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I thought the person Stewart was joking about eating pizza with a knife and fork was DeBlasio, not that it would surprise me if Trump used them as well.
http://digg.com/video/jon-stewart-takes-on-bill-de-blasio-eating-his-pizza-with-a-knife-and-fork
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Also check in the kitchen.
Real good pizza should have swarthy probably grumpy old world looking people in it (they don't have to be Italian, Greeks and Arabs will be fine for instance). Any ethnicity is alright in the kitchen as long as grumpy tan guy/woman with hairy arms is glaring in a corner or behind the front counter.
I understand there's lots of good pizza joints (especially on the west coast and any given college town) that make nice tasty stuff? But the kitchen is usually staffed with peppy white hipsters who have a few "neat ideas" about how to make the food.
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It's so weird to think of a place with only one kind of pizza per day, when we usually have hundreds of kinds in any given pizza place around here.
That's what happens when you live in the Bay Area. People gettin all fancy and hipster.
The upside of their business model is that they can serve tons of customers by just cranking out the same kind of pizza the whole time.
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I thought the person Stewart was joking about eating pizza with a knife and fork was DeBlasio, not that it would surprise me if Trump used them as well.
http://digg.com/video/jon-stewart-takes-on-bill-de-blasio-eating-his-pizza-with-a-knife-and-fork
It's both then I guess.
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@Monkey:
Real good pizza should have swarthy probably grumpy old world looking people in it (they don't have to be Italian, Greeks and Arabs will be fine for instance). Any ethnicity is alright in the kitchen as long as grumpy tan guy/woman with hairy arms is glaring in a corner or behind the front counter.
Bonus if they're yelling at the new pizza boy in a fractured mix of English and their native language, with said native language appearing in sentences where swears should go
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That's what happens when you live in the Bay Area. People gettin all fancy and hipster.
The upside of their business model is that they can serve tons of customers by just cranking out the same kind of pizza the whole time.
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@Cyan:
Bonus if they're yelling at the new pizza boy in a fractured mix of English and their native language, with said native language appearing in sentences where swears should go
Even more bonus points if main staff is clearly related to one another.
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For full marks, Frank Sinatra-sounding music should be playing constantly from an old speaker positioned high on a shelf.
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The scariness of the pizzeria matriarch increases in relation to how short she is.
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Grease stains and sweat stains should be indistinguishable on the apron.
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I love this food discussion lol. Someone go revive the food thread.
Americans also eat blue cheese? I thought that it was an European thing.
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@le:
I love this food discussion lol. Someone go revive the food thread.
Americans also eat blue cheese? I thought that it was an European thing.Not all… or most. I think its more like
pig's feetlimburger cheese or such.. seen as a specialty food and not sold at many (if any) of the national chain stores. At least none in the Central Plains states I've been in don't have it.
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@Monkey:
But the kitchen is usually staffed with peppy white hipsters who have a few "neat ideas" about how to make the food.
And that's just not the authentic experience you should be looking for.Dunno about that. The true hipster places are usually the ones that go way, obsessed nerd, deep into whatever food they've chosen to be all rainman about. Like those hipster burger joints where they borderline raise their own cattle, slaughter it themselves, bake the bread, buy the local blue cheese, make the condiments etc. Or those kind of Thai places opened by some loon who spent like eight years traveling around Thailand just stealing recipes of the most deepwoods local he could find. But i guess hipsters also like to open fusion places, which can be of very dubious quality.
@le:
I love this food discussion lol. Someone go revive the food thread.
Americans also eat blue cheese? I thought that it was an European thing.Any nation that doesn't celebrate blue cheese is missing out on something i tell ya.
For Wolfwood.
The worst part about that clip is how they eat it straight out of the can, brine and all. It's like someone heard that a chili was a nice dish, eats a whole handfull of habaneros straight up and complains that this dish is terrible. That and how they don't open the can under running water.
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Blue cheese is God tier cheese.
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@le:
Americans also eat blue cheese?
Yes, very much so… at least where I'm from.
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The worst part about that clip is how they eat it straight out of the can, brine and all. It's like someone heard that a chili was a nice dish, eats a whole handfull of habaneros straight up and complains that this dish is terrible. That and how they don't open the can under running water.
I never open it under running water or in a bucket of water or whatever my self. Just angle the can a little and open it at the top, where the gas will have collected. No spraying or anything and no messing about with water. It's the pro way… try it man. :)
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@Steven:
Blue cheese is God tier cheese.
Pretty much and I say this as someone who initially wasn't really big on the idea of it now eat habitually
whenever I eat Wings from certain places.That said though how would anyone rank Asiago cheese that's easily one of the smelliest and strongest
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Fuck they put bleu cheese on all the fucking burgers around here in georgia
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Dude, bleu cheese is like.. one of my favorite cheeses. And I see it in like.. every store.
But I'm a cheese guy. Asiago, Gruyere, Bleu, Dubliner, Swiss, Gouda, Cheddar.. Nom.
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I have never eaten blue cheese
but the thought of eating mold grosses me out. It might be different in blue cheese but still.On the other hand, we have got nice white salty cheese (others too but), which I adore and eat as much as I eat bread :3
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Dude, bleu cheese is like.. one of my favorite cheeses. And I see it in like.. every store.
But I'm a cheese guy. Asiago, Gruyere, Bleu, Dubliner, Swiss, Gouda, Cheddar.. Nom.
So are most American made cheeses just locally made knock-offs of old world cheese?
Or do you guys have some secret stashes of American originals that we Euros never get to hear of?
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Dunno about that. The true hipster places are usually the ones that go way, obsessed nerd, deep into whatever food they've chosen to be all rainman about. Like those hipster burger joints where they borderline raise their own cattle, slaughter it themselves, bake the bread, buy the local blue cheese, make the condiments etc. Or those kind of Thai places opened by some loon who spent like eight years traveling around Thailand just stealing recipes of the most deepwoods local he could find. But i guess hipsters also like to open fusion places, which can be of very dubious quality.
Yeah, none of that shit is authentic it's just "authentic".
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So are most American made cheeses just locally made knock-offs of old world cheese?
Usually it's a linguistic thing where a specific regional name got applied to a broad style of something.
Like Parmesan cheese to a European means that super specific cheese produced in that area of North Italy around Parma.
In North America it's just the word for cheese of that style, possibly not even Parma style cheese sometimes.It's the common thing you see all over where a word for something specific comes to mean a larger thing.
Maybe it makes more sense in Europe to be careful on that, but when the people who brought over Parma style cheese arrived and dispersed and mixed in, and so did the recipes, you can't seriously expect the same approach to food.
Even all this pizza we're talking about obviously isn't the same as the original. They're evolutions from immigrants adapting and meshing into the new world. -
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@Monkey:
Yeah, none of that shit is authentic it's just "authentic".
Yeah but authentic in the way you are talking about is a pretty meaningless term. Like authentic Italian food for instance, it's entirely meaningless since the nation itself is so fractured and varied that you could easily tell that let's say Sicillian food cooked in Rome isn't truly authentic in the way you are talking about, heck i doubt that even the Sicillians themselves readily agree on what's authentic. The classic example with Bolognese for instance, even if you go to the birthplace of the dish you get sixty families with sixty recipes. Even the official recipe that they kinda, sorta agreed on could be deemed non-authentic by some. The only thing that's ever transferable is a sorta broadstrokes blueprint.
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velveeta .
Oh, like cheese wiz?
Never tried any of them. What do they go good with?
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Yeah but authentic in the way you are talking about is a pretty meaningless term.
Lou's gonna break your knee caps in pal!!!
(me and the other Tri-Staters were having a laugh on the subject, not being serious lol)Like authentic Italian food for instance, it's entirely meaningless since the nation itself is so fractured and varied that you could easily tell that let's say Sicillian food cooked in Rome isn't truly authentic in the way you are talking about, heck i doubt that even the Sicillians themselves readily agree on what's authentic.
Italian Americans are almost exclusively imports of the Mezzogiorno so in the American sense it's much more a precise meaning than literally Italy.
To the extent that places serving northern Italian food have to advertise that in their name lol.
It should also be understood that there's been cross-regional food hybridizing just by the nature of early immigrant communities not exactly being picky in seeing if the people living next to them who speak the same language are from Calabria or not. So food traditions mixed, but they mixed in an organic old world/new world hybrid way. Long before pretentious American fusion foodees, or pretentious Europeans figuring the one place they can make ridiculous rigid nationalism these days without murdering one another is to become food region nazis.
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A lack of self-respect
In a country where people think that things like deep fried butter is delicious that's rather harsh…..hell I wonder if some enterprising individual figured out a way to deep fry Velveeta and Cheese Wiz too.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Hey by the time you're eating deep-fried butter you're waaaay beyond lack of self-respect lol.
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@Monkey:
Ain't nothin' yer fancy pants EU food gestapo can say or do about it!
They could use the age old weapon of snooty derision.
But what everyone should just do is do like the French and standardize the shit out of their cuisine.
In a country where people think that things like deep fried butter is delicious that's rather harsh…..hell I wonder if some enterprising individual figured out a way to deep fry Velveeta and Cheese Wiz too.
Sooo fried butter is a stick of butter that's been coated in breadcrubs?
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I came here to talk to speak about bridges being built and islands being sold but reading all the talk about cheese and pizza made me really hungry. :ninja:
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This phony honor code that puts you on your throne, a double standard you invoke when you want~
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Sooo fried butter is a stick of butter that's been coated in breadcrubs?
Apparently that was one step of the stomach churning process.
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@NER:
I came here to talk to speak about bridges being built and islands being sold but reading all the talk about cheese and pizza made me really hungry. :ninja:
Well, it seems we are having a smelly discussion :ninja:
Yeah, this week is going to be crazy. [http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2016/04/1759643-rousseff-begins-decisive-week-with-progressive-party-ally-threat-to-disband.shtml](http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2016/04/1759643-rousseff-begins-decisive-week-with-progressive-party-ally-threat-to-disband.shtml) [http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2016/04/1759647-most-brazilians-want-rousseff-and-temer-to-leave-the-government-shows-datafolha-survey.shtml](http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2016/04/1759647-most-brazilians-want-rousseff-and-temer-to-leave-the-government-shows-datafolha-survey.shtml) [http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/12/brazilian-congressional-committee-votes-to-impeach-dilma-rousseff](http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/12/brazilian-congressional-committee-votes-to-impeach-dilma-rousseff) -
So are most American made cheeses just locally made knock-offs of old world cheese?
Or do you guys have some secret stashes of American originals that we Euros never get to hear of?
velveeta .
Oh, like cheese wiz?
agh… Even though I like to snack on those, they are processed cheese products that pretend to be American cheese, but they're not.
Not even Kraft singles (pre-sliced packages labeled as 'American' is real American cheese.Its been a while since I've had it so had to go look it up. I found an article about it here
Some interesting tidbits from the article=
[hide] Why do so many people, even many Americans think that Kraft singles, Velveeta, Cheese Whiz, etc. are American cheese? Deceptive labeling. These “cheeses” are made to mimic American cheese, while using cheaper ingredients and typically more fat and more salt than classic American cheese. There is actually a law governing what may be labeled American cheese and these products do not fit within acceptable criteria. For this reason they label their products as “American cheese food”, “American slices”, “American cheese product” or other similar labels, and since they are not actually calling their products “American cheese” it is allowed. Most people simply do not know the difference and think that they are all simply forms of American cheese. People from other countries, who have never even had a chance to discover true American cheese, see these other products in their countries with those confusing labels and assume that that is American cheese, and it is gross! Americans know nothing of cheese! What a tragedy this misunderstanding is.I wonder, why do other countries sell fake American cheese and not the real stuff? I can only guess, but perhaps it is because the cheap fake stuff is made by huge global corporations (Kraft, mainly), and real American cheese seems to be made by smaller mostly American based companies (Land O Lakes, Boars Head, Cooper, etc). Perhaps it even has something to do with the way it is sold. You do not buy American cheese in a factory package. Occasionally grocery stores will pre-slice it and package it up to display in a deli refrigerator, but it is pretty much always sliced to order at a deli counter from a large block (never EVER sold in individually packaged slices!). The texture of the cheese usually doesn’t lend its self well to pre-slicing because it can often be a bit crumbly.
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First I want to mention that there are many cheeses made in America. These include soft, hard, aged, and fresh varieties which are perfectly respectable cheeses. These are “American” cheeses (Colby and Monterey Jack for example). They are not the focus of this article. I am not talking about cheese in America. I am only talking about one kind of product that is known as “American cheese”.
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Many have asked me if it is “real cheese”. The answer is yes and no. It is not a cheese in its own right, rather, it is made out of real cheese. The exact cheeses used to make it vary by brand and that is why the flavour and texture varies by brand. Yes, there are fillers and emulsifying agents, and it is “processed”. I am not claiming that this is a gourmet food that is as pure as a virgin strawberry, whatever that is, but it is not simply CRAP like those other products. There are standards. Some of them are outlined in the FDA regulations that I previously linked to.
[/hide]Now what parts are true or not, I'll leave to others, I just want to point out that Velveeta, Cheese Whiz and event he Kraft singles factory packaged slices that call themselves American cheese are not the real American Cheese.
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i fucking love velveeta though. You guys gotta make this casserole at least once https://meladycooks.com/2013/02/17/broccoli-rice-casserole/
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i fucking love velveeta though. You guys gotta make this casserole at least once https://meladycooks.com/2013/02/17/broccoli-rice-casserole/
ahaha yes, I love it too XD
… and the cheese whiz isn't some monster people make it out to be. Yes it is NOT a gourmet food item and shouldn't be included in 'real food talk' as its a snack. Best on Ritz crackers and it deals with late nite hunger pangs quite well :happy: -
We should make a General Cheese Thread lol
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Edam is my favourite cheese, I like Emmental, Cheddar and Gouda aswell.
Anyways, Bless Dennis Skinner.
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You would've thought that English parliment would've been a little more dignified.
That clip had some strange comedy club vibe to it. Like live at the Apollo with David Cameron.
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Not surprising; parlimentary sessions can quickly reach the level of spector sport. Much more fun to watch than the stuff on C-SPAN.
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So, what is everyone's opinion on the Peru's presidential election?
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So are most American made cheeses just locally made knock-offs of old world cheese?
Or do you guys have some secret stashes of American originals that we Euros never get to hear of?
I can't think of any (U.S. of) American originals, other than American cheese which is frankly awful (imo).
I think that Zeph is right about the "style of" cheese when it comes to Bleu, Cheddar, Swiss, and Parmesan varieties.
For less commonly appreciated types of cheese, we mostly just have imported stuff from Europe. They tend to be ridiculously expensive (but worth it for a cheese lover).
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So, what is everyone's opinion on the Peru's presidential election?
Children of former authoritarian types can be democratic rulers (see: South Korea right now).
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Velveeta is great for melting on Broccoli and such, or for casseroles or as an add on for Macoroni. But yeah, it's not a cheese in and of itself really. You can't cut blocks of it off and eat it on its own. But it melts soooo good.
It's also super expensive in Canada it turns out.
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isnt there an actual food thread around here
don't get me wrong. I love wolfy. I find it kinda insulting, though, how he gets away with turning every topic into food, when I get penalized for having a one page discussion about Megaman.
That being said, I have one word.
TACOS
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Velveeta is great for melting on Broccoli and such, or for casseroles or as an add on for Macoroni. But yeah, it's not a cheese in and of itself really. You can't cut blocks of it off and eat it on its own. But it melts soooo good.
It's also super expensive in Canada it turns out.
I think we need to try taboo's casserole recipe above.
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don't get me wrong. I love wolfy. I find it kinda insulting, though, how he gets away with turning every topic into food, when I get penalized for having a one page discussion about Megaman.
That being said, I have one word.
TACOS
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I think we need to try taboo's casserole recipe above.
…. And here I am thinking I was part to blame :ninja: for this recent news turns to cheese since I brought up pizza jokes by Jon & Steven which turned to pizzas in general which lead to cheese.
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