Why'd it even have to be the tabasaco? One Impact Wolf to the face and she's out.
Trebol intercepts the wolf with his sticky. Again, Usopp will never land an attack on Sugar while Trebol is active.
One Piece Chapter 742 - I'll always be close to you
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@Mr.:
Perhaps she had some latent phobia involving seeing someone's eyeballs and tongue writhe out of their skulls like snakes–probably bloodshot after eating that fiery substance? Though I'm sure it had more to do with Usopp practically being in a coma and suddenly bursting to life like an oozing zombie and wailing his head off like a banshee, with his grotesque face fault as merely icing on the cake to scaring her out of her mind.
Not exactly a phobia, but Oda did seem to suggest that she had a very kiddish view on the grotesque here
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@Da:
16 chars of via Violet.
And why would Viola sell out her sister? I think Monet is more likely to blame.
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My prediction next chapter is that the scene will transfer to sanji's team.
Cause the sop operation has been done, the beautiful flashback of kyros was over
so it would be possible to change scene ^_^
just saying
I doubt we'll see what's happening off the coast of Dressrosa until all the stuff on the mainland is wrapped up.
I'm predicting the appearance of the KHA alliance personally.
To add that in with all the currently active storylines would just be too much.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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@Cyan:
How dare Usopp not completely solo two of Doflamingo's top lieutenants. For fuck's sake people, he's still the weakest on the team and as far as he knows the dwarves just dragged him into a fight with Trebol with no backup.
glad someone else shares my thought. these LTs have been in the new world for years and have DD as their leader so its not unexpected that they beat the weakest crew member. its just that some OP fans want more action instead of storyline and gags.
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I doubt we'll see what's happening off the coast of Dressrosa until all the stuff on the mainland is wrapped up.
I'm predicting the appearance of the KHA alliance personally.
To add that in with all the currently active storylines would just be too much.
Wow that would be totally awesome, but i guess its too early for that :D
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Well at least now we know who is going to destroy the factory. Burgess is going to destroy it as mentioned by Doflamingos men. Nice foreshadowing.
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Wow that would be totally awesome, but i guess its too early for that :D
Yeah, well I think it's obvious that something big is going down out there anyway, since we got the setup and then…nothing.
The KHA turning up to take down another ship belonging to Big Mom and helping out the Curlyhat pirates would certainly qualify and fit together with Kid's previous actions.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Hmm, once Kyros regain his human form, do you think that his wound on his leg is still fresh? And the missing leg is still inside the castle and fresh? Law is there….. :ninja:
Yes i was thinking of that. As soon as he comes out he's gonna be in pain. But later on Law will be there to help :)
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Yeah, well I think it's obvious that something big is going down out there anyway, since we got the setup and then…nothing.The KHA turning up to take down another ship belonging to Big Mom and helping out the Curlyhat pirates would certainly qualify and fit together with Kid's previous actions.
i will just quote this one and then i reply later :DeditMaybe just 1 page of that…cause I believe the scene will go to sanjiand the rest is will concentrate at the colleseum
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Maybe this has already been discussed, but how did Doflamingo know Kyros' wife is the princess? Do you think it will be clarified in later chapters? Or are we supposed to assume that Doflamingo just known by interrogating people in the palace/ gain info via Monet ?
Yeah, Monet already work in the palace long before Dofla's attack.
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I think people so far have said it all.
It was a really touching flashback and imo really well done. Him cutting his leg like that, reminded me of Zoro almost doing the same. Although I do wonder, how he got into that seastone handcuffs in the first place
After that I would agree with people who said that what happened at the end was just over the top. You can say it is bad writing, that characters perhaps do not act according to what we expect from them, but you can always say arguements against that. So I will say this.
The fact that Sugar went down as she did was cheap, she is not years wise so naive to get scared of such thing, neither did she in any case before shown that she is the type to get scared easily. Meanwhile for Usoppp I cant say that he did not preform according to his abilities and what not, so from that stand point alone I would say all ok, but in a manga about a pirate crew which is supposed to take the world by a storm and where the entire crew is supposed to become top of the top, he is certainly underpreforming and disappointing, especially when he was bragging about maturing from the weaker trio and what not. First he runs like he would when they met him perfectly understanding the situation and chooing to abandon his friend(s), then he comes back, after hearing the screams and conscience kicks in and then when it is his moment to shine, to perhaps get a win through tricks and scheming he basically loses and lets the team down, it is only after the coincidence that SOP succeeds.Which again I have no problem with on its own (Usopp failing) but you cannot expect to see him in a good light after this. Underwhelming and disappointing in terms of character and ability and the plot as a whole? The plot as a whole seems to favor a gag moment more then anything. And since this is not the first time it happened I must say I am disappointed, some here were not bothered with the way this went down, some of us here were. People are different and have different views on things.
As for Franky, I really hoped he would have fared a bit better, but I guess he was gang banged. As for Robin… amongst all the toys stating their thoughts, there is no Robin. Forgotten for a chapter, doing nothing.
I will however remember this chapter not for the antics that went down at the end of it but by the story of sorrow and pain Kuros felt. Really well done and unforgettable for me. Love the character a lot more now as well.
Well let us see what happens next
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Doflamingo is focused on other things at the moment. Makes sense to not activate it as he is concentrating something else.
No it doesn't make sense actually, like I just said with the example of luffy sensing caribou.
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He do have to activate it. You talk about Caribou, but than what about Sanji with Caesar Clown underlings when they attacked the sunny?
I'm not even saying that Doflamingo has or not Observation Haki, but only that we don't really know and saying that he isn't found Luffy yet, isn't a manner to see if he have it or not.
Note that while Dofla is being attacked, he is in the top of the building(In a save place) listening to what is underling are reporting.
There are to many parameters to discern if he has or not. There are different levels of skills(people that are good in a large area, people that are good in a close area. The gradient of information that a person can take throughout the area of observation. The effort needed to observe. What kind of information that you can see with your haki). We only know is that Enel would have is ability mixed with Observation activated all the time, giving him the ability to hear everything in the area. When he heard someone he would need to focus his observation to know more information about the target. Aisa seems to be able to discern where things are and if they are alive or dead(knock out) but she couldn't discern what it was(We don't know if she needed to activate it or if for her it was always active). The priests only could observe the target they knew the position(When they didn't knew where Enel was they didn't noticed that he was behind them at all) and it seems for them any kind of distraction was able to dispel their observation. Koby at least when he learned it, was all over Marineford and he could feel people die(I would say that his was similar to Aisa, that was a natural too). Rayleigh the master in Haki, could know the skills of all the animals in an entire island, it didn't seemed that he needed to much effort to control the observation. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji seems to be casual, where they sometimes don't have it "active" and other times they have. Doflamingo we don't know at all. I would say that the way he evade attacks is observation just because he doesn't even look at the enemies and evades them without effort(Ex: With Baby 5, he was at the phone and he didn't looked at her, but he evaded everything. With Sanji he flipped his body and put his cloak in front of him and he still avoided damage, with Law he evaded him without any effort). Now it could be that Doflamingo has some insane reflexes and evasion skills, or that he has observation haki. If he has it, probably he is a master only with it directed directly at someone, and is only useful to direct fights.mhm yea I guess that makes sense, but what i'm saying is that doflamingo should of sensed luffy, but didn't because ''PLOT''. And it'S fine like that, but he definitively should of sensed him and no one's gonna be able to make me change my mind.
Good post by the way.
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My prediction next chapter is that the scene will transfer to sanji's team.
Cause the sop operation has been done, the beautiful flashback of kyros was over
so it would be possible to change scene ^_^
just saying
Given the arena's going to be popping full of transforming toys and returning pirates and the audience will suddenly be remembering family members they'd long forgotten, going to bet next episode will be focusing on the arena action before the place comes down on their heads.
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I wonder if even Oda thinks about things in one piece as seriously as some people do here
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Has Sugar always been wearing a monocle?
There's some broken glass around her "eyepatch" when her eyes popped out.
I thought the eyepatch was just drawn on or something.FC(3DS) - 2724-4238-5489 (LZTan)
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@Bond:
Has Sugar always been wearing a monocle?
There's some broken glass around her "eyepatch" when her eyes popped out.
I thought the eyepatch was just drawn on or something.Only badass people wear eyepatches.
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Wait a minute. With Sugar knocked out, and all the toy in Dressrosa returning to human…
Did Usopp just gain his 5000 followers?
May you live in interesting times.
May you attract the attention of those above you.
~Two ancient Chinese curses.
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Wait a minute. With Sugar knocked out, and all the toy in Dressrosa returning to human…
Did Usopp just gain his 5000 followers?
Lol that's easilly possible.
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Given the arena's going to be popping full of transforming toys and returning pirates and the audience will suddenly be remembering family members they'd long forgotten, going to bet next episode will be focusing on the arena action before the place comes down on their heads.
colleseum will breakdown soon, because burges wreaking havoc.
if that will happen whos the winner? whos gonna get the mera mera?
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Just analyzing how the toys becoming humans is going to work, I have a feeling we might get a curve-ball regarding how it plays out. I'm inclined to think that people who forgot about people might not even remember they forgot about people making the story all that more tragic for Kyros.
Becoming a Toy: You keep all your memories, typically bound by a contract.
Forgetting a person who was turned into a toy: Your brain fills everything in magically and that person never existed.Becoming a human: You keep all your memories and are free from the contract.
Remembering a person A: Your brain fills everything in magically and that person was never gone.
Remembering a person B: Your brain freaks out and you realize that the person has been a toy for years, all toys were really people, ect.In example A we have chaos from the toys wanting revenge because they know exactly what happened. In example B people still won't know why people were toys, who they should be upset at and from what we've been given they don't have any clue the Dofla Family is actually evil.
Are we going to see the untoyified people explaining to their loved ones that Sugar and the Dofla Family are the reason for all their troubles? Or will the result be truly unexpected and SOP doesn't quite have the impact Kyros thought it would?
Personally I'd rather see Oda flesh out people realizing they've been duped for nearly a decade and see their reaction and ire against the Dofla family. Also just speculating what if Dofla had a back up plan in the case sugar ever was knocked out? Would Dofla toyify one of his own who could somehow help in the case of an emergency like this?
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I am still wondering what purpose Bartolomeo's suitcase will serve (blowing up the SMILE factory?). Is there really explosives inside? Or will he just hide the Mera Mera no Mi inside it once he steals it =/.
Barto is a fanboy, I feel that in the suitcase there are all his strawhat memorabilia collected :D
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So, on a topic blissfully unrelated to Usopp and the ending of the chapter:
dont know if somebody allready found this: (second one is from rebeccas flashback in 721)
I really wanted to thank you for posting this. While I'm sure plenty of people had picked up on it in the first place, and speaking for myself I certainly realized the basic idea, I know I, at least, tend to be horrible at picking up on 'details', even ones as big and obvious as this. Besides which, as I believe someone else already said, it really is especially nice to just have them immediately next to each other to compare.
Really, this picture comparison illustrates perfectly one of the things that was amazing about this flashback, which I don't believe has gotten much talk. Given the fact that memory shenanigans had been well established in this arc, combined with what flashbacks we've had being more or less presented as a specific person's memories – something which is not necessarily usually the case, I believe -- and we had a situation where any given flashback could well not actually have been entirely accurate. I hoped, and honestly had to assume, that Oda would take advantage of this fact by portraying events in a different way in other flashbacks, and am incredibly glad that he came through in this chapter. It's a small enough thing, on the grand scale, but it's this sort of little touch that I tend to feel really makes Oda's crafting so great.
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@Panda:
So, on a topic blissfully unrelated to Usopp and the ending of the chapter:
I really wanted to thank you for posting this. While I'm sure plenty of people had picked up on it in the first place, and speaking for myself I certainly realized the basic idea, I know I, at least, tend to be horrible at picking up on 'details', even ones as big and obvious as this. Besides which, as I believe someone else already said, it really is especially nice to just have them immediately next to each other to compare.
Really, this picture comparison illustrates perfectly one of the things that was amazing about this flashback, which I don't believe has gotten much talk. Given the fact that memory shenanigans had been well established in this arc, combined with what flashbacks we've had being more or less presented as a specific person's memories – something which is not necessarily usually the case, I believe -- and we had a situation where any given flashback could well not actually have been entirely accurate. I hoped, and honestly had to assume, that Oda would take advantage of this fact by portraying events in a different way in other flashbacks, and am incredibly glad that he came through in this chapter. It's a small enough thing, on the grand scale, but it's this sort of little touch that I tend to feel really makes Oda's crafting so great.
Yup. It's really awesome to see Oda basically confirm that we are seeing flashbacks from a particular character's point of view.
And, of course, as always, the incredible attention to detail.
I really do think that he tried to draw Kyros's version in a little grittier of a style. It's really neat to see how everything was actually redrawn, even the shading in the clouds is totally different while still delivering the same effect.
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Who will kyros fight, he seems like a weakling to me.
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Who will kyros fight, he seems like a weakling to me.
Kyros seems weak to you?? The man was undefeated in the Colosseum.
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You mean the dwarves that Trebol round up in an instant? Oh btw, Robin did engage Trebol for about 60secs or less and Trebol recovered and respond quickly.
How much time does a sniper need to do his work? Engage the trebol away from sugar and voila.
The reactions here would be so different if this was naruto or bleach.
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Only badass people wear eyepatches.
Speaking of which, Zoro could use his bandana like one.Yes… And use chidori. And his Sharingan.
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Kyros seems weak to you?? The man was undefeated in the Colosseum.
That doesn't say much since we know for sure his best opponent was king riku , the one that managed to wound him. It's still not clear where to place Kyros.
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I'll put both your posts and reply to it each, hope you don't mind.
This. Its not like he is a top officer for one of the most sadistic villains around. The man has principles dammit. What would Doflamingo say if he had killed Ussop, the poor guy would be out of a job.
Usopp is a sniper who uses plants as a weapon. Why not have the dwarves and robin engage trebol while usopp terrorizes sugar from long range. Thats kind of his style with his freaky attacks but nah, lets have him run away like a coward. Get totally beat up and fluke a win. Makes more sense.
@Bolded I'm guessing sarcasm. Anyway, Trebol didn't kill the dwarves, it's easy to think he's inclined to torture, Doflamingo also told him to bring Sugar to the Royal Palace quickly, so conveniently timing as it is or whatever you wanna call it cause it happens a lot in media, it makes sense.
Usopp uses plants yes, he also has other things in his arsenal.. like fire. It'd be really damn difficult for Usopp to shoot at someone who KNOWS his plan is to feed her the grape with someone as fast, accurate and strong as Trebol protecting her. If you mean Usopp should have helped the dwarves in the beginning, yeah okay sure I won't disagree with that but if you recall, Usopp was never fond of the plan to begin with - thinking it's suicide. The original plan was Franky to show up to help
him(recall that he was thinking in his head that he's not used to someone asking why he's not doing anything) and Robin but as we saw she decided to lure Trebol out, Usopp not showing himself despite OUR as readers' better judgement and in hindsight does not mean HE, Usopp was out of character - he also tried to stop the dwarves from showing themselves.How much time does a sniper need to do his work? Engage the trebol away from sugar and voila.
The reactions here would be so different if this was naruto or bleach.
Trebol. Sugar knows his plan. Also we don't know what happened so complaining about something that happened off-screen is ridiculous. I can't say for Naruto and Bleach but I would take a guess that we'd get a drawn out battle just to be disappointed, maybe with some inconsistencies, flashbacks about Rin and/or what people call asspulls.
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Well what I find interesting as well, if Sabo intends to crush the colosseum with Burgess help… And if yes why Burgess should do it and not Sabo is doing it
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Well what I find interesting as well, if Sabo intends to crush the colosseum with Burgess help… And if yes why Burgess should do it and not Sabo is doing it
Why waste your own energy when you have a blood-lusted dude gunning for you that you can use to crush the Colosseum for you and coincide with your possible plan, without him knowing?
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That doesn't say much since we know for sure his best opponent was king riku , the one that managed to wound him. It's still not clear where to place Kyros.
Riku wounded him because Kyros was going easy.. Did you read the chapter?
He completely defeated all of his other opponents, with nary an injury to show for it. That doesn't make him seem strong to you? Wow.
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So… now that the toys are about to turn back, are we even going to get any explanation for the two rules set by Doflamingo for them?
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what do you believe about the straw hat's bounties after the dressora arc? wil they increase?
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Why waste your own energy when you have a blood-lusted dude gunning for you that you can use to crush the Colosseum for you and coincide with your possible plan, without him knowing?
True dat… But I really want to know if the palace after Zoro beats Pica will collapse as well meaning that maybe all the players will meet down at the Toy Factory... Would be awesome...
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Nice to know that Sugar is frail psychologically, I love non-mentioned incredibly convenient facts.
The fact that Sugar went down as she did was cheap, she is not years wise so naive to get scared of such thing, neither did she in any case before shown that she is the type to get scared easily.
Even though she's been protected by the highly destructive and over-the-top Trebol for 10 years now (note how he put a hole in the Officer's tower when he killed a fly), she still looked only somewhat less scared than Usopp and the Dwarves when he threw a ship at the tower. This wasn't exactly out of the blue.
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So… now that the toys are about to turn back, are we even going to get any explanation for the two rules set by Doflamingo for them?
Yeah even i was wondering the same thing.
I think that just because sugar got knocked out like that doesn't mean that the toys turn back to human. Just because of the those two rules being unexplained as of yet cause if that were the case then the introduction of the rules (which took a whole chapter iirc) would be redundant, and the way such a pivotal moment in the arc and in the new world in general was to happen in such a way is something i wouldn't expect out of an excellent story teller such as oda. We never got confirmation that the toys were turning back to human anyways. -
what do you believe about the straw hat's bounties after the dressora arc? wil they increase?
Well Nami, Chopper and Brook haven't done a lot in Dressrosa. And Sanji isnt there either. Kind of depends on what happens with them. Would be weird to have a bounty increase on only Luffy, Zoro, Franky, Robin (and maybe Sanji and Usopp).
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@Panda:
I really wanted to thank you for posting this.
You're welcome^^
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Ramistar signatures are the best. LoL
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There is something that is kinda redundant and stupid to ask but I'll give it a go:
When we first see Usopp unconscious right? So why is he crying even before eating the "poison" ? The only possibility i can think of is that the Tatababasco is SOOO hot that t can make someone go al watery just by putting it in ones mouth (not eating, holding with teeth).
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dont know if somebody allready found this: (second one is from rebeccas flashback in 721)
I know people have already said this, but seriously…..great catch.
I think it helps the (somewhat fast-paced) flashback to see that Oda has drawn the exact scene and panel twice, factoring in Sugar's powers and Dressrosa's memory loss. Really gives it a sense of coherency.
