji & co. Just compare Saul to Kuzan. Both were Vice Admirals back then and Kuzan still raped Saul´s ass. And I seriously doubt that Saul was among the weaker Vice Admirals. I´m not saying the Vice Admirals consist of weaklings, but I seriously doubt that all of them are equally super strong. Just like Smoker is stronger then the avarage Marine HQ captain that could be the case for Vice Admirals.
And last but not least I take a Shichibukai to be worth more then Vice Admirals, since I take the Admirals be a part of the three powers which means they are on one level with the Shichibukai.
However, another one of my speculations is that the Buster Call and Doflamingo will actually somehow interact in the same arc. A vague guess is that Doflamingo will observe the Strawhat/Buster Call confrontation because of his interest in the Strawhats. Then he see´s that this promising crew takes down almost the entire fleet except for one ship which he deals with himself, as a gesture to express his interest for the Strawhats. Well, it´s a pretty vague and bad developed idea but something along those lines. There´s no way I could wrap that around as awesomely as Oda.
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of course one Shichibukai is stronger than one Vice-admiral you wont get any argument there but now it isnt just one vice-admiral but 5 of them and i think 5 vice-admirals togheter are far more of a threat than one shichibukai(who as far as we can guess is upper middle ranked out of them all)
i would consider it kinda of a let down if they fought with him after dealing with the buster call.
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Maybe the 2 giants friends of Sogeking will take care of the 5 ships included in the buster call strategie, kinda like Sauro in Ohahara (sp?) ^^ So it may not turn to be a real threat ^^
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Luffy + Zoro + Sanji + Franky + Robin + Usopp and you're worried about the 5 vice admirals?
Well, I'd be worried about those 5 vice-admirals too. Worried for their safety.
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Luffy + Zoro + Sanji + Franky + Robin + Usopp and you're worried about the 5 vice admirals?
Well, I'd be worried about those 5 vice-admirals too. Worried for their safety.
are you refering to me ? if you are then youve got it completly wrong my concern is not about whether they are gonne defeat the Buster call and the vice-admirals when ever they fight them,
its about that when they have defeat the buster call(if they do it straight away after this arc that is) isnt fighting a single shichibukai gonna be kinda of a step down after the enemy they just had like facing Arlong right after youve just fought Crocodile.
im having some problems with phrasing my concern i hope you get the point^^
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is it just me or is this discussion spiral'ing off topic :p :lol:
Ivotas brings up and interesting point about the bounties not being updated until after the strawhats defeat the Buster Call. I'm in agreement with this, i think if indeed the BC that Spandam has the authority to summon is for real, then the next question is how quickly does it take to assembly and reach it's target, i have no memory of it being mentioned before, but I could be wrong. Anyone know?
I don't know about the whole Doflamingo stuff though… truthfully, I'm hoping the strawhats don't have to fight all the members of the shichibukai, or if they do, i'm hoping that Oda will do some form of team-up, maybe Doflamingo and Kuma will be sent after the strawhats after the Buster Call is defeated, or if they escape EL, and the BC chases them... then Doflamingo and Kuma will be sent to slow down the strawhats... who knows.
Back on topic to the bounties. Whenever they get new bounties. I'm rooting for Luffy's to be about 500M... oh yeah!!! :biggrin:
Edit: forgot what else i wanted to say. should we start a new topic of discussion about the 3 great powers of the grand line, and how we would want to match up the ranks of the navy to that of the shichibukai? by this i mean.... is an admiral considered equal to one member of the shichibukai? how are the two powers (the 3 admirals and the shichibukai) even?
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are you refering to me ? if you are then youve got it completly wrong my concern is not about whether they are gonne defeat the Buster call and the vice-admirals when ever they fight them,
its about that when they have defeat the buster call(if they do it straight away after this arc that is) isnt fighting a single shichibukai gonna be kinda of a step down after the enemy they just had like facing Arlong right after youve just fought Crocodile.
Well Paulie already said what I wanted to say, but then agian it appears that this wasn´t your concern.
To get to the point, when I say Doflamingo then I don´t say him alone. He would just be the boss as much as Crocodile was the boss of a large organisation with the ultimate goal to not only take over a country but the entire world once Pluton is found.
Never forget the New Era Doflamingo is talking about. Going by the Bellamy Pirates it appears that everyone involved with this era is trying to assemble strong guys to join them. Who knows what guys Doflamingo has already around him. He treats Bellamy like a little dog, because he doesn´t need such weaklings. He said that himself. The defeat he got from Luffy probably showed Doflamingo that Bellamy isn´t that big as he expected him to be. That´s why he had no use for him.
But the question still remains what other guys Doflamingo has on his side. I for one think that Kuma is actually his partner. It just all fits together well. He is a priest and Doflamingo talks about this New Pirate Era. A Pirate Priest would actually be fitting since such a guy doesn´t seem to be that common in the OP world. Call it a complete whack intuition but I take Kuma to be to Doflamingo what Robin was to Crocodile.
And even if I´m wrong about Kuma. The point is that Doflamingo has something big and I mean really BIG in store. He doesn´t get introduced before Skypiea and afterwards shown again, to just become just the next best thing. I think everything about Doflamingo will be BIG. And to use a little gamers talk, I think that he will be the final boss of the first half of the Grand Line.
Well, to close the circle again. Doflamingo has been around for far longer then the Buster Call. This just screams gigantic build up for something great. I mean, he´s for almost 200 chapters the guy with the highest known bounty in One Piece so far. That´s more impressive then a fleet of ten identical ships of which we´ve already seen that they aren´t indestructable.
im having some problems with phrasing my concern i hope you get the point^^
I think I got it. Hopefully you was able to get mine, cause I feel I´ve been brabbling a lot again. :mellow:
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Didn't read through all the pages. sorry
However my thoughts on the subject.
I think that if everyone has a bounty the thing gets a little silly. Most of you suggested that luffy would get 250-300m, zoro about 120m, sanji around 100, and nami/sogeking/chopper from 50-70m. Also robin has her 79m bounty. adding this very rough estimation would give us 700m for a crew of 7 people which i find absurd considering that other pirates such as Don Kreig with his huge ammount of ships and crap and god knows how many pirates with a crew bounty of less than 20m.
True, luffy and co are stronger, however, if kreig or arlong had 17 and 20 respectively, i still don't cosider, say, name to be more dangerous (not stronger, dangerous)
Thus i cannot imagine them with such huge bounties.
I'd say luffy gets quite a few more, from 150-200, zoro, probably jumps up to maybe 80, robin, who has a bounty for something she didn't do probably won't get any more.
Other than that i'd say another (maybe 2 if franky joins) member(s) get a bounty, either sanji, for his train havoc, or sogeking for shooting the flag. Still i'd say sanji is the stealthy kind of guy, who never seems to get noticed, and sogeking, well, its not usopp :D.
Either case i'd say 40-50m tops
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I think you're missing two very important points about the potential for the strawhat bounties to become MUCH larger.
Don Kreig and Arlong were obviously not Great Pirates, and I believe that after the strawhats have demolished EL, and the BC, they'll be feared as great pirates by the world government and will attain high bounties. Don't forget what Kokoro said about Luffy.
Also, we don't know much about white-mustache (whitebeard) and red-hair shanks, but we know that rockstar was a fresh recruit and had a 94M bounty, that's nothing small, and i would expect that other members of shanks crew also have pretty high bounties, which would imply that the overall bounty for his crew is very large. Same goes for whitebeard consider he's listed as the strongest pirate.
So i would expect the strawhats to become great pirates as they enter the 2nd half of the grandline.
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I think it is safe to assume that Whitebeard, Ace, Shanks, Ben etc… have bounties in billions, if one of the new recruits in Shanks' crew has a bounty almost as high as Luffy.
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Nah I don´t think any of them has bounty in billions. Whitebeard will probably be close to it with guys like Shanks, Ace, Ben somewhere not far below that. I think that only Gold Roger had a bounty of one billion Belly so far. Just an assumption of mine.
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One billion would almost be to much if you ask me, whoever the person may even be. Like, who the hell would dare to attack that person? :P
But I agree that Whitebeard and some of his likes may be very near it.
Do not know if I have posted my theory about this before, but I think the OPworld current money isn't as much worth as the one for so to say 20 years ago (do not know the real word for the whole thing…). And that Roger had not a big bounty as Whitebeard and some other persons have now. That would give some more deept to the whole bounty thing.And remember WarcoW that a recruit does not mean that he is weaker or less of a treath. Look att Sanji, he joined after Usopp and Nami, and is stronger than the both of them.
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Well yea, but its hardly fair to compare a new recruit to someone like Sanji.
My take on that whole thing was Oda wanted us to start gasping at teh concept of just how powerfull Shanks really is and just how much of a threat he is to WG.
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A new recruit is someone who not long ago joined the crew. So, it's the exact same thing about Sanji and Rockstar.
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I do think that Rockstar´s bounty doesn´t even come close to the one of Shanks, Ben Beckman etc. The way how random Whitebeard Pirates didn´t even knew who he is just give me that impression.
However, I agree with what Robin Stjernberg said about you don´t have to be a weakling (neither in terms of strenght nor in terms of bounty amount) if you´re the newest addition to a team. Nico Robin is the best example for that. She still is the latest addition to the Strawhats and yet she has the second highest bounty of the crew on her head.
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Rockstar is just a clue from Oda to show us that Shanks' bounty is flipping high…the fact we don't know his bounty yet, is another clue as to how high it is, along with the fact the WG is scared of him and Whitebeard meeting..
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…the fact we don't know his bounty yet, is another clue as to how high it is, along with the fact the WG is scared of him and Whitebeard meeting..
That´s true. If Shanks bounty would be slightly higher then Doflamingo´s then Oda could already have shown it. Kuma has a bounty 44 million less then Doflamingo and yet it appears to be on the same level. So if Shanks would have 50 million more then Doflamingo it wouldn´t be such a big deal after all and the suspense would lead to no shocking revelation after all. It just has to be far above the currently highest known bounty in the series.
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That reminds me, I still want to know what it is that gave Kuma such a high bounty, Oda, let on nothing when we see him, except for the bible he is carrying, which makes me wonder about religion in one piece. I doubt it can be the same as ours, if it relates to the lost 100 years at all. Maybe Kuma's bounty comes from the fact he was close to disocvering the truth about the lost 100 years…damn, so many things still unanswered... :molly:
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Hmm, if there is a Bible and a Cross, there has to be (been) a Jesus. I wonder how Oda will connect it, if he even will do it.
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Hmm, sorry to bump such an old ass thread all of a sudden, but what do you all predict/hope the bounty pictures will look like for Chopper, Usopp and the others? I'm thinking Chopper will be in Walk Point looking somewhat serious and Sanji's will look like a bad mugshot.
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Hmm, if there is a Bible and a Cross, there has to be (been) a Jesus. I wonder how Oda will connect it, if he even will do it.
I doubt that. Bible is simply a term for a collection of sacred writings. I doubt the bible of the OP is the same as this worlds.
ANd as for Luffy's bounty. I can easily now see it probably reaching at least 300 million.
He's just done so much to get a huge bounty. Defeating Lucci will have a grraet influence in how big his bounty will be no doubt. The marines he defeared, blueno, declaring war on the WG and attack Enies Lobby. All that adds up to a pretty huge increase in my eyes. -
Luffy-270 mil
He defeated Blueno and eventually Lucci, and will probably take out Spandam, with the help of Robin, in the near future. He rushed into EL, declared war on the World Government, and is already a threat to the Government. With the destruction of CP9 and the Gears, Luffy's bounty will rocket.Zoro-130 mil
Taking out Kaku and Jyabura, two of the strongest CP9 members, will be huge. Sogeking is help, but not enough. He also took out all the Bounty Hunters at Whiskey Peak, and is another serious threat to the WG.Sanji-70 mil
Not nearly as high, because as of now, he hasn't done much of anything to anger the WG except beating Jerry, and simply being with the Mugiwaras. Kalifa took him out easily with his respect for women, but he's still powerful and dangerous.Nami-60 Mil
Don't argue, she will pwn Kalifa, but Perfect Clima Tact, plus her own strength, isn't quite enough to pose a serious threat. She's tough, and her alliance with the SH's will be taken into consideration, but she's not as dangerous as the others.Chopper-60 mil
Again, he's dangerous, but not as dangerous as some of the others. He can kill pretty much whoever he wants in Monster form, but I doubt he's willing to risk his life by eating 3 RBs every time a threat comes along. Strong, but not always willing to use that strength.Usopp-55 mil
Simply for using Oimo and Karsi to rampage through the crowd of marines, and burning down the WG flag. Not potentially deadly, but still a threat, and very anti-government.Robin-80 mil
Only a very slight increase. So far she hasn't done much to pose a threat to the government, but she, like Usopp, is very anti-government because of the Buster Call. Of course, if they find out she wasn't the cause of the Ohara incident, he bounty might actually decrease.Franky-70 Mil
No real explanation needed, just look at some of the others. If he joins the Mugiwaras, which we all know he will, his bounty is sure to increase. He dangerous, and very strong, so I see no reason for him not to get a bounty. -
Sanji will NEVER have a bounty as long as the show continues
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You give Zoro only a 70 million increase in bounty for defeating 2 of the top 3 strongest fighters of Cp9? [That is to say if he even fights Jayabura]
That Zoro bounty is unrealistic.
Zoro's bounty will be much higher. I'd say an increase by at least another 100 mill or so. Just for being part of the Pirate crew that declared war on the Government is enough now for them to get a bounty.Robins bounty will become even bigger now. She escapes, is part of the crew that declared war on the government and providing Franky is with them- is capable now, more then ever to ressurect the ancient weapons.
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I'm not too sure all the straw hats will get an (increased) bounty. Luffy will surely have a larger bounty after this, being the leader of the pirate gang that trashed Enies Lobby. Apart from that…
Zoro got his bounty for killing those 60 bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak. I wonder if the World Government somehow knew he acted on his own - the cap'n was sleeping when he decided to have a masacre. I guess it doesn't really matter, killing 60 people without breaking a sweat means you pose a thread.
But still, every bounty the Straw Hats got for something they did together went to the captain. And now they're dealing with CP9. Together. So I guess the bounty for killing of CP9, in part, should go to Luffy, regardless of who killed who.I guess Usopp should get a bounty too, though, having burnt the flag. And maybe for the rampage too. And also because aside from Luffy and Zoro, he's the only one who seeks power, really - finding All Blue or drawing a world map don't involve becoming strong per se. And in the One Piece-world power is measured by bounty.
Of course, this might piss off Sanji, who suddenly is second not only to Luffy and Marimo, but even to Usopp! Because, in my opinion, Sanji was pretty much the number three in the fighting, up until now. And he was already envious of Zoro's bounty.And maybe Spandam will somehow manage to put a price on Franky's head out of spite. He might even justify it to his superiors by telling them how he burnt the blueprints for Pluton - if they were aware of Spandams intentions. Of course this would never be the official reason for a bounty on Franky, as the world cannot know the World Government is trying to get a hold of those weapons for which they have killed thousands of lives, just to keep them out of the world. But they could make up some story.
Of course, there still is Chopper. He now has those 3 rumble balls which make him very dangerous. But if Kumadori is dead, then who is gonna tell it to the World Government? If nobody knows, nobody can fear the treath. So, just like Zoro and Nami, I don't think he will get a bounty. Just one of them Straw Hats who took down CP9.
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How did the Crew's bounties all go to the Captain? Luffy got his First Bounty for beating Arlong (at least that's what Nezumi told the WG) and he got his 100 mil for beating Crocodile.
TRUST ME, storming Enies Lobby and escaping is enough to get ANYONE'S Bounties up.
1: Zoro already has one, so if anyone sees him then they'll give him a higher bounty.
2:Calipha Saw Sanji and Nami.
3: Fukurou saw Franky and Chopper. so did Kumadori if he survives.
4: Kaku has a;ready threatened to arrest Usopp back in the Tom's Workers office, plus, they all saw him burn the WG flag.
5:and Robin has been Sentenced to DEATH and will most likely escape
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I think the bounties may depend on how much the world government is willing to admit to. In my opinion the CP9 may be finished after they failed to kill Iceberg. On top of that they (the WG) need to explain the buster call being used on they're own base.
If they choose to cover it up they may not increase the bounty much.
On the other hand due to the comments of the people with the straw hats the Marines may believe the crew is a lot bigger than it is. They may even believe that the giants have joined them. So you may end up with rumors of the Straw Hats having a 1000 men or something.
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they want the Strawhats, they will most likely increase the bounties and give some phoney reason for it.
for example: on the Official Record, Smoker Beat Crocodile, but that didn't stop them from Increasing Luffy's bounty a lot -
All I know is, Soge King will get a bounty, not Usopp.
And I think it'll work well have his code name become infamous
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There is NO WAY that Sanji isn't getting a bounty. Beating up a trainload of marines including the CP6 and CP7 leaders will give him anyone a bounty no matter how small it is. He also beat up enough random marines in Enies Lobby to warrant him one. Anyway, here's my predictions:
Luffy: 250 Million. He beat up a fuckload of marines (over 1000 according to chapter 386), took out two CP9 members (you know Lucci's going down) and well…broke into Enies Lobby to save a criminal in addition to being the Mugiwara (not to mention he declared war against the government). They'll have to survive the Buster Call so that's going to count for something. His bounty however, cannot surpass Bartholemew Kuma's, so I think it going to be 250 max.
Zoro- 150 Million. I doubt that the government measures the strength of the individual CP9 members so I doubt the fact that Kaku is the second strongest counts for anything but it'll definately raise his bounty. It'll mainly go up because he's the infamous "Pirate Hunter" (that alone, coupled with the size of his last bounty would shoot it up considerably) but we can't forget the "little" things like defeating T-Bone and a bunch of marines.
Nami - 80 Million. Sounds a little high? Keep in mind that all CP9 members are probably regarded as equally threatning so beating Calipha won't be taken lightly. She also took out a couple marines and was present at Enies Lobby as "a main fighter" (remember?) which in itself would warrant a bounty
Usopp- 100 Million. I'm dead serious. If you look at all the things Sogeking's done objectivley, he would come off as a pretty menacing and destructive individual. He deafeted (or rather will defeat) a CP9 member, owned the guy who kept badgering Iceburg, turned Enies Lobby's strongest guards (two giants from Elbaf who served the marines for 50 years, no less) against the government and burned down the flag of the marines declaring war. You may think "Oh yeah, Usopp…" but in the eyes of the government he'd be seen as heavy-hitter and a very dangerous person.
Sanji - 120 Million. Sanji wouldn't have said "When I get a bounty, it'll be twice the size of yours" if Oda didn't intend to give him just that. And for all you naysayers, he's most definately getting one, as he's already hauled some ass on Puffing Tom (an incident completely independent of Enies Lobby). Plus, it would be completely silly if Nami or Usopp had a higher bounty than him and you know it. Although many will disagree with me, I strongly believe he'll own Spandam and Funkfried which would DEFINATELY shoot his bounty up (remember that Spandam is the director of the highest Cipher Pol agency). He's going to become famous for this…
Chopper- 100 Million. Before 408, I was very sure that Chopper was going to be sitting at Nami's bounty, but now that the marines have seen Kumadori (a CP9 member) violently fly from the Tower Of Justice to the Courtyard, he'll DEFINATELY get taken seriously from now on. If they ever catch sight of Monster Chopper in action, it might go up just a little bit higher.
Robin- 160 Million. I know it sounds a bit high, but bare in mind that what she's about to do has never been attempted (escape Enies Lobby upon being captured, survive a Buster Call). The fact that she's Nico freaking Robin and she'll be shipmates with Cutty Flam will also make a pretty big difference.
Franky- 140 Million. Beating two CP9 members, being Cutty Flam, burning the blueprints to Pluton, joining the Strawhat Pirates and ESCAPING as a prisoner at Enies Lobby is pretty fucking heavy. I feel I should give him a higher bounty (around 170 mil) but I honestly couldn't see him getting a higher bounty than Zoro…
Lord knows what the Franky Family and Galley-la are getting...
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My estimates are pretty much the same as Geese's, except for Chopper. I feel he'll get a three-digit bounty if they see his monster form. If they don't base it off Chopzilla, I'd say he'll get around the same as Nami.
As for Robin and Franky, I'd say they'd either get a ridiculously high bounty, or not an average one. Depends if the WG will still see Robin as a threat individually, or if she's a collaborator with the SHs. First case, they'll skyrocket it to around Luffy's range (200-250 million). Second case, a marginal increase to around 90 million. I'd like to lump Franky along with Robin, but somehow, I just can't see the Government taking him as seriosuly as Robin. They haven't till now and I don't see why they should. I give him a 90 million as well. Spandam was obsessed with the Pluton plans…the old men just don't want anyone to have it. They seem happy enough without it.
As for the rest...apart from Zanbai and Paulie, I don't see why they would put a bounty on anyone else. Zanbai and Paulie might get something very moderate, like 5-10 million. After all, they probably came off as the third tier Strawhats, the guys who are directly responsible for the grunts, but left out of the important stuff.
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@Robot:
Nami-60 Mil
Don't argue, she will pwn Kalifa, but Perfect Clima Tact, plus her own strength, isn't quite enough to pose a serious threat. She's tough, and her alliance with the SH's will be taken into consideration, but she's not as dangerous as the others.I agree with your point. Then again 60 mil is way too high. It's like Zoro's first bounty. I think around 20 mil suffices, if she ever gets a bounty. I like this amt in particular because that was Arlong's bounty way back then.
@Robot:
Chopper-60 mil
Again, he's dangerous, but not as dangerous as some of the others. He can kill pretty much whoever he wants in Monster form, but I doubt he's willing to risk his life by eating 3 RBs every time a threat comes along. Strong, but not always willing to use that strength.Although what you say is true, becos Oda tells us, would the govt find out that much abt Chopper, esp the part that he's not that willing to risk his and other's life by taking 3 rb? That would depends on whether they can find out abt rb in the first place. I get the impression that rb is the result of Chopper's own research and nobody else, other than Sanji, Luffy & Kureha knows abt it. My estimate for him would be 100 mil.
@Robot:
Robin-80 mil
Only a very slight increase. So far she hasn't done much to pose a threat to the government, but she, like Usopp, is very anti-government because of the Buster Call. Of course, if they find out she wasn't the cause of the Ohara incident, he bounty might actually decrease.Robin's case was special. We found out that her bounty was unrelated to her strength, rather it was the threat she posed to the govt, as long as she was alive. She would get ridiculous amt again. I mean 79 mil for an 8 year old was ridiculous to begin with.
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For Nami and Chopper around 40-50 million would be a good starter bounty. Ever since Chopper royally owned whats his name?..umm Kumadori- i've rated him alot highly.
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How did the Crew's bounties all go to the Captain? Luffy got his First Bounty for beating Arlong (at least that's what Nezumi told the WG) and he got his 100 mil for beating Crocodile.
He had his nakama take down the henchmen in both occasions, as he's doing now. And I just think it's too unreal for the Straw Hats to have a combined bounty of 800 to 1000 million.
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I stated this before and the last chapter sems to make me believe more firmly in it. I think that luffy and zoro will get higher bounties and that most 2 new members will get bounties. considering there is a buster call coming in 30 mins i think that the last thing people are gonna care about is trying to grab photos of the bad guys. everyone will be too panic stricken/dead to care about assigning bounties after having one of the government's largest bases destroyed. All fault will go to Luffy and "his crew" and to show that they are making progress they will assign a couple of more to random individuals, probably sogeking and chopzilla (or unrecognizible glistening sanji) to make it funnier ;)
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All the bounty posters will be interesting, to say the least. Of course they will all be original, too. My prediction, now at least, is that the Straw-Hats will finish up with CP9 and then beat down Spandam. Next will be them destroying the Buster Call, or at least taking one or two of the ships out, and Spandam on the Denden Mushi scared out of his mind screaming, "Get me the Gouressai on the line!!!!!"