Aaaand it's out:
http://readms.net/r/one_piece/876/4512/1
Oh boy do I ever dread reading this…
Aaaand it's out:
http://readms.net/r/one_piece/876/4512/1
Oh boy do I ever dread reading this…
Nice. Thanks a lot.
my god now i can't stand pudding -_-, the source of every flaw of this arc
anyway,how the hell is big mom supposed to "chase them through the ocean"? she is a devil fruit user, and while big,she isn't THAT high
oh wait,right,zeus is now with her…but isn't he way too fast for the sunny?
Ok, ow I like Pudding again.
Also nice to hear the cake willake BM faint, was wondering how they'd escape afterwards.
Well really, what can I say..
Pudding for next nakama tho
Not a lot of action on the forum this hour, no?
I think reading spoilers last night kind of detoxed me from being as pissed of by this chapter as I expected to be. As annoying and underwhelming Pudding has been. I think Oda pretty much did some lampshade hanging on the fact that her split personality thing is stupid. I'll respect that. And the fact that they go to chocoisland doesn't create the sense that the flow is being disrupted. Pretty meh chapter overall though. But it could have been waaaaaaay worse.
Ok, Pudding's Tsundere for Sanji gag is going to get annoying really fast. I hope Oda tones it down a little when they bake the cake. It's clear that Katakuri senses something is amiss, I hope Luffy makes it to the Sunny next chapter causing Katakuri to join the fight.
Soul King Brook
Stand : Bone to be wild
Well I didn't expect Oda to go 300 % tsundere on Pudding. I was expecting something like 150%
Despite the spoilers making it look like it for 2 weeks now, I think it's pretty obvious Pudding doesn't have a split personality. She is just not being able to deal with the fact she is infatuated with Sanji (although I can see Oda making her resist it so much her personality ends up splitting in two in a comic way).
Anyways, I usually hate female japanese trope personalities like tsundere and (above everything else) moe, but Pudding is such a ridiculously extreme one that I absolutely loved her in this chapter. I wasn't a fan of her either as a good girl or as a villain, but this one is fun to watch.
Pudding aside, I loved the page with BM eating through the ground and Jinbe with an ominous look in his face. We are finally getting serious reactions to BM display of power instead of just face faults.
Also great to see she came out unscathed from Zeus/Nami attack - and people were freaking out because Nami was able to hurt BM last week… Too bad it seems her underlings were all defeated (oh well, as long as there is SBS, there is a chance to know more about them).
Pudding is getting annoying already. What happened to her being an actress and "acting" good or bad? in the end it's just some split personality she can't control.
I liked the last 2 chapters.
But this was probably the most awful chapter since like forever for me.
The way Sanji just goes to bake the stupid cake as if it was nothing and leaving everyone there, then he sees Brook and Chopper fighting…
LOL Katakuri just stands there with his arms crossed...because plot.
And yeah Pudding, we get it, you´re a psycho bitch. Like mother, like daughter.
The last Sanji panel is the worst. It´s like from a paralell universe where One Piece is total crap.
EDIT: Maybe I just didn´t get it and Oda decided to troll everyone including himself big time, in which case, he´s done a tremendous job. I fell for it.
And what's with the PIS from Katakuri, just kill Brooke and Chopper instead of standing there. Sanji abandoning them do deal with an over 1 billion bounty sweet commander and big mom who is right behind them is just terrible, Chopper and Brooke can't deal with Katakuri if Oda would just let him move.
Pudding is a funnier Hancock, I'm not fan of those …dere tropes but her moods switch are so extreme I like it.
@Daz:
Wow, Brook looks to be fighting with a friggin Soul Stand!
I wish it was given any impact, but the idea sure is neat.
It's new isn't it. I think he couldn't move his body when is soul was out until now
And what's with the PIS from Katakuri, just kill Brooke and Chopper instead of standing there. Sanji abandoning them do deal with an over 1 billion bounty sweet commander and big mom who is right behind them is just terrible, Chopper and Brooke can't deal with Katakuri if Oda would just let him move.
he is not like he is abandoning them to go on vacation..his part is as good ad everyone else involved..if he stays and fight they'll have to deal with big mom, which is even worse
they just showed the way towards the sunny to the rest of the crew, that's why sanji thinks is ok to go doing what he needs to do.
Hm, it seems like I'm missing something. I'm not particularly offended by Pudding's behavior. Nor do I care much for it. I'll wait and see what Oda intends to do with it. But this chapter set up the cake plan pretty well. Otherwise, I also really liked Big Mom tunneling through the earth, and also Brook and Chopper making a stand. Oh, and it was also cool seeing Pudding's DF powers on display once again, I hope we'll get to see more of them.
I hope Chopper and Brook atleast defeat Pero. No chance in hell they will defeat Katakuri tho
Man, I must be the only person that liked Pudding in this chapter. I agree with others who say she doesn't have a split personality; I really think she's confused with her infatuation for Sanji and her need to side with her family and kill him. Ultimately I think she'll end up good after all is said and done. I also laughed at Sanji's line saying her eye is beautiful when she's angry I think they make a good duo. Outside of that I'm looking forward to seeing how Oda deals with Luffy's problem when he has Katakuri on one side and Big Mom on the other.
Sanji trusts his crew even against a monster like Katakuri. You all obviously don't. I trust Oda to complete this arc in a satisfying way. You all obviously don't. It's always sad to see how little faith in this series people have. Negativity has become the norm here.
Man, I must be the only person that liked Pudding in this chapter.
I like her too. People here just love complaining a bit too much.
So Chiffon is puting her life on the line on a promise to let them free against a cake. Sure, but did she forget Mum hate her and that her husband tried to kill Mum…
Let's hope Sanji cake make her faint for quite some time, just in case :-)
Weeeeed…. (best part of this chapter imo).
Finally coming to this predictable end... now a little bit of running an dodging, then get along with Big Moms Kids and after calming down Big Mom we can go on to Wano. Should be late autumn this year.
Man, I must be the only person that liked Pudding in this chapter. I agree with others who say she doesn't have a split personality; I really think she's confused with her infatuation for Sanji and her need to side with her family and kill him. Ultimately I think she'll end up good after all is said and done. I also laughed at Sanji's line saying her eye is beautiful when she's angry I think they make a good duo. Outside of that I'm looking forward to seeing how Oda deals with Luffy's problem when he has Katakuri on one side and Big Mom on the other.
i think everything around pudding would be perceived better if it was not completely half-assed by oda in the first place
her "heel turn" was completely nonsensical and just done for drama's sake without really any repercussion since in the end she turned good again…
also her infatution with sanji is a joke because of how it happened..for her sanji was a low life idiot until....he made a compliment to her eye and now she is madly in love with him...not because he liked his kindness,or because sanji's personality conquered her (like it happened with luffy and hancock), but because of a shallow compliment from a guy that likes every attractive woman in the world without distinctions...it's not like it's the one girl that manages to lock him up..the guy had a quasi-relationship with viola just last arc...@Omni:
Sanji trusts his crew even against a monster like Katakuri. You all obviously don't. I trust Oda to complete this arc in a satisfying way. You all obviously don't. It's always sad to see how little faith in this series people have. Negativity has become the norm here.
or maybe this arc is really flawed and we expect more from oda.
They had the perfect killi plan: capture and PLace one of the many df user underlings from bm's crew in the cake at the wedding and allow bm to do the rest. ??? job done, 1 yonkou down.
Yet they go for the crappiest scientist CC's crappy weapons and now with the cake thing barely escaping their lives. nice going.
Pudding isn't joining guys.
Sanji will make a giant wedding cake shaped like Mother Carmel
And what's with the PIS from Katakuri, just kill Brooke and Chopper instead of standing there. Sanji abandoning them do deal with an over 1 billion bounty sweet commander and big mom who is right behind them is just terrible, Chopper and Brooke can't deal with Katakuri if Oda would just let him move.
You aware Luffy and Jinbe are just about to reach the Sunny, right? He is not leaving them alone, they are about to get help who are even stronger than Sanji himself, while only Sanji can help bake the cake.
he is not like he is abandoning them to go on vacation..his part is as good ad everyone else involved..if he stays and fight they'll have to deal with big mom, which is even worse
they just showed the way towards the sunny to the rest of the crew, that's why sanji thinks is ok to go doing what he needs to do.
1)He's abandoning them. If Oda wasn't pulling a smoothie but with Katakuri this time, those 2 would be dead right now as Sanji leaves them. You can't deny that PIS. And how many hours are they going to be left with fighting Big Mom and Katakuri? They couldn't even last a few minutes earlier and that was with germas help.
2)Right he leaves them all in this dangerous place, when he is the reason they are even in danger in the first place while he goes to safely bake a cake on another island. Protecting the crew is what he needs to do, not abandoning them to help Pudding and Chiffon (whom both claimed in previous chapters they could make this cake by themselves).
I won't mind Pudding's personality problem if she gets time later on to sort it all out. I kind of inherently understand it…she was moved by Sanji's declaration, and this unexpected move has caused her to feel extremes in her emotions. But it's come on a bit too suddenly for my tastes.
Good thing a lot of people are realizing how One Piece is turning sh*t!
Am a big fan of the series but lately everything has been so poor!
Big mom crew looks like fodder or they all look like kids playing with strawhats. Katakuri waiting there chilling around made me rofl. Badass definitely LOL.
Come on ODA just wrap this sh*t up already.
So Pudding is a more extreme version of Chopper in the sense that he loves the compliments you give him but he says mean things instead of thank you. Anyways moving on to next week so Katakuri vs Luffy and Jimbe, but where could the fight take place. I get the feeling those fighters are going to need room and I doubt the Sunny has a Spirit and Time chamber below deck. Pedro, Rabbit, and Nami versus Pero Spero. I really can careless about the Big Mom part she won't be the focus next chapter because of her mindless rage.
@.access:
You aware Luffy and Jinbe are just about to reach the Sunny, right? He is not leaving them alone, they are about to get help who are even stronger than Sanji himself, while only Sanji can help bake the cake.
Luffy is still a ways off, seeing as how Doflamingo beat Sanji in 30 seconds you think Katakuri couldn't finish Chopper and Brooke off before they get there if he wanted? Sanji is literally leaving them and hoping they are saved by plot.
Sanji is trying to get rid of the SH to prevent his friends from fighting BM and her crew: "Sanji doesn't trust Luffy, this is ridiculous!"
Sanji trusts the crew to fight BM and her crew and is off to help somewhere else: "Sanji doesn't care about his friends, this is ridiculous!"
1)He's abandoning them. If Oda wasn't pulling a smoothie but with Katakuri this time, those 2 would be dead right now as Sanji leaves them. You can't deny that PIS. And how many hours are they going to be left with fighting Big Mom and Katakuri? They couldn't even last a few minutes earlier and that was with germas help.
This isn't the wedding. Heck, Kata and Peros were even going to let Brook and Chopper go out of pity since they think they're the only two Straw Hats still alive. They literally have 10,000 Chess Soldiers in the tank - who wouldn't expect those to not be formidable? I wouldn't be surprised if Katakuri ended up taking direct action now that he knows how strong they are.
Also, Big Mom is coming, and will be in a rage given that they think she's exposed Peros' lie. Katakuri can't be wrapped up in battling these two if he knows he needs to deal with Big Mom not too long from now.
1)He's abandoning them. If Oda wasn't pulling a smoothie but with Katakuri this time, those 2 would be dead right now as Sanji leaves them. You can't deny that PIS. And how many hours are they going to be left with fighting Big Mom and Katakuri? They couldn't even last a few minutes earlier and that was with germas help.
2)Right he leaves them all in this dangerous place, when he is the reason they are even in danger in the first place while he goes to safely bake a cake on another island. Protecting the crew is what he needs to do, not abandoning them to help Pudding and Chiffon (whom both claimed in previous chapters they could make this cake by themselves).
1)accusing the will of the author to "save someone" is always a pretty bad argument..everything happens because of the author's will. they are doing well enough and the rest of the crew is one minute at worst from reaching them, he is not abandoning them,he is trusting them to survive another minute.
Pudding isn't joining guys.
I don't think anyone realistically thought she was. She's too important to Big Mom given her "ability" she's definitely going to play a big role in Elbaf I think.
@Kaido:
I won't mind Pudding's personality problem if she gets time later on to sort it all out. I kind of inherently understand it…she was moved by Sanji's declaration, and this unexpected move has caused her to feel extremes in her emotions. But it's come on a bit too suddenly for my tastes.
it's a cartoony reaction at best,no matter how slow the turn is you can't really do this kind of 180 over someone that just compliment a part of your body you are ashamed of…nobody in the real world is this shallow..let alone someone like they pudding we saw until that point
How can they make a big cake in short time? Seriously, it brings at least 1 hour.
I don't really appreciate Pudding, don't wanna see her on Sunny's board with Mugiwara crew.
Well, what's the Japanese original chapter title? Thanks.
it's a cartoony reaction at best,no matter how slow the turn is you can't really do this kind of 180 over someone that just compliment a part of your body you are ashamed of…nobody in the real world is this shallow..let alone someone like they pudding we saw until that point
People in the real world generally do not have three eyes, either.
it's a cartoony reaction at best,no matter how slow the turn is you can't really do this kind of 180 over someone that just compliment a part of your body you are ashamed of…nobody in the real world is this shallow..let alone someone like they pudding we saw until that point
It's not really a 180 though, not as long as Pudding's unstable enough to have emotional fits this extreme. Also, this isn't the real world…
@Master:
Good thing a lot of people are realizing how One Piece is turning sh*t!
Am a big fan of the series but lately everything has been so poor!Big mom crew looks like fodder or they all look like kids playing with strawhats. Katakuri waiting there chilling around made me rofl. Badass definitely LOL.
Come on ODA just wrap this sh*t up already.
this arc has definitely some pretty big flaws but…turning to shit? big mom's crew as fodder? bascially all the name guys are unscathed..they are not even tired...
This chapter was way better than the spoilers made it out to be. I thought they were going to just stand around and talk the whole chapter, but the whole sequence was pretty dynamic. Still just an average chapter, but I was expecting much worse.
it's a cartoony reaction at best,no matter how slow the turn is you can't really do this kind of 180 over someone that just compliment a part of your body you are ashamed of…nobody in the real world is this shallow..let alone someone like they pudding we saw until that point
Why do you even read One Piece? You're complaining about something that's been part of the comic since the beginning and measure it by a standard that was never even relevant to it in any way.
They stopped to check the hole instead of gaining ground on BM? what's this? some kind of teen horror movie? :getlost:
@Kaido:
It's not really a 180 though, not as long as Pudding's unstable enough to have emotional fits this extreme.
it definitely is a 180 on sanji..before it was an idiot low life that she didn't care for at all… there was not a single aspect of sanji's personality and appearance that she even ever hinted to appreciate...but then he compliments her eye and suddenly she is madly in love....again,let's go back to hancock....her change from not caring about luffy at all to mad love was way more motivated than this, she came to like luffy for what he is and his personality... with her opinion about him changing three times in three different occasions before she started being lovesick...not because he said "oh you have a nice tattoo on your back"
@Master:
Good thing a lot of people are realizing how One Piece is turning sh*t!
Am a big fan of the series but lately everything has been so poor!Big mom crew looks like fodder or they all look like kids playing with strawhats. Katakuri waiting there chilling around made me rofl. Badass definitely LOL.
Come on ODA just wrap this sh*t up already.
So you think 10 years ago there weren't chapters like this? I guess you aren't as big as a fan you claim to be.
Why do you even read One Piece? You're complaining about something that's been part of the comic since the beginning and measure it by a standard that was never even relevant to it in any way.
not really…just look at how hancock shifted rom not caring about luffy to love him...THAT is the same scenario but done well..so i don't agree that this is something present in the manga since the beginning
1)accusing the will of the author to "save someone" is always a pretty bad argument..everything happens because of the author's will. they are doing well enough and the rest of the crew is one minute at worst from reaching them, he is not abandoning them,he is trusting them to survive another minute.
- if they don't bake they are all dead because of big mom. again,you act like sanji isn't doing a crucial part in this plan by doing what he is doing…it's also strange to argue that chiffon and pudding would have been fine without sanji when they were the ones that asked sanji to help them...and that the entire point of this plotpoint is that the cake is hard to make.
1)That's just denying the PIS is used to keep them alive. Do remember that Sanji couldn't last a minute vs doflamingo, yet 2 much weaker strawhats are expected to deal with someone even stronger than doflamingo, another strong character perospero, and an army? Sanji must have future sight and know Katakuri will not be moving for the next 2 minutes.
this arc has definitely some pretty big flaws but…turning to shit? big mom's crew as fodder? bascially all the name guys are unscathed..they are not even tired...
That's the point. I know they are strong. They are just useless. Like some unimportant character that just needs to fill some pages until other stuff happens. This is in my opinion shit. Make a good story or dont do it at all. There are tons of ways that the BM crew could have been made look badass and epic by still having the SH alive. But this plot has been so poor…
@S.C.:
People in the real world generally do not have three eyes, either.
that's why i said " a part of your body you are ashamed of"
also,let's talk about this third eye…we have a world where there are people with horns,half mink/fishman, double elbow arms and god knows how many strange body types...and what is an "abomination" in the onepiece world where even someone like big mom will tell you are a monster is a third eye? REALLY?