"Flying Six" is a weird translation to me because it loses its meaning despite being the literal translation. It sounds random, because you can't figure out why they're called that since they can't fly, lol.
Because they surpass all the other headliners and "fly" above them. :ninja:
In german you would say "Überflieger".
German really has a word for everything
You have no idea. 
"Flying Six" is a weird translation to me because it loses its meaning despite being the literal translation. It sounds random, because you can't figure out why they're called that since they can't fly, lol.
Until someone tells you that "Tobi Roppo" is part of the spectacle of a Kabuki play (it's a style of walk). Then it makes sense that Oda is following a theme of naming Kaido's forces as entertainers (Headliners, Lead Performers, Tobi Roppo). That's why the brazilian official translator calls them something like "The Six Magnanimous" (in portuguese) to fit the theme better.
To me Flying Six always fit, because I saw it as a circus thing, like the artists in the big trapeze act meters above the ring.
Regarding the upcoming color pages, I think there are three possibilities.
1. The whole crew + Jinbe: Well-deserved, nothing odd about it.
2. The whole or partial crew without Jinbe: Very weird.
3. Partial crew + Jinbe: Kinda weird.
The first one would be what we've all expected would happen once Jinbe joined the crew. The last two color spreads, however, left him out. Could be they were planned further back before his return, but if the next one comes and he's still left out, I think something's up.
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We've seen that every time the straw have a big battles Oda does a unique thing he's only done four times a cover without Luffy on it and just The villains
There was Baroque Works, CP9, Doflamingo Pirates and The Big Mom pirates
I assume that Kaido's crew will also get one
The reason I say this is because after each of those volumes the next Volume after he does one with the Straw Hats and there allies Mirroring there enemies stances
So who do you think will be on the ally cover? and will that show us who might join? I mean on the CP9 one they showed Franky, and I think they made it clear who was part of the SH's and who was part of the grand fleet on the vs doflamingo cover, but then again they had the camel eyelashes on the Baroque Works cover, who's not a member, and I'm not even sure if they had a crew shot after the big mom one like the others had
what do you think will that cover show us who's a straw hat and who's just an ally?
and I guess there'd be no harm in guessing who makes the cut on the Kaido Pirates cover (Kaido, the Three Calamities and the flying six will def be on there I assume)
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I feel like you're overanalyzing those covers. It's just showing the good guys taking part in the fight in a way that Oda thinks makes a good cover. It'll be Straw Hats, most likely the Scabbards and supernovas, and maybe a few minks and WB pirates. There's no hidden message suggesting anyone on such a cover will be the next Straw Hat.
I think Shift is talking about Chapter color page not Volume one
Next chapter will have a color page
I don't see why having no Jinbei would be weird considering he was not on the previous one. For me the only logical moment considering this messing issue would be that Oda includes him after his joining party which will not happen anytime soon
I think Shift is talking about Chapter color page not Volume one
Next chapter will have a color page
I don't see why having no Jinbei would be weird considering he was not on the previous one. For me the only logical moment considering this messing issue would be that Oda includes him after his joining party which will not happen anytime soon
Right, I did mean both the color spread and the cover of SJ.
But I consider the whole situation weird. No good reason to keep Jinbe out of Wano in the first place, and no good reason to hold back his toast. He got his Oda box with his SH helmsman title, so it's not like he's not actually official. There's simply no good reason to keep him off now.
The only reason I see is because of the paradox it would introduce if he and the whole crew were there and Carrot, or whoever joins in Wano, isn't there. It certainly could happen, of course. But I think it'll be telling if he's still excluded even after all this, or even if he's in one with only part of the crew
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Going to start this by admitting that I haven't yet managed to hone in on the appropriate pronouns to use for Yamato - will probably need another chapter or two to get a feel for how s/he carries him/herself now that the mask has been dropped.
With that out of the way, while I feel it's too early to jump to any real conclusions about his/her Nakama-hood, I'm not going to lie…Yamato was given one of the strongest introductions I've seen in quite a while. One-shotting Ulti, however briefly, and going toe-to-toe with Luffy (even if neither were really going all out) speaks volumes about Yamato's combat ability, implying s/he'd be among the crew's heavy-hitters if s/he joined, and I adore the character's overall design. The connection with Ace is also an interesting element I'm curious to explore.
Yamato's long-term goals and motivations is where we need the most clarification, I feel. In the immediate sense, it seems clear that s/he intends to join in the "festivities" on Luffy's side, but once the battles are over and s/he is presumably aware of the survival of Momonosuke and the Akazaya Nine as well as the fact that they share Yamato's goal of opening Wano's borders, the question becomes whether s/he needs to stay to give support to the newly-reformed Kozuki Shogunate or feels s/he can step back and let Oden's son/retainers handle the border situation and perhaps turn his/her attention to other pursuits, such as exploring the world and seeking out answers to mysteries Oden's journal alluded to.
Another idea that popped into my head is that Yamato joining the Strawhats adds an interesting wrinkle to the "how to defeat Kaidou" question. While I certainly have confidence that Kaidou will be defeated in battle during this arc and his base of power on Wano decimated, at the end of the day he is still a Zoan, known for incredible stamina and recuperative ability, and is personally noted for his supreme ability to shrug off damage - which is to say that, unless he is killed outright (which is dubious, because Oda), I don't know that we can ever really consider Kaidou fully "out of the game", at least as an individual. But ultimately, I don't know that Kaidou needs to be killed so long as he can be given a reason to leave Wano for good... Perhaps having his kid "stolen" out from under his nose (kind of like Linlin's grievance re: Zeus) and going out to sea with what remains of his crew to chase after the no-good punks that did it? It may even tie in to something he's already planning, if the New Onigashima Project is about relocating the Beast Pirates' base of operations.
All that said, still too early to rush to judgment. And I'm still not convinced that we're done with Carrot either. Wouldn't be against getting two new Strawhats at once - Jinbe already counts, as far as I'm concerned.
Then the return of Vivi as part of Elbaf, methinks.
She identifies as Oden, otherwise she's female and doesn't want to be a man, she wants to be Oden who happened to be a man.
So for me it's clearly she.
It's complicated by the fact that she refers to herself as 'Kaido's son' despite the Odabox saying otherwise.
It's more indicative that Yamato wants to be referred to as a male, despite knowingly being female.
Yamato is "he" for me until we see more of him/her. His natural gender was revealed in the last page we ever got. Let's wait until he/she has more screentime to see how it goes.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
I'm going to be using she until otherwise. If someone wants to use He, she, or they then I believe it's okay as well.
Yamato's character is more of a LARPing case simply because she identifying and emulating Oden.
Yamato is "he" for me until we see more of him/her. His natural gender was revealed in the last page we ever got. Let's wait until he/she has more screentime to see how it goes.
Pretty much this for me as well, though in my case both feel right for different reasons…
Only reason I brought it up was to explain the copious number of "s/he", "him/her", "his/hers", etc. in my post, because I couldn't figure out a way to write it coherently while avoiding pronouns.
Usually I don't really post my thoughs about this topic, but Yamato's introduction has made things interesting.
As I don't think anyone would join following this arc if he/she is not on the ship when leaving Wano, right now the only ones I see with options are Carrot and Yamato.
For me Yamato's intruduction has been nakama-worthy. However my support for her depends on the following chapters, right she is a blank canvas:
She can join the crew? Yes, but I can also imagine her...
... staying in Wano to help restore it
... or forming her own pirate crew (in this case I hope she recruits Ulti and PageOne... ), and even join the Grand Fleet without being a SH
... or something else (she may be using Luffy to find/achieve something that she read in Oden's diary, or to escape from daddy's clutches)
On the other hand, even though as a mink I preferred Pekoms, I have to admit that Carrot has an interesting personality (goofy girl, adventurous) and combat style (electro, brawler, thar "float" thing)
And she has been travelling with the SH for quite some time, so her joining at the end of the arc would not eclipse Jimbe's joining celebration.
What I don't like about her is her design: the name is... simple, and her appearance is rather plain.
I think I'll wait several chapters before deciding my vote between those two and "none".
I have to say though, no matter who the next crewmate is (whether we get one or not), Oda really knows how to push the fanbase's buttons by introducing characters that spur theories and discussions with no end.
I somehow doubt that Yamato will insist on being referred to as male now that she has revealed herself. I'd be great if she did though.
There's a part of me that hopes this never gets a satisfactory answer and everyone calls Yamato something different based on their personal relationship with him/her.
Strawhat Recruitment Interviewer: "So, Yamato, what are your preferred pronouns?"
Yamato: "Yes."
Strawhat Recruitment Interviewer: "…**** it, we'll figure it out as we go."
Call her Oden, I think everybody would be fine with that.
We've seen that every time the straw have a big battles Oda does a unique thing he's only done four times a cover without Luffy on it and just The villains
There was Baroque Works, CP9, Doflamingo Pirates and The Big Mom pirates
I assume that Kaido's crew will also get one
The reason I say this is because after each of those volumes the next Volume after he does one with the Straw Hats and there allies Mirroring there enemies stances
So who do you think will be on the ally cover? and will that show us who might join? I mean on the CP9 one they showed Franky, and I think they made it clear who was part of the SH's and who was part of the grand fleet on the vs doflamingo cover, but then again they had the camel eyelashes on the Baroque Works cover, who's not a member, and I'm not even sure if they had a crew shot after the big mom one like the others had
what do you think will that cover show us who's a straw hat and who's just an ally?
and I guess there'd be no harm in guessing who makes the cut on the Kaido Pirates cover (Kaido, the Three Calamities and the flying six will def be on there I assume)
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I've pointed out before that on Volume 88, Carrot is in the mirror shards like the other Straw Hats (Nami, Carrot, Brook, Jimbei, and Sanji), while the allies (Pudding, Capone, and Chiffon) are in the background. If we're going to point to the next set of ally covers and Carrot is present again, maybe people will take her more seriously? Using the volume 88 cover as a small part of a larger argument was not received well by those who are in disagreement.
Didn't the volume 91 cover pretty decisively end that argument forever? If you're going to use 88 as proof for Carrot, then 91 is even stronger proof for Tama. She's the ONLY guest character in an all-strawhat cover.
Or, going back to the Baroque Works one, are you saying Eyelashes the camel is a Strawhat?
Personally don't see Tama or Carrot joining, but at least Tama does have stuff going for her
I'm not ONLY using the volume 88 cover; I included it as a part of a larger argument. It's not a smoking gun. Just a little thing to say 'hey, this combined with other factors makes her a viable candidate'
I don't think vol 91 and 88 are comparable. A better counter would be to say Eyelash is on the cover of volume 21 or that Law and members of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet are on the cover of volume 78.
As I said, it's not definitive, just something interesting. It's not simply the fact that Carrot is on the cover but that there seems to be a distinction in placement with Straw Hats in mirror fragments and friends / allies in the monochrome background. If Carrot doesn't join, she'd be an outlier on that cover.
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I'm not ONLY using the volume 88 cover; I included it as a part of a larger argument. It's not a smoking gun. Just a little thing to say 'hey, this combined with other factors makes her a viable candidate'
I don't think vol 91 and 88 are comparable. A better counter would be to say Eyelash is on the cover of volume 21 or that Law and members of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet are on the cover of volume 78.
As I said, it's not definitive, just something interesting. It's not simply the fact that Carrot is on the cover but that there seems to be a distinction in placement with Straw Hats in mirror fragments and friends / allies in the monochrome background. If Carrot doesn't join, she'd be an outlier on that cover.
Carrot's just part of the Sanji's retrieval team, of which Pedro was part of too and appeared in previous covers, it just so happens that Pedro was gone by then and all others are allies, which I believe is the one distinction Oda was making there.
Otherwise, is not as much of a strong cover, considering only half the crew is there, and we do have the other half of the crew posing with other allies in Dressrosa, even Elizabello who's not even part of the Grand Fleet.
That's why Tama crushes Carrot in that sense, she has a shot with the full crew for whatever reason, even tho we now know, Komachiyo was going to be there too, and while we have Eyelashes and such, we still can avoid noting that Franky and Jinbro got heroes team covers way before they joined.
So yeah, until Carrot gets a shot with the full crew, she's really just one more of the bunch of allies who have shared regular covers.
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Call her Oden, I think everybody would be fine with that.
she must do Oden's disgusted face and die boiling to deserve that title.
I'm not saying that because of Carrot. My conviction of Pedro's death is at least three times bigger than my belief of Carrot's recruitment. They're mostly separate things and that's why I never mentioned Carrot at all.
Wow! You really want Pedro to be dead but fair enough. You didn't bring up Carrot. But I wonder, if Pedro comes back, do you still believe Carrot will be a Strawhat crewmate?
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And yet none of your examples refute my argument since not a single one of those characters had their deaths hammered by many different chapters reminding us of its fatality.
Btw, on the contrary, most of your examples were completely open to different outcomes even while they were happening, like (a) Mon't Dor pulling some shenanigans to save Moscato,
Moscato lost 40 years of his life! He is lucky to be alive. So yeah shenanigans!
(b) Pekoms was was not framed as dead but only his eyes were supposedly ripped out to stop Sulong,
IRL, Pekoms should be dead. If Pekoms can be "just blinded" by a swing from a scythe to his face, then surviving an explosion isn't out the realm of possibilities.
even Pound was cut by Oven but not necessarily assassinated and then his supposed death was never mentioned again, not even mourned.
Pound being alive makes no sense without an explanation that hopefully is incoming soon. Even if Oven missed the initial killing blow, Oven could follow up with a more precise slice. Oven was pretty angry. I don't see why he wouldn't finish the job unless hmm… maybe Pound fell into the sea on the initial non-fatal cut.
I was always open to these characters being alive, not because I wanted to, but because it's typical of Oda to do fake deaths. The same with Pedro soon after it happened. However, it started to feel different with Pedro when Oda couldn't stop repeating that he was dead and making a big deal out if it.
You're totally entitled to believe that Pedro is alive. It's not impossible. But I think it would be wise to recognize that this is not a normal case like many others.
Pell was the original sin. Nobody ever since could match him because Pell was the first one, the guy who set the precedent. Nonetheless, Pedro would be the next level because of how much Oda milked his death after the fact itself.
I cannot refute that Oda is handling deaths in the New World differently, in particular Pedro's. What I'll imply is that death in One Piece, to named characters NOT in a flashback of AT LEAST some importance, is a rarity. Whitebeard and Ace are the special cases. I believe Oda planned to kill Ace within one year of serialization but I may be misremembering. Plus Oda isn't fond of killing off characters stemming from Rei being his favorite Fist of the North Star. And Pedro is one of my favorites. So spare Pedro, Oda!
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Didn't the volume 91 cover pretty decisively end that argument forever? If you're going to use 88 as proof for Carrot, then 91 is even stronger proof for Tama. She's the ONLY guest character in an all-strawhat cover.
Or, going back to the Baroque Works one, are you saying Eyelashes the camel is a Strawhat?
Even you said that vol 64 with everyone and Jinbe actually meant something. They don't count as firm evidence, no, but there's no reason to discount all covers completely, either.
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That volume also had the the entire volume and story context actual chapter title going for it, "10 vs. 10,000". The whole "strawhats vs." thing that has come up for the big battles. It wasn't JUST the cover.
Same with the Strawhats vs. CP9 spread that had Franky in it.
And again, Vivi is an official Strawhat, but Carue and Eyelashes aren't, and that's absolutely a vs. cover showcasing the crew. And we've actually seen Oda's process on the 91 cover which was originally going to have more characters, so we know his intent on that one wasn't originally just to include Tama. so generally it really, really doesn't mean much.
But when the chapter title says "this is the group", the immediate action has only those characters fighting, and then the volume title, AND the volume cover re-emphasizes the same thing?
It meant something because the entire volume was built around it.
Moscato lost 40 years of his life! He is lucky to be alive. So yeah shenanigans!
There's nothing so complicated about Moscato's situation. Pedro lost 50 years of his life and was still alive. Moscato lost 40. And besides that we don't know if it's possible to give people their soul back. I've mentioned Mon't Dor shenanigans because in the next chapter he was talking to one of those "soul collectors" as if he was asking them to retrieve every last second of Moscato's life.
IRL, Pekoms should be dead. If Pekoms can be "just blinded" by a swing from a scythe to his face, then surviving an explosion isn't out the realm of possibilities.
Are we going from "people don't die in OP" to "IRL Pekoms should be dead"? I don't know if Pekoms should be dead IRL and I'm not even sure about his wounds, but the standard of durability is certainly different in OP. It's not based on strictly on damage that I understand death in OP. It never crossed my mind that Pekoms should be dead because it was never mentioned in the story, not even heavily implied.
Pound being alive makes no sense without an explanation that hopefully is incoming soon. Even if Oven missed the initial killing blow, Oven could follow up with a more precise slice. Oven was pretty angry. I don't see why he wouldn't finish the job unless hmm… maybe Pound fell into the sea on the initial non-fatal cut.
Pound being alive is bad, but mostly because of the tone of the writing for his "goodbye". But as to why Oven didn't finish his life is a debatable point to me.
I cannot refute that Oda is handling deaths in the New World differently, in particular Pedro's. What I'll imply is that death in One Piece, to named characters NOT in a flashback of AT LEAST some importance, is a rarity. Whitebeard and Ace are the special cases. I believe Oda planned to kill Ace within one year of serialization but I may be misremembering. Plus Oda isn't fond of killing off characters stemming from Rei being his favorite Fist of the North Star. And Pedro is one of my favorites. So spare Pedro, Oda!
Deaths are obviously rare in OP. It's never the first option. Pedro just stands out.
That volume also had the the entire volume and story context actual chapter title going for it, "10 vs. 10,000". The whole "strawhats vs." thing that has come up for the big battles. It wasn't JUST the cover.
Same with the Strawhats vs. CP9 spread that had Franky in it.
And again, Vivi is an official Strawhat, but Carue and Eyelashes aren't, and that's absolutely a vs. cover showcasing the crew. And we've actually seen Oda's process on the 91 cover which was originally going to have more characters, so we know his intent on that one wasn't originally just to include Tama. so generally it really, really doesn't mean much.
But when the chapter title says "this is the group", the immediate action has only those characters fighting, and then the volume title, AND the volume cover re-emphasizes the same thing?
It meant something because the entire volume was built around it.
Robby I see you haven't voted yet, is there a character your on the fence about?
Carrot and Tama are docked points, in my book, by sharing similar names to other people in the series. Same thing would apply to Pudding if she was still a candidate.
Yamato would be my current pick but I don't see how Yamato would fit in the crew. Not enough is known like what would Yamato's role be? Journalist? Nope, not feeling it. Oni? Can that even be considered a role? Probably not.
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Only other "Carrot" I remember was one of the Usopp Pirates in Syrup Village, and even then his name was actually "Ninjin" in the original Japanese version.
And I can't think of any other characters named "Tama", unless we're counting quasi-adjacent names like "Baron Tamago" against her…
There's nothing so complicated about Moscato's situation. Pedro lost 50 years of his life and was still alive. Moscato lost 40. And besides that we don't know if it's possible to give people their soul back. I've mentioned Mon't Dor shenanigans because in the next chapter he was talking to one of those "soul collectors" as if he was asking them to retrieve every last second of Moscato's life.
Moscato is 40 years old. 40 years removed means he is technically 80 years which is slightly younger than Pedro at 82. The mighty Whitebeard died at 72. Yes he was murdered but he was not in good health prior to his demise. Moscato was knocking on Death's Door. Moscato is lucky.
We don't know how much life the "soul collectors" got for Moscato per Mon't Dor's request. Besides those collectors work for Big Mom not book man. I doubt they gave all 40 years back to Moscato. Big Mom is greedy by nature. Moscato would be lucky to get 5 years back.
Are we going from "people don't die in OP" to "IRL Pekoms should be dead"? I don't know if Pekoms should be dead IRL and I'm not even sure about his wounds, but the standard of durability is certainly different in OP. It's not based on strictly on damage that I understand death in OP. It never crossed my mind that Pekoms should be dead because it was never mentioned in the story, not even heavily implied.
It's a sharp object getting swung at a seemingly defenseless face. Does someone have to exclaim Pekoms is dead in the manga for you to believe in the possibility!? I don't recall Pekoms being brought up again afterwards. If so, someone may have mentioned him in passing once or twice. But that would be it. Monet got "stabbed" in the heart. Vergo blew up in a factory while in pieces. Alive? Dead? Up in the air. I believe that by using fake deaths in the narrative, Oda is setting up a huge surprise for the audience so the misdirection is key. But idk. I've got high hopes.
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I was editing my previous message to rephrase about the names statement. Tama shares a name with a pet sphinx.
And both Kyaratto and Ninjin mean the same thing in English. Point is Oda would put some thought into each Strawhats name. Unless this is foreshadowing, I don't see why anyone would share a name with the protagonists.
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Moscato is 40 years old. 40 years removed means he is technically 80 years which is slightly younger than Pedro at 82. The mighty Whitebeard died at 72. Yes he was murdered but he was not in good health prior to his demise. Moscato was knocking on Death's Door. Moscato is lucky.
We don't know how much life the "soul collectors" got for Moscato per Mon't Dor's request. Besides those collectors work for Big Mom not book man. I doubt they gave all 40 years back to Moscato. Big Mom is greedy by nature. Moscato would be lucky to get 5 years back.
As you can see, we don't know nothing about the circunstances. We don't know Moscato's total lifespan and there's no point in predicting if his natural death would be at 100 years old or 70 years old. We don't know how the soul collectors work and if you can get your soul back. We don't know why else Mon't Dor was talking to the soul collectors. So Moscato's death was completely open-ended and foreshadowed to be solvable soon after it happened. And it's One Piece.
It's a sharp object getting swung at a seemingly defenseless face. Does someone have to exclaim Pekoms is dead in the manga for you to believe in the possibility!? I don't recall Pekoms being brought up again afterwards. If so, someone may have mentioned him in passing once or twice. But that would be it. Monet got "stabbed" in the heart. Vergo blew up in a factory while in pieces. Alive? Dead? Up in the air. I believe that by using fake deaths in the narrative, Oda is setting up a huge surprise for the audience so the misdirection is key. But idk. I've got high hopes.
For example, Pekoms could just use his turtle ability to shrink his head inside his shell to avoid being hit. We didn't see what happened or the consequence of the swing.
But it's not the vagueness or ambiguity of the scene that makes my point.
Instead, it's the complete lack of mention of his death. Oda won't kill a character so casually without addressing it or creating drama or making it have an impact on the other characters. That's one of the reasons that set him apart from Pedro.
Yamato is absolutely not going to join.
They're going to serve the same purpose for the Beast pirates as Katakuri is for the BM pirates. As strawhat allies in the endgame that are going to command any of the remnants of their respective crews after Big Mom and Kaido are permanently defeated.
They're going to serve the same purpose for the Beast pirates as Katakuri is for the BM pirates. As strawhat allies in the endgame that are going to command any of the remnants of their respective crews after Big Mom and Kaido are permanently defeated.
Sorry I never got this and every time I see it makes me think do people not see the differences:
An even what little we have seen of Yamato seems like he would want nothing to do with her Beast Pirates and see the big difference between his potrayl to the beast pirates to even the first stuff with Katakuri top WCI lets not even get into the portrayl of said crews like nothing about the Beast Pirates come off as redeemable or like Hachi like unlike various members of the Charlottes who showed there is more to them as all of the Beast pirates.
I'm not even really trying to argue for Yamato but this idea he will lead the beast pirates or be put into the same breath as the allies and such the Strawhats have within the Charlottes are just baffling as it just ignores the context between the two crews there ain't no Pudding or Hachi in the Beast Pirates, well that and the old systems of power that have held up the world are breaking down.
Robby I see you haven't voted yet, is there a character your on the fence about?
Pretty much no one at present. Yamato has the best entrance in ages and immediate interesting personality quirks and backstory, and I could almost get on board with that but the severe Nami-face gives me major doubts.
If we see her in color and the hair color is red, white, or purple that might push me over, combined with whatever the upcoming chapters give us.
I was editing my previous message to rephrase about the names statement. Tama shares a name with a pet sphinx.
And both Kyaratto and Ninjin mean the same thing in English. Point is Oda would put some thought into each Strawhats name. Unless this is foreshadowing, I don't see why anyone would share a name with the protagonists.
As I understand it, "Tama" is a highly common pet name, something akin to "Spot" for English readers, and as inconsequentially minor a character as Tama the Sphinx is, I feel that holding that commonality against O-tama is…dubious, at best. There are a number of factors that make Tama unlikely in my book, but her name isn't one of them.
As to Carrot/Ninjin, I am aware that their names mean the same thing, but that is not the same as them sharing a name. While not quite the same situation, the name "Peter" has many different variations around the world - "Pierre" and "Pedro", just to name a couple - despite sharing the same etymological roots. Momentarily setting aside the fact that I fully believe him to be dead, are Pedro's chances diminished by the existence of "Peterman" (the guy who kidnapped Camie) on Sabaody and Gan Fall's bird-horse from Skypeia?
And why is it that you assume Oda hasn't put thought into Carrot's name? Names are allowed to be simple and her name could very well be an intentional callout to the Dragonball Son Goku's birth name of Kakarot (also derived from "Carrot"), since she was the first Mink to demonstrate Sulong, which has parallels to the Saiyans' Oozaru form.
Nami is the Dragonball/ JTTW homage. She makes clones, has a staff, and a flying cloud.
Oh I agree, but multiple characters can draw inspiration from the same source. :p
Nami will get Sulong so we don't need Carrot :ninja:
Nami will get Sulong so we don't need Carrot :ninja:
I know this is a joke, but a large part of me wants Chopper to get his own SuLong…
Carrot's Sulong complements Chopper's Monster Point perfectly.
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Chopper's Monster Point is basically Sulong.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chopper would be able to create a drug to make the Minks turn Sulong at any time.
Turns out, he secretly has Pedro's corpse and is dissecting it on the down-low. :ninja:
I will not be surprised at all if Chopper was inspired by SUlong and cooked up some new drugs during the month at Wano to give himself a new form. Everyone else in the crew has gotten upgrades since the timeskip. Gear 4 for Luffy, new sword for Zoro, super cloud for Nami, haki for Usopp, stealth suit for Sanji, new mechs from Franky, all sorts of power from Brook… nothing really for Chopper. (Or Robin for that matter...)
So I will really not be surprised if he pulls out a new fast form for himself. He really hasn't shown off much of anything in some time, he's kept to chibi mode for the most part.
Regarding Robin, I assumed her being able to sprout giant limbs and full blown clones of herself counted as an upgrade? Maybe her "final" upgrade is a giant clone of herself?
Yeah, the fullbody clone is insane.
At least I thought so until Doflamingo did the same, just with multiple clones, insane range and zero danger to the user. Because hey, that's what strings do!
It would be a big upgrade if he could use Monster Point for a longer period of time, and not end up incapable of moving, after the usage.
