Tetsu Inada (voice of Komamura and Love) was waiting a long time to do the heart of wolf scene
https://www.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/15dctdl/tetsu_inada_komamura_voice_actor_ive_been_waiting/
relevant new kubo art
Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!
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@zeltrax225 not to mention the fact that urahara somehow figured out the quincy weakness to hollows from ichigo's fight with Opie, even though the reason his bankai couldn't be stolen was because it was actually quincy power. Also that Mayuri, the guy who did extensive and horrific research on the quincy, didn't know about this. Then there's the hollow allergy that's only mentioned the one time and never brought up again.
Here's a thought: why not have urahara or mayuri, or hell even both, study one of the quincy medallions from any of the dead sternritter? Kenpachi cut down at least half a dozen. That way their deduction of how to recover the stolen bankais doesn't retroactively contradict anything.
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To be fair, Urahara deduced that because Quilge became deformed from absorbing Allon, not because of Ichigo's Bankai.
But, yeah, the whole thing doesn't make any sense. Quilge didn't suffer any drawback from absorbing an entire Hollow's existence into him, but somehow it led to Urahara discovering Quincy are allergic to hollow powers. And while Quilge could perfectly fight with an entire hollow merged with him, a slight hollow reiatsu mixed with Bankai was damaging enough to the Quincy to the point the Bankai was forcibly expelled from their medallion.
Not to mention the whole "they don't steal Resurrección because it is a liability to them, but Bankai is fine", yet having Bankai kept a Quincy from being able to enter Volstandig - while absorbing a hollow didn't kept Quilge from using his Volstandig.
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Edit: I was definitely in the wrong thread.
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@access-timeco you know what bothers me? The fact that they never explain how the medallions work. With how everything else is over explained in Bleach, it's weird that this thing is just ignored for the most part. The bankai stealing is fine, in and of itself, but given how intrinsic a bankai is to the shinigami there needed to be something. A quincy absorbing the reishi that made up the bankai? Sure, I could potentially see a super skilled quincy pulling off something like that. It's a stretch, but it can also be something only the most elite are capable of.
The only thing I could ever come up with is that the medallion targets the asauchi and severs the shinigami's connection to their zanpakuto. This way, it's reasonable for the quincy to steal bankai and the shinigami would have to come up with some way to reclaim them that isn't some nonsense, out of nowhere, contrivance that isn't even utilized later on.
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Bleach is just so good. This episode had to be like 7-9 chapters.
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I really enjoyed the directing and acting, of course. Zaraki is just so cool, but I also really enjoyed Glemmy's ability and how the episode plays out in classic BLEACH fashion of two big personalities with wild abilities clashing both through their dialogue and physical combat.
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I wish they hadn’t rushed so much. Particularly skipping the dialogue between Askin and Pepe, since that provided some background on Gremmy
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The reactions now Vs the reactions with the earlier manga content is something wow
#Vergoshotfirst #Doflaisapunk
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@ea77 said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
The reactions now Vs the reactions with the earlier manga content is something wow
Bleach was always entertaining — readers just had a difficult time understanding the series’ pacing and intent. Studio Pierrot understands and is creating the best possible adaptation, IMO. This is everything I ever would have wanted in a Bleach adaptation!
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The adaptation has been excellent, but I'm leery of some of the future material. Without going into detail, it gets bad. I'm fearing we're getting to the point where a great adaptation won't be enough to save this.
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They'll figure something out. Frankly, I just hope that they add more Orihime and Ichigo scenes.
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Bleach Manga is paced like the one piece anime and the one piece anime is paced like the bleach manga, ironic
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ugh we reached the gremmy portions already? i guess something had to counter giselle and sun mayuri
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Recap episode this week... But it seems that the final two episodes will air back-to-back will cover the Yhwach vs Ichibei fight!
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renji not being in rukia's mind when she took the fear attack was really funny to me considering who she ended up with in the end.
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@zeltrax225 said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
renji not being in rukia's mind when she took the fear attack was really funny to me considering who she ended up with in the end.
I know its been a decade or so but I will never not be salty about my Ichiruki not happening.Wasn’t the Ichigo x Rukia shipping an anime-only thing? Kubo made it clear from the beginning of the series that Ichigo and Orihime had a thing for each other.
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@karubiDON she pretty much when into his room and confessed to him but it doesn't change my opinion of who I think is the better pairing.
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One of the things I commend Kubo for doing is not turning Ichigo and Rukia's relationship into a romantic one. Having the male and female main characters be best friends without the necessity of that having to become romantic was really great and a big outliner on the shonen usual mindset that men go a different wavelength that only other men can understand and truly connect with.
I remember the reactions when the final chapter came out, some people calling Ichigo a cuck because Rukia married Renji so he risked his life for saving another man's woman on the Soul Society; and a much bigger crowd saying the fact their relationship didn't turned romantic completely dismissed the importance Rukia had on Ichigo's life (a notion that would never cross their minds if Rukia was a guy).
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@access-timeco said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
One of the things I commend Kubo for doing is not turning Ichigo and Rukia's relationship into a romantic one. Having the male and a female main characters be best friends without the necessity of that having to become romantic was really great and a big outliner on the shonen usual mindset that men go a different wavelength that only other men can understand and truly connect with.
while I agree, Ichiruki is a better ship.
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I'm so conflicted because while I think IchiRuki is a better pairing (at least in the sense that Ichigo has better in story chemistry with Rukia than with Orihime), I also appreciate having those two as rare shonen male-female friends. And I don't hate Ichihime in the slightest, Kubo just fumbled the bag with Orihime in general.
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@access-timeco said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
One of the things I commend Kubo for doing is not turning Ichigo and Rukia's relationship into a romantic one. Having the male and female main characters be best friends without the necessity of that having to become romantic was really great and a big outliner on the shonen usual mindset that men go a different wavelength that only other men can understand and truly connect with.
I remember the reactions when the final chapter came out, some people calling Ichigo a cuck because Rukia married Renji so he risked his life for saving another man's woman on the Soul Society; and a much bigger crowd saying the fact their relationship didn't turned romantic completely dismissed the importance Rukia had on Ichigo's life (a notion that would never cross their minds if Rukia was a guy).
That really showed how much the public needs more examples of close (and platonic) friendships between men and women like this.Calling Ichigo a cuck because...he saved the girl who he'd shown a hell of a lot more romantic interest in over the years than Rukia sure is a weird take from a bunch of guys who probably never dated a real human being in their lives.
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Ichigo was from the living world and Rukia was from the spirit world. Long-distance relationships rarely work out.
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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@zeltrax225 said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
@karubiDON she pretty much when into his room and confessed to him but it doesn't change my opinion of who I think is the better pairing.
I’m actually referring to scenes way before that. It’s clear that Orihime likes Ichigo in chapter 2 — and Ichigo is a bit nervous around her as well.
I remember watching a DBZImran video that went into a bit more detail on this, but I’m fairly sure that a lot of the canon moments between Ichigo and Orihime might’ve been changed — and the same is true for canon moments between Ichigo and Rukia.
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@karubiDON I get that but it still comes off really..uh, for the lack of a better word, shallow to me? I'm sure this would have worked better if Orihime actually had good character development and their relationship had some form of development beyond damsel in distress kind of thing. Ichiruki just feels like a whole different level to me. I still remember how Ichigo borrowed Rukia's words in his talk with his father. I still remember how Rukia was the one that snapped him out of his spiral in Fullbring (whereas Orihime just exist..and to be saved again). It felt so similar to your childhood/anime first crush trope that the guy likes this girl and they end up together in the end. It lacked the development and depth? that Ichiruki showed. My saltiness is not mitigated by the anime going so far as pairing them out in Ending songs/giving good composition to their farewell scenes/important scenes and basically (I'll need to dig this up) ship them in the staff room.
The platonic friendship thing works too, I guess. And it's cool. I can understand it.
...But I also really hate it because you can frame Renji and Rukia's relationship the same way. Uryu and Orihime could have been romantic but my poor dude is suffering the same fate as his dad.
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Oh, I always thougtht that Ishida had more chemistry with Nemu. Hell, she even looks like his mom lol
The implication that Kubo would tie Ichigo and Ishida together with characters that would remind them of their moms is actually hilarious to me, but whatever lol
She/Her
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@JulieYBM okay that was not what I was expecting. I do know that people ship Mayuri and Nemu though and they sang a song cover together. I still love that cover a lot because it's literally Frieza singing a love song in the most romantic way ever. Uhh Ichigo going for Orihime and Orihime looking a lot like her mother and his entire thing before the whole he's 1/8 of every race being about his mother is a can of worms that..exist, I guess.
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I didn't even consider retroactively that Nemu looks like Ishida's mom.
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I mean, I shipped Nemu and Ishida together even before I found out that she looks like his mom. Afterward, the freak in my just finds it funnier (and hotter), because Ishida is absolutely the kind of guy to want to call Nemu his mommy if they were married.
Also, imagine having fucking MAYURI of all people as your father-in-law? I think Mayuri (as an abusive father left not called-out for his crimes) is completely inappropriate for a kids franchise, but if BLEACH Is just going to be retooled from now on as a franchise for adults then I say go ahead and just full ham with the weird relationship shit lol.
The Mayuri and Nemu cover song for the first Ending is so fucking good, too.
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Isn't that more because Kubo doesn't really have varied faces? We made fun of many of the guys looking the same. Hell, there's one dude in this arc who looks just like Aizen. So it stands to reason this extends to the female characters.
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@Nobodyman remember that Isshin was dead for who knows how long before getting a meat suit and fathering children in the mortal realm
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Was Isshin actually ever dead?
I'm genuinely asking cuz I don't know since Kubo never bothered with his lore but isn't it kinda implied that soul reapers can actually reproduce? (Byakuya being the grandson of previous cpt. 6)
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@statu-variabilis said in Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!:
isn't it kinda implied that soul reapers can actually reproduce?
Not implied, it's a straight up fact.
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Soul reapers are ghosts but also a seperate species or something, it was very weird
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It's the same for the Nazis.
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kubo was smart to not make it very often but yes, rukia, byakuya's parents, and others have reproduced
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you see the age gap isn't that much of a problem in the series. Isshin is like what, 300-400 or a 1000 years old and he married someone under 20. Ichiruki totally would have worked and is not weird in anyway following the rules of Bleach's universe. Rukia already has a physical body on standby!!
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Watching these recent episodes reminds me how stupid the quincy fights were. It's just repetitive 3-4 shinigami all going bankai just to take down one sternritter. The mask de masculine fight being the epitome of this.
Kubology: The blind and unthinking acceptance of whatever Kubo writes.
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Lord, I forgot about how hot that scene with Gigi and ZomBambi is. Hell, I forgot that it even existed. >_<
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@Xanegoh yeah I mean I'm only here for Mayuri, Urahara and Kyoraku. All 3 characters handled their fights like a cakewalk. Everything else is fine. All the powerups are whatever, it just happens that the three characters that I love doesn't really have those random out of your ass powerup and was consistent throughout the series. All of which I really enjoy (Mayuri is a walking doraemon and pulls things out of his ass but I'll let that slide considering how he is one of the best characters in this series). Kenpachi was great until his entire thing became hulk smashing through every problem and one liners that interchangeably sound the same. I still think back to Bleach as the series where Ichigo is very rarely anyone's favourite.
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Chad’s always been my favorite for some reason and he gets sidelined all the time
Just like Rock Lee in Naruto
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I always liked Bleach for the non-captain characters. Everyone Lieutenant Rank and below had either great personality or fun powers that just made for a great watch to see how they'd win (or lose). This extends to Ichigo and the gang, who always seemed like they just got along with and worked better with these soul reapers than the captains.
The captains were all the cast I generally hated, with the Vizards being more a middle neutral ground that I just never found the ability to care about one way or the other. They were just lazy writing excuses to swoop in and clean up fights the actual good characters couldn't win. I mean, I thought Gin and Tosen were cool for awhile, but then we lost them. Toshiro was the only one that ever felt like one of the main group, barely feeling like a captain most of the time.
Yamamoto and Unohana existed to be the "cool old ones" that rarely did anything, but were constantly teased for being huge threats. When we finally saw the payoff for them, I was more struck with just thinking "God, finally they did their thing and we're done with them." rather than actually caring about them. Komamura and Ukitake are were just boring in general. Soi Fon would be with Toshiro as one of the fine ones, but her Yoruichi gag got old fast. Kyoraku is a fun personality, but his sword games are so hax they ruined his few actual fights.
And Kenpachi, Mayuri, and Byakuya are just the worst of the worst that I pretty much hated the entire series. Their arrival to "save the day" by curbstomping Espada in the Hueco Mundo fights cements the point of no return for me where I tend to mark my enjoyment end altogether. The final arc/fights never did anything to change this for me. At least most of their hax meet their limits here, but they still get to find new hax help. Byakuya should've died to the fear person, Kenpachi eliminated by the girl squad, and Mayuri should've died for his crimes years ago.
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My favorite characters have shifted a bit across the years - Kenpachi was at the top of the top in the overall sense but I think from the Yammy fight beyond Kubo makes him too strong that it's hard to even enjoy his own way of fighting. But outside of him I'm still a big 11th fan with Yachiru, Ikkaku, and Yumichika
I actually used to greatly dislike Tousen and be just kinda "ok" on Gin but recently I've found them to be fascinating, especially the former, so it's a shame both went out in the way that they did. I think the Vizards should've had waaay more focus as this ragtag group of Shinigami outlaws that would be Ichigo's true allies, and to see their functionality get overwritten by the Fullbringers is just....head scratching to say the least.
And of course, if anyone knows anything about my Bleach posting over the years, always been the guy that wished Orihime and Chad got more than what they got. Hell Uryu too to a minor extent, but he at least skates by with more compared to those two.
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I think a lot of us wanted Ichigo's human friends to become relevant again. The fullbring arc would have been the best place for that to happen. It would've been great if they had awakened their own powers and the focus was on them, Orihime and Chad. Cut down Ichigo's involvement since he doesn't need to be the extra-super-special.
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Well I hope if they ever do a Hell arc, Chad, Orihime and Ishida get some time to shine
But of course they won’t
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I need a Hell arc where it's just Orihime and Gigi traveling through Hell to save everyone. That would be a lot of fun.
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Nice addition in the anime showing how Yhwach acquired Pernidas.
Also good to see people behind the animation have more common sense than Kubo and removed the "Schutzstaffel" name. Now I am reminded of that Burn the Witch character with a logo that was obviously based on the SS logo as well and it makes me wonder... we really are way too lenient with Kubo, aren't we? He keeps asserting his sympathy with the nazi (at least from an aesthetic POV) and we just look away.
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@access-timeco the fact that the quincy were initially sympathetic antagonists makes that even weirder. Kubo probably chose the German phrases at random to make Ishida seem more 'alien' to the rest of the soul society. Hell, I don't think the overall German angle was necessarily bad, perse. But making them actually soul nazis was beyond stupid.
