If it happens, I'm going with the brandnew "Vivi is Pluton" theory.
Think about it, Robin didn't reveal the location to Croc. Maybe because she had sympathy for this young girl with the power of destroying the world, like her.
And it would explain why the Nefertari didn't leave Alabasta for Marijoie. They had to protect their lineage.
Well the theory also works if it's Karue.
Another similarity could be that only the King Neptune of FI knew Shirahoshi being an ancient weapon.
Here, only King Riku knows it.
Doflamingo wouldn't have just chosen this island on random to rule over.
His ancestors probably knew about a Tontatta possessing power of ancient weapon and came to Dressrosa…
Just a dumb theory of mine :)
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If it happens, I'm going with the brandnew "Vivi is Pluton" theory.
Think about it, Robin didn't reveal the location to Croc. Maybe because she had sympathy for this young girl with the power of destroying the world, like her.
And it would explain why the Nefertari didn't leave Alabasta for Marijoie. They had to protect their lineage.Well the theory also works if it's Karue.
Wasn't Pluton a kind of ship? If my memory is correct, that is.
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maybe it is a secret only the royal families know
Yeah this is what I think too.
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Another similarity could be that only the King Neptune of FI knew Shirahoshi being an ancient weapon.
Here, only King Riku knows it.Doflamingo wouldn't have just chosen this island on random to rule over.
His ancestors probably knew about a Tontatta possessing power of ancient weapon and came to Dressrosa…Just a dumb theory of mine :)
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Wasn't Pluton a kind of ship? If my memory is correct, that is.
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Yeah this is what I think too.
Pluton is a ship, which Franky destroyed the plans for, or at least another Pluton. That means a person can't be it. Only theory I will accept is if Usopp or Franky are Pluton. Usopp can make ships grow from plants, and Pluton is a ship made of plants, or Frankys ultimate form is Pluton:ninja:
Some folks obviously missed the clarification the first time, now we're all on the same page.
Hopefully.
Even without Aohige making sure translation is OK it's crystal clear how Oda established their rankings. After the chart Oda used to introduce their ranking system he wouldn't change it upside down through a single comment. That much, should be given. Nevermind though…
Yeah I think so too.
But if Manshelly was fruit user, Leo etc would know straight away..?
Very true.
The way that Manshelly's been presented, with a lot of waiting and seemingly some contradictory takes on her, I really don't know what to expect from her.
Wait what? I thought the Tontatta's were similar to the Samurai - where they refer to their powers as "Power" and "Sorcery" respectively.. and not actually a Devil Fruit.
Wait what? I thought the Tontatta's were similar to the Samurai - where they refer to their powers as "Power" and "Sorcery" respectively.. and not actually a Devil Fruit.
They make artificial devil fruits…
And I'm pretty sure the users introduced themselves as fruit users (Bian, Leo, Kabu).
Or at least there was no reference in them being uninformed about DF.
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@Myu:
Even without Aohige making sure translation is OK it's crystal clear how Oda established their rankings. After the chart Oda used to introduce their ranking system he wouldn't change it upside down through a single comment. That much, should be given. Nevermind though…
You're trying to sell ice to an eskimo here, buddy.
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Wait what? I thought the Tontatta's were similar to the Samurai - where they refer to their powers as "Power" and "Sorcery" respectively.. and not actually a Devil Fruit.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna need to look back at all the previous references to Manshelly that we've seen over the course of the arc before I provide my take, they've been pretty spread out.
I'm 100% certain it's not gonna be another princess - ancient weapon scenario, though.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna need to look back at all the previous references to Manshelly that we've seen over the course of the arc before I provide my take, they've been pretty spread out.
I'm 100% certain it's not gonna be another princess - ancient weapon scenario, though.
It would also ruin the thing that made Shirahoshi unique. Then again, you will have two opposites that are similar. The biggest princess and the smallest princess both are weapons. I doubt that it would be the case, but if Shirahoshi wasn't Poiseidon, I would've guessed Mansherry because of the connections between this arc and Skypeae.
They make artificial devil fruits…
And I'm pretty sure the users introduced themselves as fruit users (Bian, Leo, Kabu).
Or at least there was no reference in them being uninformed about DF.
In 711 Kabu says that Robin can use magic, followed by Leo saying that he used the "nui nui" power. Seems to be a mix of both, or they just haven't classified her as a DF at that point.
No more "special" princesses please.
In 711 Kabu says that Robin can use magic, followed by Leo saying that he used the "nui nui" power. Seems to be a mix of both, or they just haven't classified her as a DF at that point.
No more "special" princesses please.
Ahh, I see.
Well, I'm quite quite sure that Oda won't have yet another princess turning out to be ancient weapon.
But… what could she be then?
I really do think she could be the real reason why Doflamingo came to Dressrosa after hundred years of his family's absence in this kingdom.
They make artificial devil fruits…
And I'm pretty sure the users introduced themselves as fruit users (Bian, Leo, Kabu).
Or at least there was no reference in them being uninformed about DF.
I know it's been answered already but let me make it clearer.
Kabu calling Robin's power as "Magic" and Leo referring to his powers as "Power".
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I know you mean this introduction but there's a difference from being introduced as having Devil Fruits and them actually knowing/saying they have Devil Fruits (it's even in parentheses).
Now that I think about it further, can anyone can confirm if we only get an introduction on Devil Fruits for Zoans? cause a lot of them can't talk.. usually it's in the dialogue right?
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Toy Soldier is the one who mentions Hobby Hobby Fruit, Usopp asks, Toy Soldier replies.
The rest is pretty much their attitude/dialogue towards known Devil Fruit users.
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I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna need to look back at all the previous references to Manshelly that we've seen over the course of the arc before I provide my take, they've been pretty spread out.
I'm 100% certain it's not gonna be another princess - ancient weapon scenario, though.
Yeah I don't think so either. Poseidon is a mermaid, ancient power of the seas, able to tame/control very large Sea Kings. Pluton is an ancient man-made battleship, to bring destruction and hell on earth. So Uranus should be something related to the sky and possibly not being a person nor made.
Of course we can't rule out the fact that there were rumors of Roger having one of the Ancient Weapons.
And the reason why Doflamingo came back to Dressrosa when his Donquixote family left several hundred years ago is still a mystery.
Recently Doflamingo told Bellamy that he wants to destroy the world. Manshelly might be his key.
I'm not saying you're wrong but the problem with this is that King Riku was the one who said he's sure Doflamingo wants her powers. Whether King Riku knows that Doflamingo wants to destroy the world or not, I'm not actually sure, but Doflamingo could use something to hide this incident, that's for sure.
I have this feeling that Mansherry power has something to do with memory or something that can alter the perception of others
I have this feeling that Mansherry power has something to do with memory or something that can alter the perception of others
why? when? How come?
@Miss:
I WANT BANGS ROBIN BACK! And if it's bangs-cowboy hat-Robin even better.
I'll second that!
And if we are being wishful, I want Stoic Robin back. Seriously, the woman had more shocked faces this arc then she did the entire manga before hand.
I agree with you. Am I going to get hate-mail now? Seriously though, I want her to develop and feel at ease around her pirate family but I don't want her to become just another one of the girls. A dash of Miss All Sunday could keep her from becoming bland.
If she loses that dark edge completely I don't think I'll really be able to relate to her as much anymore. I don't think her actions this arc are solid proof she's headed that way, but it's something I worry about.
There were also some panels where Oda forgot to draw Viola's lip correctly and she ended up looking like Robin.
The thing is Oda actually came up with some interesting hairstyles for Robin but he went with the most generic hairstyle. And he also smooth out her distinctive nose and eyes.
So, Robin used to have a fairly unique face but now it's watered down.=.=
Sadly, I don't think that look is ever coming back.
@O:
why? when? How come?
I understand the why and the how come but not the when. Anyway the reason for my thought process is this, the fact that both DD and king Riku needs her power after all the conflict is settled, i was thinking of what would they need her power for and what could influence the aftermath of what went down on the island. I don't know if sugar can turn objects or corpse into toys so how DD will cover up the existence of the citzens i have no clue and even if DD manage to kill Fuji or turn him into a Toy there will still be question about him due to the marines keeping records and there power structure (hope). About the island i don't think sugar can make the island be forgotten. Therefore DD will need some other means to cover up Dressroa incident hence my line of thought a power that can alter things so that when persons think of dressrosa they won't know are have a clue about the island and what took place there.
As for King Riku i was thinking maybe base on what we know of is charactor he maybe the type to want persons to forget the tragedy and what they did to there love ones and therefore something that can show persons the opposite effect will come in. Pretty much that, as the memory goes too much hole after thinking about it i realise there is lots of evidence towards sugar power making people forget there love ones. I hope this answer your question and remember all speculation
Next week: Koala vs Jesus
Next week: Koala vs Jesus
Eh… Koala is a girl. And before you go with fangs at me: It's not me being sexists, it's you being optimistic to the point of it being downright insane. Such fight would end in complete curbstomp, regardless of hype Koala has gotten. And Oda ain't going to do that... I think.
He might want to, honestly. And then Sabo will save her.
Eh… Koala is a girl. And before you go with fangs at me: It's not me being sexists, it's you being optimistic to the point of it being downright insane. Such fight would end in complete curbstomp, regardless of hype Koala has gotten. And Oda ain't going to do that... I think.
He might want to, honestly.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was the joke.
Anyway I think that Koala deserves an officer aswell. Please Oda !
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was the joke.
Anyway I think that Koala deserves an officer aswell. Please Oda !
I do not trust Oda with female characters fighting. Not after fiasco that was PH Tashigi.
And it's hard to tell with you guys, to be honest.
I cannot help but think that Koala fighting would turn sour really fast, to be honest. Let's at least keep the illusion that we have capable female character around going, shall we?
I do not trust Oda with female characters fighting. Not after fiasco that was PH Tashigi.
And it's hard to tell with you guys, to be honest.
I cannot help but think that Koala fighting would turn sour really fast, to be honest. Let's at least keep the illusion that we have capable female character around going, shall we?
Eh! I think Tashigi did pretty well. Way more impressive than Usopp, Nami, Chopper or Robin during Punk Hazard.
Surely she will have her own moment of glory in the future..or not !
I have this feeling that Mansherry power has something to do with memory or something that can alter the perception of others
And I have a feeling that she has some power of restoration that works on places, things and humans.
Like she can restore stuff to how it was like that hammer thing from Wreck it Ralph movie that Felix was using.
And I have a feeling that she has some power of restoration that works on places, things and humans.
Like she can restore stuff to how it was like that hammer thing from Wreck it Ralph movie that Felix was using.
Oh! Good reference! I could only remember a masked weirdo with the same ability in Fairy Tail.
And I have a feeling that she has some power of restoration that works on places, things and humans.
If that is going to be an end to this arc, I'm going to rage. Really, really rage. That so reeks of ending of Pain Arc in Naruto. Especially with the fact that she has any sort of power being revealed fifty chapters in.
And I have a feeling that she has some power of restoration that works on places, things and humans.
Like she can restore stuff to how it was like that hammer thing from Wreck it Ralph movie that Felix was using.
Funny thing is i want the land scape to remain the same as it is now the last page with castle in the background look way better than where it was before and i can see the colosseum looking the same like the one in the real world at the end of the arc
@Miss:
Anybody else find it jarring that we saw Robin in the colorspread (doing her painted-up duck lips face), and then we see Violet in the very next first page.. and they both look identical now? If he has some problems making women's faces look different, then why in god's name would Oda make his two leading ladies as generic as possible? I WANT BANGS ROBIN BACK! And if it's bangs-cowboy hat-Robin even better.
Soo that way nobody propose those clon characters for nakamas, same case for Becca/Nami.
If that is going to be an end to this arc, I'm going to rage. Really, really rage. That so reeks of ending of Pain Arc in Naruto. Especially with the fact that she has any sort of power being revealed fifty chapters in.
No offense but you would rage no matter what probably 
Seriously you will have really nice 2015 as SH will move to another island and Dressrosa will become just a memory of last summer for you 
This power would be of use as Riku said and it would make sense for people of Dressrosa to get back everything they had before. And it would be very difficult to make island look like before without
Picas power. As for comparing it to Naruto- it can be power of restore things and people but not to bring dead people back to life imo.
Soo that way nobody propose those clon characters for nakamas, same case for Becca/Nami.
I wholeheartedly hope this comment is a joke.
It would be far better for the citizens, perhaps with the help of the Marines, to work together and rebuild the city than wave a magic restoration wand.
It would be far better for the citizens, perhaps with the help of the Marines, to work together and rebuild the city than wave a magic restoration wand.
Yeah, Fujitora could get on that one, if just to keep appearences of actually being moraly right, as we were lead to believe he was.
@Miss:
I wholeheartedly hope this comment is a joke.
That's how Oda Sensei works, clon characters(shirahoshi, Becca, Violet)= 0% possibilities to join the crew, super original characters(Chopper, Franky, brook and more recently Jimbe)= 101% possibilities of totaly joining the crew.
No offense but you would rage no matter what probably
If it's done by 2015… And yes, I will be incredibly happy when this bloody arc will just go away. I will make it a five page long epitath of everything fucking wrong with it, and then forget it existed, burying it six feet under.
Might be longer if all of those lovely optimistic wishful predictions of people won't come true after all.
This power would be of use as Riku said and it would make sense for people of Dressrosa to get back everything they had before. And it would be very difficult to make island look like before without
Picas power. As for comparing it to Naruto- it can be power of restore things and people but not to bring dead people back to life imo.
Still a cop-out. This was hyped by Oda himself as an arc that would bring changes, big pernament changes, to the world. Dressrosa should stay the way it is, to show that yes, there are consequences, and there are things that can go wrong at best of circumstances.
You do not magicaly fix things by the use of devil fruit that wasn't even foreshadowed in the slightest.
Manshelly's power is to turn into a Mythical Zoan: Fairy!
Why? Tontatta's are already considered to be fairies in the story and also share the resemblance to many myths about them.
(Source: Me)
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Manshelly's power is to turn into a Mythical Zoan: Fairy!
Why? Tontatta's are already considered to be fairies in the story and also share the resemblance to many myths about them.
(Source: Me)
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Hum..and apparently she isn't in good shape. It's probably because of Katzztar's theory.
Hum..and apparently she isn't in good shape. It's probably because of Katzztar's theory.
Of fine, blame me…actually do it!
It would give me notoriety and pirates love that!
Though I still don't see how my wishful theory (Oda, please do this for the lols!) of Manshelly being as short-tempered is due to her being not so gullible as her fellow Tontatta and having to deal with their stupidity puts her in bad shape with that fairy DF …. unless since the "you gotta believe in fairies" thing and she's too reasonable for that... now that would be funny
Manshelly's power is to turn into a Mythical Zoan: Fairy!
Why? Tontatta's are already considered to be fairies in the story and also share the resemblance to many myths about them.
(Source: Me)
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where is the footage from your sig from?
If it's done by 2015… And yes, I will be incredibly happy when this bloody arc will just go away. I will make it a five page long epitath of everything fucking wrong with it, and then forget it existed, burying it six feet under.
Might be longer if all of those lovely optimistic wishful predictions of people won't come true after all.
Still a cop-out. This was hyped by Oda himself as an arc that would bring changes, big pernament changes, to the world. Dressrosa should stay the way it is, to show that yes, there are consequences, and there are things that can go wrong at best of circumstances.
You do not magicaly fix things by the use of devil fruit that wasn't even foreshadowed in the slightest.
Dressrosa staying destroyed doesnt affect world much.
End of Doflamingo business does and I think that Oda more hints to that. I dont get your point here really. Head of underworld being cut off will put new world in chaos not some deformed/ destroyed Dressrosa island.
People of it can get peace and restoration after 10 years of terrible suffering - or they cant to make some point in your opinion? I dont get your point with how Dressrosa state will affect world.
Character of Dwarf princess was shown for first time just recently and in first chapter she was visible somebody hinted to her power, what other foreshadowing you expect?
@Vasco:
where is the footage from your sig from?
So Dressrosa will gain the statue of the almighty Pica. Could be nice a nice attraction for tourists.
So Dressrosa will gain the statue of the almighty Pica. Could be nice a nice attraction for tourists.
I few 1080 Pound Cannons will clear that right up.
Besides I don't think the citizens will be so keen to have a statue of someone who is related to the person who manipulated them.
Usopp beating up Kin and Kan was funny :P
Manshelly's power is to turn into a Mythical Zoan: Fairy!
Is she effective against Sabo then?
Is she effective against Sabo then?
If the theory that One Piece is the Pokémon world 1000's of years than before, then the possibility is slight. However, it's 100% good against Dragon himself, because he's 100% pure dragon! Always great to come back to see some delicious rage on the thread.
Still a cop-out. This was hyped by Oda himself as an arc that would bring changes, big pernament changes, to the world. Dressrosa should stay the way it is, to show that yes, there are consequences, and there are things that can go wrong at best of circumstances.
You do not magicaly fix things by the use of devil fruit that wasn't even foreshadowed in the slightest.
The changes will be mostly related to the underworld and Kaidou, as well as the WG.
Dressrosa's state is irrelevant, though I don't believe the geography will go back to what it once was as the changes aren't exactly hurtful. The castle and the flower field moved away and there's now a giant Pica statue (which is gonna be destroyed anyway). Nothing really major.
I said it once before and I´ll say it again, if Mancherrie has an ability then she´s probably the responsible for dofla´s clones running around. Why does it have to be an over the top never seen fruit? (of course, I´m not saying it cannot be something new) But honestly she having a clone ability would nerf down Doflas power without actually creating a copout. I could be wrong but if I´m right….woohhooo
If it happens, I'm going with the brandnew "Vivi is Pluton" theory.
Think about it, Robin didn't reveal the location to Croc. Maybe because she had sympathy for this young girl with the power of destroying the world, like her.
And it would explain why the Nefertari didn't leave Alabasta for Marijoie. They had to protect their lineage.Well the theory also works if it's Karue.
The blueprints that Franky burned on Enies Lobby was actually just playboy with different princess that are ancient weapons in it.
